Re: [Talk-cz] 3D mapa v OSM - pěkná hračka - dejte zoom

[Janda Martin]

Dobry den,

  muzu se zeptat co by jste cekal?

  Diky
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Od 3D mapy bych cekal neco vic nez, ze mi to naklopi a udelaji z budov kostky 
(navic nesmyslne).

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Re: [Talk-it] Mappatura centro storico

[Luca Delucchi]

Il 8 mar 2018 2:33 AM, "Martin Koppenhoefer"  ha
scritto:



credo che ci sia un API per caricare le tracce in OSM


Mi ricordavo anch'io qualcosa del genere, c'era anche uno script, però
qualche mese fa avevo cercato ma non avevo trovato più nulla


Ciao, Martin


Ciao
Luca
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Re: [Talk-it] itWikiCon 2018 a Como

[Dario Crespi]

Ciao a tutti,
torno sul tema itWikiCon 2018. Wikimedia Foundation richiede la
realizzazione di un questionario da far compilare ai membri della comunità
wikipediana e in base alle risposte (ma soprattutto in base al numero di
persone che rispondono) valuterà la richiesta di Grant per l'organizzazione.
Dato che, come sapete, vorremmo inserire una parte OSM durante itWikiCon,
linko anche a voi il questionario, da compilare entro il 20 marzo:
https://goo.gl/forms/W8AVvOXRfuSFgQdn1
Per la compilazione bastano 12 click.

Grazie e buon fine settimana
Dario

Il 01/mar/2018 18:35, "Dario Crespi"  ha scritto:

> Ho preparato una pagina (ancora informale) per raccogliere idee sul
> programma. La trovate qui: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ItWikiCon/2018/
> Programma
>
> Scrivete pure le vostre idee di presentazioni, workshop o altro. Più in là
> apriremo invece una call più strutturata, ma almeno intanto raccogliamo le
> buone idee :-)
>
> Dario
>
> Il giorno 1 marzo 2018 18:06, Dario Crespi  ha
> scritto:
>
>> Beh, grazie a tutti. Effettivamente parlare di programma adesso è un po'
>> presto, però prossimamente apriremo una pagina su meta per sondare gli
>> interessi e le disponibilità a tenere presentazioni o workshop da parte
>> della comunità. Nel frattempo, se volete e se vi sembra un'iniziativa
>> meritevole, potete dare il vostro endorsement in fondo alla pagina di
>> richiesta del grant: https://meta.wikimedia.
>> org/wiki/Grants:Conference/Tremej/itWikiCon2018#Endorsements
>>
>> Vi aggiornerò su tutti gli sviluppi futuri.
>>
>> Dario
>>
>> Il giorno 1 marzo 2018 17:17, Marco Minghini 
>> ha scritto:
>>
>>> Ciao Dario, e grazie per le info!
>>>
>>> L'anno scorso in programma c'era una sessione su OSM tenuta da Maurizio
 Napolitano (che ringrazio ancora) e sarebbe auspicabile avere qualcosa di
 ambito mapparo anche quest'anno. Magari una sessione sull'uso di JOSM,
 prevista l'anno scorso, ma poi trasformata in una panoramica base su OSM,
 visto che il pubblico aveva poca dimestichezza con lo strumento. Oppure
 qualcosa sull'integrazione di informazioni OSM/Wikimedia. O magari
 organizzare un mapping party (o simili) a Como in quell'occasione. Ma per
 parlare del programma c'è ancora tempo :-)

 Abitando a Como, mi rendo disponibile a coprire la parte di OSM secondo
>>> le necessità!
>>>
>>> Marco
>>>
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[OSM-talk] Report back - OSM and Gender discussion

[Heather Leson]

Thanks to everyone who participated in the recent OSM and Gender dialogue.

Here is our diary post summary -
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Heather%20Leson/diary/43458

Also, Happy International Women's Day. Thank you to all the women who map
and lead in OSM. You inspire me everyday.

Heather

Heather Leson
heatherle...@gmail.com
Twitter/skype: HeatherLeson
Blog: textontechs.com
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Re: [Talk-ca] Building Footprint Upload to OSM

[Matthew Darwin]

Rob,

One other thing to think about while others are discussing the 
licensing topic:  What is the quality of the buildings?  Has that been 
reviewed?


 * Are they in the right place?
 * Are they the right size?
 * Are they squared off (rectangles)
 * Are they aligned to each other and the road (not slightly mis-aligned)
 * Are they current (not buildings which have been torn down or
   otherwise changed)
 * If there are attributes like "height" in your dataset, is that
   accurate?
 * etc...

I've not worked much on buildings, but probably others could add 
comments about what are the criteria for "good buildings".



On 2018-03-06 11:05 AM, Rob Halko wrote:


Good morning,

The Region of Durham has recently purchased Building Footprints data 
for the entire Region, and it is available as Open Data: 
http://opendata.durham.ca/datasets/building-footprints


We would like to import these to Open Street Map to engage the 
community and help improve the overall map. We are supporters of OSM 
and wish to regularly partner in improving the data.


In particular, we are hosting a mapathon on March 29, which asks for 
student input to add attributes to the buildings based on OSM 
guidelines for the Building Canada 2020 project: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Canada/Building_Canada_2020#The_data_that_could_be_mapped


We have read your Import guidelines and are here to express our 
interest in contributing our building data. The intention is not to 
overwrite those buildings that the community has built, but bridge 
the gap to include the rest of the 200,000+ buildings in Durham 
(largely residential), which are missing from OSM.


Please let us know how we can contribute this valuable data on 
behalf of the community.






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Technology

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Re: [Talk-ca] Emergency Request for Tasking Manager Trainer

[Matthew Darwin]

[prune CC list so this gets posted to the list]

Hi Jonathan,

I'm probably missing something, but you don't link training videos 
from the tasking manager.   The tasking manager is about splitting up 
some pre-defined mapping jobs (eg trace outline of building from bing 
satellite image), into small chunks that people can finish in a short 
amount of time.  So people don't work on things other people are 
already working on.


If people are adding what they already know, then you don't need a 
tasking manager. People just go ahead and add it, if it is not already 
there (checking if it is already there is important so we don't get 
duplicate things).  Presumably beginners are only going to add one 
thing at a time in ID editor, and they're all in the same room, so 
scope for conflict is small (easily solved with everyone announcing 
what they are doing before starting it).


For your session later this month, it sounds to me like you want 
someone to


 * introduce the topic of mapping in OSM
 * introduce the ID editor
 * go through some samples of things to be added
 * then everybody get on their laptop and start trying to edit
   things, with the leader checking what is going on

(this is how my introductory session went last April when I joined a 
meetup group in Ottawa)


The task manager is not needed in this scenario.

But please correct me if I totally missed your point.

On 2018-03-07 08:55 AM, Jonathan Brown wrote:


We want to run the mapathon by setting up a task in the Tasking 
Manager with links to the OSMLearning video tutorials and use cases 
for the instruction section. We want to make the task as simple as 
possible (e.g., adding points of interest based on participants’ 
local knowledge augmented with information from social services and 
NGOs who will be participating).


The goal is to have the participants apply OSM morning training to a 
problem solving task in the afternoon, similar to what Sterling 
Quinn did for the Philly Fresh Food Mapathon: 
http://2017.phillytechweek.com/events/philly_mapathon


We would need to add tasks to the OSM Tasking Manager that encompass 
the school boards and schools within the geography to be mapped - 
Durham Region, Niagara Region, Northumberland County, and Greater 
Peterborough area. For March 29 the priority is for Durham Region 
and Northumberland County.


We are looking for a train-the-trainer model for 8-10 facilitators 
(teachers, senior secondary and postsecondary students) that can be 
repurposed for other mapathon events this spring and fall.


There will be a follow-up event in the early fall. We are exploring 
ways to build this type of mapathon event into the workflows of the 
educational and local planning structures and processes at the 
municipal and regional level. Alessandro and his colleagues at the 
TB Open Data branch are well aware of what we are trying to do.


Jonathan

*From: *Matthew Darwin 
*Sent: *Tuesday, March 6, 2018 9:06 PM
*To: *Jonathan Brown ; 
talk-ca@openstreetmap.org 

*Cc: *Brock Baker  
*Subject: *Re: [Talk-ca] Emergency Request for Tasking Manager Trainer

Hi Jonathan,

Are you trying to set up the tasking manager, or you just want to 
add a project to the existing tasking manager 
http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/? If you describe the details of what 
you're trying to accomplish (look at existing tasks), then someone 
can probably add a task for you.


Or do you want to know how to run a mapathon using the task manager?

Or?

A bit more details of what you're trying to do would be helpful...




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Re: [Talk-ca] Building Footprint Upload to OSM

[Stewart C. Russell]

On 2018-03-07 09:08 PM, Steve Singer wrote:
> 
> It is my understanding that the act of substitution is enough of a 
> change to require the LWG to need to look at it.

That's correct, Steve. I clarified the Ottawa import page a little:

> The OSMF Licensing Working Group determined in their meeting on
> 2017-03-02 that data under the Ottawa Open Data, Licence Version 2.0
> (Ottawa ODL 2.0) can be included in the OpenStreetMap dataset and
> distributed on ODbL 1.0 terms. Quoting from the draft minutes (draft
> link may not be generally readable):
> 
>> The LWG has determined [(1)] that the attribution requirements of the
>> Ottawa ODL 2.0 can be met by adding the required text to the wiki
>> contributor page and corresponding changeset source attribute values,
>> and that there is no downstream attribution requirement, [(2)] that
>> we are not using "Personal Information" as defined in the licence and
>> referenced legislation, and that so licensed material can be included
>> in the OpenStreetMap dataset and distributed on ODbL 1.0 terms. —
>> OSMF LWG draft minutes, 2017-03-02
> 
> Note: The LWG's acceptance of the Ottawa ODL 2.0 or the Canada Open
> Data Licence 2.0 does not mean that near-identical licences are also
> acceptable for OSM import. The draft minute goes on to say:
> 
>> In the past the local variants of the OGL Canada have varied widely
>> and have in some cases included additional terms that have made them
>> incompatible with the ODbL and in some instances non-open. For this
>> reason we are not making a blanket statement on other such localised
>> versions of the OGL at this point in time and will continue to review
>> them on a case by case base.
> 
> For example, if the fictional City of Rotonto took the exact text of
> the Ottawa ODL 2.0 and merely replaced instances of “Ottawa” with
> “Rotonto”, the above minute indicates that the Rotonto ODL would
> still need LWG approval.

I made a request to the LWG about this time last year about the Toronto
and Ontario licences, and they're still working on them.

There is another way around the issue: publish as CC-BY 4.0 (as some
Quebec municipalities have done) and supply OSM with one of these
waivers:
https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Waiver_and_Permission_Templates

cheers,
 Stewart

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Re: [Talk-es] [Catastro] 38032 El Rosario

[Iván Hernández Cazorla]

Mis enhorabuenas por la importación, tanto a ti, Javier, por la que has 
hecho, como por las que están realizando el resto de compañeros. La 
comparativa del antes y el después es asombrosa, sobre todo para La 
Esperanza.


¡Gran trabajo!

Saludos,
Iván

On 07/03/18 23:19, Javier Sánchez Portero wrote:

Hola

Propongo seguir el esquema del asunto del mensaje para mantenerlos 
agrupados, como hemos hecho hasta ahora, pero abreviar un poco.


La importación del municipio de El Rosario ya está completa. Se pueden 
ver imágenes del antes y el después aquí:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES:El_Rosario#Edificios%20y%20direcciones

Las tareas están preparadas para editar en otros dos municipios: 
Candelaria y Güímar.

http://tareas.openstreetmap.es/project/47

Saludos


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Re: [Talk-ca] Building Footprint Upload to OSM

[Steve Singer]

On Wed, 7 Mar 2018, john whelan wrote:


That one says federal government.  Somewhere they have a kit with the municipal 
version and that's the one you
want.  Exact license is the one the City of Ottawa uses just sub "City of 
Ottawa" with your city name.

Note to Tracey and or Kent could you be very nice and point Rob to the exact 
municipal Open Data license 2.0 that
TB drew up.


I do not see either the open-government-license-canada or the TB open 
data license, or a Canadian "municipal data license 2.0" listed at 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/ODbL_Compatibility


My understanding is that the "City of Ottawa Open Data License 2.0" received 
special approval from the LWG. 
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada:Ontario:Ottawa/Import/Plan#Licence)


It is also my understanding that substituting "City of Ottawa" with "Region 
of Durham" would still require the LWG to approve the Durham license.


It is my understanding that the act of substitution is enough of a change to 
require the LWG to need to look at it.


I don't see open-government-licence-canada listed as a compatible 
generic license on the wiki page.


If anyone is aware of something written from the LWG that says otherwise 
please post a link.


Steve




Many Thanks John

On 7 March 2018 at 13:24, Rob Halko  wrote:

  Thanks for your help John,

   

  Is this the license we should be looking at adopting:
  https://open.canada.ca/en/open-government-licence-canada?

   

  Rob

   

  From: john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 9:22 PM
  To: Rob Halko 
  Cc: impo...@openstreetmap.org; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org; Jonathan Brown 
; Alasia,
  Alessandro (STATCAN) 
  Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Building Footprint Upload to OSM

   

  I was involved in getting the Ottawa Open Data building outlines into OSM 
working with Stats Canada. 
  Based on that experience you need to go through some steps..


Step one concerns the license.  Regional Municipality of Durham open data 
license almost certainly has not
been approved by the LWG.  The choices are formally adopt the Treasury Board 
license for Open Data as Ottawa
has done or ask Alessandro nicely about whether Stats Can can make it available 
through the TB open data
portal.  The third choice would be submit it to the LWG.  The backlog is 
substantial and I'd expect at least
at year, possibly two before gaining approval if they thought it was perfect.

The data can also be formally given to OpenStreetMap, ie supplied but not under 
your Open data license.  I
understand Vancouver followed this route.

 

One the license is sorted out then there is a further process to follow and 
that would be tight for March
29th.

I suggest sorting out the license first.

Cheerio John

 

On 6 March 2018 at 11:05, Rob Halko  wrote:

  Good morning,

   

  The Region of Durham has recently purchased Building Footprints data for 
the entire Region, and
  it is available as Open Data: 
http://opendata.durham.ca/datasets/building-footprints

   

  We would like to import these to Open Street Map to engage the community 
and help improve the
  overall map. We are supporters of OSM and wish to regularly partner in 
improving the data.

   

  In particular, we are hosting a mapathon on March 29, which asks for 
student input to add
  attributes to the buildings based on OSM guidelines for the Building 
Canada 2020 project:
  
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Canada/Building_Canada_2020#The_data_that_could_be_mapped

   

  We have read your Import guidelines and are here to express our interest 
in contributing our
  building data. The intention is not to overwrite those buildings that the 
community has built,
  but bridge the gap to include the rest of the 200,000+ buildings in 
Durham (largely
  residential), which are missing from OSM.

   

  Please let us know how we can contribute this valuable data on behalf of 
the community.

   

  [IMAGE]

  Rob Halko | Supervisor, GIS
  Regional Municipality of Durham | Corporate Services - Information 
Technology
  905-668-4113 ext 2189 | Mobile: 289-927-7168
  Corporate Values: • Ethical Leadership • Accountability • Service 
Excellence • Continuous
  Learning and Improvement • Inclusion

   

   

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Re: [Talk-it] Mappatura centro storico

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

sent from a phone

> On 7. Mar 2018, at 12:23, Ivo Reano  wrote:
> 
> Posso caricare GPX multitraccia?


penso di sì 


> Ovviamente la descrizione diventa inutile anche se posso raccogliere le 
> tracce per zone ristrette.
> 
> Il problema grosso è che le mie tracce sono archiviate con QMapShack. Posso 
> estrarre anche una traccia per volta, ma ci metterei una vita!


credo che ci sia un API per caricare le tracce in OSM

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[Talk-GB] unwanted advertising in OSM in the UK

[Frederik Ramm]

Hi,

I've identified around 60 locations in the UK that sound very much like
advertising in the "description" tag.

I haven't inspected them, but more often than not such POIs don't only
sport marketing copy in the description tag, they also tend to lack the
usual shop/amenity/whatever tags that tell you what this is supposed to be.

If someone is interested in having a look:

http://www.remote.org/frederik/tmp/seo-uk.txt

or as a .osm file

http://www.remote.org/frederik/tmp/seo-uk.osm

(note if you want to use that in JOSM you should do "update data" first
in case someone else has already dealt with some)

These likely aren't the only "spam POIs" but they're the most obvious.
Some of them are close calls, where the description only has a list of
services, or where the advertiser is a non-profit or even an over-eager
mapper copying from a sign. Hence I'd rather see UK mappers have a look
and decide what of this is worth keeping, than deciding it from the
comfort of my armchair.

Bye
Frederik

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Re: [Talk-cz] 3D mapa v OSM - pěkná hračka - dejte zoom

[Pavel Machek]

On Tue 2018-03-06 11:33:37, jo...@razdva.cz wrote:
> Placatou zemi s krychlickama do leteckeho simulatoru? Nebo mi neco
> uslo?

No jasne ze nejaka vyskova data to chce. Nastesti letadla casto
litaj vysoko, a krychlicky z dalky tak moc nevadej.

Mam tu flightgear, myslim ze osm data nejak pouziva (i kdyz tam svet
rozhodne nevypada tak hezky jako na zminovanejch webovejch demech).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNv3xV5xxEM

Pavel

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[Talk-es] [Catastro] 38032 El Rosario

[Javier Sánchez Portero]

Hola

Propongo seguir el esquema del asunto del mensaje para mantenerlos
agrupados, como hemos hecho hasta ahora, pero abreviar un poco.

La importación del municipio de El Rosario ya está completa. Se pueden ver
imágenes del antes y el después aquí:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES:El_Rosario#Edificios%20y%20direcciones

Las tareas están preparadas para editar en otros dos municipios: Candelaria
y Güímar.
http://tareas.openstreetmap.es/project/47

Saludos
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] BDOrtho IGN par défaut dans iD!

[deuzeffe]

Le 07/03/2018 à 20:19, osm.sanspourr...@spamgourmet.com a écrit :
Bien mais comme disait Florian si c'était à fond transparent on pourrait 
s'en servir comme surcouche.


Dans le fond personnalisé, devenu tout vide vu la promotion de la 
BDOrtho IGN, on peut aussi mettre 
http://tms.cadastre.openstreetmap.fr/*/tout/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png pour 
patienter d'ici la prochaine màj d'iD.


D'après le bien connu motivé soi-même.

HTH.
--
deuzeffe


Si un Luxembourgeois motivé peut le faire...
La nationalité n'est pas une condition nécessaire ;-)
Jean-Yvon

Le 07/03/2018 à 13:36, Guillaume Rischard - openstreet...@stereo.lu a 
écrit :

On 7 Mar 2018, at 00:46, Florian_G  wrote:

Le 07/03/2018 à 00:22, Christian Rogel a écrit :

C’est sûr que la BD ortho est géniale, mais, cela se paie de la disparition du 
cadastre dans la liste des couches par défaut.
Un moyen de le retrouver ?


Il est toujours là mais relocalisé dans « Calques » en-dessous de « Fond de 
carte » (par contre, ça aurait été bien si le blanc devenait transparent, comme 
pour le Cadastre luxembourgeois) :

C’était d'ailleurs une erreur de la part de ce luxembourgeois trop motivé :). 
C’est corrigé surhttps://github.com/osmlab/editor-layer-index/commit/7767834a  
et ça sera repris dans la prochaine version d’iD, qui retrouvera donc la couche 
Cadastre dans les fonds de carte comme avant. Au passage, la couche Route 500 
passera dans les calques.

Guillaume
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[Talk-GB] OpenCage Data join OSM UK

[Rob Nickerson]

Hi all,

Just a quick email to welcome OpenCage Data Ltd on board as a corporate
member of OSM UK.

Associated blog post:
https://osmuk.org/uncategorized/opencage-data-join-as-a-corporate-member/

Best regards,
*Rob*
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[Talk-it] A proposito di scostamento

[aldoct]

Trovandomi a mappare nella zona di Baucina, ho notato che chi ha mappato lo
ha fatto utilizzando BING. Visualizzando il paese con i WMS del PCN si nota
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[OSM-talk] International Women's Day

[Rebecca Firth]

Hi,

International Women's Day is tomorrow. Supporting gender equality and
ensuring a safe and respectful environment for all contributors is one of
HOT's main objectives. This blog shares 7 different ways you can help to
support gender equality in OpenStreetMap this International Women's Day:
https://www.hotosm.org/updates/2018-03-07_international_women%E2%80%99s_
day_2018_pressforprogress

If you're working on a project to encourage gender inclusion in OSM, feel
free to email me and i'll add it in.

Thanks,

Rebecca

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You can #mapthedifference today! Donate.hotosm.org

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] BDOrtho IGN par défaut dans iD!

[osm . sanspourriel]

Bien mais comme disait Florian si c'était à fond transparent on pourrait 
s'en servir comme surcouche.


Si un Luxembourgeois motivé peut le faire...
La nationalité n'est pas une condition nécessaire ;-)
Jean-Yvon

Le 07/03/2018 à 13:36, Guillaume Rischard - openstreet...@stereo.lu a 
écrit :

On 7 Mar 2018, at 00:46, Florian_G  wrote:

Le 07/03/2018 à 00:22, Christian Rogel a écrit :

C’est sûr que la BD ortho est géniale, mais, cela se paie de la disparition du 
cadastre dans la liste des couches par défaut.
Un moyen de le retrouver ?


Il est toujours là mais relocalisé dans « Calques » en-dessous de « Fond de 
carte » (par contre, ça aurait été bien si le blanc devenait transparent, comme 
pour le Cadastre luxembourgeois) :

C’était d'ailleurs une erreur de la part de ce luxembourgeois trop motivé :). 
C’est corrigé sur https://github.com/osmlab/editor-layer-index/commit/7767834a 
et ça sera repris dans la prochaine version d’iD, qui retrouvera donc la couche 
Cadastre dans les fonds de carte comme avant. Au passage, la couche Route 500 
passera dans les calques.

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Erreur 403 sur la bd ortho IGN, depuis josm et Id

[marc marc]

Le 07. 03. 18 à 19:48, Vincent Bergeot a écrit :
> suis-je le seul avec ce message : erreur http 
> 403 lors du chargement des tuiles ?

si on charge la tuile dans le navigateur, on a le détail
"Wrong referer or wrong IP Adress or wrong User-Agent"

Je pense que c'est un problème de conf sur proxy-ign
qui ne prend plus en compte le token comme il devrait.
transmis sur tech@ car mon accès sur proxy-ign ne fonctionne pas.
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Re: [Talk-ca] Building Footprint Upload to OSM

[john whelan]

That one says federal government.  Somewhere they have a kit with the
municipal version and that's the one you want.  Exact license is the one
the City of Ottawa uses just sub "City of Ottawa" with your city name.

Note to Tracey and or Kent could you be very nice and point Rob to the
exact municipal Open Data license 2.0 that TB drew up.

Many Thanks John

On 7 March 2018 at 13:24, Rob Halko  wrote:

> Thanks for your help John,
>
>
>
> Is this the license we should be looking at adopting:
> https://open.canada.ca/en/open-government-licence-canada?
>
>
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> *From:* john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 06, 2018 9:22 PM
> *To:* Rob Halko 
> *Cc:* impo...@openstreetmap.org; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org; Jonathan
> Brown ; Alasia, Alessandro (STATCAN) <
> alessandro.ala...@canada.ca>
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] Building Footprint Upload to OSM
>
>
>
> I was involved in getting the Ottawa Open Data building outlines into OSM
> working with Stats Canada.  Based on that experience you need to go through
> some steps..
>
>
> Step one concerns the license.  Regional Municipality of Durham open data
> license almost certainly has not been approved by the LWG.  The choices are
> formally adopt the Treasury Board license for Open Data as Ottawa has done
> or ask Alessandro nicely about whether Stats Can can make it available
> through the TB open data portal.  The third choice would be submit it to
> the LWG.  The backlog is substantial and I'd expect at least at year,
> possibly two before gaining approval if they thought it was perfect.
>
> The data can also be formally given to OpenStreetMap, ie supplied but not
> under your Open data license.  I understand Vancouver followed this route.
>
>
>
> One the license is sorted out then there is a further process to follow
> and that would be tight for March 29th.
>
> I suggest sorting out the license first.
>
> Cheerio John
>
>
>
> On 6 March 2018 at 11:05, Rob Halko  wrote:
>
> Good morning,
>
>
>
> The Region of Durham has recently purchased Building Footprints data for
> the entire Region, and it is available as Open Data:
> http://opendata.durham.ca/datasets/building-footprints
>
>
>
> We would like to import these to Open Street Map to engage the community
> and help improve the overall map. We are supporters of OSM and wish to
> regularly partner in improving the data.
>
>
>
> In particular, we are hosting a mapathon on March 29, which asks for
> student input to add attributes to the buildings based on OSM guidelines
> for the Building Canada 2020 project: https://wiki.openstreetmap.
> org/wiki/WikiProject_Canada/Building_Canada_2020#The_data_
> that_could_be_mapped
>
>
>
> We have read your Import guidelines and are here to express our interest
> in contributing our building data. The intention is not to overwrite those
> buildings that the community has built, but bridge the gap to include the
> rest of the 200,000+ buildings in Durham (largely residential), which are
> missing from OSM.
>
>
>
> Please let us know how we can contribute this valuable data on behalf of
> the community.
>
>
>
> 
>
> *Rob Halko | Supervisor, GIS*
> Regional Municipality of Durham | Corporate Services - Information
> Technology
> 905-668-4113 ext 2189 <(905)%20668-4113> | Mobile: 289-927-7168
> <(289)%20927-7168>
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[OSM-talk-fr] Erreur 403 sur la bd ortho IGN, depuis josm et Id

[Vincent Bergeot]

Bonjour,

tout est dans le titre, suis-je le seul avec ce message : erreur http 
403 lors du chargement des tuiles ? dans JOSM


écran gris dans Id et rien dans MapContrib.

Cela fonctionne dans Umap.

Je ne sais pas quoi faire d'autre comme test !

A-t-on eu trop de connexion avec Id ?

à plus

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Re: [Talk-ca] Building Footprint Upload to OSM

[Rob Halko]

Thanks for your help John,

Is this the license we should be looking at adopting: 
https://open.canada.ca/en/open-government-licence-canada?

Rob

From: john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 9:22 PM
To: Rob Halko 
Cc: impo...@openstreetmap.org; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org; Jonathan Brown 
; Alasia, Alessandro (STATCAN) 
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Building Footprint Upload to OSM

I was involved in getting the Ottawa Open Data building outlines into OSM 
working with Stats Canada.  Based on that experience you need to go through 
some steps..

Step one concerns the license.  Regional Municipality of Durham open data 
license almost certainly has not been approved by the LWG.  The choices are 
formally adopt the Treasury Board license for Open Data as Ottawa has done or 
ask Alessandro nicely about whether Stats Can can make it available through the 
TB open data portal.  The third choice would be submit it to the LWG.  The 
backlog is substantial and I'd expect at least at year, possibly two before 
gaining approval if they thought it was perfect.
The data can also be formally given to OpenStreetMap, ie supplied but not under 
your Open data license.  I understand Vancouver followed this route.

One the license is sorted out then there is a further process to follow and 
that would be tight for March 29th.
I suggest sorting out the license first.
Cheerio John

On 6 March 2018 at 11:05, Rob Halko 
> wrote:
Good morning,

The Region of Durham has recently purchased Building Footprints data for the 
entire Region, and it is available as Open Data: 
http://opendata.durham.ca/datasets/building-footprints

We would like to import these to Open Street Map to engage the community and 
help improve the overall map. We are supporters of OSM and wish to regularly 
partner in improving the data.

In particular, we are hosting a mapathon on March 29, which asks for student 
input to add attributes to the buildings based on OSM guidelines for the 
Building Canada 2020 project: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Canada/Building_Canada_2020#The_data_that_could_be_mapped

We have read your Import guidelines and are here to express our interest in 
contributing our building data. The intention is not to overwrite those 
buildings that the community has built, but bridge the gap to include the rest 
of the 200,000+ buildings in Durham (largely residential), which are missing 
from OSM.

Please let us know how we can contribute this valuable data on behalf of the 
community.

[cid:image001.png@01D3B617.95A5CB10]

Rob Halko | Supervisor, GIS
Regional Municipality of Durham | Corporate Services - Information Technology
905-668-4113 ext 2189 | Mobile: 
289-927-7168
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Continuous Learning and Improvement • Inclusion



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Re: [OSM-talk] Power Lines and topological error detection

[Pierre Béland]

Using Roland Overpass query, we can search easily in JOSM witha query for 
simultaenous childs of  1. way with power:line tag and 2. way with no 
power:line tag
child(type:way & power:line) & child(type:way & -power:line)
Then with the Todo plugin, we can revise each individual point and unclip from 
the electric network.

 
Pierre 
 

François Lacombe wrote:
Hi all,Osmose-QA also display such bad connection between power lines and non
power features
http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/fr/error/16446522057 (item 7040 class 4)

We also have this issue related to unterminated lines like this occurence
(7040 class 2) :
http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/fr/error/16430655499
https://github.com/osm-fr/osmose-backend/issues/229

It causes a lot of false positive alerts because occuring on T connections
(not only for power lines)
No offense intended towards devs who do a lot of good work anyway :)

All the best

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Re: [OSM-talk] Power Lines and topological error detection

[François Lacombe]

Hi all,

Osmose-QA also display such bad connection between power lines and non
power features
http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/fr/error/16446522057 (item 7040 class 4)

We also have this issue related to unterminated lines like this occurence
(7040 class 2) :
http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/fr/error/16430655499
https://github.com/osm-fr/osmose-backend/issues/229

It causes a lot of false positive alerts because occuring on T connections
(not only for power lines)
No offense intended towards devs who do a lot of good work anyway :)

All the best

François

2018-03-07 5:30 GMT+01:00 Roland Olbricht :

> Hi,
>
> > Various topological errors related to power lines are not detected by
> > OSM editors. Monitoring the High Voltage power network for Quebec I
> > often find nodes connecting crossing waterbody, highways, landuse to the
> > power lines.
>
> FWIW, you can find them with a query like
> https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/wLQ
>
> If you want to only get highways, there is still enough to do:
> https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/wLR
>
> For practical work in JOSM, you can get power lines and the connected
> objects: paste
>
> way[power=line]({{bbox}});
> node(w);
> way(bn);
> (._;>;);
> out meta;
>
> and choose a meaningful bounding box. Please do not do other things than
> disconnecting, because you cannot see to what the other objects are
> connected. But for disconnecting, this should be fine.
>
> Cheers,
> Roland
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[OSM-talk-fr] State of the Map France : appel à propositions !

[Vincent de Château-Thierry]

Bonjour,

la 6è (sixième !) conférence annuelle organisée par OpenStreetMap France se 
déroulera du 1 au 3 juin à Pessac (33), sur le campus de l'Université 
Bordeaux-Montaigne.
Cette conférence est ce que nous en faisons mais aussi et surtout ce que vous 
en faites ! Ce sont en effet vos propositions qui vont permettre de construire 
le programme de ces 3 jours.

Petite idée ou grande révolution, solutions simples ou problèmes récurrents, 
projets ou action ponctuelle ? N'hésitez pas à faire des propositions 
d'intervention en 5', 25', 55' voire en atelier de 2 heures ! Les posters sont 
aussi les bienvenus.

Pour détailler vos propositions rendez-vous ici : 
https://framaforms.org/proposition-dintervention-au-sotm-france-2018-1517936730

Et si vous ne savez pas quoi proposer, vous pouvez aussi suggérer ce que vous 
aimeriez suivre comme conférences. N'hésitez pas à proposer des thèmes : la 
seule condition est qu'on y parle d'OpenStreetMap !

Pour ces suggestions ou toute autre question, une seule adresse : sotm [at] 
openstreetmap.fr

merci et à bientôt à Pessac,
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Re: [OSM-talk] Power Lines and topological error detection

[Pierre Béland]

thanks Roland, this extract provides a lot of objects (highway, water, natural, 
landuse, etc.) that were clipped to power lines. We could even add low voltage 
power lines that are clipped to high voltage power lines.

I will play with JOSM Search to isolate the nodes that need to be unclipped.
 
Pierre 
 

Le mardi 6 mars 2018 23:30:50 HNE, Roland Olbricht  
a écrit :  
 
 Hi,

 > Various topological errors related to power lines are not detected by
 > OSM editors. Monitoring the High Voltage power network for Quebec I
 > often find nodes connecting crossing waterbody, highways, landuse to the
 > power lines.

FWIW, you can find them with a query like
https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/wLQ

If you want to only get highways, there is still enough to do:
https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/wLR

For practical work in JOSM, you can get power lines and the connected 
objects: paste

way[power=line]({{bbox}});
node(w);
way(bn);
(._;>;);
out meta;

and choose a meaningful bounding box. Please do not do other things than 
disconnecting, because you cannot see to what the other objects are 
connected. But for disconnecting, this should be fine.

Cheers,
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Re: [OSM-talk] Donation from the Pineapple Fund

[Steve Doerr]

On 05/03/2018 12:39, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 8:21 PM, Dave F > wrote:



was it converted into hard currency?



all of the donated bitcoins should have already been converted to 
British pounds:


That'll be a 'no' then.

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Re: [Talk-it] Svincoli e maxspeed

[Max1234Ita]

cascafico wrote
> Il giorno 7 marzo 2018 11:43, Simone Saviolo 

> simone.saviolo@

>  ha
> scritto:
> 
>>
>> La maxspeed, in assenza di segnalazione, è la stessa della strada
>> principale. Ovviamente, la reale velocità di percorrenza è molto
>> inferiore,
>> per via della geometria della strada - ma questo non possiamo indicarlo,
>> e
>> un navigatore potrebbe solo stimarlo.
>>
> 
> Perl'appunto: il navigatore potrebbe valutare il suffisso "_link" così
> almeno sarebbe utile.


Salvo il fatto che il navigatore deve poter funzionare in qualunque Paese
del mondo e purtroppo ognuno ha i suoi limiti e le sue specifiche... da cui
il fatto che il tag maxspeed non è implicito sulle rampe.

Per quale motivo, poi, certi navigatori (OsmAnd, almeno fino a qualche tempo
fa) preferiscano farti imboccare una rampa d'uscita e rientrare sulla
successiva, rimane un mistero... ma forse ha (aveva) qualcosa a che fare con
un bug del software.


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Re: [Talk-cz] Domena osm.cz

[Jan Macura]



H.

2018-03-07 12:31 GMT+01:00 Tom Ka :

> Ahoj,
>
> jen info, zkusil jsem brnknout majitely domeny osm.cz, jestli by se ji
> nevzdal - kdyz se podivate na webovy obsah, vypada dost nevyuzite :-)
> Bohuzel pan o ni stoji a nehodla se ji zbavit ale aspon s nim byla rozumna
> rec.
>
> Mejte se
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] BDOrtho IGN par défaut dans iD!

[Guillaume Rischard]

> On 7 Mar 2018, at 00:46, Florian_G  wrote:
> 
> Le 07/03/2018 à 00:22, Christian Rogel a écrit :
>> C’est sûr que la BD ortho est géniale, mais, cela se paie de la disparition 
>> du cadastre dans la liste des couches par défaut.
>> Un moyen de le retrouver ?
>> 
> Il est toujours là mais relocalisé dans « Calques » en-dessous de « Fond de 
> carte » (par contre, ça aurait été bien si le blanc devenait transparent, 
> comme pour le Cadastre luxembourgeois) :

C’était d'ailleurs une erreur de la part de ce luxembourgeois trop motivé :). 
C’est corrigé sur https://github.com/osmlab/editor-layer-index/commit/7767834a 
et ça sera repris dans la prochaine version d’iD, qui retrouvera donc la couche 
Cadastre dans les fonds de carte comme avant. Au passage, la couche Route 500 
passera dans les calques.

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [osm-fr CA] Villes et terres Agricoles

[Magalie Dartus]

https://www.vertlejardin.fr/spip.php?rubrique34

http://amapreseau-mp.org/trouver-une-amap (on parle ici de la production de
terres fertiles amenée en ville)

et sur smartphone : "sauvage de ma rue"


C'est vrai que la recherche n'est pas très fructueuse...
Bonne journée

Le 7 mars 2018 à 12:09, Vincent Bergeot  a écrit :

> Bonjour,
>
> je suis invité à un forum des métiers pour présenter OSM à l'université
> Bordeaux-Montaigne (si si le lieu du sotm-fr).
>
> Présenter OSM et tout, ça cela va ! Cependant la thématique du forum étant
> "Villes et terres fertiles", auriez vous quelques idées de projets qui ont
> été réalisés avec de la donnée OSM ?
>
> J'ai un peu en idée, les jardins partagés, les friches, ferme urbaine,
> jardins ouvriers, les vignes  Mais pas beaucoup d'exemples !
>
> à votre bon coeur mesdames et messieurs !
>
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Re: [Talk-es] Artículo: Why OpenStreetMap is in serious trouble

[joost schouppe]

La OSMF es una democracia; se puede cambiar el consenso de este nucleo
participando en ello.
Como candidato para el board, tambien tenia una nivel de ambicion con OSMF
mas alto de lo que deberia hacer OSMF, aun que no tan alto como tu dices,
David.
Pero Heather (quien si ha sido elegida), comparte este ambicion de ir mas
allá de lo que OSMF hace ahora. Necesitamos mas voces y votos ambiciosos si
queremos hacer esto.

2018-03-07 13:01 GMT+01:00 David Marín Carreño :

> Mi opinión: yo estoy de acuerdo al 100%.
>
> La comparativa con Wikipedia es sangrante para OSM. Wikipedia ha
> conseguido monopolizar el sector de las enciclopedias porque, además de
> proporcionar una base de datos, ha proporcionado las herramientas para que
> esta base de datos enciclopédica se use en todos los lugares donde hace
> falta. Y, gracias a ello, no le faltan recursos, trabajadores a tiempo
> completo, servidores, etc.
>
> Está claro que el corazón de OSM es la base de datos. Pero desarrollar y
> mantener el software para explotarla, y contar con la mejor infraestructura
> para soportarla también debiera ser un objetivo del proyecto, EMHO.
>
> En lugar de plantear soluciones a los problemas existentes reales (como,
> por ejemplo, la falta de capas, los IDs no permanentes, la inexistencia de
> elementos área, la complejidad provocada por la completa simplicidad de la
> base de datos...), parece que vamos a mantener la base de datos existente
> por los siglos de los siglos... Tenemos una base de datos tan genérica en
> la que cabe todo. Pero por culpa de esto es muy complicado explotar según
> qué cosas.
>
> Luego, parece haber interés en que OSM nunca pase de ser más que la base
> de datos de información geográfica, y no llegue a ser competencia a los
> distintos servicios de mapas existentes. Me encantaría usar un Waze basado
> en OSM, una base de datos abierta de información de tráfico en tiempo real.
> O de rutas de autobuses, con tiempos de espera. Vamos, que en lugar de usar
> mapas de Google, con los problemas de datos cerrados y de privacidad que
> esto conlleva, pudiera usar un servicio realizado con fuentes abiertas y
> con datos abiertos.
>
> Si la OSMF iniciara (o apoyara) iniciativas para llevar a cabo estos
> proyectos (que serían paralelos al de la base de datos de OSM que conocemos
> hoy en día, pero complementarios y basados en ella), quizá el momentum
> inicial sería lo suficientemente grande para que dichos proyectos pudieran
> contar con alguna probabilidad de éxito y hacer competencia a los servicios
> existentes, de carácter cerrado.
>
> La falta de ambición del núcleo de la OSMF quizá sea un freno para el
> proyecto, y bajo mi punto de vista es contraproducente al objetivo de tener
> una base de datos geográfica del mundo abierta.  Si no se intenta hacer que
> OSM sea el servicio de mapas más usado, su base de datos nunca será la
> mejor ni la más completa.
>
> Un cordial saludo,
> --
> David Marín Carreño
>
>
>
>
>
>
> El sáb., 3 mar. 2018 a las 22:44, Manuel Lladosa ()
> escribió:
>
>> https://blog.emacsen.net/blog/2018/02/16/osm-is-in-trouble/
>>
>> ¿Que opináis de este artículo? En algunas cosas no estoy de acuerdo,
>> pienso que OpenStreetMap no es un producto comercial, tal vez algunas
>> cosas podrían mejorar, es cierto que en Nominatim a veces tengo que
>> hacer búsquedas de distintas formas hasta que encuentro lo que busco,
>> otras páginas de mapas tienen mejores buscadores, pero es que el
>> objetivo de OpenStreetMap no es satisfacer las necesidades de clientes,
>> sino generar un mapa del mundo abierto.
>>
>> Aunque en otras cosas si que estoy de acuerdo, las importaciones son
>> difíciles y es bastante complicado combatir el vandalismo.
>>
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Re: [Talk-it] Svincoli e maxspeed

[Simone Saviolo]

Il giorno 7 marzo 2018 12:12, Cascafico Giovanni  ha
scritto:

> Il giorno 7 marzo 2018 11:43, Simone Saviolo 
> ha scritto:
>
>>
>> La maxspeed, in assenza di segnalazione, è la stessa della strada
>> principale. Ovviamente, la reale velocità di percorrenza è molto inferiore,
>> per via della geometria della strada - ma questo non possiamo indicarlo, e
>> un navigatore potrebbe solo stimarlo.
>>
>
> Perl'appunto: il navigatore potrebbe valutare il suffisso "_link" così
> almeno sarebbe utile.
>

Utile a cosa? Che io sappia, non c'è un limite di velocità imposto dal CdS
nelle rampe di accelerazione/decelerazione. Alcune sono a 40 [1], altre a
50 [2], altre non hanno segnali (e quindi sono a 90, 110, 130 a seconda
della strada) [3].

Il suffisso "_link" segnala che quei tratti sono svincoli, ma a parte
questo non può indicare nient'altro.

Ciao,

Simone

[1]
https://www.google.it/maps/@45.1759019,8.3346287,3a,75y,150.86h,78.32t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXq5VMtAVlRVQs2lKHcWUfg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=it
[2]
https://www.google.it/maps/@45.289765,8.3916248,3a,75y,314.64h,94.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5nMNp-KAR2N2z2QyRMVLaA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=it
[3]
https://www.google.it/maps/@45.5542468,8.168143,3a,75y,220.77h,86.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbfxXmiQNMZ5j12OGeE911Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=it
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Re: [Talk-es] Artículo: Why OpenStreetMap is in serious trouble

[David Marín Carreño]

Mi opinión: yo estoy de acuerdo al 100%.

La comparativa con Wikipedia es sangrante para OSM. Wikipedia ha conseguido
monopolizar el sector de las enciclopedias porque, además de proporcionar
una base de datos, ha proporcionado las herramientas para que esta base de
datos enciclopédica se use en todos los lugares donde hace falta. Y,
gracias a ello, no le faltan recursos, trabajadores a tiempo completo,
servidores, etc.

Está claro que el corazón de OSM es la base de datos. Pero desarrollar y
mantener el software para explotarla, y contar con la mejor infraestructura
para soportarla también debiera ser un objetivo del proyecto, EMHO.

En lugar de plantear soluciones a los problemas existentes reales (como,
por ejemplo, la falta de capas, los IDs no permanentes, la inexistencia de
elementos área, la complejidad provocada por la completa simplicidad de la
base de datos...), parece que vamos a mantener la base de datos existente
por los siglos de los siglos... Tenemos una base de datos tan genérica en
la que cabe todo. Pero por culpa de esto es muy complicado explotar según
qué cosas.

Luego, parece haber interés en que OSM nunca pase de ser más que la base de
datos de información geográfica, y no llegue a ser competencia a los
distintos servicios de mapas existentes. Me encantaría usar un Waze basado
en OSM, una base de datos abierta de información de tráfico en tiempo real.
O de rutas de autobuses, con tiempos de espera. Vamos, que en lugar de usar
mapas de Google, con los problemas de datos cerrados y de privacidad que
esto conlleva, pudiera usar un servicio realizado con fuentes abiertas y
con datos abiertos.

Si la OSMF iniciara (o apoyara) iniciativas para llevar a cabo estos
proyectos (que serían paralelos al de la base de datos de OSM que conocemos
hoy en día, pero complementarios y basados en ella), quizá el momentum
inicial sería lo suficientemente grande para que dichos proyectos pudieran
contar con alguna probabilidad de éxito y hacer competencia a los servicios
existentes, de carácter cerrado.

La falta de ambición del núcleo de la OSMF quizá sea un freno para el
proyecto, y bajo mi punto de vista es contraproducente al objetivo de tener
una base de datos geográfica del mundo abierta.  Si no se intenta hacer que
OSM sea el servicio de mapas más usado, su base de datos nunca será la
mejor ni la más completa.

Un cordial saludo,
--
David Marín Carreño






El sáb., 3 mar. 2018 a las 22:44, Manuel Lladosa ()
escribió:

> https://blog.emacsen.net/blog/2018/02/16/osm-is-in-trouble/
>
> ¿Que opináis de este artículo? En algunas cosas no estoy de acuerdo,
> pienso que OpenStreetMap no es un producto comercial, tal vez algunas
> cosas podrían mejorar, es cierto que en Nominatim a veces tengo que
> hacer búsquedas de distintas formas hasta que encuentro lo que busco,
> otras páginas de mapas tienen mejores buscadores, pero es que el
> objetivo de OpenStreetMap no es satisfacer las necesidades de clientes,
> sino generar un mapa del mundo abierto.
>
> Aunque en otras cosas si que estoy de acuerdo, las importaciones son
> difíciles y es bastante complicado combatir el vandalismo.
>
>
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Re: [Talk-cz] Kvartální pivo v Ostravě

[Marián Kyral]

Ahoj,
protože se nikdo další neozval, Ostrava se definitivně ruší a pivko se
přesouvá do Frýdku-Místku.
Restaurace Jiný svět od 18:00

Marián

-- Původní e-mail --
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Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org
Datum: 6. 3. 2018 19:30:29
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Kvartální pivo v Ostravě 
"

Ahoj,
za Ostravu jsme zatím stále jen dva. Pokud se nikdo další nepřidá, Ostrava
se ruší a bude Frýdek-Místek ;-)

Marián.

Dne 5.3.2018 v 09:02 Zbyněk Datinský napsal(a):

"
ahoj. já se musím omluvit, budu mimo ČR. příště





  

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Komu talk-cz@openstreetmap.org(mailto:talk-cz@openstreetmap.org)

Kopie

Datum Thu, 01 Mar 2018 10:57:57 +0100 (CET)

Předmět [Talk-cz] Kvartální pivo v Ostravě

Ahoj,
někdo z Ostravy nebo okolí Ostravy kdo by měl zájem skočit na pivko a
probrat věci kolem OSM? Zatím jsme dva a chtělo by to ještě pár lidí. Vítán
je každý. Matador nebo nováček, společná témata se jistě najdou.

Marián








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[Talk-lt] Kas ir kur žymi Lietuvoje?

[Tomas Straupis]

Sveiki

  Neįpareigojantis žemėlapis, rodantis kur koks žymėtojas daugiausia
yra prižymėjęs :-)
  https://blog.openmap.lt/2018/03/07/zymetojai-2018-03/

  Džiugu, kad sąrašas gan ilgas!

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[Talk-cz] Kvartalni pivo Brno

[Tom Ka]

Ahoj,

jen pro jistotu - jako obvykle U Kormidla, 18:00.

Bye

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[Talk-cz] Domena osm.cz

[Tom Ka]

Ahoj,

jen info, zkusil jsem brnknout majitely domeny osm.cz, jestli by se ji
nevzdal - kdyz se podivate na webovy obsah, vypada dost nevyuzite :-)
Bohuzel pan o ni stoji a nehodla se ji zbavit ale aspon s nim byla rozumna rec.

Mejte se

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Re: [Talk-it] Mappatura centro storico

[Ivo Reano]

>
> Mi dici un metodo veloce?
>>
>
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/trace/create
> ovviamente descrizione ed etichette aggiungerebbero valore :-)
>
> 
>

Non avevo chiesto un metodo veloce?
Con quello si carica una traccia per volta!

Posso caricare GPX multitraccia? Ovviamente la descrizione diventa inutile
anche se posso raccogliere le tracce per zone ristrette.

Il problema grosso è che le mie tracce sono archiviate con QMapShack. Posso
estrarre anche una traccia per volta, ma ci metterei una vita!
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Re: [Talk-it] Svincoli e maxspeed

[Cascafico Giovanni]

Il giorno 7 marzo 2018 11:43, Simone Saviolo  ha
scritto:

>
> La maxspeed, in assenza di segnalazione, è la stessa della strada
> principale. Ovviamente, la reale velocità di percorrenza è molto inferiore,
> per via della geometria della strada - ma questo non possiamo indicarlo, e
> un navigatore potrebbe solo stimarlo.
>

Perl'appunto: il navigatore potrebbe valutare il suffisso "_link" così
almeno sarebbe utile.



> Semi OT: ho trovato una sentenza interessante che dava ragione ad un
>> automobilita multato per andare a 60Kmh dopo un'intersezione segnalata a
>> max 50Kmh. Ne deduco che in mancanza di altre segnalazioni, uscendo
>> dall'intersezione si ripristina il limite standard per quella strada.
>>
>
> Il CdS stabilisce che le intersezioni annullano ogni divieto, che va
> pertanto ripetuto.
>
> +1
quindi se il divieto non viene ripetuto, rimane la velocità per classe di
strada (130, 110, 90, 50)
http://goo.gl/rtouJt
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[OSM-talk-fr] [osm-fr CA] Villes et terres Agricoles

[Vincent Bergeot]

Bonjour,

je suis invité à un forum des métiers pour présenter OSM à l'université 
Bordeaux-Montaigne (si si le lieu du sotm-fr).


Présenter OSM et tout, ça cela va ! Cependant la thématique du forum 
étant "Villes et terres fertiles", auriez vous quelques idées de projets 
qui ont été réalisés avec de la donnée OSM ?


J'ai un peu en idée, les jardins partagés, les friches, ferme urbaine, 
jardins ouvriers, les vignes  Mais pas beaucoup d'exemples !


à votre bon coeur mesdames et messieurs !

--
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Re: [Talk-it] Mappatura centro storico

[Cascafico Giovanni]

Il giorno 7 marzo 2018 11:34, Ivo Reano  ha scritto:

> ...la mia ricca collezione di tracce.
>>>
>>
>> Che ne dici di caricarle su OSM?
>>
>
> Mi dici un metodo veloce?
>


https://www.openstreetmap.org/trace/create
ovviamente descrizione ed etichette aggiungerebbero valore :-)
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Re: [Talk-it] Svincoli e maxspeed

[Simone Saviolo]

Il giorno 7 marzo 2018 11:00, Cascafico Giovanni  ha
scritto:

> Meglio un esempio. In molti casi come questo [1] non c'è nessuna
> segnalazione, ma ovviamente sta al buon senso e al codice della strada
> ridurre la velocità, cosiccome nelle rotatorie.
> Quindi dovrei assegnare a tutti i segmenti dell'intersezione lo stesso
> maxspeed della strada?
>

La maxspeed, in assenza di segnalazione, è la stessa della strada
principale. Ovviamente, la reale velocità di percorrenza è molto inferiore,
per via della geometria della strada - ma questo non possiamo indicarlo, e
un navigatore potrebbe solo stimarlo.


> Semi OT: ho trovato una sentenza interessante che dava ragione ad un
> automobilita multato per andare a 60Kmh dopo un'intersezione segnalata a
> max 50Kmh. Ne deduco che in mancanza di altre segnalazioni, uscendo
> dall'intersezione si ripristina il limite standard per quella strada.
>

Il CdS stabilisce che le intersezioni annullano ogni divieto, che va
pertanto ripetuto.

Ciao,

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Re: [Talk-it] Mappatura centro storico

[Ivo Reano]

>
> ...la mia ricca collezione di tracce.
>>
>
> Che ne dici di caricarle su OSM?
>

Mi dici un metodo veloce?
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Re: [Talk-it] nuova versione di iD supporta WMS

[Marco Bartalini]

FINALMENT.

come mai solo le pcn 2006?

nn dovrebbe funzionare con tutti  i wms?




*Marco Bartalini,marcobartal...@gmail.com *

2018-03-06 18:21 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer :

> Segnalo che è uscita una nuova versione di iD che supporta immagini WMS
> (grazie anche  Martin Raifer), per ora del PCN soltanto le foto del 2006.
>
> Ciao,
> Martin
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[Talk-de] Umfrage zum sotm Programm

[Christine Karch]

Hallo,

es gibt eine Umfrage zum SotM Programm:

https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2018/03/07/community-survey-for-the-state-of-the-map-2018-program/

Das ist eine gute Gelegenheit Einfluss darauf zu nehmen, welche Talks
ins Programm aufgenommen werden.

Gruesse Christine

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[OSM-talk-fr] enquête pour le programme de sotm

[Christine Karch]

Bonjour,

il y a une enquête pour le programme de sotm:

https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2018/03/07/community-survey-for-the-state-of-the-map-2018-program/

C'est votre chance de nous dire quelles présentations vous voulez entendre.

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Re: [Talk-it] Svincoli e maxspeed

[Cascafico Giovanni]

Meglio un esempio. In molti casi come questo [1] non c'è nessuna
segnalazione, ma ovviamente sta al buon senso e al codice della strada
ridurre la velocità, cosiccome nelle rotatorie.
Quindi dovrei assegnare a tutti i segmenti dell'intersezione lo stesso
maxspeed della strada?

Semi OT: ho trovato una sentenza interessante che dava ragione ad un
automobilita multato per andare a 60Kmh dopo un'intersezione segnalata a
max 50Kmh. Ne deduco che in mancanza di altre segnalazioni, uscendo
dall'intersezione si ripristina il limite standard per quella strada.





[1] https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/46.30168/13.11941

Il giorno 7 marzo 2018 09:39, Max1234Ita  ha scritto:

> cascafico wrote
> > Mi capita spesso di trovare svincoli, anche piccoli, etichettati
> > highway=primary|secondary|tertiary...senza maxspeed; in alcuni casi tale
> > assenza porta certi navigatori a fare entrare in piccoli svincoli,
> > pensando
> > sia la strada più veloce,. rispetto alla principale la quale ha assegnato
> > p.es 50kmh.
> >
> > Ho quindi il dubbio: non è che assegnare il suffisso "_link" possa
> > risolvere il problema,. senza assegnare ad ogni segmentino una maxspeed
> > che
> > comunque sarebbe irrealisticamente alta?
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> No, che io sappia  il tag_link non implica un limite di velocità per
> default, serve solo a specificare che quello è uno svincolo/rampa.
> Devi proprio metterci tu il limite di 40 Km/h specificato dal Codice della
> Strada... ma in questi casi è sempre meglio verificare cosa dicoo i
> cartelli
> sul posto.
>
> Ciao,
> Max
>
> Se sono strade che conosci e/o hai modo di fare un survey
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[OSM-talk] community survey for sotm program

[Christine Karch]

Hi,

there is a community survey for sotm program:

https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2018/03/07/community-survey-for-the-state-of-the-map-2018-program/

This is your chance to tell us which talks you want to hear.

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Re: [Talk-it] Mappatura centro storico

[Cascafico Giovanni]

Il giorno 7 marzo 2018 10:13, Ivo Reano  ha scritto:

>
> ​Grazie.
> Nella zona uso ESRI Clarity praticamente perfetto, altrove, tra le vallate
> devo correggere la mappa di sfondo (quale che sia) ogni cento metri
> basandomi sulla mia ricca collezione di tracce.
>

Che ne dici di caricarle su OSM?
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Re: [Talk-it] Mappatura centro storico

[Ivo Reano]

​Grazie.
Nella zona uso ESRI Clarity praticamente perfetto, altrove, tra le vallate
devo correggere la mappa di sfondo (quale che sia) ogni cento metri
basandomi sulla mia ricca collezione di tracce.
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Re: [Talk-cz] WeeklyOSM CZ 397 - outdoor mapa?

[majka]

On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 at 08:27, Marián Kyral  wrote:

>
> Ahoj,
> zaujal mne ten nový styl:
>
>
> *Omniscale (hostingová služba pro mapy využívající OSM) vydala nový mapový
> styl pro outdoor
> . Mapa je
> k dispozici jako WMTS a WMS a je pravidelně aktualizována. (via Twitter
> )*
> Ovšem nevím co je na něm tak převratného. Jen to, že tam je stínování
> kopců? Čekal jsem minimálně turistické trasy. A ono nic. Tuší někdo, co
> přesně má být outddor mapa?
>
> Marián
>

Vzhledem k tomu, že je to německý komerční projekt, čekala bych zhruba toto
(a trochu se dá tušit i z jejich popisu):
Z OSM vybereme "co nejméně lze" pro rychlé rendrování, plácneme na to 3
různé styly (standard, černobílý, "outdoor"). K "outdoor" přidáme stínování
kopců (dá nejmíň práce a je hodně zjednodušené, s vrstevnicemi už se někdo
musí patlat), a nabídneme jako něco úžasného.
Při pohledu na místa, kde to znám, je obsah mapy (highway, track, path)
stejný, jen v "outdoor" stylu je track a path zobrazeno stejně jako v
mapniku - tedy track o něco méně zřetelné, path lépe. Obsahově je to
naprosto totéž, jen outdoor má pole a lesy víc do žluté. Je to vidět i v
tom, že v Čechách "outdoor" vykresluje i hranice krajů
.

Z obchodního hlediska to takhle i dává největší smysl, ale jako outdoor
mapu bych to nepoužila :)
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Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode Changes

[Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)]

On 6 March 2018 at 23:36,   wrote:
> I was looking at Robert Whittaker’s Postcode Stats chart today and noticed
> that there seems to be an increase in Sectors with 0 or less than 5%
> postcodes mapped where the community had previously got over 5% of postcodes
> mapped.
>
> Checking for my local area they seem to be Council Offices, do we know if
> Royal Mail have added lots of new postcodes for council offices or if they
> have moved from the sorting office.

I think most of what you were seeing at
http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/addresses/pc-stats/ was a mistake on my
part. I imported the new version of Code-Point Open yesterday, and
forgot to run the script that marks sectors that comprise only
non-geographic postcodes. Those marked sectors get excluded from the
counts of poorly mapped sectors. I've now run the script, so hopefully
things should be back to normal now.

Robert.

-- 
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Re: [Talk-it] Svincoli e maxspeed

[Max1234Ita]

cascafico wrote
> Mi capita spesso di trovare svincoli, anche piccoli, etichettati
> highway=primary|secondary|tertiary...senza maxspeed; in alcuni casi tale
> assenza porta certi navigatori a fare entrare in piccoli svincoli,
> pensando
> sia la strada più veloce,. rispetto alla principale la quale ha assegnato
> p.es 50kmh.
> 
> Ho quindi il dubbio: non è che assegnare il suffisso "_link" possa
> risolvere il problema,. senza assegnare ad ogni segmentino una maxspeed
> che
> comunque sarebbe irrealisticamente alta?
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No, che io sappia  il tag_link non implica un limite di velocità per
default, serve solo a specificare che quello è uno svincolo/rampa. 
Devi proprio metterci tu il limite di 40 Km/h specificato dal Codice della
Strada... ma in questi casi è sempre meglio verificare cosa dicoo i cartelli
sul posto.

Ciao,
Max

Se sono strade che conosci e/o hai modo di fare un survey



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Re: [Talk-it] Svincoli e maxspeed

[Volker Schmidt]

Dovrebbero essere X_link. Ma i limiti di velocità sui svincoli di
autostrade e superstrade sono quasi sempre indicati con cartelli
individuali (spesso sono anche molto basse)

2018-03-07 9:27 GMT+01:00 Cascafico Giovanni :

> Mi capita spesso di trovare svincoli, anche piccoli, etichettati
> highway=primary|secondary|tertiary...senza maxspeed; in alcuni casi tale
> assenza porta certi navigatori a fare entrare in piccoli svincoli, pensando
> sia la strada più veloce,. rispetto alla principale la quale ha assegnato
> p.es 50kmh.
>
> Ho quindi il dubbio: non è che assegnare il suffisso "_link" possa
> risolvere il problema,. senza assegnare ad ogni segmentino una maxspeed che
> comunque sarebbe irrealisticamente alta?
>
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Re: [Talk-it] Mappatura centro storico

[Cascafico Giovanni]

Ciao,
se stai usando le immagini di Bing, ti consiglio di impostare un piccolo
spostamento (-4.5;-1.7) per allinearle alle tracce GPS esistenti in zona

Il giorno 6 marzo 2018 19:33, Ivo Reano  ha scritto:

> Salute a tutti!
> Sto lentamente mappando l'edificato del mio paese (Balangero, Torino
> ).
>
> Ho iniziato da casa mia e un po per volta, con molti errori, cominciando
> dalle aree dove ci sono solo case isolate o a gruppetti, sono arrivato ad
> un buon punto.
> Il problema adesso è mappare il centro storico, costituito da caseggiati
> nati nel XVI/XVII secolo, costruiti intorno a cortili, detti "sim
> 
> ".
>
> Ho provato a guardare altri paesi vicini ma sembra che nessuno si sia
> messo a fare il lavoro che sto facendo io!!!
>
> Avete qualche esempio dove è stato fatto un lavoro di mappatura edifici in
> un centro simile?
>
> Per ora come potete vedere dalla mappa, mi accontento di tagggare
> building=yes e dove sono sicuro house. Poi conto di inserire i vari negozi,
> numeri civici ecc. ecc.
>
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[Talk-it] Svincoli e maxspeed

[Cascafico Giovanni]

Mi capita spesso di trovare svincoli, anche piccoli, etichettati
highway=primary|secondary|tertiary...senza maxspeed; in alcuni casi tale
assenza porta certi navigatori a fare entrare in piccoli svincoli, pensando
sia la strada più veloce,. rispetto alla principale la quale ha assegnato
p.es 50kmh.

Ho quindi il dubbio: non è che assegnare il suffisso "_link" possa
risolvere il problema,. senza assegnare ad ogni segmentino una maxspeed che
comunque sarebbe irrealisticamente alta?
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