On 2013-07-21 22:06, Yohan Boniface wrote:
On 07/21/2013 09:49 PM, Maarten Deen wrote:
IMHO at the moment they have become superfluous. There is no way
anymore
to zoom in or out more than one step at a time by using on-map controls
as there was with the old slider. So I'm using the mouse now
Hi Michal
To come back this thread I'm interested in what you refer to by Gamification.
What was Saman referring to in his talk regarding gamification of the
OSM UI? I found the video of the presentation but can't find any hint
in this direction:
2013/7/28 Stefan Keller sfkel...@gmail.com
OSM UI? I found the video of the presentation but can't find any hint
in this direction:
http://vimeopro.com/openstreetmapus/state-of-the-map-us-2013/video/68093877
I assume that you are referring to some statistics displayed about
users which to
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote:
I think statistics are enough for gamification. You can have lots of
badges like
Biggest contributor in Belgium - most nodes in Belgium
Road admiral of Alabama - most roads in Alabama
Power man of Bavaria - biggest
Hi Bryce and Janko
It seems that I have triggered many ideas about Gamification of data
capturing in OSM. I have some visions too from the existing Kort Game.
But for discussing this, I think, we should fork this thread.
I think such highscores don't belong (yet) to the main website os OSM.
So
There are a lot of ways to approach gamification. I'm not saying whether or
not we should, but we probably should avoid blanket statements that all
gamification is bad. For example, another route we could take is a more
traditional badge model that rewards you for achievements (You made your
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Stefan Keller sfkel...@gmail.com wrote:
I think such highscores don't belong (yet) to the main website os OSM.
So what I still like to find out, is, what triggered the opposition to
gamification. I can't find Saman mentioning gamification in his
presentation
On Jul 22, 2013, at 7:21 AM, Simon Poole wrote:
Am 21.07.2013 20:18, schrieb Michal Migurski:
Supporting official venues for orderly change is what the board should
be doing, but is not. I would support the creation and use of a
proposal/vote/implementation process for the community, even if
Am 21.07.2013 20:47, schrieb Richard Fairhurst:
You only have to follow one mailing list: rails-dev@.
As its name says, this list is about development. The discussion in this thread
is about requirements. Its a good practice to clearly separate discussion of
requirements from their
On 21/07/13 22:01, Frederik Ramm wrote:
PS: If I reply to a message on rails-dev, will it land in the proper
github ticket discussion? I tried it once a while ago and found that my
comments were not there, and it seemed that some people were reading via
rails-dev and got my message while others
Am 21.07.2013 20:18, schrieb Michal Migurski:
Supporting official venues for orderly change is what the board should
be doing, but is not. I would support the creation and use of a
proposal/vote/implementation process for the community, even if the
first proposal is just be it resolved that
Am 21.07.2013 22:01, schrieb Frederik Ramm:
Hi,
On 21.07.2013 21:28, Kai Krueger wrote:
It begs the question, if this high level design decisions shouldn't
live on
the design@ list instead of rails-dev or in the git-hub bug tracker.
Yes, I can imagine that to some a you only have to
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 12:55 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote:
On 20/07/2013 12:57, Paul Norman wrote:
Rails port pull requests?!?! wtf.
:
I really think some developers are living in their own world.
lol. They do !
If you missed the discussion because you don't watch the
On Jul 21, 2013, at 5:42 AM, Pieren wrote:
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 12:55 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote:
On 20/07/2013 12:57, Paul Norman wrote:
Rails port pull requests?!?! wtf.
:
I really think some developers are living in their own world.
lol. They do !
If you missed the
Hey,
Let's also not lose the fact that this thread started with 'Should we
remove the +/- buttons' and has visited about 10 topics in 37 emails since
then. Maybe it's time to start fresh with a focused thread.
Tom
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Michal Migurski m...@teczno.com wrote:
On Jul
Michal Migurski wrote:
On Jul 21, 2013, at 5:42 AM, Pieren wrote:
If you missed the discussion because you don't watch the
non-localized 35 mailing lists
[...]
I don't know, and I don't want to have to subscribe to Github
pull requests to find out.
You only have to follow one mailing
On Jul 21, 2013, at 11:47 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Michal Migurski wrote:
On Jul 21, 2013, at 5:42 AM, Pieren wrote:
If you missed the discussion because you don't watch the
non-localized 35 mailing lists
[...]
I don't know, and I don't want to have to subscribe to Github
pull
It begs the question, if this high level design decisions shouldn't live on
the design@ list instead of rails-dev or in the git-hub bug tracker.
rails-dev can sometimes have a reasonably high volume and most of it is
boring technical detail, like e.g. if oauth needs relative or absolute URLs
to
On Jul 21, 2013, at 12:28 PM, Kai Krueger wrote:
It begs the question, if this high level design decisions shouldn't live on
the design@ list instead of rails-dev or in the git-hub bug tracker.
rails-dev can sometimes have a reasonably high volume and most of it is
boring technical detail,
On 2013-07-21 20:18, Michal Migurski wrote:
The new icons and map controls are good and I'm getting accustomed to
them, but the process by which they made it onto the site worries me.
IMHO at the moment they have become superfluous. There is no way anymore
to zoom in or out more than one
Hi,
On 21.07.2013 21:28, Kai Krueger wrote:
It begs the question, if this high level design decisions shouldn't live on
the design@ list instead of rails-dev or in the git-hub bug tracker.
Yes, I can imagine that to some a you only have to follow rails-dev is
a very hitchhikers-guidesque
On 07/21/2013 09:49 PM, Maarten Deen wrote:
IMHO at the moment they have become superfluous. There is no way anymore
to zoom in or out more than one step at a time by using on-map controls
as there was with the old slider. So I'm using the mouse now to zoom in
or out.
Maybe not everybody knows
On 2013-07-21 22:06, Yohan Boniface wrote:
On 07/21/2013 09:49 PM, Maarten Deen wrote:
IMHO at the moment they have become superfluous. There is no way
anymore
to zoom in or out more than one step at a time by using on-map controls
as there was with the old slider. So I'm using the mouse now
Humm...
Just to be clear: I'm not involved in anyway in osm.org redesign.
I've given this tip because it seems to me that the topic was about
keeping or not the +/- buttons, and imho it's a useful tip for people
who, like me, doesn't use a mouse.
Yohan
On 07/21/2013 10:47 PM, Maarten Deen
I'm personally not liking that they now have hidden the long/short links to the
map location behind buttons. Instead of just one click to get the map
location, now it's two clicks and is really annoying and slowing down work for
me. :(
-James
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 15:16:10 James Mast wrote:
I'm personally not liking that they now have hidden the long/short links to
the map location behind buttons. Instead of just one click to get the map
location, now it's two clicks and is really annoying and slowing down work
for me. :(
-James
Le 20/07/2013 01:07, Dave F. a écrit :
Hi
Does anybody use the +/- zoom controls? I thought it was all mouse
wheels/pad gestures finger gestures to zoom in out.
Are they needed any more?
Dave F.
Oh, yes, they are.
I use them to see the wide region around a spot, e.g. find the big city
James Mast wrote:
I'm personally not liking that they now have hidden the
long/short links to the map location behind buttons.
Instead of just one click to get the map location, now
it's two clicks and is really annoying and slowing down
work for me. :(
Ok, I've said this at least three
@openstreetmap.org
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls
Andrew Errington wrote:
Also, my proposal for including
a markerlink has not been taken up.
Yet. Rome wasn't built in a day.
I also didn't see any consultation on this topic. Just another
fait
From: Andrew Errington [mailto:erringt...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:42 PM
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls
I also didn't see any consultation on this topic. Just another fait
accompli.
The pull request and automatic mail
On 2013-07-20 08:16, James Mast wrote:
I'm personally not liking that they now have hidden the long/short
links to the map location behind buttons. Instead of just one click to
get the map location, now it's two clicks and is really annoying and
slowing down work for me. :(
I agree to that.
On 2013-07-20 10:25, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
James Mast wrote:
I'm personally not liking that they now have hidden the
long/short links to the map location behind buttons.
Instead of just one click to get the map location, now
it's two clicks and is really annoying and slowing down
work for me.
Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
From: Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls
On 2013-07-20 08:16, James Mast wrote:
I'm personally not liking
On 2013-07-20 11:29, Paul Norman wrote:
From: Andrew Errington [mailto:erringt...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:42 PM
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls
I also didn't see any consultation on this topic. Just another fait
accompli.
The pull
On Sábado, 20 de julio de 2013 10:55:58 Mikel Maron escribió:
I miss the white lines on blurry Landsat background. So simple and elegant.
Can someone set that up and make it an option in the layer switcher? ;)
Those were the times :-D
--
--
Iván Sánchez Ortega
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 17:39:18 Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Andrew Errington wrote:
Also, my proposal for including
a markerlink has not been taken up.
Yet. Rome wasn't built in a day.
I also didn't see any consultation on this topic. Just another
fait accompli.
Hey Andrew, I noticed you
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 17:25:27 Richard Fairhurst wrote:
James Mast wrote:
I'm personally not liking that they now have hidden the
long/short links to the map location behind buttons.
Instead of just one click to get the map location, now
it's two clicks and is really annoying and slowing
Am 20.07.2013 01:38, schrieb Dave F.:
On 20/07/2013 00:22, Toby Murray wrote:
You aren't in the #osm IRC channel, are you :)
No. I can't stand the cliquey, unilateral time zone defined exclusion of
that. I prefer to discuss with *all* in *all* timezones. A while back a
decision was made to
Am 20.07.2013 11:53, schrieb Maarten Deen:
On 2013-07-20 10:25, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
James Mast wrote:
I'm personally not liking that they now have hidden the
long/short links to the map location behind buttons.
Instead of just one click to get the map location, now
it's two clicks and
On 2013-07-20 13:35, Peter Wendorff wrote:
Am 20.07.2013 11:53, schrieb Maarten Deen:
On 2013-07-20 10:25, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
James Mast wrote:
I'm personally not liking that they now have hidden the
long/short links to the map location behind buttons.
Instead of just one click to get the
Whoops - resending to the right talk@ list
From: Maarten Deen [mailto:md...@xs4all.nl]
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 2:57 AM
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls
On 2013-07-20 11:29, Paul Norman wrote:
From: Andrew Errington [mailto:erringt
On 2013-07-20 12:33, Paul Norman wrote:
From: Maarten Deen [mailto:md...@xs4all.nl]
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 2:57 AM
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls
On 2013-07-20 11:29, Paul Norman wrote:
From: Andrew Errington [mailto:erringt...@gmail.com]
Sent
Andrew Errington wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 15:16:10 James Mast wrote:
I'm personally not liking that they now have hidden the long/short links to
the map location behind buttons. Instead of just one click to get the map
location, now it's two clicks and is really annoying and slowing down
Hi James,
That issue has been reported and is being worked on:
https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/issues/356
On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 6:55 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote:
On 20/07/2013 12:57, Paul Norman wrote:
Whoops - resending to the right talk@ list
Which
your e-mail arrived.
I bet TomH will probably mark it as a duplicate very soon. lol.
-James
From: t...@macwright.org
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 19:09:27 -0400
To: dave...@madasafish.com
CC: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls
Hi James,
That issue has been reported
From: Maarten Deen [mailto:md...@xs4all.nl]
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls
http://lists.osm.org/pipermail/talk/2013-July/067499.html (in reply to
Andrew Errington)
Okay, so you even have to read all threads, even if you don't find them
insteresting anymore...
My
On 20/07/2013 09:25, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
James Mast wrote:
I'm personally not liking that they now have hidden the
long/short links to the map location behind buttons.
Instead of just one click to get the map location, now
it's two clicks and is really annoying and slowing down
work for
Hi Dave,
Please be civil, we're all trying our best to be nice and make progress
here. It's inappropriate to start ad-hominem attacking developers,
especially in the case of Saman - who is in fact a designer, not to mention
a real person, in the real world, with actual emotions.
Thanks,
Tom
I just watched all 30 minutes of the video. I am a professional
software engineer, the designer seemed extremely competent. Because of
the presentation, I trust that the people working on his know what
they are doing and I am very excited to see what comes next. Please
lets give them some space to
Hello Tom
I reject mildly resent your criticism that I made an ad hominem
attack. I know nothing personally of this man. My criticisms are based
purely on his inability to communicate clearly. As the primary reason
for his lecture was to explain the new layout I feel perfectly entitled
to
My criticisms are based purely on his inability to communicate clearly.
Dave,
As you say, you know nothing personally of this man, and yet you have
discerned he is unable to communicate? Saman is not above criticism.
However, we, as a community, are above sweeping statements such as the ones
My reply is going private as it's now OT.
On 21/07/2013 02:17, Kathleen Danielson wrote:
My criticisms are based purely on his inability to communicate
clearly.
Dave,
As you say, you know nothing personally of this man, and yet you have
discerned he is unable to communicate? Saman
From: Maarten Deen [mailto:md...@xs4all.nl]
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 2:57 AM
To: t...@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls
On 2013-07-20 11:29, Paul Norman wrote:
From: Andrew Errington [mailto:erringt...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:42 PM
You aren't in the #osm IRC channel, are you :)
Turns out, yes... they are still used. It was actually interesting to watch
a coworker who doesn't know much about online maps interacting with osm.org.
This was a month or so ago. They actually used the pan controls instead of
dragging the map. I
Hi
Does anybody use the +/- zoom controls? I thought it was all mouse
wheels/pad gestures finger gestures to zoom in out.
Are they needed any more?
Dave F.
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On 20/07/2013 00:22, Toby Murray wrote:
You aren't in the #osm IRC channel, are you :)
No. I can't stand the cliquey, unilateral time zone defined exclusion of
that. I prefer to discuss with *all* in *all* timezones. A while back a
decision was made to change something in OSM (apologies, I
On 20.07.2013 01:07, Dave F. wrote:
Does anybody use the +/- zoom controls? I thought it was all mouse
wheels/pad gestures finger gestures to zoom in out.
I don't use these controls if I can avoid it, but sometimes I'm stuck
with them. Examples include browser compatibility issues (Firefox
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