[talk-ph] sanity check for maintaining GPS tracks

2010-04-13 Thread maning sambale
I have hundreds of GPS tracks. Some are uploaded in OSM, some I forgot to upload. Some are clean, some are dirty, some are squiggly and some are a big cloud of points pointing to my house. Any advice on how to maintain/clean the tracks before uploading? -- cheers, maning

[talk-ph] POI mapping for really non-mapping people

2010-04-13 Thread maning sambale
I was asked to do some mapping workshop for a bunch of really non-mapping people. What they want is to map some cultural POIs within their city and produce a big paper map out of it. Of course, I can teach them some FOSS GIS incantations, but that would make the 2-3 hour long workshop

Re: [talk-ph] sanity check for maintaining GPS tracks

2010-04-13 Thread Totor
Hi, For the cleaning part, I use GPSBabel to: 1. remove low hdop/vdop (and low satellites) points 2. remove close points (1m) due to traffic-lights, parking-pauses to reduce overall file-size. 3. remove areas I often go or park to avoid clouds. (this first needs transformation to wpt, then back

Re: [talk-ph] sanity check for maintaining GPS tracks

2010-04-13 Thread Jim Morgan
Totor wrote, On Tuesday, 13 April, 2010 08:23 PM: This is the script I use ($1 is input file, $2 is output file): gpsbabel -i nmea -f $1 -x discard,hdop=2,vdop=3,sat=4 -x position,distance=1m -x transform,wpt=trk,del -x polygon,exclude,file=area.loc -x transform,trk=wpt,del -o gpx -F $2

Re: [talk-ph] sanity check for maintaining GPS tracks

2010-04-13 Thread Jim Morgan
On a slightly related note ... I just went to the gpsbabel home page and looked at the features on the new beta release. Apparently it now supports the Locosys GT-31 ( the GPStoGo model), which it didn't when I used it last May. Just thought I'd pass that on. Jim -- datalude:

Re: [OSM-talk-be] De lijn: kaart met ballonnetjes, en de passerende bussen

2010-04-13 Thread Kenny Knecht
Marc, Google heeft daarvoor zijn eigen formaat http://code.google.com/transit/spec/transit_feed_specification.html dat is bijvoorbeeld gebruikt voor MIVB. Maar moet/zal de lijn dat niet zelf doen? Ik denk dat enkele eenvoudige (python) scripts moeten volstaan om jouw data om te zetten naar dit

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapping party Deinze

2010-04-13 Thread Luc Van den Troost
As the weather promises to be nice, I will probably show up on the motorbike. The grey area - Zeveren - looks suited for that, and I might go far beyond that to link the 'Deinze' area to the better mapped areas around Vinkt, Lotenhulle and Nevele. On the motorbike, however, I cannot guarantee to

Re: [OSM-talk-be] De lijn: kaart met ballonnetjes, en de passerende bussen

2010-04-13 Thread Ben Laenen
Marc Coevoet wrote: Lennard wrote: On 12-4-2010 22:55, Marc Coevoet wrote: Welwel, ik ga ervan uit dat als we gaan naar de chauffeurs, we gelijk krijgen. De chauffeurs hebben geen zeggenschap over deze bedrijfsvoering. De chauffeurs iets tonen, zoals de poi (op een tomtom) is een

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapping party Deinze

2010-04-13 Thread Kenny Knecht
Great! May be you could also do the larger area around Grammene/Gottem/Dentergem between N35, N459 and Leie? By the way, thank you all for the positive reactions! Kenny 2010/4/13 Luc Van den Troost luc.a...@gmail.com As the weather promises to be nice, I will probably show up on the

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapping party Deinze

2010-04-13 Thread Ivo van den Maagdenberg
I opt for 'Centrum' or 'Rond station' as I plan to ride my bicycle around and because there is virtually nothing there. I think I can spend the whole day there. Deinze is currently a pretty interesting place to go mapping! Don't forget to post your phone number on the wiki or here on the

[OSM-talk] Bing maps and OSM map side-by-side?

2010-04-13 Thread Valent Turkovic
Hi, I would like to compare some areas that still need to be mapped via Bing maps. There are comparison services that show Google and OSM maps side by side of via transparent layers: http://sautter.com/map/ http://tools.geofabrik.de/mc/ But I haven't found any with Bing maps. Bing has most

Re: [OSM-talk] xybot edit area size

2010-04-13 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 16:14:15 +0100, Martin Fossdal Guttesen wrote: The best way to get rid of bot changes is to ensure that as fews as possible errors get into osm Currently even if my area is error free I see errors from across the globe :( -- pratite me na twitteru -

[OSM-talk] Contour lines

2010-04-13 Thread Andrew Errington
Hi all, Is there a WMS layer or other data source for contour lines? I am improving the outline of the water in a reservoir. I have checked Yahoo! aerials to see the nominal area of the reservoir and I have chosen a particular contour line on OSM Cycle Map to trace along with Potlatch. This

Re: [OSM-talk] Contour lines

2010-04-13 Thread Gregory
On 13 April 2010 01:26, Andrew Errington a.erring...@lancaster.ac.ukwrote: I have checked Yahoo! aerials to see the nominal area of the reservoir and I have chosen a particular contour line on OSM Cycle Map to trace along with Potlatch. This will give a pleasing representation of the area

Re: [OSM-talk] Contour lines

2010-04-13 Thread Steve Hill
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010, Gregory wrote: What makes you think the Yahoo! imagery and/or the contour lines shown on the Cycle Map(these contours are from SRTM data, not OSM) are more up to date or more accurate/precise than the existing water body drawn in OSM? Indeed. Also, ISTR the cycle map

Re: [OSM-talk] Contour lines

2010-04-13 Thread Igor Brejc
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Steve Hill st...@nexusuk.org wrote: I don't think the SRTM contours are accurate enough to use for tracing bodies of water - you need to walk the perimeter with a GPS or use aeriel photos. They aren't. There's also another source called SRTM Water Body

Re: [OSM-talk] Contour lines

2010-04-13 Thread Claudius
Am 13.04.2010 10:48, Gregory: On 13 April 2010 01:26, Andrew Errington a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk mailto:a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote: I have checked Yahoo! aerials to see the nominal area of the reservoir and I have chosen a particular contour line on OSM Cycle Map to

Re: [OSM-talk] Contour lines

2010-04-13 Thread Liz
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010, Steve Hill wrote: SRTM data may be useful for guestimating flowing water courses that can't be otherwise surveyed, I can show you SRTM data that shows elevations in the flat plain at all the watercourses - it picks off the the tree tops which grown in the river bed and

Re: [OSM-talk] Contour lines

2010-04-13 Thread Gregory
On 13 April 2010 01:59, Steve Hill st...@nexusuk.org wrote: ...for tracing bodies of water - you need to walk the perimeter with a GPS... I've always wanted to fix up a pole about 6-10ft with a secure GPS mount on one end, and possibly a harness or neck strap to carry the other end on me. Then

Re: [OSM-talk] Contour lines

2010-04-13 Thread Steve Hill
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010, Gregory wrote: I've always wanted to fix up a pole about 6-10ft with a secure GPS mount on one end, and possibly a harness or neck strap to carry the other end on me. Then walk along the side of a river/lake at a safe distance with my GPS hovered above the line where the

Re: [OSM-talk] Contour lines

2010-04-13 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Steve Hill st...@nexusuk.org wrote: On Tue, 13 Apr 2010, Gregory wrote: What makes you think the Yahoo! imagery and/or the contour lines shown on the Cycle Map(these  contours are from SRTM data, not OSM) are more up to date or more accurate/precise than the

[OSM-talk] sanity check for maintaining GPS tracks

2010-04-13 Thread maning sambale
I have hundreds of GPS tracks. Some are uploaded in OSM, some I forgot to upload. Some are clean, some are dirty, some are squiggly and some are a big cloud of points pointing to my house. Any advice on how to maintain/clean the tracks before uploading? -- cheers, maning

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing maps and OSM map side-by-side?

2010-04-13 Thread Frank Sautter
Valent Turkovic schrieb: I would like to compare some areas that still need to be mapped via Bing maps. There are comparison services that show Google and OSM maps side by side of via transparent layers: http://sautter.com/map/ http://tools.geofabrik.de/mc/ But I haven't found any

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing maps and OSM map side-by-side?

2010-04-13 Thread Valent Turkovic
So Google and Yahoo allow this, only Bing doesn't? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Contour lines

2010-04-13 Thread Andrew Errington
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:59:47 Steve Hill wrote: On Tue, 13 Apr 2010, Gregory wrote: What makes you think the Yahoo! imagery and/or the contour lines shown on the Cycle Map(these contours are from SRTM data, not OSM) are more up to date or more accurate/precise than the existing water body

Re: [OSM-talk] Contour lines

2010-04-13 Thread Keith Sharp
On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 11:14 +0200, Claudius wrote: Am 13.04.2010 10:48, Gregory: On 13 April 2010 01:26, Andrew Errington a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk mailto:a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote: I have checked Yahoo! aerials to see the nominal area of the reservoir and I have

[OSM-talk] User staehler has been duplicating data from google maps

2010-04-13 Thread John Smith
Using this map tile comparison, you can see not only the same name data but the same vector data: http://sautter.com/map/?zoom=16lat=-33.35369lon=138.20736layers=B0TF This user also duplicated fuel locations. http://osm.org/go/uIWLpgodV-- This user has made a lot of edits over a very

Re: [OSM-talk] User staehler has been duplicating data from google maps

2010-04-13 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, John Smith wrote: Using this map tile comparison, you can see not only the same name data but the same vector data: What was the result of your attempts at communication with the user? Bye Frederik ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] User staehler has been duplicating data from google maps

2010-04-13 Thread Liz
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010, John Smith wrote: Using this map tile comparison, you can see not only the same name data but the same vector data: http://sautter.com/map/?zoom=16lat=-33.35369lon=138.20736layers=B0TF This user also duplicated fuel locations. http://osm.org/go/uIWLpgodV--

Re: [OSM-talk] Contour lines

2010-04-13 Thread Steve Hill
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010, Andrew Errington wrote: My GPS accuracy (reported by the device itself) is at best 4m, but in mountainous regions or in cities it is 5m or 6m at best, often worse. How accurate is my mouse when I click on a pixel? Visually I am interpolating the (inaccurate) GPS trace

Re: [OSM-talk] User staehler has been duplicating data from google maps

2010-04-13 Thread Liz
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, John Smith wrote: Using this map tile comparison, you can see not only the same name data but the same vector data: What was the result of your attempts at communication with the user? Bye Frederik from talk-au list Hi, I have made

Re: [OSM-talk] User staehler has been duplicating data from google maps

2010-04-13 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, I have made contact - I hope they understand english. They seem to be german though I don't know I'll write to him in German for good measure. Bye Frederik ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] sanity check for maintaining GPS tracks

2010-04-13 Thread Niklas Cholmkvist
maning sent: I have hundreds of GPS tracks. Some are uploaded in OSM, some I forgot to upload. Some are clean, some are dirty, some are squiggly and some are a big cloud of points pointing to my house. Are you troubled about privacy? (you mention points, pointing to your house) Many of my gps

Re: [OSM-talk] sanity check for maintaining GPS tracks

2010-04-13 Thread Julio Costa Zambelli
Niklas, I think what Maning meant was how to clean the track itself, sometimes you have very long lines (in the middle or the end of the track) that do not represent the track that you droved or walked. At first this crazy lines will not be a problem, but eventually you will press the g key in

Re: [OSM-talk] sanity check for maintaining GPS tracks

2010-04-13 Thread Niccolo Rigacci
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 05:50:11PM +0800, maning sambale wrote: I have hundreds of GPS tracks. Some are uploaded in OSM, some I forgot to upload. Some are clean, some are dirty, some are squiggly and some are a big cloud of points pointing to my house. Prune GPS is a Java program which view

Re: [OSM-talk] Contour lines

2010-04-13 Thread John Smith
On 13 April 2010 23:01, Andrew Errington a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote: I'm still tempted to get an RC boat and tape the GPS on top. Some people are playing with RC planes and GPS + cameras... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Contour lines

2010-04-13 Thread Steve Doerr
On 13/04/2010 11:20, Andrew Errington wrote: Having said that, I have just compared my changes with Google aerials, Google Maps, and another two mapping providers. They are all different, but mine is a little high, so I am going to choose the next lowest contour. If the place is in the UK,

Re: [OSM-talk] Reversion of Edits

2010-04-13 Thread Vitor George
Anyone can help me with the reversion or we leave as is? Vitor On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.ukwrote: I'll leave that for whoever decides to do the revert. I don't do reverts. Shaun On 13 Apr 2010, at 19:58, Vitor George wrote: Shaun, Do you

Re: [OSM-talk] sanity check for maintaining GPS tracks

2010-04-13 Thread Liz
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010, Julio Costa Zambelli wrote: Is there an application that someone can recommend to manually clean the track before uploading it to OSM? Viking can be used to do this. It's a Linux app. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] What's good accuracy for a GPS unit?

2010-04-13 Thread Phil! Gold
Hopefully this isn't too off-topic for the list. If it is, sorry. I use a Palm Pre for recording GPS traces. Once it's warmed up, it normally reports an accuracy of 3 meters, which seems to fit reasonably with what I've seen when overlaying my traces on the Yahoo WMS tiles (although sometimes

Re: [OSM-talk] User staehler has been duplicating data from google maps

2010-04-13 Thread Frederik Ramm
John, the user has replied, apologised, and asked for help in reverting several of his change sets. I will revert the following changesets for him unless beaten by the .au team: #4341783 #4341031 #4339058 #4338519 #4332119 #4330945 #4330174 #4330103 Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ##

Re: [OSM-talk] User staehler has been duplicating data from google maps

2010-04-13 Thread John Smith
On 14 April 2010 06:56, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: John, the user has replied, apologised, and asked for help in reverting several of his change sets. I will revert the following changesets for him unless beaten by the .au team: Feel free, I don't think anyone on talk-au does

Re: [OSM-talk] sanity check for maintaining GPS tracks

2010-04-13 Thread Julio Costa Zambelli
Thank you for your answers, I will try both of them tonight. On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Tue, 13 Apr 2010, Julio Costa Zambelli wrote: Is there an application that someone can recommend to manually clean the track before uploading it to OSM? Viking

Re: [OSM-talk] What's good accuracy for a GPS unit?

2010-04-13 Thread Aun Yngve Johnsen
Augmentation of GPS can be done in various ways depending on the type of unit you have, wether you have access to paid subscription augmentation or only free systems, and where you are. A smaller handheld unit generally have lesser accuracy compared with a larger unit. Higher latitude (60

Re: [OSM-talk] Reversion of Edits

2010-04-13 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
can you send a list of changesets? please add also the communication with the user to have it documented or add a wiki page with the info On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Vitor George vitor.geo...@gmail.comwrote: Anyone can help me with the reversion or we leave as is? Vitor On Tue, Apr 13,

Re: [OSM-talk] What's good accuracy for a GPS unit?

2010-04-13 Thread John Smith
On 14 April 2010 08:06, Aun Yngve Johnsen li...@gimnechiske.org wrote: to EPE of 0.1, while a simple car navigation with snap to road function can be more than happy with HDOP of 2 (which would be totally rejected by my contractors). To save people looking it up, HDOP is approx HDOP*6=m, HDOP

Re: [OSM-talk] sanity check for maintaining GPS tracks

2010-04-13 Thread Nathan Oliver
You might also be interested in an earlier discussion on a similar topic: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2010-January/047670.html From that, I found the EditGPX plugin for JOSM, which while basic, does serve my needs. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/EditGpx Nathan

[OSM-talk-nl] [Amsterdam] 3dShapes

2010-04-13 Thread Roeland Douma
Howdy, Ik ben de afgelopen 2 dagen bezig geweest het meeste landuse en water ook te gaan importeren in Amsterdam. Momenteel ben ik vooral in Noord bezig geweest, dit omdat dit een mooi afgebakend stuk is. Het ziet er meteen een stuk vrolijker uit! Echter is er natuurlijk ook een maar: - Ik

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] [Amsterdam] 3dShapes

2010-04-13 Thread Sybren A. Stüvel
Hi, On Tuesday 13 Apr 2010 14:53:51 Roeland Douma wrote: Ik ben de afgelopen 2 dagen bezig geweest het meeste landuse en water ook te gaan importeren in Amsterdam. Momenteel ben ik vooral in Noord bezig geweest, dit omdat dit een mooi afgebakend stuk is. Super! Het ziet er mooi en vrolijk

[talk-au] Service Stations Imported?

2010-04-13 Thread Neal Schulz
Hi, It looks like some person (staehler) has bulk imported service stations multiple times with the same data; that had already been imported. Others seeing this? http://osm.org/go/uIWLpgodV-- Neal ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] Service Stations Imported?

2010-04-13 Thread John Smith
On 13 April 2010 18:37, Neal Schulz neal.sch...@internode.on.net wrote: Hi, It looks like some person (staehler) has bulk imported service stations multiple times with the same data; that had already been imported. Have you asked them what happened?

Re: [talk-au] Service Stations Imported?

2010-04-13 Thread Neal Schulz
Hi, I have made contact - I hope they understand english. They seem to be german though I don't know - that's my best guess, not being a linguist at all. I await a response. Neal On 13/04/2010, at 6:49 PM, John Smith wrote: On 13 April 2010 18:37, Neal Schulz neal.sch...@internode.on.net

Re: [talk-au] Service Stations Imported?

2010-04-13 Thread John Smith
On 13 April 2010 19:39, Neal Schulz neal.sch...@internode.on.net wrote: Hi, I have made contact - I hope they understand english. They seem to be german though I don't know - that's my best guess, not being a linguist at all. Judging by edits he might, there has been a large number of roads

Re: [talk-au] Service Stations Imported?

2010-04-13 Thread John Smith
On 13 April 2010 19:56, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 April 2010 19:39, Neal Schulz neal.sch...@internode.on.net wrote: Hi, I have made contact - I hope they understand english. They seem to be german though I don't know - that's my best guess, not being a linguist at all.

Re: [talk-au] Service Stations Imported?

2010-04-13 Thread Liz
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010, John Smith wrote: On 13 April 2010 19:39, Neal Schulz neal.sch...@internode.on.net wrote: Hi, I have made contact - I hope they understand english. They seem to be german though I don't know - that's my best guess, not being a linguist at all. Judging by edits he

Re: [talk-au] Service Stations Imported?

2010-04-13 Thread Liz
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010, Liz wrote: sorry to whoever has done this, but the veracity of the information is in doubt. I started off looking at Old Pricess Highway, because of the typo I have checked other online maps Whereis, who are usually more accurate have Younghusband, as do the Council,

Re: [talk-au] Service Stations Imported?

2010-04-13 Thread John Smith
On 13 April 2010 20:42, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: OSM suddenly has the same street names as Google for many streets, and a few interesting streets which have new names Very high odds that copying has occurred from Google Maps, except for the series of errors made in the process. The

[talk-au] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] User staehler has been duplicating data from google maps

2010-04-13 Thread Liz
---BeginMessage--- John, the user has replied, apologised, and asked for help in reverting several of his change sets. I will revert the following changesets for him unless beaten by the .au team: #4341783 #4341031 #4339058 #4338519 #4332119 #4330945 #4330174 #4330103 Bye Frederik --

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] User staehler has been duplicating data from google maps

2010-04-13 Thread John Henderson
On 14/04/10 07:25, Liz wrote: the user has replied, apologised, and asked for help in reverting several of his change sets. I will revert the following changesets for him unless beaten by the .au team: I've cleaned up the duplications in much of the ACT (but not all). I assume that won't

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] User staehler has been duplicating data from google maps

2010-04-13 Thread John Smith
On 14 April 2010 07:46, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: On 14/04/10 07:25, Liz wrote: the user has replied, apologised, and asked for help in reverting several of his change sets. I will revert the following changesets for him unless beaten by the .au team: I've cleaned up the

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] User staehler has been duplicating data from google maps

2010-04-13 Thread John Henderson
On 14/04/10 07:51, John Smith wrote: It's always better if they're reverted cleanly... OK - time I did some research on how to revert things I guess. John H ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] User staehler has been duplicating data from google maps

2010-04-13 Thread John Smith
On 14 April 2010 08:04, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: OK - time I did some research on how to revert things I guess. There is a handful of people that already do this, and imho it's best to leave it up to them to prevent accidents and edit wars.

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] User staehler has been duplicating data from google maps

2010-04-13 Thread Neal Schulz
Hi, As reported here the user has asked for help reverting... I will leave it to the people who know what they are doing to follow this up. Cheers Neal On 14/04/2010, at 7:25 AM, Liz wrote: From: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org Date: 14 April 2010 6:56:09 AM To: John Smith

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] User staehler has been duplicating data from google maps

2010-04-13 Thread John Henderson
On 14/04/10 09:06, John Smith wrote: There is a handful of people that already do this, and imho it's best to leave it up to them to prevent accidents and edit wars. Understood. But at least I now see why it's best to leave potential reverts in their pristine state. John H

Re: [Talk-de] NACK Gemeindegrenzen Baden-Württemberg für OpenStreetMap

2010-04-13 Thread Bernd Wurst
Am Montag 12 April 2010 21:33:16 schrieb Norbert Hoffmann: Daran ist doch nichts paradox. Der Teil, der von den wenigen Nutzern bezahlt wird, muss eben gerade nicht aus dem Steuertopf genommen werden. Die 99% Nichtnutzer sind's zufrieden. Ich schätze den Teil der Bevölkerung, der irgendwann

Re: [Talk-de] Keine Strassennamen

2010-04-13 Thread Boris Wagner
Am 07.04.2010 16:45, schrieb Torsten: Hallo ich bin neu hier und habe eine Frage Ich habe mir die Europa All_in_One Garmin Map runter geladen es klappt auch soweit sehr gut.Nur wenn ich die Map deaktiviere oder von der karte lösche bekomme ich in meinem Oregon 300 bei den Garminkarten keine

Re: [Talk-de] surface=compacted

2010-04-13 Thread Bernd Wurst
Am Montag 12 April 2010 17:42:10 schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: Meine Anmerkung geht grundsätzlich gegen compacted im Surface-tag. Und du bist dir sicher, dass diese Wege-Bauform im englischen nicht einfach compacted genannt wird? Ich verstehe deine Kritik durchaus, allerdings sind manche Dinge

Re: [Talk-de] Klarstellung: OSM-Garmin-Karten bei Ebay

2010-04-13 Thread Bernd Wurst
Am Montag 12 April 2010 23:30:38 schrieb Birgit Nietsch: Im übrigen gibt es bei Ebay eine Option, die da heißt: Sofort kaufen. Seriöse Händler benutzen die. Diese Aussage ist Bullshit bei einer Auktion. Eine Auktion definiert sich dadurch, dass der Verkaufspreis eben nicht vom Verkäufer vorab

[Talk-de] Süd Afrika

2010-04-13 Thread UMAX974
Hallo hab gerade in http://www.geocaching-franken.de/forum/thread-5052-post-9259.html#pid9259 die Frage entdeckt ob es für Südafrika schon eine Garmin taugliche OSM Karte gibt. Das könnt im Blick auf die WM tatsächlich eine nicht unerhebliche Frage sein... Hat jemand einen guten Tipp? UMAX974

Re: [Talk-de] surface=compacted

2010-04-13 Thread Martin Simon
Am 12. April 2010 16:47 schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Habe mir aufgrund einer Tagging Diskussion heute mal wieder surface im Wiki angesehen und festgestellt, dass da Werte vorkommen, die nicht besonders logisch sind. Insbesondere compacted (dort habe ich der deutschen

Re: [Talk-de] Süd Afrika

2010-04-13 Thread Carsten Schwede
Hi, Am 13.04.2010 08:53, schrieb UMAX974: die Frage entdeckt ob es für Südafrika schon eine Garmin taugliche OSM Karte gibt. Das könnt im Blick auf die WM tatsächlich eine nicht unerhebliche Frage sein... Hat jemand einen guten Tipp? UMAX974 Es gibt ständig wochenaktuell Karten der

[Talk-de] Wegpunkte mitteln

2010-04-13 Thread Michael Buege
Seit geraumer Zeit beschaeftige ich mich damit, an markanten Stellen Wegpunkte moeglichst genau zu bestimmen, um Luftbilder daran ausrichten zu koennen. Mein Garmin bietet dazu die Funktion Wegpunkt mitteln an. In Verbindung mit einer zusaetzlichen Antenne bekomme ich teilweise eine geschaetzte

Re: [Talk-de] Wegpunkte mitteln

2010-04-13 Thread Rafael Wolfförster
Am 13.04.2010 09:14, schrieb Michael Buege: Seit geraumer Zeit beschaeftige ich mich damit, an markanten Stellen Wegpunkte moeglichst genau zu bestimmen, um Luftbilder daran ausrichten zu koennen. Mein Garmin bietet dazu die Funktion Wegpunkt mitteln an. In Verbindung mit einer zusaetzlichen

Re: [Talk-de] Wegpunkte mitteln

2010-04-13 Thread Martin Simon
Am 13. April 2010 09:14 schrieb Michael Buege mich...@buegehome.de: Seit geraumer Zeit beschaeftige ich mich damit, an markanten Stellen Wegpunkte moeglichst genau zu bestimmen, um Luftbilder daran ausrichten zu koennen. Mein Garmin bietet dazu die Funktion Wegpunkt mitteln an. In Verbindung

Re: [Talk-de] OSM Karten auf e-Bay - oder was wir dra us machen können

2010-04-13 Thread Thomas Ineichen
Hallo Ulf, Welcher Preis für solch ein Angebot angemessen ist, liegt letztlich im Auge des Betrachters. Man darf dabei den Aufwand (Karten besorgen, Daten aktuell halten, Tests auf Geräten, ...) und potentiellen Ärger ^^

Re: [Talk-de] NACK Gemeindegrenzen Baden-Württemberg f ür OpenStreetMap

2010-04-13 Thread Sven Geggus
Frank Sautter openstreet...@sautter.com wrote: Die Absage war von mir zwar erwartet, aber ich dachte: Wir haben nichts zu verlieren und Fragen kostet nichts. Gibt es in BAWÜ eigentlich ein Informationsfreiheitsgesetz? Gerade solche amtlichen Dinge wie Grenzen müssen ja wohl öffentlich sein.

Re: [Talk-de] NACK Gemeindegrenzen Baden-Württemberg f ür OpenStreetMap

2010-04-13 Thread Sven Geggus
Matthias Versen s...@mversen.de wrote: Hast Du auch schonmal versucht in Angies Mercedes mitzufahren weil Du den zum Teil auch aus Steuergeldern mitfininaziert hast ? Was für ein bescheurerter Vergleich. Den Mercedes kann man _nicht_ kostenfrei kopieren. Sven -- Trotz der zunehmenden

Re: [Talk-de] NACK Gemeindegrenzen Baden-Württemberg f ür OpenStreetMap

2010-04-13 Thread Sven Geggus
Norbert Hoffmann nhoffm...@spamfence.net wrote: Der Teil, der von den wenigen Nutzern bezahlt wird, muss eben gerade nicht aus dem Steuertopf genommen werden. Und dieser Anteil ist ein derart verschwindend geringer Anteil an den Gesamtkosten die die landesvermessung verursacht, dass man die

Re: [Talk-de] OSM-Garmin-Karten bei Ebay

2010-04-13 Thread Sven Geggus
Christian Hartnick christ...@hartnick.de wrote: Es geht mir darum, dass da jemand (laut Herrn Döhrn) bis zu 60€ für die Daten haben will. Und wenn er 6000€ dafür verlangt und einen Dummen findet der das bezahlt ist das immer noch vond er Lizenz gedeckt. Mit freier Software insbesondere mit

Re: [Talk-de] OSM Karten auf e-Bay - oder was wir dra us machen können

2010-04-13 Thread Birgit Nietsch
Gerry Light schrieb: Butter bei die Fische: Für mich sind 20€ für die 2GB-Karte nicht moralisch bedenklich. Es dürfen auch gerne 30 sein, und 10 davon werden gespendet. Wer bietet gleich oder was anderes? Das ist genau die Preisspanne, die auch ich als OK ansehen würde. 20€ wiegen die Mühe

Re: [Talk-de] OSM Karten auf e-Bay - oder was wir drau s machen können

2010-04-13 Thread Bernd Wurst
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:03:19AM +0200, Birgit Nietsch wrote: Außerdem kann man für seinen Ruf nichts schlimmeres tun, als den Leuten das Gefühl zu geben, sie über den Tisch gezogen zu haben. Schaut euch die aktuellen Unmutsäußerungen der Navigon-Kunden an:

Re: [Talk-de] Wegpunkte mitteln

2010-04-13 Thread Michael Buege
Zitat Rafael Wolfförster: Am 13.04.2010 09:14, schrieb Michael Buege: Seit geraumer Zeit beschaeftige ich mich damit, an markanten Stellen Wegpunkte moeglichst genau zu bestimmen, um Luftbilder daran ausrichten zu koennen. [...] Tobias Wendorf hatte bei der Fossgis einen Vortrag zu

Re: [Talk-de] Absage Re: WMS von DigitalGlobe

2010-04-13 Thread Rainer Knaepper
Moin Gerry, Bartosz Fabianowski wrote: und früher oder später haben wir rechtliche Probleme am Hals. Das passiert ohnehin irgendwann. Oder glaubt jemand ernsthaft, dass sich unter 200.000 Benutzern nicht ein einziger Vollidiot findet, hatten wir doch schon. Also den Vollidioten. Rechtliche

Re: [Talk-de] OSM-Garmin-Karten bei Ebay

2010-04-13 Thread Florian Gross
Christian Hartnick glaubte zu wissen: Du weisst offenbar nicht, wie eBay funktioniert.. Sicherlich doch. Bei allen fünf Auktionen von superlieven, die ich mir angeschaut habe, war der Start- preis 1 Euro. Wenn die Leute aber bis zu 80 Euro bieten[1], ohne sich genauer zu

Re: [Talk-de] Absage Re: WMS von DigitalGlobe

2010-04-13 Thread Gerry Light
-- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/WMS-von-DigitalGlobe-tp4753705p4894874.html Sent from the Germany mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] Fertige KArten Islas Canarias / Marketing?

2010-04-13 Thread Chris66
Am 13.04.2010 01:20, schrieb Daniela Duerbeck: P.S: Vom Loro Parque kann ich noch eine schöne Geschichte erzählen, ich hoffe, mir wird das leichte offtopic verziehen. Wir waren dort vor zwei Wochen mit einem befreundeten Paar nebst kleinem Sohn, 9 Monate. Papa hält Sohn vor einen

Re: [Talk-de] OSM-Garmin-Karten bei Ebay

2010-04-13 Thread Florian Gross
andre glaubte zu wissen: Ich persönlich finde es gut das soetwas angeboten wird. Damit muss sich nicht jeder in die umfangreiche Materie einlesen. Schön wäre das etwas von den Kohlen zurück zum Projekt fließen würde. Die Idee hätte allerdings etwas. Aus der OSM- Datenbank erstellte Karten

Re: [Talk-de] Absage Re: WMS von DigitalGlobe

2010-04-13 Thread Gerry Light
Rainer Knaepper wrote: Rechtliche Probleme wohl noch nicht. Möglicherweise auch deshalb, weil die Konkurrenz vermutlich ebenfalls abmalt, auch bei uns. Im Moment sind wir auch noch -nicht falsch verstehen- zu unwichtig auf dem Markt. Desweiteren ist das abmalen von Luftbildern schwierig

Re: [Talk-de] OSM-Garmin-Karten bei Ebay

2010-04-13 Thread Florian Gross
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer glaubte zu wissen: Am 12. April 2010 23:01 schrieb Florian Gross usenet-spam-genausoguel...@grossing.de: http://florian-gross.de/gallery/displayimage.php?album=2pos=1 http://florian-gross.de/gallery/displayimage.php?album=2pos=0 Rede. Vor lauter Gier hat einer bei 200,99€

Re: [Talk-de] OSM-Garmin-Karten bei Ebay

2010-04-13 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 13.04.2010 09:52, schrieb Sven Geggus: Dass das moralisch verwerflich ist und dass man die 60€ besser dem Projekt spenden würde ist ein ganz anderes Thema. Das es überhaupt moralisch verwerflich ist, diesen Artikel bei e-bay für einen Euro und sachlich völlig korrekt beschrieben anzubieten

Re: [Talk-de] Wegpunkte mitteln

2010-04-13 Thread Gerry Light
Martin Simon wrote: [...] z.B. die Ecke eines Gebäudes [...] Vorsicht: An solchen Punkten ist mit systematischen Fehlern wegen Reflektionen zu rechnen, die durch Mittelung nicht zu beseitigen sind. Für eure Idee wären Freifeldpunkte, die auch auf dem Bild gut zu finden sind, ideal. --

Re: [Talk-de] Absage Re: WMS von DigitalGlobe

2010-04-13 Thread Sebastian Klein
Bartosz Fabianowski wrote: auf meine Nachfrage hin habe ich nun durch den europäischen Vertrieb von DigitalGlobe die Absage erhalten: Totgesagte leben länger. Ich habe gerade DigitalGlobe im Menü von JOSM Latest entdeckt. Jetzt haben wir echt den Salat... die halbe Welt wird anfangen, von

[Talk-de] Gasthof mit Fremdenzimmern?

2010-04-13 Thread Florian Schmitt
Hallo, wie taggt Ihr Gasthöfe mit Fremdenzimmern? tourism=hotel ist ja nicht richtig einschlägig, hostel noch weniger, guest_house im Wiki nicht erläutert (und bed breakfast passt schließlich ebenso wenig). Oder als Ergänzung zu amenity=restaurant, guest_room=yes? Vorteil: vermeidet zwei POIs

Re: [Talk-de] Wegpunkte mitteln

2010-04-13 Thread Christian Schmitt
Hallo Michael, bekommt man wirklich mit einer externen Antenne solch genaue Messungen hin? Welche GPS-Antenne benutzt Du? Mein GPS-Empfänger ist ein GARMIN GPSmap 60CSx (ohne externe Antenne). Die maximale Genauigkeit beim Wegpunkt mitteln bekomm ich (bei günstigen Bedingungen, d.h. gute

Re: [Talk-de] OSM Karten auf e-Bay - oder was wir drau s machen können

2010-04-13 Thread AssetBurned
moin On 13.04.2010, at 04:59, Gerry Light wrote: Butter bei die Fische: Für mich sind 20€ für die 2GB-Karte nicht moralisch bedenklich. Es dürfen auch gerne 30 sein, und 10 davon werden gespendet. Wer bietet gleich oder was anderes? nun kann ich herzlich wenig dazu sagen was momentan 2GB

Re: [Talk-de] FotoMapping

2010-04-13 Thread Florian Gross
malenki glaubte zu wissen: Michael Kugelmann schrieb: Markus schrieb: [Bilder georeferenzieren] Ich würde ebenfalls empfehlen, die GPS-Daten in die EXIF-Tags zu schreiben - AgPifoJ kann das (noch?) nicht. Man hat die Arbeit nur einmal und kann die Fotos mit diesen Daten bequem auch an

Re: [Talk-de] D4 ebenfalls aufteilen?

2010-04-13 Thread Florian Gross
Frederik Ramm glaubte zu wissen: Hallo, Andre Joost wrote: Dann sei doch bitte so freundlich und ergänze in Zukunft auch die einschlägigen Wiki-Seiten entsprechend. Sonst kommt nämlich der nächste Aufschrei, warum die Relation von der Wiki-Seite nicht mehr erreichbar ist. Fuer einen

Re: [Talk-de] surface=compacted

2010-04-13 Thread Florian Gross
Bernd Wurst glaubte zu wissen: Das einem Schotterweg gleich zu taggen f=C3=A4nde ich sehr falsch, denn auf nem Schotterweg streikt ein Rennrad schnell mal, Nicht eher der Fahrer? flo, SCNR! -- Er hat eben was gegen Menschen die nicht seiner Meinung sind und die ihm nicht bedingungslos

Re: [Talk-de] OSM Karten auf e-Bay - oder was wir drau s machen können

2010-04-13 Thread UMAX974
Nachdem ich gerade über eine Anfrage bzgl. Südafrika-karten gestolpert bin. Wäre doch evtl. wirklich die Frage, ob da nicht der eine oder andere solche Karten für Großereignisse wie die WM oder Kirchentag in München, Olympia Russland oder sonst, anwendbar anbietet und dabei ein Bonus für OSM

Re: [Talk-de] Wegpunkte mitteln

2010-04-13 Thread Wolfgang
Hallo Michael, Am Dienstag 13 April 2010 09:14:23 schrieb Michael Buege: Seit geraumer Zeit beschaeftige ich mich damit, an markanten Stellen Wegpunkte moeglichst genau zu bestimmen, um Luftbilder daran ausrichten zu koennen. Mein Garmin bietet dazu die Funktion Wegpunkt mitteln an. In

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