Re: [talk-au] Anything remapping an armchair mapper can help with in Australia?

2012-06-28 Thread Richard Colless
On 28/06/2012 10:28 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Sam Couter s...@couter.id.au wrote: OSM HAS MADE THE CHOICE TO EXCLUDE MY CONTRIBUTIONS. Now that the decisions have been made, the trenches have been dug, and there is absolutely no possibility of anyone changing

Re: [talk-au] [sharedmapau] Re: Plea to Australian decliners

2012-03-31 Thread Richard Colless
need the OSMF pointing out something you already knew about. Simon Am 31.03.2012 04:59, schrieb Richard Colless: I did decline the new terms. And I was contacted, as I said, just once, by someone trying to persuade me to change my mind. My point was that OSM never contacted me to say

Re: [talk-au] [sharedmapau] Re: Plea to Australian decliners

2012-03-31 Thread Richard Colless
On 1/04/2012 10:08 AM, Steve Bennett wrote: On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Richard Collessfire...@ar.com.au wrote: I followed the discussion with much interest, and only decided not to accept the new CT's when I observed the rudeness with which the objections were handled. The recent spate

Re: [talk-au] [sharedmapau] Re: Plea to Australian decliners

2012-03-31 Thread Richard Colless
On 1/04/2012 2:16 PM, Richard Weait wrote: On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 11:36 PM, Richard Collessfire...@ar.com.au wrote: I'm not taking out any resentment on anybody. I'm simply choosing not to participate. So don't say that I'm hurting anybody.. I'm quite happy for any of my data to remain. If

Re: [talk-au] [sharedmapau] Re: Plea to Australian decliners

2012-03-30 Thread Richard Colless
Thank you, John. I couldn't have expressed it better. Throughout this whole sorry story, I have only ever received ONE communication form OSM. It was a begging letter asking me to reconsider. If not for the discussion of the forum, I would not have even known about the licence change. AI

Re: [talk-au] i presume university western sydney

2011-02-04 Thread Richard Colless
On 4/02/2011 9:07 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Christian%20Nold/diary/12968 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au Correct, Elizabeth. Penrith is one of

Re: [talk-au] Does this mean?.....

2010-12-21 Thread Richard Colless
On 21/12/2010 2:04 PM, Ian Sergeant wrote: On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: Since taking a photo of something entails little or no "independent intellectual effort", On 21 December 2010

Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-17 Thread Richard Colless
Do you have any suggestions on how contours should be marked? eg every 10m elevation, or 5 or 50 or ... ? In regard to contours, the maps from Contours Australia work really well. For Garmin devices, they can be downloaded concurrently with OSM maps. I have been using them in this way

Re: [talk-au] T-Shirts

2010-05-25 Thread Richard Colless
John Smith wrote: On 23 May 2010 21:50, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: interested, I don't have any designs in mind, or any other planning. Thanks to Sam for pointing out this page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tshirt_competition Also Harvey

Re: [talk-au] T-Shirts

2010-05-25 Thread Richard Colless
John Smith wrote: On 25 May 2010 19:39, Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au wrote: You can also buy a special "Iron-On Transfer" paper at specialist paper supply shops, and print your own design, using any standard inkjet printer. Works really well, as long as yo

Re: [talk-au] Tagging stormwater drain areas?

2010-05-17 Thread Richard Colless
Liz wrote: On Mon, 17 May 2010, Steve Bennett wrote: Incidentally, to make sure I'm understanding what we're talking about, you're talking about an area where water runs *into*, in order to seep into the soil? That would be a "retention basin" I think, and these drains

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-29 Thread Richard Colless
John Smith wrote: This roundabout seems decorative to me http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-35.921013,145.647941z=21t=knmd=20100122 It's obviously designed to co-ordinate with the herringbone pattern in the adjacent parking lot. :-) Richard

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-27 Thread Richard Colless
Liz wrote: On Tue, 27 Apr 2010, Ben Kelley wrote: This is currently a real roundabout in OSM, but local knowledge tells me that it is impossible to go around more than about 90 degrees 270 degrees at this intersection. That is, from any approach, you can turn

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-26 Thread Richard Colless
John Kitchener wrote: For me, the single most relevant issue is how does a mini roundabout display with Garmin turn by voice routing? From memory (I havent played with it recently), a mini roundabout works in Garmin as a standard cross street. This is quite confusing

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

2010-04-25 Thread Richard Colless
John Smith wrote: On 25 April 2010 00:33, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: This is definitely not a mini_roundabout even if we had such in Australia which has previously been agreed we don't have them. I wasn't in on that discussion. If we don't have them in

Re: [talk-au] Missing Motorway names

2010-04-10 Thread Richard Colless
John Smith wrote: On 10 April 2010 17:42, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: certainly there is now an M1 sign on the Hume Highway, just south of the Illawarra Highway turnoff, and it still costs zilch. 1 or 31? And does it really have an "M"? Most signs on the Hume

Re: [talk-au] Missing Motorway names

2010-04-09 Thread Richard Colless
I don't control the software generating the GPS data. I use the downloads from OSM Australia. It's not just the navigation. The display doesn't show the correct names either. John Smith wrote: On 8 April 2010 22:13, Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au wrote: I was using my GPS

Re: [talk-au] Missing Motorway names

2010-04-09 Thread Richard Colless
riptor. The M4 motorway has just ceased to be a toll road (a few weeks ago), but as far as I know, there are no plans to change its numerical description. Richard. John Smith wrote: On 8 April 2010 22:13, Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au wrote: I had a look at the M5, and there i

[talk-au] Missing Motorway names

2010-04-08 Thread Richard Colless
I was using my GPS to navigate to an unfamiliar street today. Part of the route included the M5 motorway in southwest Sydney. Usually, the message on the GPS reads "East on Brown Street" or "Brown Street to Greens Road". However, while on the M5, the message simply read "East on road". Not

Re: [talk-au] Floodways ?

2010-04-06 Thread Richard Colless
I've used waterway=drain for some of the other waterways in this area - scroll north a bit from Franc's map to see the drain that runs between Dunn Street and Topham Road. That's a real drain - even looks like the picture in the Wiki. But I assume Franc is referring to the large grassed area

Re: [talk-au] Floodways ?

2010-04-06 Thread Richard Colless
Yes, but how would you map them? The ones at Narellan are about 50 metres wide, and I know of others that are wider. Too wide for a single line like a concrete drain. John Smith wrote: On 6 April 2010 18:24, Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au wrote: the blocks of houses

Re: [talk-au] Incorrectly expanding abbreviations

2010-03-10 Thread Richard Colless
John Smith wrote: Or at least getting them to tag what is signed, I've never seen a "Saint George" bank, but I've seen plenty of St George banks... and people changed the town of St George to Saint George... If you are correcting the bank name, it is actually "St.George" - includes the

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-13 Thread Richard Colless
, Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au wrote: This link has a download for Caltex and Caltex Woolworths servos, in CSV format: http://apps.nowwhere.com.au/caltex/austlocator/search.aspx All 1817 points were added to the database, although there were 9 pairs of points that shared

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-13 Thread Richard Colless
David Murn wrote: All 1817 points were added to the database, although there were 9 pairs of points that shared the same location even though the address details given were different, bad geocoding... I must have missed it, but was permission granted by the content owners,

Re: [talk-au] Fixing ABS boundaries?

2010-02-13 Thread Richard Colless
Sam Wilson wrote: So the ABS defines boundaries with coordinates, then? Rather than roads etc. (as, say, electoral boundaries are defined)? You're quite right, there's no reason to change the ABS data if it is, by definition, correct. I guess I'd just been thinking that it was

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-08 Thread Richard Colless
number. I don't know if the mapping can be adjusted to show other fields - maybe Matt from OSM Aus could answer that. Richard David Murn wrote: On Sun, 2010-02-07 at 23:06 +1100, Richard Colless wrote: But that probably won't show up when you do a waypoint search - it certainly won't o

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-08 Thread Richard Colless
This link has a download for Caltex and Caltex Woolworths servos, in CSV format: http://apps.nowwhere.com.au/caltex/austlocator/search.aspx Anyone care to add it to the database? That one's outside my skills at this stage. Richard John Smith wrote: On 8 February 2010 20:32, David Murn

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-07 Thread Richard Colless
But that probably won't show up when you do a waypoint search - it certainly won't on my Etrex. So the best coding is using "name=Coles Express" or "name=Woolworths discount" (or whatever the Woolies ones are called). That show up as soon as you do a search for Fuel services. Richard Steve

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-06 Thread Richard Colless
Not so, John. We regularly shop at Woolworths, and when our grocery bill (or LiquorLand purchase) is more than $30, we get a fuel discount voucher printed on the bottom of the docket. We don't use loyalty cards/ Richard John Henderson wrote: John Smith wrote:

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-06 Thread Richard Colless
The easiest is operator =Shell, name = Coles Express Campbelltown (discount voucher) or operator - Shell , name = Shell Luddenham (no vouchers). This is in accord with the actual trading names. I think there is a similar situation for Woolworths/Caltex servos. Richard. John Smith wrote:

Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map

2010-02-03 Thread Richard Colless
I spent a couple of days in Canberra recently. Getting around via the OSM maps was great - everything there and accurate. But, when I wanted to find a church on Sunday morning, I could only find one, and sorry, wrong denomination. Maybe a few more churches (all faiths) could be added to the

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Most of Busselton deleted

2010-02-02 Thread Richard Colless
This could have been an accident, not malicious damage. When I was editing streets in my home suburb, mainly just adding in street names, I needed to cut a street at a node because it changes its name. Somewhere along the way, the street disappeared. When I edited it (using Potlatch), the

Re: [talk-au] Incorrect entry to BP service station

2010-01-13 Thread Richard Colless
Richard Colless wrote: The route instructions asked me to travel to west to Birch Street, make a right turn, proceed north to Debrincat Avenue, then turn left into Glossop and proceed south to the service station -travel right round the block instead of using the service station

Re: [talk-au] Incorrect entry to BP service station

2010-01-13 Thread Richard Colless
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Sam Couter s...@couter.id.au wrote: Trying to drive or route to disconnected nodes is nonsensical. A question, then: what proportion of OSM POI's are disconnected? Should we be taking steps (in terms of mapping guidelines) to ensure POI

[talk-au] Incorrect entry to BP service station

2010-01-12 Thread Richard Colless
I've been testing routing instructions on my Garmin for routes that I use regularly - makes great quality control, as it shows up badly drawn roundabouts, incorrect streets, all sorts of rubbish. A while back I tried to navigate to a BP service station from only a few hundred metres away. You

Re: [talk-au] Incorrect entry to BP service station

2010-01-12 Thread Richard Colless
John Smith wrote: 2010/1/12 Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au: I thought of that. I just don't like using sledgehammers on walnuts. The service road exists in reality, so it's just a matter of improving the map to reflect reality more closely. In fact a lot of servos

[talk-au] Lists of available POI's

2010-01-09 Thread Richard Colless
I was reading some threads on another forum, and found this link: http://www.poidb.com/default.asp It's the Australian Points of Interest Database. Has all sorts of interesting POI's, including the BP service stations, Woolworths, Aldi and lots of general interest stuff. I downloaded a list

Re: [talk-au] Lists of available POI's

2010-01-09 Thread Richard Colless
John Smith wrote: 2010/1/9 Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au: I have the file. Now, how do I upload this stuff into OSM? You don't the license is incompatible with OSM... http://www.poidb.com/legal/terms-of-use.asp "No commercial use of this site is permitted

Re: [talk-au] Lists of available POI's

2010-01-09 Thread Richard Colless
John Smith wrote: 2010/1/9 Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au: Thanks John. Had so much trouble trying to download the list in bulk that I didn't go through the rest of the site. We have most if not all the BP locations imported the other day, most haven't been

Re: [talk-au] Copyright questions

2010-01-06 Thread Richard Colless
Steve Bennett wrote: Interesting. What strikes me about the street names thing is that in general, there's actually no way to prove it, other than by the person's own admission. Whereas with copyright breach in general, you can show a similarity between two expressions of an idea. But

Re: [talk-au] Error with Grose Rd Faulconbridge NSW

2010-01-06 Thread Richard Colless
John Smith wrote: 2010/1/5 Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au: I was testing the Garmin's route instructions on some familiar roads today. Normally it says "SW on Northern Road to Roundabout", followed by "2nd exit on roundabout" or similar. but one p

Re: [talk-au] Error with Grose Rd Faulconbridge NSW

2010-01-06 Thread Richard Colless
John Smith wrote: 2010/1/6 Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au: The roundabout was named as "The Northern Road" in the OSM data - the same name as the road to the north and south of it. I meant in reality, most roundabouts aren't named, although some are

Re: [talk-au] Copyright questions

2010-01-05 Thread Richard Colless
John Henderson wrote: I go to the local tourist information place and start asking for names. They give me a photocopy of a street directory which shows all the names. But this photocopy has a copyright notice. Can I enter names from that page into OSM for the already-mapped ways? I

Re: [talk-au] Error with Grose Rd Faulconbridge NSW

2010-01-05 Thread Richard Colless
Liz wrote: Be brave nothing ventured, nothing gained. a circular way (usually) one way (get that bit right) highway=type junction=roundabout may have a name, but not often join the other roads on Following on from this and some earlier discussion about naming roundabouts. I was

[talk-au] Invisible POI's

2010-01-03 Thread Richard Colless
The trip to Timor Caves went well - now have "tourist" POI's for four of the caves, although it's a brave tourist that will use them. Also managed to survey most of the streets of Murrurundi, NSW. During this job, I noticed some interesting POI's. Just North of Murrurundi, there is a speed

Re: [talk-au] Wrong way round the roundabout

2009-12-28 Thread Richard Colless
highway=unclassified good deal of discussion about this so another point of view is "residential" for those industrial area streets and unclassified is a road classification below tertiary in rural areas (there is no conclusion about this, whether this

Re: [talk-au] Wrong way round the roundabout

2009-12-27 Thread Richard Colless
John Smith wrote: 2009/12/27 John Henderson snow...@gmx.com: Richard Colless wrote: I was trying out the latest routable OSM maps, and came across a couple of odd items. One was a roundabout where the Etrex told me to go round it in the wrong direction - anti

Re: [talk-au] railway lines and nearmap

2009-12-26 Thread Richard Colless
Franc Carter wrote: Hi, Somethng that struck me recently is that in areas with NearMap coverage there is potential to do a much better job of mapping railway lines - i.e lines, sidings etc could be added. What's people opinions on doing so ? cheers I've been driving around some

Re: [talk-au] railway lines and nearmap

2009-12-26 Thread Richard Colless
John Smith wrote: 2009/12/26 Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au: What's people opinions on doing so ? More information the better :) Just because it exists in the database doesn't mean it always has to be rendered, different renderings suit different people, which

[talk-au] Wrong way round the roundabout

2009-12-26 Thread Richard Colless
I was trying out the latest routable OSM maps, and came across a couple of odd items. One was a roundabout where the Etrex told me to go round it in the wrong direction - anti-clockwise. It's the only one that gave me the wrong direction. I assume that there is something wrong in the way the

Re: [talk-au] Routable maps

2009-12-23 Thread Richard Colless
additional links but the site is a pig to navigate around) Matt Richard Colless wrote: I'm new to OSM, having recently replaced my 12 year old Magellan GPS with a Garmin Etrex Legend CX. I've been following with some interest the discussion about roundabouts and how