Re: [talk-au] Another tool for finding Poke-paths

2017-02-05 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 3 February 2017 at 10:08, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > The ones I looked at were http://osmcha.mapbox.com/45454430/ (the zig-zag > made me wonder?) & http://osmcha.mapbox.com/45454374/ (a nice straight > rectangular path?). In my opinion, for the first one, it does seem

Re: [talk-au] Residential Coordinates

2017-02-04 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I'd recommending reading up about Imports in OSM at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import. Neither the rental property data (since you say you scraped it, I'll presume it's not under a compatible open license) nor the geocodes from Bing maps are going to pass the License approval as per

Re: [talk-au] Another tool for finding Poke-paths

2017-02-02 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 2 Feb 2017 6:04 PM, "Graeme Fitzpatrick" wrote: 2 of them are footpaths (in 1 case, a very funny shaped path!) in parks. Looking on Google Maps, there are no paths showing in either of those parks - are we able to use Google to confirm that something *doesn't* exist, &

Re: [talk-au] New User Surge.

2017-01-27 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
> https://mic.com/articles/166654/pokemon-go-hack-altering-openstreetmap-data-may-create-new-spawn-points-in-the-game Certainly seems like a lot of these new contributors could be doing it for this reason. On 28 January 2017 at 09:00, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have examined the

Re: [talk-au] How to tag swimming pontoons

2017-01-25 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I would tag the ladder as a node per https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ladder. As for the pontoon, per https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dpier "The man_made=pier tag is used for a raised walkway over water supported by pillars made of metal/wood, or floating and secured

Re: [talk-au] Advice on Tags in a Hamlet

2017-01-15 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 16 January 2017 at 10:30, Simon Slater wrote: > How can I tag to reflect this, leaving > the Lalbert - Kerang tag for the bigger picture? > You can split the way, if the road changes name, and use the different names for different sections. At least if that matches up

Re: [talk-au] Local Government Areas without Councils

2017-01-12 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
> For practical purposes they perform the same duties, therefore the same admin_level should be used. I agree with this. The difference between unincorporated or not could be added by a new tag to indicate, could be determined from the name, or from the operator tag which links to the legal

Re: [talk-au] Public source for street numbers

2017-01-10 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On Wed, 11 Jan 2017, at 12:17 AM, Luke Picciau wrote: > Are there any free to use sources for street numbers and property > borders? I have seen quite a lot of maps that have all the street > numbers and property borders and I cant see how they would have this > without some kind of government

Re: [talk-au] Local Government Areas without Councils

2017-01-04 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I agree that since the area is commonly known and and referred to as "Unincorporated Area of Far West NSW" so should be mapped in OSM and with that name. The other name tags In my opinion this area should be tagged as admin_level=6 since it acts and feels like other Shires, Councils, etc. Even if

Re: [talk-au] Mapping Military bases

2016-08-13 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On Sat, 13 Aug 2016, at 03:02 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > G'day all > > Question that may have been raised before (BTW, is there any way of > searching the list archives, apart from looking at every thread in > each month?). > > Do we have an Aussie policy regarding mapping of military bases?

Re: [talk-au] Use of Gold Coast Council info?

2016-08-10 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On Wed, 10 Aug 2016, at 05:10 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Gold Coast City Council have (fairly) recently set up an online city plan:  > http://cityplanmaps.goldcoast.qld.gov.au/CityPlan/, which shows planning > zones etc as well as street names. Have you taken a look at the open data they

Re: [talk-au] Use of Gold Coast Council info?

2016-08-10 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On Wed, 10 Aug 2016, at 05:10 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > So, how about that one, can we use it? No, the license you quoted is too restrictuve and doesn't allow including data in OSM. > Has anybody ever dealt with GCCC re access to their data? Any luck? > May be a letter to the CEO asking

Re: [talk-au] Australia "changing coordinates"

2016-08-02 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I found this explanation helpful http://www.geoproject.com.au/gda.faq.html#q16 On Tue, 2 Aug 2016, at 01:57 PM, Andrew Davidson wrote: > What to do about it? Unfortunately the changeover to GDA2020 is not > going to happen overnight, the plan is for a three year transition > starting in 2017.

Re: [talk-au] Australia "changing coordinates"

2016-07-29 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On Sat, 30 Jul 2016, at 08:40 AM, Warin wrote: > The change, distance wise, is upto 1.5 metres, well within commercial > GPS uncertainties. > > The change is to the datum. How this will work out with future global > datums we will have to wait and see. > > In another 30 years there will

Re: [talk-au] Wikidata IDs in OSM

2016-07-18 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
> Secondly, we have had success in using a bot to add IDs automatically, > but the bot approval list requires local agreement. How would you feel > about us, or one of you (I think the code can be shared), doing so for > all of Australia, or on a state-by-state (or other division) basis?

Re: [talk-au] Response regarding use of PSMA Administrative Boundaries (Australia)

2016-07-09 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 10 July 2016 at 14:06, cleary wrote: > Feedback from the legal-talk list is that the reply from the Department > of Prime Minister and Cabinet is not sufficient and therefore we cannot > use PSMA datasets in OSM. > > As far as I can ascertain, the lines on the Contributors page

Re: [talk-au] Checking on bug-fixes before committing changes.

2016-07-08 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 9 July 2016 at 12:55, Simon Slater wrote: >> > 3/ A couple of these too, 'Approximate highway primary discart from >> > 35.5339969622m ' I have a GPS track for at least 1 of these at the moment. >> >> Can you point to where this is? > >

Re: [talk-au] Checking on bug-fixes before committing changes.

2016-07-08 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 9 July 2016 at 11:20, Simon Slater wrote: > 1/ There are a few 'Bad value for sport=cricket,_australian_football' in > the > area. The use of the pitch is correct, is the syntax of the tag value wrong? the convention is to use ; to separate multiple tag values. See

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] MAPS.ME combining OSM data and non-OSM data?

2016-07-08 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 8 July 2016 at 23:47, Simon Poole wrote: > Both the Horizontal Layer and the Collective Database guidelines address > a specific de-duplication issue (in respect to the above use case): if > you take your proprietary dataset and remove all POIs from the OSM > dataset that

[OSM-legal-talk] MAPS.ME combining OSM data and non-OSM data?

2016-07-08 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
According to [1] if someone combines non-horizontal layers together, the results must be shared under the ODBL. From my investigation it appears that the MAPS.ME app [2] is combining OSM hotels with non-OSM hotels. https://tianjara.net/hosted/maps.me-1.png is a screenshot from the app. Hotel A

Re: [talk-au] Checking on bug-fixes before committing changes.

2016-07-07 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 7 Jul 2016 7:21 PM, "Simon Slater" wrote: > > G'day all, > While waiting in the Balranald Bakery yesterday I thought I'd install > OSMBugs and OSMTracker and see what needed doing in the area. Since this is > the first time I've done this, I've a couple of

Re: [talk-au] Possible illegal imports in Western Australia

2016-07-06 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
u > could do this. Thanks. > > > > > On Tue, Jul 5, 2016, at 09:34 PM, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > > On 5 Jul 2016 8:26 PM, "cleary" <o...@97k.com> wrote: > >> I have been looking at some South Australian administrative boundaries. >> The South Australia

Re: [talk-au] Possible illegal imports in Western Australia

2016-07-05 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 5 Jul 2016 8:26 PM, "cleary" wrote: > I have been looking at some South Australian administrative boundaries. > The South Australia / Western Australia border is a bit messy and I was > looking to see it I could sort it out. I realised that some of the data > is part of the

Re: [talk-au] GNAF (address) data re-visited

2016-06-27 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 26 June 2016 at 10:11, cleary wrote: > > Thanks to Simon and Andrew for your responses which I now understand. Can I > now follow-on and request clarification about other data from data.gov.au - > for example the sources listed in the wiki for Queensland Local Government > Areas

Re: [talk-au] GNAF (address) data re-visited

2016-06-27 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 26 June 2016 at 13:36, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: >But I already am dragging the chain > in a few areas .. post offices and libraries from the LPI for instance. Then > there is camp sites, tourist information offices.. In my opinion be careful with that as some of that data is either

Re: [talk-au] GNAF (address) data re-visited

2016-06-25 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 25 June 2016 at 13:35, cleary wrote: > I'm sorry that I'm slow in picking up an old thread from about six months > ago but I remain uncertain about the implications. > > As I understand the situation, the licence that accompanies the GNAF > (address) data from data.gov.au is not

Re: [talk-au] Possible illegal imports in Western Australia

2016-06-25 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Ok this should be all reverted now. On 25 June 2016 at 09:12, Andrew Harvey <andrew.harv...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ok, reverting the FIX SOURCES changesets in progress, it could take a while > to finish, it's been running overnight and still going. > > 40207793 > 40207001

Re: [talk-au] Possible illegal imports in Western Australia

2016-06-24 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Hi DWG, As per this thread on talk-au, a user was found to be importing data without consultation of the community and data which we don't appear to have a suitable license for. These are their changesets for their imports before a block was imposed on the user. 40195731 40195392 40195333

Re: [talk-au] Possible illegal imports in Western Australia

2016-06-24 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Ok, reverting the FIX SOURCES changesets in progress, it could take a while to finish, it's been running overnight and still going. 40207793 40207001 40206754 40206373 40206195 40206035 40205790 40205709 40205378 40205189 40204886 40204783 40204680 40204617 40204561 40204500 40204341 40204199

Re: [talk-au] Possible illegal imports in Western Australia

2016-06-24 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 24 June 2016 at 21:02, cleary wrote: > Yes, Seems appropriate to revert these changes. Okay I'm taking a crack using https://github.com/woodpeck/osm-revert-scripts.git, for changesets 40197428 to current (source deletion), best if no one else tries to make changes to these for

Re: [talk-au] Possible illegal imports in Western Australia

2016-06-24 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 24 June 2016 at 17:52, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Last Changeset: 40207793 looks to be removing the tag source=nearmap All their latest "FIX SOURCES" are like that and these are invalid. I mapped some of the original features from nearmap and since they didn't actually change

Re: [OSM-talk] MAPS.ME edits - partly sub-standard

2016-06-21 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 21 June 2016 at 08:26, Nicolás Alvarez wrote: > But you don't need to; Maps.me already provides semi-official current map > files! > http://direct.mapswithme.com/regular/daily/ I assume I need to manually download these and put them in the right directory on my

Re: [OSM-talk] MAPS.ME edits - partly sub-standard

2016-06-20 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 20 June 2016 at 22:48, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: > Maps.me editor has got the principal difference from other editors, - it can > be used without an active Internet connection. I've been editing in JOSM for years and just started editing with Maps.me, and the fact

Re: [talk-au] Refreshing NSW place names from the GNB database.

2016-04-06 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
As far as I can tell, this data isn't available under a free and open license, so unless there is documentation somewhere to suggest otherwise, it shouldn't have been imported to begin with and certainly shouldn't be added again. On 7 April 2016 at 11:30, Andrew Davidson

Re: [talk-au] Position magazine: looking for perspectives on G-NAF

2016-03-01 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
, but for now this combine at the application level approach is a very straight foward way for folks to use open geospatial data. These are just my thoughts, would love for others to weigh in on their thinking. Cheers, -- Andrew Harvey CEO *Alantgeo* www.alantgeo.com.au https://au.linkedin.com

Re: [talk-au] Govt releases geocoded national address and boundaries datasets

2016-02-26 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I would like to see a report which shows the differences between current OSM and GNAF + Admin Boundaries. I'm interested in putting something together for this but at bit busy at the moment. If anyone is interested in this, please let us know what you're up to. I think ideally it would show

Re: [talk-au] LPI Base Map road names

2016-02-21 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 21 February 2016 at 20:49, Mark Pulley wrote: > 2. Sometimes the name of the way on LPI is different to the existing name > in OSM. Most of the time this simply involves splitting the way where a > road name changes. I’ve noticed a few times when the road name on OSM is

Re: [talk-au] JOSM Scanaerial plugin on NSW LPI layers

2016-01-24 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 25 January 2016 at 15:31, Ian Sergeant wrote: >> But the border has not changed the river might have but there is no change >> to the border from when it was first surveyed/gazetted. The border is the >> line as when gazetted, not as where the riverbank is now. > > I

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using a WMS imagery with CC-BY4.0

2015-12-24 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Sorry my mistake. Thanks for picking up on that. On 24/12/2015 9:01 pm, "Simon Poole" <si...@poole.ch> wrote: > Am 23.12.2015 um 23:58 schrieb Andrew Harvey: > > I'm really keen on seeing this compatibility question resolved too. CC > > BY is becoming the

[talk-au] National Park Boundaries from LPI NSW Admin Boundaries

2015-12-23 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 23 December 2015 at 22:33, Nev Wedding wrote: > I have been using the LPI NSW Administrative Boundaries NPWS Reserve to > enter the boundaries of each section of the Goobang National Park as I was > recently there and recorded a few gps tracks as well. > It seems to me that

Re: [talk-au] Importing Vicmap Lite data

2015-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
It might be worth mentioning how LPI in NSW have approached this. See: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2015-December/thread.html#10709 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2015-December/008331.html I'm happy to have a go in the new year if you like Steve? On 14

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] NSW LPI permission

2015-12-21 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 22 December 2015 at 03:48, Tom Lee wrote: > Point 1 is simple agreement. > > Point 2 also seems fine (obviously it's impossible to anticipate every > possible future for OSM, but an attribution-free one seems about as unlikely > as any). > > Point 3 is the least appealing, but

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] NSW LPI permission

2015-12-20 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
LPI data into OSM and then filtered the planet extract or API to only return LPI data, they would need to provide LPI attribution as per their request and not just attribute this as OSM. On 13 December 2015 at 21:57, Andrew Harvey <andrew.harv...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 12 December 2015 at

Re: [talk-au] Inappropriate tagged areas

2015-12-16 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
+1 for separating out landcover and administrative boundaries into separate ways. In practice it's often a good approximation to simply combine these, however once you want more accurate data they'll need to be separated out. On 17 December 2015 at 08:24, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: >

Re: [talk-au] (no subject)

2015-12-13 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Thanks for letting us know. I checked out one particular changeset, 35907472, looking at the geometry changes at http://osmhv.openstreetmap.de/changeset.jsp?id=35907472. It appears like there is some missing data which they have added (which is great). But it also appears that they have removed

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] NSW LPI permission

2015-12-13 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 12 December 2015 at 22:47, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: > If their legal people are genuinely happy for the ODbL level of > attribution (particularly with respect to produced works), then it > would make everyone's life much easier if they were able to

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] NSW LPI permission

2015-12-11 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 12 December 2015 at 04:11, Tom Lee wrote: > Andrew, I am not a member of the LWG, but insofar as: > > - questions regarding CC-BY 3.0's compatibility with ODbL hinge on the > impracticality of downstream compliance with the license's attribution > requirements in a geo context

Re: [talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data

2015-12-09 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 10 December 2015 at 11:23, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I want to make sure that we have solid legal foundations for this, and >> would like to run it by the legal-talk list first for advice. >> > > What is your position? > > You are uncertain of the legal use of the data, yet > you

Re: [talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data in JOSM

2015-12-08 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 9 December 2015 at 02:22, Simon Poole wrote: > May I suggest adding similar entries to > https://github.com/osmlab/editor-imagery-index so that iD and other > editors can make the imagery available too? Yes, I'll do that today. On 6 December 2015 at 11:49, Andrew Davidson

Re: [talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data in JOSM

2015-12-08 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 9 December 2015 at 02:22, Simon Poole wrote: > May I suggest adding similar entries to > https://github.com/osmlab/editor-imagery-index so that iD and other > editors can make the imagery available too? Done https://github.com/osmlab/editor-imagery-index/pull/118

Re: [talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data

2015-12-08 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
with the response I got. On 7 December 2015 at 14:45, Andrew Harvey <andrew.harv...@gmail.com> wrote: > This conversation is quite scattered now but, > > I've followed up with contact given in your letter (Diana Stewart) with my > concerns and questions. Specifically I've asked:

Re: [talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data in JOSM

2015-12-07 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I've put together a JOSM Imagery Sources document at https://gist.github.com/andrewharvey/84959a3025d32ef6237c and added this to the list for JOSM at https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Maps/Australia. Next job is to translate this into JSON for https://github.com/osmlab/editor-imagery-index. On

[talk-au] Bushwalking site using OSM

2015-12-07 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I just wanted to share a project I've been working on recently, which provides bush walking information, mainly in NSW. http://beyondtracks.com/ Most of the route geometries have come from OpenStreetMap, the basemaps are using OpenStreetMap, I've pulled in points of interest along the walk from

Re: [talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data

2015-12-06 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
This conversation is quite scattered now but, I've followed up with contact given in your letter (Diana Stewart) with my concerns and questions. Specifically I've asked: 1. what does the statement "Where specific licence terms (such as Creative > Commons) are applied to datasets, those licence

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing a combined OSM adapted and CC-BY derived work

2015-11-23 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
attribution and dual licensing of my new work. If it's okay, then this opens up a problem that my changes can't be incorporated into OSM which defeats the whole point of the copyleft OSM licence? On 23/11/2015 9:33 pm, "Simon Poole" <si...@poole.ch> wrote: > > > Am 23.11.201

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing a combined OSM adapted and CC-BY derived work

2015-11-22 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 23 November 2015 at 13:27, Paul Norman wrote: > CC BY 3.0 doesn't allow you to do this, as it requires you to impose > conditions not present in the ODbL. When I publish my new work, I add all the required attributions and statements required by the CC-BY 3.0 license (in

[OSM-legal-talk] Licensing a combined OSM adapted and CC-BY derived work

2015-11-22 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I consume OSM data, adapt it for my needs by adjusting OSM geometries to match CC-BY licensed aerial imagery, and then publish the result publicly. To comply with the OSM data's ODBL license, my published results contain a notice that it is "based on data (c) OpenStreetMap Contributors under the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licensing a combined OSM adapted and CC-BY derived work

2015-11-22 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 23 November 2015 at 13:06, Andrew Harvey <andrew.harv...@gmail.com> wrote: > To comply with the OSM data's ODBL license, my published results > contain a notice that it is "based on data (c) OpenStreetMap > Contributors under the Open Database License > http://www.open

Re: [talk-au] Melbourne Airport (mapped as both node and way)

2015-10-01 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
When travelling to an airport, you normally travel to a terminal which are separately mapped, ideally with an entrance=main. Where would you put this point at say Sydney where international and domestic are on opposite sides? I think it's not the same as admin_center for admin boundaries. On

[talk-au] Melbourne Airport (mapped as both node and way)

2015-09-30 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Currently Melbourne Airport appears in the database twice, once as a node once as a way. Is there any reason why I should not move the tags from the node to the way and delete the node? http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/235151361 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/305804278

Re: [talk-au] Melbourne Airport (mapped as both node and way)

2015-09-30 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
aving >> unlimited precision and Garmin having a max resolution of a few metres, so >> I might have removed a few extraneous nodes here and there :), but I try >> real hard not to “map for the renderer” >> >> Alex >> >> >> On 1 Oct 2015, at 5:26

Re: [talk-au] Average speed limit cameras

2015-09-17 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
> On 18/09/15 12:26, Andrew Davidson wrote: >> Currently in NSW point-to-point cameras are only used to check heavy >> vehicle speeds. But if all evidence on the ground indicates such point-to-point cameras are active and doesn't indicated their use only for heavy vehicles, shouldn't we map it as

Re: [talk-au] Distinguishing between low-friction and high-friction shared paths

2015-09-02 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I agree with what Warin said, but perhaps footway=sidewalk http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:footway%3Dsidewalk could be added as a tag for case (1), since these are basically sidewalks which have been repurposed as shared sidewalk/cycleway? On 3 September 2015 at 13:35, Chris

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Any expert CC-BY -> ODbL negotiators?

2015-09-01 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
> Thanks, Jukka. I suspect that "permission" isn't actually valid, as it > seems to extend from data.gov.au (Federal government) but most of the > datasets there are state or territory (eg, the VicMap Rivers dataset), and > are published on the relevant state/territory data portals

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Any expert CC-BY - ODbL negotiators?

2015-08-30 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 31 August 2015 at 12:05, Andrew Turner ajtur...@highearthorbit.com wrote: So a simpler route here would be to suggest upgrading to use CC-By 4.0? Or is Paul stating there is no known version of Creative Commons that is acceptable to OSM except the completely unencumbered CC0? See

Re: [talk-au] Unauthorised bike trails in national parks

2015-07-29 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 30 July 2015 at 11:52, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: The track exists and is mappable. It is not blocked off. Parks Vic prefers light handed regulation so I used mild language to describe the track status.

Re: [talk-au] tagging Fords and routing

2015-07-20 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Can you point to which ford node/way is causing you the issue? Just as a quick test this route works and it passes a ford=yes node: http://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=osrm_carroute=-33.4973%2C150.7659%3B-33.5122%2C150.7665 On 20 July 2015 at 14:52, David Clark

Re: [talk-au] AGRI.openstreetmap.org not working

2015-05-21 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 21 May 2015 at 22:02, Mark Pulley mrpul...@lizzy.com.au wrote: Just a gentle reminder! Is AGRI likely to be coming back? I recently did some edits at Old Bar (NSW), and Bing imagery here shows a very large cloud over the town. Did you try out Mapbox Satellite in the area? I would still

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] What extra permissions are needed to include CC-BY data in OSM

2015-05-05 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Just found http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/GettingPermission it has hints about what extra permissions we require. On 5 May 2015 at 19:27, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: I'm bringing up a conversation from talk-au pertaining to what additional permissions we need from

[OSM-legal-talk] What extra permissions are needed to include CC-BY data in OSM

2015-05-05 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I'm bringing up a conversation from talk-au pertaining to what additional permissions we need from content owners in order to include or use as a source to derive further information from their CC-BY licensed data in OSM. Any advice is very much appreciated. On 16 April 2015 at 15:26, Paul

Re: [talk-au] OSM people in ACT [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2015-05-05 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I've also asked on legal-talk to try to find out what extra permissions on top of CC-BY are needed for potential inclusion in OSM at https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2015-May/008127.html On 5 May 2015 at 20:37, Phil (The Geek) Wyatt p...@wyatt-family.com wrote: Hi Folks, If

[talk-au] StreetToTransit connections mass edit

2015-04-25 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I've noticed the changeset https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/14080990 where the user connected a bunch of highways/footways with the railway=station node and used the name StreetToTransitConnection. I've asked the user about this in the changeset comment but I've had no reply. First

Re: [talk-au] National Park unclosed poly, want advice

2015-04-21 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 22 April 2015 at 06:23, Nathanael Coyne n...@purecaffeine.com wrote: Now I've also got this situation where the much larger but very low fidelity forest poly is conflicting with my new high-fidelity poly for the actual Murramarang National Park

Re: [talk-au] Use of mapconnect and CAPAD data in OSM

2015-04-16 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 16 April 2015 at 15:23, Warren war...@specialtyfeeds.com.au wrote: I did look at Ross's suggestion of the 2014 CAPAD data set. From my initial look and my local knowledge it seems to be complete and more current. Thanks Ross. The data set is fairly big so it needs to be broken up to be

Re: [talk-au] Use of mapconnect data in OSM [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2015-04-15 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 15 April 2015 at 23:01, Ross i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: The issue is not with the licence. The current terms and conditions require permission to add data not owned by the contributor. Is there a source for this statement? I was under the assumption that in order to contribute data

Re: [talk-au] Use of mapconnect data in OSM

2015-04-06 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 5 April 2015 at 19:38, Warren war...@specialtyfeeds.com.au wrote: I was looking for a way to import National Park Boundaries into OSM. The data is there but, lets face it the licensing issues are so complex that I do not know if we are allowed. Indeed. I've been using the CAPAD database

Re: [talk-au] Early OpenStreetMap references/events in Australia

2015-02-22 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Hi Simon, Just curious what's this used for? There was an OSM stream of talks at The Queensland Surveying and Spatial Conference 2012. http://www.sssi.org.au/userfiles/docs/QLD%20Region/documents_13481922731168057830.pdf Cheers, Andrew On 21 February 2015 at 23:06, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Australian Government Department of Communications - Geocoded addressing survey [DLM=For-Official-Use-Only]

2015-02-10 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Hi Paul, I've completed their survey from a individual level, however will OSMF be submitting an OSMF response? I'm not 100% across what exact licensing conditions the data would need to be released under to leave open the possibility of incorporating it into OSM. Hence I've omitted that from my

Re: [OSM-talk] Galaxy S3 for Mapping

2015-02-01 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
I ensure I leave the app osmtracker tracking in the background, at least this way I can ensure that the GPS is constantly trying to get a fix, as the camera app may only try to get a GPS fix while it's active which might not leave enough time to get that fix? On 02/02/2015 12:52 pm, Mike Thompson

Re: [talk-au] Question - names of motorways leaving Sydney

2014-09-08 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 7 September 2014 16:10, Mark Pulley mrpul...@lizzy.com.au wrote: When the new alphanumeric route numbers in NSW were unveiled, some of the motorways were renamed (e.g. Sydney-Newcastle Freeway became Pacific Motorway, South-Western Motorway became Hume Motorway). In OSM these all have

Re: [talk-au] AGRI.openstreetmap.org not working

2014-08-10 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 6 July 2014 15:30, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: We had a problem with the server (faffy) which runs agri.openstreetmap.org, it no longer starts up, we were limited on time and were not able to get it up and running again. I will visit the data centre in a week to fix or

Re: [talk-au] Wither Sydney suburb boundaries?

2014-04-27 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 27 April 2014 10:47, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: I have all the boundaries from ABS in OSM format in single file by suburb. If anyone would like a copy of the zip file, just drop me a note. I think Andrew has much the same on his website somewhere.

Re: [talk-au] Wither Sydney suburb boundaries?

2014-04-20 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 20 April 2014 23:36, Daniel O'Connor daniel.ocon...@gmail.com wrote: A corresponding data set might be: https://sdi.nsw.gov.au/sdi.nsw.gov.au/catalog/search/resource/details.page?uuid=%7B012BD68E-569E-4965-A4B0-48CBBBA64FF4%7D ... though you'd want to get in contact with the maintainers and

Re: [talk-au] NSW Transport Data Exchange (TDX)

2013-11-24 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
-process step to enhance/richen the OSM data, or for future import work. On 21 February 2013 14:00, Michael Gratton m...@vee.net wrote: On 20/02/13 22:24, Andrew Harvey wrote: Hmm... seems like they changed from CC-BY back to a custom license? Yeah, there's some onerous clauses for attribution

Re: [talk-au] Geoscience NATMAP 250K Topo Maps

2013-11-14 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 14 November 2013 10:36, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: If there's ECW files where it would be beneficial to host them, I could do or someone else could. They are at http://www.ga.gov.au/products/servlet/controller?event=PRODUCT_SELECTIONkeyword=natmap but I don't see the benifit in

[talk-au] Geoscience NATMAP 250K Topo Maps

2013-11-13 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
Just a heads up that GA have a tile service for their NATMAP 250K Topo Maps. So if you add this to JOSM/etc you can use this as a base layer to derive information from. http://www.ga.gov.au/gisimg/rest/services/topography/NATMAP_Digital_Maps_250K_2008Ed ition_WM/MapServer/tile/{zoom}/{y}/{x}

Re: [talk-au] Geoscience NATMAP 250K Topo Maps

2013-11-13 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 13 November 2013 22:01, David Bannon dban...@internode.on.net wrote: Interesting Andrew. Do you know much about this service ? I know that they also publish the original ECW files, which I originally converted to JPEG and hosted on my own server as a service which converted these into web map

Re: [talk-au] Rivers that have dams on them

2013-06-17 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Brett Russell brussell...@live.com.auwrote: So I researched the web I went edit-preference select the WMS-TSM box and entered the following using the URL option. Err it did not work. Above is the screen dump. Any pointers to what I have done wrong? Sorry

Re: [talk-au] Rivers that have dams on them

2013-06-16 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Brett Russell brussell...@live.com.auwrote: Also for drawing in rivers and streams it would be good in JOSM to have Contours Australia as a data layer so I can deal with rivers and streams that run under forest cover. What license is this Contours Australia

Re: [talk-au] NSW Transport Data Exchange (TDX)

2013-02-20 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 22/01/13 12:18, Michael Gratton wrote: Has there been any discussion about the Transport NSW TDX program https://tdx.131500.com.au/? I note they make available a GTFS file which should include the lat/long of all stops and stations, which would be nice to have in OSM. Their licence looks

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 65, Issue 24

2012-11-23 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 22/11/12 11:41, chuck sirron wrote: Hi all, Mike from TMR got in touch with me this morning reversing his statement about using tourist route information on local council maps, see below. I haven't used them to add anything to OSM anyway. Hi Wil, Unfortunately your posting on Open

Re: [talk-au] tagging 4WD and dirt roads - I give up.

2012-11-13 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 13/11/12 20:29, Ian Steer wrote: I have been following this topic on a casual basis (ie I don't feel passionately about it), but I think that what you have written sounds fine. I guess that you will hear from people that feel passionately against your views, but those that think that what

Re: [talk-au] tagging 4WD and dirt roads - want it ?

2012-11-12 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 11/11/12 09:31, David Bannon wrote: Andrew, thanks for the very carefully considered response. I agree with just about all the points you make but suggest your conclusion may not quite address the driver for this proposal. This is about getting knowledge into the hands of end users.

Re: [talk-au] tagging 4WD and dirt roads - want it ?

2012-11-09 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 10/11/12 12:33, David Bannon wrote: Righto folks, I have not had a lot of feedback about the drafted proposal to tidy up how 4x4 tracks (and other) are described. I added a bit about what happens when tags conflict after Li queried that but thats all !

Re: [talk-au] Dirt Roads

2012-10-25 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 22/10/12 11:20, Ross Scanlon wrote: Mapnik 2 will allow tagging of 4wd_only=recommended and 4wd_only=yes. An example of 4wd_only=yes here: http://map.4x4falcon.com/?zoom=14lat=-20.73023lon=116.99701layers=B0F The 4wd_only=recommended is similar but shows 4WD Recommended. It is a

[talk-au] UNSW buildings - copying from non-free source

2012-09-24 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/11658595 That changeset has comment Added building number as per http://www.facilities.unsw.edu.au/Maps/pdf/kensington.pdf; Which implies he has copied directly from the non-free map. You guys might want to revert it/liaise with the user directly. I

Re: [talk-au] Blocks of land - residential housing

2012-09-22 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 21/09/12 20:41, Leathal wrote: Hi I was just wondering what the tagging standard is for residential housing in suburbs? I can't find anything definitive, and most of the common methods such as landuse=residential is set aside for large scale areas (which is correct IMO). I ensure

Re: [talk-au] Rest areas

2012-09-19 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 20/09/12 06:03, John Henderson wrote: Hi all, I want to draw attention to the correct tag for rest areas, namely highway:rest_area http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Drest_area Most I've seen have been tagged as amenity:parking and/or tourism:camp_site. The camp_site

Re: [talk-au] Getting is right

2012-09-11 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
On 11/09/12 13:49, Ian Sergeant wrote: The Tasmanian Government clearly claims copyright. Why not write a nice letter to the General Manager, Information and Land Services. Set out that what OSM is, and ask for permission to check names against the LIST, and release the resulting data under

[talk-au] NSW Transport Transport Data Exchange

2012-09-05 Diskussionsfäden Andrew Harvey
[This post is dual posted because it may be of interest to both communities.] I've been looking into the NSW Transport transport data exchange program recently, and I'm providing a summary of what I've learnt. # About The TDX program is an effort by NSW Transport to open up transport data. This

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