[OSM-talk] (licence of wikidata) was: Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-06-07 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 07/06/2015 12:43, Simon Poole wrote: - while superficially the licence of wikidata is claimed to be CC0 That does raise an interesting question - while the source of wikidata is claimed to be CC0 the source of wikipedia isn't: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyrights A

[OSM-talk] Unsigned road refs (was: Re: Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?)

2015-05-30 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 30/05/2015 13:51, Jóhannes Birgir Jensson wrote: I find it odd that inaction, incapability or incompetence of local sign installers is a worry for a database of geographical facts, which OSM is. Why should it be incompetence? Near where I live there's a ring road around a local town.

Re: [OSM-talk] Keulen (was Re: Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?)

2015-05-30 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 30/05/2015 07:59, Roland Olbricht wrote: I happened to drive through Belgium a few days ago, heading home. A good approximation of home in this case is name=Köln. Actually, I found a street sign (150 km away from Köln) that reads Keulen. Should I have followed it or not? A name:xx

Re: [Talk-GB] Snowdonia National Park Boundary

2015-05-29 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 29/05/2015 09:16, David Woolley wrote: There are ways of reversing changes exactly, but they are difficult to use if there have been ad hoc attempts to repair in the mean time, as you have to reverse those repairs first and you need to distinguish them from legitimate changes that

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 29/05/2015 07:07, Andrew Hain wrote: Thank you Dave. As a British mapper I am ashamed that some people want to make the map of my country less useful, and not only to Russian speakers a long way away. Hang on, where is _anybody_ saying that? The whole point of the thread is about whether

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 29/05/2015 12:51, Maarten Deen wrote: It depends on what you want. When someone asks me to navigate to Natanzon, Haifa how can I enter it when the only name in the map is נתנזון, חיפה? I don't see why the transliterated name is not important. No-one is saying that the transliterated

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 29/05/2015 12:14, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: On 29/05/2015, SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk wrote: how do we distinguish in the Abergavenny case between the two established names and the up to 7,000 (but realistically in the short term a few hundred) translations? That's unfortunately

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 29/05/2015 10:42, Nick Whitelegg wrote: You don't even need on the ground evidence. You just need someone ... or something ... with knowledge of Cyrillic and Roman alphabets to be able to transliterate Abergavenny into the Cyrillic, presumably. Absolutely. But leaving aside whether

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 29/05/2015 14:14, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: I'm not a fan of (un)signed=* (the most common in tagginfo) because their meaning is not obvious enough. name:signed=en;cy would be a first and open the multiple-value can of worms. But name:signed=yes/no has 161 uses in taginfo, and

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-28 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 28/05/2015 22:27, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: You can argue against machine-made non-reviewed translitterations, because they don't add anything that a data consumer couldn't and because they likely contain mistakes. But that's apparenlty not the case of the name:ru changeset that got reverted.

Re: [Talk-GB] Snowdonia National Park Boundary

2015-05-28 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 28/05/2015 20:12, Colin Smale wrote: Querying the history on the website just times out so I can't easily see when it went pear-shaped and how it used to be http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/287245 http://osm.mapki.com/history/relation.php?id=287245 shows recent changes to

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-28 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 27/05/2015 22:56, Andy Mabbett wrote: A demonstrator, using Wikidata labels, is: http://googleknowledge.github.io/qlabel/demo/map/ (choose select language). Coders might enjoy viewing the source code. That's interesting, but seems just to do multiple http transactions to get the names it

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-28 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 28/05/2015 11:20, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: El Jueves 28. mayo 2015 10.59.21 Steve Doerr escribió: There might be a case for adding pronunciations (of 'difficult' names at least) to the OSM database. Someone must have proposed a tagging scheme for this, surely? Yup.

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-28 Per discussione SomeoneElse
/globalmap/ To release the map, we need the whole map in Russian, and in English. For closed beta, we chose to enable a small subset of a map, 80 provinces, for which I manually added the translations: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/30451655 This changeset got reverted by SomeoneElse

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-28 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 28/05/2015 16:38, Andrew Guertin wrote: A quick internet search shows plenty of results for Абергавенни, including Wikipedia, hotel booking sites, and Harry Potter websites, and by looking at Google's book results, you can see that it's been in use since at least the 1800s. And with just

Re: [Talk-GB] ooops.... I destroyed a building...

2015-05-27 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 27/05/2015 21:29, thomas van der veen wrote: Hi, I just did a quick update to a path in Newbury and goes through a tunnel in a building... but my edit seems to have destroyed the building and I am not sure how to get it back. http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/51.40251/-1.32458 is the

Re: [Talk-GB] Coastline bleeding (again)

2015-05-19 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 19/05/2015 12:13, Dave F. wrote: Hi For the past few weeks I've been getting random blue fill at high zoom levels. Is this caused by the coastline being broken again? When it happens, right-click the browser and view image. You'll get a URL something like:

Re: [Talk-GB] Issue with Changeset

2015-05-15 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 15/05/2015 10:22, Jason Woollacott wrote: Looks like there has been an issue with changeset 30821940 Which seems to have added the A30 through the whole of Cornwall on an incorrect route. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/30821940 Didn’t want to back this change out myself, as not

Re: [Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads

2015-05-12 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 12/05/2015 17:28, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Why not ref:highway_authority To keep the tags just a little bit organized? https://xkcd.com/927/ (sorry) ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads

2015-05-12 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 12/05/2015 11:22, Matthijs Melissen wrote: Maybe the tag unsigned_ref is an outcome? 0 uses in the UK: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/keys/unsigned_ref There are 86 ref:signed=no (mostly by me, so not a widely used tag) but that's where something demonstrably is the real

Re: [Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads

2015-05-12 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 12/05/2015 11:30, Andy Robinson wrote: Where I see these on C/U roads I change the ref= tag to highway_authority_ref= http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/keys/highway_authority_ref 276 of those - that's one that I wasn't aware of! Cheers, Andy

Re: [Talk-GB] Ref names on Residential roads

2015-05-12 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 12/05/2015 09:52, Bob Kerr wrote: On residential roads where there has been a ref= added is being rendered on Mapnik. Is this something new since I have not been checking recently. This is all over the highlands https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/57.5695/-4.4282 I don't think

[OSM-talk] Problems with the wiki (was Why OSM and not another collaborative mapping service?)

2015-05-07 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 07/05/2015 12:03, Simon Poole wrote: I'm really not sure what this discussion is doing on tagging and have redirected follow ups to talk (it has in the matter of a few mails already gone substantially off-topic though). The page in question is actually a fork of

Re: [Talk-GB] What was the outcome of the discussion about C class roads with ref tags?

2015-05-04 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 04/05/2015 08:35, Graham Jones wrote: I don't know where the discussion got to, but thought I should point out that at least one road in North Yorkshire is a C road that is signposted as such. The road here does have signs with the C designation.

Re: [Talk-GB] What was the outcome of the discussion about C class roads with ref tags?

2015-05-04 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 04/05/2015 10:50, Philip Barnes wrote: In this case if you have surveyed it and it is signed then it would be helpful if it was tagged as signed=yes, or something similar. SomeoneElse I think he has used similar tagging for unsigned A roads. FWIW I've used name:signed=no and ref:signed

Re: [Talk-GB] What was the outcome of the discussion about C class roads with ref tags?

2015-05-04 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 04/05/2015 11:10, Steve Doerr wrote: Personally, I quite like the fact that our map has C numbers on where other maps don't. What I don't like, though, is seeing U numbers for unclassified roads, which are cluttering up the map of my home area

Re: [OSM-talk] Chain Store Cleanup

2015-05-02 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 02/05/2015 02:18, Andrew MacKinnon wrote: The same is true with an amenity=restaurant called Subway, since it should be amenity=fast_food and any Subway that is not the well known chain would almost certainly be sued by the well known chain and forced to changed its name. I wouldn't

Re: [OSM-talk] BBC License Violation?

2015-05-01 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 01/05/2015 22:18, Robert Banick wrote: Hi All, I was reading the below linked article on the BBC today and came across the map. It looks like they’re using OSM-derived internally displaced person (IDP) camp data without attribution. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/20039682 Looks like that

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed Semi Mechanical Edit : recycling:excrement

2015-04-17 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 17/04/2015 02:05, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 04/17/2015 02:10 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: I propose to use context to determine the meaning, and retag according to current conventions. For example recycling:excrement at a marina dock will be assume as a marine sewage pumpout station. The

Re: [OSM-talk] Tiles caching issue

2015-04-16 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 16/04/2015 18:59, Daniel Koć wrote: Recently I got tired of a caching problem with rendered tiles, which causes freshly changed tiles to dis- and reappear with no particular pattern. I wrote about it here: https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/issues/955 For me it's very

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-GB] weeklyOSM 243 now in English

2015-03-24 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 22/03/2015 15:54, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 21 March 2015 at 21:18, Manfred A. Reiter ma.rei...@gmail.com wrote: The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 243, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the openstreetmap world:

[Talk-it] Deletion of relations in Sicily / Di eliminazione delle relazioni in Sicilia

2015-03-23 Per discussione SomeoneElse
per la comunità italiana. Se non è sarei grato se qualcuno potrebbe postare in un forum più largamente usato. Best Regards /i migliori saluti, Andy Townsend (SomeoneElse), on behalf of the OSM Data Working Group (1) http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/29645361

Re: [Talk-it] Deletion of relations in Sicily / Di eliminazione delle relazioni in Sicilia

2015-03-23 Per discussione SomeoneElse
Regards, Andy Townsend (SomeoneElse), on behalf of the OSM Data Working Group ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Your opinion about SOTM US

2015-03-18 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 15/03/2015 23:20, Mikel Maron wrote: On Saturday, March 14, 2015 9:59 PM, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote: Yeah, that's just setting up a HOT tasking manager right? Except the HOT tasking manager will probably choke on one half hour tasks for all of US :) Set up multiple projects on the

Re: [OSM-talk] Taginfo challenge

2015-03-14 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 14/03/2015 21:48, Andreas Goss wrote: Just because people some people make bad decisions when mapping, doesn't mean that the whole project has to lower its standards. And some people in this case are what? 99%? I seriously there are many people who would spend a second though when changing

Re: [OSM-talk] Second decade visions

2015-03-12 Per discussione SomeoneElse
How about just less chat*, more mapping? Cheers, Andy * endless tagging list discussions, wikivotes etc. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Cat Forest

2015-03-10 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 14/02/2015 21:30, SomeoneElse wrote: Hi folks, Every now and then, not far from null island, some features pop up in the middle of the Atlantic. One of them's called Cat Forest. You can see references to it here: The source of Cat Forest has been found: https://github.com/hotosm

Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for outdoor mapping party

2015-03-09 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 09/03/2015 16:09, Harald Kliems wrote: Does this sound reasonable? Anything else I should be thinking of? I'll apologise upfront in case any of this sounds like the bleeding obvious - I'm sure you'll have thought through lots of this and more already... One thing that immediately comes

Re: [Talk-us] Bus flag stops?

2015-03-09 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 08/03/2015 15:12, Paul Johnson wrote: If someone pulls the cord or there's someone waiting at it, yes. But it's not like a bus station where the bus will always stop regardless of demand. In the UK customary stops like this tend to get tagged as physically_present=no:

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposed import of approximately 6 bicycle repair tool stands in the UK

2015-03-05 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 05/03/2015 20:39, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: I'm happy to import *JUST the six notes* if that's preferred, without any node Could you have a go at locating these notes a bit better than the previous reverted import (e.g. put the note for the one that says that is in the Swan Hotel in Stafford

Re: [Talk-us] Why?

2015-03-05 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 05/03/2015 21:47, stevea wrote: I add that another, vital, and even preferred approach towards mediocre or crude data is to contact the editor and offer help (instruction) in improving them. This really grows the project, too, when and as it takes. Fixing something myself (and/or with

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-de] Formal proposal: mechanically reverting fixme=set␣better␣denotation / denotation=cluster

2015-03-04 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 04/03/2015 18:18, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Ok, making a possibly final call for input on the proposed cluster mechanical edit: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Bryce_C_Nesbitt Just to be clear - you're only removing these tags where they were added by the original

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-de] Formal proposal: mechanically reverting fixme=set␣better␣denotation / denotation=cluster

2015-03-04 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 04/03/2015 19:20, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Andy, It appears from an audit that there's been a modest amount of editing,and mechanical copying of the trees affected by the original import. In the UK that import was reverted, but worldwide it is messier. The denotation=cluster tag itself is

Re: [OSM-talk] Mechanically Cleaning Up FIXME Tags

2015-03-01 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 25/02/2015 08:51, Tobias Knerr wrote: On 25.02.2015 02:58, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: It is apparent that a number of imports have left tens of thousands of fixme notes that have a low chance of ever getting addressed. Pick your favorite from the lists above: set␣better␣denotation is my mine.

Re: [OSM-talk] Mechanically Cleaning Up FIXME Tags

2015-02-25 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 25/02/2015 05:00, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Any fixme in wide use I'm not interested in deleting. I'd strongly oppose the mechanical deletion of low volume fixme values. Mappers local to me often use individually worded fixmes describing something that needs investigation. By definition

Re: [OSM-talk] Routing on osm.org

2015-02-18 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 18/02/2015 11:38, Nick Whitelegg wrote: I've tried some foot routing out and it appears that someone has done a mass addition of access=private to large numbers of ROWs in Hampshire. See

[OSM-talk] Cat Forest

2015-02-14 Per discussione SomeoneElse
Hi folks, Every now and then, not far from null island, some features pop up in the middle of the Atlantic. One of them's called Cat Forest. You can see references to it here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/308544 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/219747755/history

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM contact for complicated licence violation investigation

2015-02-12 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 12/02/2015 11:53, Michael Kugelmann wrote: On 12.02.2015 at 12:30 Richard Z. wrote: came across a pretty major license violation and need technical help and another pair of eyes to figure out what is going on. http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Data_working_group or

Re: [OSM-talk] guide to vandalism” in OSM?

2015-02-12 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 12/02/2015 13:32, Dave F. wrote: Thanks to both for the clarification. The way it was written it implied bona fide editors were deliberately adding false POIs to catch vandals. I translated that bit; I added quotes to the German original and changed the payoff to try and make it obvious

Re: [OSM-talk] this has to stop: iD user mistakes all over the place

2015-02-10 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 10/02/2015 23:38, colliar wrote: ... I am fed up with ... ... at this point it's probably worth mentioning that we've been here before: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2013-August/thread.html#67854 Unfortunately, experience suggests that there's relatively little that a

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project - Fix tha Road Name

2015-02-10 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 06/02/2015 12:08, Brian Prangle wrote: ... So we thought that adding Notes about road names that need fixing on the standard OSM map, asking for confirmation of the correct name, might elicit some response via a comment indicating the correct name. I see that you and RobJN have added

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: [Imports] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far

2015-01-26 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 26/01/2015 19:19, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: 2) Nobody seems to mind if a school POI is off by 30 meters. But the people do seem to care for bicycle repair stations. Citation needed, I think. That may be true in the US (were schools imported there?) but I'd be very surprised if in the UK

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: [Imports] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far

2015-01-26 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 26/01/2015 19:55, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net mailto:o...@raggedred.net wrote: Again, that doesn't justify adding data you know are poor quality. Please don't do that. The data in question is collected via GPS: it's of

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far

2015-01-25 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 25/01/2015 05:20, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Where do OSM cycling enthusiasts hang out : is there a mailing list or group focused on cycling features? #osm-gb on IRC. :) (I'm only half joking - the channel topic is usually Pubs and cycle routes a speciality) Cheers, Andy

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far

2015-01-25 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 25/01/2015 19:06, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: I figure that OSM has a small role to play here: if everyone's smartphone bike app can FIND these stations, that will increase awareness and thus encourage universities and cities to install them. There does seem to have been a few issues with some

[Talk-GB] Unsigned road names (was Fix the road name!)

2015-01-24 Per discussione SomeoneElse
Hijacking the thread somewhat, but something that I was wondering about recently... There are many roads that are signed, and we can add them to OSM. Great! There are some roads that are signed, and the sign differs from what the local authority thinks that a road is called (usually just

Re: [talk-au] Bruxner Motorway

2015-01-24 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 24/01/2015 11:41, Leon Kernan wrote: It may have been a few years since I've been to northern NSW, however this doesn't look right to me. http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/-28.8528/153.4695 Anyone familiar with the area able to confirm there is/isn't a brand new Bruxner Motorway

Re: [Talk-GB] Data search request: help please

2015-01-22 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 22/01/2015 21:59, Andy Mabbett wrote: I need some help, please. I want to compile a list of all the pubs (including taverns bars, etc) in the UK, with the word Louise as part of the name. Do you mean in the UK, or in OSM in the UK? How might I do this, given that I am not a coder? My

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Mappa Mercia events

2015-01-20 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 20/01/2015 00:51, Matthijs Melissen wrote: I have the impression that Saturday meetings seem to have a higher turnout than evening meetings, as they also allow people from a bit further afield to join. Maybe we could also plan again one or two Saturday meetings in the Summer? I believe

Re: [Talk-GB] Hanbury Meeting - Fauld Crater

2015-01-10 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 10/01/2015 17:09, Donald Noble wrote: I know that tagging for the renderer is not particularly helpful, however, might it be appropriate in this instance to map the significant slopes around the edges of the crater with man_made=embankment ? There are slopes there in reality, and they are

Re: [OSM-talk] Change: How mature is OpenStreetMap?

2015-01-09 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 09/01/2015 14:09, Hans De Kryger wrote: I think the reason most long time mappers don't communicate the mistake the was made to new mapper ​ s​ is ​ the fact that where​ afraid of getting into a long drawn out conversation with them or it turning into a disagreement and ​ end ​ ing​

Re: [OSM-talk] Changeset messaging Notes feature question

2015-01-09 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 09/01/2015 12:23, Dave F. wrote: OK, but however you perceive it, it still activates the 'view notes'. Although it adds clarity to do so, it's not essential to the 'add a note' function. Speaking as a frequent user of the add notes function, I'd say that it is extremely useful to

Re: [OSM-talk] Change: How mature is OpenStreetMap?

2015-01-06 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 06/01/2015 01:25, Michał Brzozowski wrote: * Software for monitoring OSM changes is still very rudimentary. I wanna be the f**king NSA. It's incredibly hard to check newbies' work quickly (eg. you have to load every changeset separately into OSMHV). I'm not sure that it is incredibly hard -

Re: [OSM-talk] New building colour

2015-01-04 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 04/01/2015 13:01, Lester Caine wrote: Perhaps now is the time to be looking again at real time rendering with a selectable style sheet, or perhaps simply a base layer on top of which different languages and styles can be selected. That sort of thing has been suggested before(1) but having

Re: [OSM-talk] Garmin nuvi track recording

2014-12-29 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 29/12/2014 16:53, Volker Schmidt wrote: I tried to find, unsuccessfully, information about track recording with GARMIN nuvi models. I had occasion to use a nuvi 50 (with OSM maps) for car navigation. It worked fine apart from the track recording that seems to be permanently in lock on road

Re: [Talk-GB] Post-Christmas Midlands OSM Meet-up

2014-12-29 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 29/12/2014 17:06, SK53 wrote: So I'd like to suggest everyone meets at the rendezvous, and that at least the first short walk is done as a group. Has anyone cleared parking at the pub? Some places can get sniffy about it (even if spending lots of money there later). There's also

Re: [Talk-GB] Totesport

2014-12-21 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 21/12/2014 12:02, Andrew Hain wrote: Betfred took over Totesport a few years ago but there are still tags name=Totesport, name=totesport or operator=Totesport in Ashford, Birmingham(2), London (2), Manchester (2), Northampton, Oxford, Rotherham and Wakefield. I'd be tempted to add OSM

Re: [Talk-GB] No more voting on mechanical edits

2014-12-19 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 18/12/2014 18:59, Rovastar wrote: Well please share the thoughts about what suggestions you have. The big problem is not really whether a particular shop has an apostrophe in the name or not, but the fact that we don't have anything like all of said shops mapped. I suggested that any

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC-3 Mechanical edit: UK Shop Names

2014-12-18 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 18/12/2014 10:48, Dan S wrote: 2014-12-18 10:39 GMT+00:00 SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk: On 18/12/2014 02:10, Matthijs Melissen wrote: If you oppose this proposal, or if you want to register particular areas or objects for an opt-out, please edit the wiki page under the section

Re: [Talk-GB] No more voting on mechanical edits

2014-12-18 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 18/12/2014 10:24, Dan S wrote: Hi Matthijs, The DWG email used the word consensus inappropriately, since consensus means everyone agreeing, and we didn't. However, consensus is essentially impossible in big wiki communities like ours, so let's assume there's a relative meaning of the term ;)

Re: [talk-au] Cycling network tag

2014-12-15 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 08/12/2014 11:25, Steve Bennett wrote: It was quite an eye opener for me earlier this year to cycle in the UK to discover that they really do have LCN, RCN, and NCN. And they're slightly different from what I expected: NCN is basically a network that links towns together, LCN and other

Re: [Talk-GB] Advice on footpaths - when should they be separate, when not?

2014-12-01 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 01/12/2014 11:58, John Aldridge wrote: On 01/12/2014 11:39, Stuart Reynolds wrote: Looking for some advice in Bletchley, specifically, but to answer a more general point about footpaths. : So what is the guidance here? Ought the road have a distinct footpath both sides? Or not footpath,

Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData Layer down?

2014-11-29 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 29/11/2014 12:16, tony wroblewski wrote: Hi I've been unable to access the OS OpenData layer in both JOSM and ID. Has the address or URL changed, or is the server just down at the moment? Server room maintenance perhaps? There's some work mentioned here:

Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData Layer down?

2014-11-29 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 29/11/2014 12:44, tony wroblewski wrote: Thanks Andy Yep, I guess it's hosted on faffy, and it's currently down. It's actually a little more complicated than that I think. It _was_ hosted there, but that broke (hardware failure of some sort) during the last maintenance period). The

[OSM-talk] Issues with Mapbox paid mappers (was: Detrimental validation software)

2014-11-27 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 13/10/2014 18:32, Aaron Lidman wrote: Richrico should have responded. The Mapbox data team has a policy to respond to all questions from the community. I'm sorry he didn't, he has now, and we've reminded all members of our data team of this policy. This should no longer be an issue in the

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM University of Liverpool exercise (or 200 free(ish) volunteers)

2014-11-27 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 27/11/2014 13:50, Nick Bearman wrote: and what areas in Liverpool would benefit most from the students contribution. Currently, giving the time available to the students, I would be thinking of a desk-based digitisation exercise, but this can be flexible. Based on a fleeting visit to

Re: [OSM-talk] Is there some loop trip founder?

2014-11-26 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 26/11/2014 23:01, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: But is there any tool capable of finding interesting trips starting in some selected place, that returns to the point of origin after going through some interesting* places using good* ways? http://walks.io/ has a go at doing a bit like that.

Re: [Talk-GB] Suburbs in London/Brum - big edits

2014-11-20 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 20/11/2014 07:52, Lester Caine wrote: ... although the list of other local mappers on your profile is one place where I would like to see that particular link included! ... and don't forget that iD already includes an edits by section at the bottom of the screen which links to people who

Re: [Talk-GB] Suburbs in London/Brum - big edits

2014-11-19 Per discussione SomeoneElse
For info, I added a comment to the first of these changesets and the editor replied there: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26783815 Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-GB] Allegedly named motorways

2014-11-18 Per discussione SomeoneElse
There seem to be quite a few GB motorways in OSM with names, and some of those names don't look very plausible. For example, there's: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/37906957 This is the M4 past Heathrow and apparently it is named the Chiswick to Langley Special Road. That name seems to

Re: [OSM-talk] Monitoring route relations

2014-11-16 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 16/11/2014 10:13, Colin Smale wrote: I have also been looking for such a facility - in my case for admin boundaries. For admin boundaries in the UK and Ireland I use EdLoach's : http://www.loach.me.uk/osm/boundaries/ Cheers, Andy ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] State of the Map US 2015 in New York, NY, June 6-8

2014-11-12 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 12/11/2014 03:13, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: They are technically extraterritorial through a treaty agreement with the U.S. government (1). Good luck getting there without a US visa though! Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking.

2014-11-12 Per discussione SomeoneElse
and interpretation (and a local survey!) to see how everything on the ground relates to everything else. Based on their error rate so far I'd definitely still suggest that local mappers check their edits. Cheers, Andy On 08/11/2014 22:51, SomeoneElse wrote: An anonymous note adder (http

Re: [Talk-GB] Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking.

2014-11-12 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 12/11/2014 10:59, Stuart Reynolds wrote: Please pass the details back to me, and I will discuss it with them and also with the community if things need reverting. Thanks Stuart. All of my detailed comments so far have been on changesets. I went through

Re: [Talk-GB] Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking.

2014-11-12 Per discussione SomeoneElse
For completeness, I've also added a changeset discussion comment to: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26688781 Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

[Talk-us] Anyone from New York State around?

2014-11-12 Per discussione SomeoneElse
I happened to notice https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/24646348 while looking at something else. It looks a bit odd - doesn't seem to match the underlying imagery. The previous changeset by this user https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/24646289 is a similar bunch of deletions,

Re: [Talk-us] Anyone from New York State around?

2014-11-12 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 12/11/2014 19:43, Richard Welty wrote: On 11/12/14 2:36 PM, Richard Welty wrote: i'm taking a look at them now. i see tags deleted, and then restored by pnorman_mechanical. so there was a problem, but it seems that it's long since fixed (thanks paul) richard Some of them were reverted but

[Talk-GB] Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking.

2014-11-08 Per discussione SomeoneElse
An anonymous note adder (http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/267719) and someone on IRC noticed some problematical railway edits near Sutton-in-Ashfield: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/311380489#map=15/53.1247/-1.2346layers=N It looks like an attempt to dual the Robin Hood line went a bit

[Talk-GB] Mapping turn lanes on major roads

2014-11-07 Per discussione SomeoneElse
I'd always assumed that the correct way to map turn lanes is via: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:turn:lanes . However, some mappers in the UK* have started mapping each individual lane as a separate parallel road. Here's an example:

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC-2 mechanical edit: UK shop names

2014-11-05 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 05/11/2014 17:24, Matthijs Melissen wrote: Could you please have a look at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Math1985/UK_Shop_Names if there are any other changes that need removing or changing? Wilkinson we know are in a process of rebranding to Wilko; so I might be

[OSM-talk] Changeset dicsussion function (was: Changeset comment function)

2014-11-02 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 02/11/2014 10:36, Simon Poole wrote: I would like to personally thank ukasiu, emacsen, woodpeck and TomH for developing and deploying this. A much wanted and needed feature. Thanks from me too. I think that it'll be really, really useful. Currently meta discussions happen elsewhere (on

Re: [Talk-GB] Consolidated views of notes, fixmes, musical chairs, etc.

2014-11-01 Per discussione SomeoneElse
for years take for granted. Cheers, Andy ** http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SomeoneElse/notes ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

[Talk-GB] Notes (was Consolidated views of notes, fixmes, musical chairs, etc.)

2014-11-01 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 01/11/2014 20:08, Matthijs Melissen wrote: I in fact even proposed incorporating a system that makes this explicit in the notes API: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-August/070423.html Unfortunately, my suggestion in that thread didn't gain traction. It's great to have

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contents Licence for OSM Data

2014-10-29 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 29/10/2014 09:05, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: It therefore surprised me when I read the White Paper ... What I read was MapBox pays some bloke called Kevin to write a paper supporting their commercial point of view re the licensing of OpenStreetMap data. Does it really deserve

Re: [Talk-GB] Notes vs Fixme

2014-10-24 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 24/10/2014 14:06, Dave F. wrote: On 23/10/2014 13:04, SomeoneElse wrote: They maybe more visible, but that doesn't mean they get updated or offer more relevant data. If Fixmes had a front end overlay they'd, obviously, be just as noticeable. You could argue that they do: http

Re: [Talk-GB] Notes vs Fixme

2014-10-24 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 24/10/2014 14:06, Dave F. wrote: Specific Q lots of these notes in my area are 'Incorrect speed limit. Reported speed limit is 40 mph' from 'anonymous'. Where is it 'reported' from. Is it being compared with another database? That was mentioned on talk:

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: shop=betting to shop=bookmaker for selected names

2014-10-23 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 22/10/2014 23:04, Matthijs Melissen wrote: Dear all, For all objects tagged with shop=betting and name Betfred, Coral, Ladbrokes, Paddy Power or William Hill, I am planning to change the tag shop=betting into shop=bookmaker. I'm usually the first to stand up for a diversity of tags in OSM

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: shop=betting to shop=bookmaker for selected names

2014-10-23 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 23/10/2014 12:57, Dave F. wrote: I'm not convinced Notes are cleared up any more than Fixmes They certainly are more visible to me - they're available for a simple overlay on the main map and get announced in IRC channels. In order to clear them up I wrote something* to create a Garmin

Re: [OSM-talk] Detrimental validation software

2014-10-16 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 16/10/2014 14:28, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2014-10-16 15:15, Dave F. wrote: I had a footpath between them. So the problem is also that the check is wrong. Apperantly it looks at major roads that are apart, but doesn't see that they are connected by another road. IMHO these cases should

Re: [OSM-talk] Detrimental validation software

2014-10-13 Per discussione SomeoneElse
On 13/10/2014 11:48, Dave F. wrote: Hi Once again I've had user Richrico use this website: http://osmlab.github.io/to-fix/?error=unconnected_major5 to inaccurately amend data in OSM. http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/65398595#map=19/51.32464/-2.22817 Way: 65398595 This way is /not/ joined.

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