Re: [OSM-talk-be] Renderen van addr:flats

2020-06-15 Thread Lionel Giard
The tagging is correct, it is just not supposed to be on area from the wiki perspective. But indeed I don't see why it is incorrect when a building is only containing this series of flats and only one entrance ? And if that's incorrect why are they rendering addr:flats on area and not node ?! ^^'

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Telenav Mapping Project

2020-04-22 Thread Lionel Giard
Great to learn about your project. :-) I would think that this page of our Belgium convention could be useful to you : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Road_signs_in_Belgium . It list our current convention for how to map road signs around here (the picture on the wiki are generally in dutch,

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Bunkers

2020-03-20 Thread Lionel Giard
> > On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 5:16 PM Lionel Giard > wrote: > > > > For abandonned (historic) military bunker, the correct mapping is : > > - abandonned:building=bunker > > - military=bunker > > - bunker_type=* (most of them are pillbox for those defensive belt

Re: [OSM-talk-be] BIPT antennas

2020-03-10 Thread Lionel Giard
ennas without specifying the support but it seems a bit > limiting. > > *How to map it?* > > @Lionel, you didn't comment on the man_made=antenna tag (Status: in use) > which was also mentioned in the discussion of 2018. > There is also this proposal from nov 2018 where the man_made=ant

Re: [OSM-talk-be] IBPT antennas

2020-03-09 Thread Lionel Giard
Cool news that they gave the authorization to use it ! And it is always great to have some interest on the telecom side. :D I'll give what i know and some opinion on the tagging. ^_^ For the tags to use, there was a (rather long) discussion in October 2018 on Tagging mailing list (

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Tagging proposal for cycling highways (Fietssnelwegen)

2019-12-11 Thread Lionel Giard
To answer Joost question about relevance in other regions : yes it is relevant. Wallonia recently started to plan and implement these "cycle highway" to reach Brussels from multiple different locations (with protected cycleway along motorway, national road or railway). They want to connect and

Re: [OSM-talk-be] parking_space only for electric vehicle sign combination e9b

2019-11-05 Thread Lionel Giard
As far as i know, there is no legal access limitation in Belgium to such space (it is only advisory to not park there if not charging - that's why we can't do anything when people park on them, except if there is a sign "do not park or you'll be towed" or other sign that have legal value). So

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Road side parking ( Was Re: Overdreven gedetailleerde mapping ?)

2019-11-05 Thread Lionel Giard
ent possible in the tagging schema > for such situations. > > m. > > > On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 9:26 AM Lionel Giard > wrote: > > > > @Marc These parking along street are indeed often not "amenity=parking" > but probably more related to parking:lane tag (tag

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Overdreven gedetailleerde mapping ?

2019-11-05 Thread Lionel Giard
@Marc These parking along street are indeed often not "amenity=parking" but probably more related to parking:lane tag (tagged on the highway itself). Technically it is suggested to only map these kind of roadside parking with the parking:lane

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Neighbourhoods in Ghent mapped as a point

2019-08-20 Thread Lionel Giard
Yes the node approach is only done when the boundaries are unknown (and so this is an approximation) but in this case, as we have the boundaries as open data, we could add them indeed. You can see it in the wiki page too . Thus, creating a polygon

Re: [OSM-talk-be] folk sports in Belgium

2019-08-06 Thread Lionel Giard
At the moment the OSM wiki page for sport=pelota only show the description of the "pelote basque " : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Asport%3Dpelota . Maybe we should adapt the wiki description to show that this name "sport=pelota" is used for

Re: [OSM-talk-be] bridge or tunnel?

2019-05-29 Thread Lionel Giard
..@gmail.com>: > > > > > > > > > This is the place: > > > > https://www.google.com/maps/@51.2216551,4.0345363,3a,75y,49.39h,77.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjggCIzrpgLhVFtrn6gYCnQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 > > > (sorry no Mapillary images yet). > > > &g

Re: [OSM-talk-be] bridge or tunnel?

2019-05-28 Thread Lionel Giard
@joost schouppe To me that's indeed a bridge, as you see the same structure as on the motorway bridges : a platform supported by pillars A tunnel is generally something that was dig (removing earth/material) and consolidated from the inside (most often with concrete) like a subway tunnel if

Re: [OSM-talk-be] bridge or tunnel?

2019-05-28 Thread Lionel Giard
I agree with the above answer that except #2, all are bridge. One other method to identify a bridge is to check the structure (either with a "tablier"/bridge deck which goes from one support to the next, or with arch like one of the example...). There are typical bridge structure, while most

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapping station Leuven

2019-05-19 Thread Lionel Giard
Hi, Ik zal antwoorden in het Engels omdat ik niet veel Nederlands spreek. -- First, i would recommend you to check the OSM wiki on railway station : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:railway%3Dstation . It explains how we map them around the world (with a

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Importing polygons of administrative boundaries for Belgium into OSM

2019-05-07 Thread Lionel Giard
undaries are the > official ones (be it from the cadastre or from ING) it would still, in my > opinion, be better to import those into OSM rather than correcting manually > here and there. > > On Tuesday, May 7, 2019, 9:58:05 AM GMT+2, Lionel Giard < > lionel.gi...@gmail.com&g

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Importing polygons of administrative boundaries for Belgium into OSM

2019-05-07 Thread Lionel Giard
Hello, To me this dataset is not necessarily better than what we have in OSM (as we corrected some border by field survey where this dataset is wrong). I would never "replace" blindly all existing geometry by this one. I think we can say that we are more or less correct (i never saw errors

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Looking how tagging "ijskelder"

2019-03-21 Thread Lionel Giard
Not being doesn't mean it is badly tagged, it just mean that the map on the website (which is only one map out of many) doesn't show this kind of details. OpenStreetMap is still a database first, and not a map. Try to not "map for the renderer" but rather stay with correct tagging. And if you want

Re: [OSM-talk-be] landuse & highways

2019-03-19 Thread Lionel Giard
For what i understand, the landuse=grass is mostly a "landcover=grass" tag which was never properly named (and thus it is used like that). The surface=grass alone doesn't mean much in OSM as the surface tag is (i think) only a secondary tag (adding information to other object like highway=* ).

[OSM-talk-be] Réunion OSM à Louvain-la-Neuve / OSM meeting in Louvain-la-Neuve - 11/02/2019

2019-01-17 Thread Lionel Giard
! Toutes les informations se trouvent ici :https://www.meetup.com/fr-FR/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/events/258161886/ Bonne journée, Lionel Giard *### English ###* Hello, We've just created the meetup for the next meetup in *LLN (Louvain-la-Neuve)* on *Monday the 11th of February* at la *Crêperie

[OSM-talk-be] Tourism : How to tag a regional / local rating ? / Tourisme : Comment tagger les labels touristiques ?

2018-12-19 Thread Lionel Giard
"local rating" ? Maybe something like *official_rating:epis=* *or other ? But then it would be different than the widely used stars=* tags. What is your thinking and proposition about it ? Regards, Lionel Giard (alias Anakil in OSM) [1] Documentation in french : - étoiles (stars) for hotel : https:

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Tour de contrôle

2018-11-22 Thread Lionel Giard
Juste pour donner plus d'informations sur les tags utilisés pour le moment. Le tag le plus utilisé pour cela est "man_made=tower" + "service=aircraft_control" (voir : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:service%3Daircraft_control ). Ce tag est utilisé 369 fois. Il vient d'une vieille

Re: [OSM-talk-be] osm - arlon - training course / evangelism

2018-11-09 Thread Lionel Giard
Hi Pierre, I saw a influx of new mappers (via the welcome page) around Arlon following your formation i suppose, and i detected a few mistakes that were common : - uploading polygons without tags (i suppose the JOSM validator was either not activated or just ignored on purpose ?!); - a few

Re: [OSM-talk-be] cadastral plan now open data

2018-09-21 Thread Lionel Giard
I'm not supporting the addition of this WMS neither, as it is more imprecise than others sources for most of the data. So the question about the license is not really important in that case. The regional sources for buildings, parcels, streets,... are almost always with a better precision. One

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Note tells OSM fails

2018-09-05 Thread Lionel Giard
The official french name is "Kraainem" too, while Crainhem is an alternate spelling for french (but i had never seen it before). Maybe we should change the tag and put it like that "name:fr=Kraainem" and "alt_name:fr= Crainhem" ? Le mar. 4 sept. 2018 à 20:43, Marc Gemis a écrit : > I replied

Re: [OSM-talk-be] landuse mapping

2017-11-08 Thread Lionel Giard
I would also be interested, virtually or even real meeting. ;-) Lionel 2017-11-08 17:10 GMT+01:00 joost schouppe : > Hi, > > We would have loved to have a landuse-mapping debate during Foss4G, it > didn't really happen though. There were two very cool presentations

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Digital Globe Images

2017-05-12 Thread Lionel Giard
Yes it seems to be a little bit more recent than 2015 SPW imagery in Chaumont area (like a few month between the two). But the main disadvantage is that the pixel size seems to be higher in Digital Globe imagery (the image looks coarser). Bing still is the clearest imagery of all (with the high

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Land-use mapping with OSM in Belgium

2017-04-29 Thread Lionel Giard
>: > Here is one answer I got, Martin was so kind to put it into a diary > entry: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/dieterdreist/diary/40993 > > On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Lionel Giard <lionel.

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Land-use mapping with OSM in Belgium

2017-04-28 Thread Lionel Giard
I understand your point, and that's why we should say if something must be done or not : describing the best practices. For landuse inside an existing residential area, it is always possible to just change the residential zone into a multipolygon relation and make the new landuse (like the park)

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Land-use mapping with OSM in Belgium

2017-04-27 Thread Lionel Giard
Personally, i put Nature reserve on a special relation, as it is described on the wiki, like this one : http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7130732#map=17/50.68519/4.70461 And the forest or other landuses are just part of this multipolygon. In this example, i also have a multipolygon for the

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Land-use mapping with OSM in Belgium

2017-04-25 Thread Lionel Giard
Hi, Concerning the wood-tag : I was personally using the first approach Here where it says that natural=wood is for area covered by tree, and natural=forest is for area managed for land forestry (like plantation in the Ardennes). And most of the time,

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Upcoming removal of landuse=farm in the standard style

2017-03-22 Thread Lionel Giard
In Wallonia, we are currently working at redoing most of the old stuff and correcting errors, and landuse=farm is part of them. As we don't have good landuse coverage, it is probably better to just not render these old "farm" polygon (most of them overlap other zones or are badly traced). And we

[OSM-talk-be] mapper meeting in Louvain-la-Neuve/reunion de mappeurs à Louvain-la-Neuve 24/03

2017-02-28 Thread Lionel Giard
Hello, We've just created the meetup for the next meetup in LLN (Louvain-la-Neuve) on Friday the 24st of March at La Crêperie Bretonne - La Mère Fillioux (remember -> delicious pancake and beer !), I hope it will attract more people ! ;-) Everybody is more than welcome to come!

[OSM-talk-be] Mapper meeting in Louvain-la-Neuve next month

2017-02-22 Thread Lionel Giard
Hello, We've just created a framadate to prepare the next meeting in Louvain-la-Neuve (our first meeting in Wallonia i think). If you want to come, please indicate when you are free on the link below (among a selection of date). It will probably be at "La Crêperie Bretonne" (-> délicious pancake

[OSM-talk-be] a new National Mapathon - call for volunteers

2017-02-03 Thread Lionel Giard
Hi Joost, I'll be happy to volunteer at *UCL (Louvain-la-Neuve) ! :-)* I can help to everything as i'm used to work with hotosm/id/... and mapathon in general (*MSF mapathon T-shirt owner club inside :p*). Lionel Giard *De :* joost schouppe [mailto:joost.schou...@gmail.com] *Envoyé :* vendredi