Re: [OSM-talk] Software goes on, brain goes off...

2010-06-02 Per discussione Lester Caine
Anthony wrote: You seem to have missed the rest of my post. I was arguing that a road with no pavement but with a shoulder is *not* unsafe. OTOH, if the road has no shoulder, and traffic traveling at 55 mph, and only 1 car a day, I'm not walking down it. I think the POINT here is that

[OSM-talk] OSM XAPI doubt

2010-06-02 Per discussione Juan Lucas Domínguez Rubio
Dear list, Anybody knows why the first query works and the second doesn't? wget http://www.informationfreeway.org/api/0.6/node[bbox=-82.90108,21.82252,-82.88907,21.82971] --output-document=a.txt wget http://www.informationfreeway.org/api/0.6/way[bbox=-82.90108,21.82252,-82.88907,21.82971]

Re: [OSM-talk] Software goes on, brain goes off...

2010-06-02 Per discussione John Smith
On 2 June 2010 17:32, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: 'Safe' for pedestrians to use is simply undefinable as we have already decided when trying to identify URBAN areas where one would not walk on one's own! MAPS I disagree that this is an undefinable problem, as I pointed out before

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM XAPI doubt

2010-06-02 Per discussione Maarten Deen
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 00:39:14 -0700 (PDT), Juan Lucas Domínguez Rubio juan_lucas...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear list, Anybody knows why the first query works and the second doesn't? wget http://www.informationfreeway.org/api/0.6/node[bbox=-82.90108,21.82252,-82.88907,21.82971]

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM XAPI doubt

2010-06-02 Per discussione Juan Lucas Domínguez Rubio
--- On Wed, 6/2/10, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: From: Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OSM XAPI doubt To: talk@openstreetmap.org Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 9:56 AM On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 00:39:14 -0700 (PDT), Juan Lucas Domínguez Rubio juan_lucas...@yahoo.com

[OSM-talk] Software goes on, brain goes off...

2010-06-02 Per discussione Nathan Edgars II
John Smith wrote: If you wanted something more definite, police injury records could provide alternative verifiability, if as John pointed out 5 people were hurt or killed trying to cross a road than it's obviously not safe. Only if you do the same for other vehicles - highway with lots of crashes

Re: [OSM-talk] Software goes on, brain goes off...

2010-06-02 Per discussione M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/6/2 John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com: With many high-speed highways (such as Interstate Highways in the USA, Autobahn in Germany, etc.) you may have wide shoulders, but pedestrian use on the shoulders is inadvisable and/or illegal, because crossing to the other side means having to

Re: [OSM-talk] Software goes on, brain goes off...

2010-06-02 Per discussione John Smith
On 2 June 2010 18:49, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: As others have said, foot=no when pedestrians are legally allowed is a I was one of them if you check my replies. bad idea. As long as you walk against traffic, drivers will usually see you, and you can easily see and get out of

Re: [OSM-talk] On the ground rule on the wiki

2010-06-02 Per discussione Alan Mintz
At 2010-05-31 10:57, Frederik Ramm wrote: Anthony wrote: By these definitions, something that is able to be confirmed as true or false in an official online source is actually *more* verifiable than something written on a street sign in a place where Google Street View has not yet visited.

Re: [OSM-talk] On the ground rule on the wiki

2010-06-02 Per discussione Alan Mintz
At 2010-05-31 13:27, Anthony wrote: 2010/5/31 Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com I don't think anyone has suggested that we leave out things I'd they aren't signposted. Nathan, who started this thread, has done exactly that, and he's gone around removing route relations where the routes were not

Re: [OSM-talk] Software goes on, brain goes off...

2010-06-02 Per discussione Nic Roets
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: John Smith wrote: If you wanted something more definite, police injury records could provide alternative verifiability, if as John pointed out 5 people were hurt or killed trying to cross a road than it's obviously not

Re: [OSM-talk] Flash to JS+SVG ?

2010-06-02 Per discussione Richard Fairhurst
John Smith wrote: Smokescreen, a 175KB, 8,000-line JavaScript-based Flash player written by Chris Smoak at RevShock, a mobile ad startup, and to be open-sourced 'in the near future.' Wow. Just wow. cheers Richard -- View this message in context:

Re: [OSM-talk] Software goes on, brain goes off...

2010-06-02 Per discussione John F. Eldredge
I agree that foot_unsafe=yes would probably be a good compromise, as it would say, yes, you can go this way, but it is risky.. This would be particularly suitable for routes that are riskier under some conditions than others, such as roads with narrow shoulders, risky to walk on after dark.

Re: [OSM-talk] Software goes on, brain goes off...

2010-06-02 Per discussione John Smith
On 2 June 2010 22:06, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: I agree that foot_unsafe=yes would probably be a good compromise, as it would say, yes, you can go this way, but it is risky.. This would be particularly suitable for routes that are riskier under some conditions than others,

Re: [OSM-talk] Software goes on, brain goes off...

2010-06-02 Per discussione Nathan Edgars II
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: As others have said, foot=no when pedestrians are legally allowed is a bad idea. As long as you walk against traffic, drivers will usually see you, and

Re: [OSM-talk] Software goes on, brain goes off...

2010-06-02 Per discussione John F. Eldredge
Good suggestion. --Original Message-- From: John Smith To: John Eldredge Cc: OpenStreetMap talk mailing list Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Software goes on, brain goes off... Sent: Jun 2, 2010 7:19 AM On 2 June 2010 22:06, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: I agree that

Re: [OSM-talk] Software goes on, brain goes off...

2010-06-02 Per discussione Henry Loenwind
On 02.06.2010 14:19, John Smith wrote: You could extend it a little and explain more specifically: unsafe:foot=narrow/fast_traffic/muggers/etc routing:hints:foot:avoid=yes routing:hints:foot:comment=fast traffic routing:hints:motorcar:avoid=yes routing:hints:motorcar:comment=street layout

[OSM-talk] quality insurance tool osmose

2010-06-02 Per discussione Etienne Chové
Hello, Osmose [1], a french quality insurance tool has now some analysers analysing data out of France. * One of the analyser [2] is raising errors on relations boundary=adminitrative wich : - are not closed - have some end nodes more than two times (ie that some way is included

Re: [OSM-talk] Software goes on, brain goes off...

2010-06-02 Per discussione John Smith
On 2 June 2010 23:03, Henry Loenwind he...@loenwind.info wrote: routing:hints:bike:comment=foot traffic avoidance costs time Looks good, except I'd use note instead of comment, only because it is more commonly used already. ___ talk mailing list

[OSM-talk] Fw: Software goes on, brain goes off...

2010-06-02 Per discussione Nick Whitelegg
Sorry, this was intended for the *list*, not Anthony. Damn mail client... She wasn't playing, she was walking to her destination. I can't tell from the pictures whether it was her fault for following the route, her fault for walking on the wrong side of the road, her fault for not staying

Re: [OSM-talk] Fw: Software goes on, brain goes off...

2010-06-02 Per discussione Anthony
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 9:49 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: Worst than that, it could lead to even more stupid terms and conditions annoying you over and over and over again after every route request. They could always require people to log in. Or require people to log in if

Re: [OSM-talk] Fw: Software goes on, brain goes off...

2010-06-02 Per discussione John Smith
On 3 June 2010 00:15, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: They could always require people to log in. Or require people to log in if they want to put up with the annoying terms and conditions only once. This woman is claiming she wasn't warned the route might be bad, so to ensure that people don't

Re: [OSM-talk] Fw: Software goes on, brain goes off...

2010-06-02 Per discussione Anthony
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:16 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: On 3 June 2010 00:15, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: They could always require people to log in. Or require people to log in if they want to put up with the annoying terms and conditions only once. This woman is

Re: [OSM-talk] Fw: Software goes on, brain goes off...

2010-06-02 Per discussione John Smith
On 3 June 2010 00:24, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: This woman is claiming she wasn't warned the route might be bad, so to ensure that people don't forget they agreed to view the warning only once, everyone will be forced to view it every time regardless. Really? Do you have a link for that?

[OSM-talk] Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Karachi

2010-06-02 Per discussione Jean-Guilhem Cailton
Message original Sujet: [CrisisMappers] Karachi Date : Wed, 2 Jun 2010 06:41:05 -0700 (PDT) De :Chris chrisgnicho...@att.net Répondre à :crisismapp...@googlegroups.com Pour : CrisisMappers crisismapp...@googlegroups.com by most forecasts is about to get slammed

Re: [OSM-talk] Cloudmade routing issue

2010-06-02 Per discussione Maarten Deen
Nathan Edgars II wrote: I know this isn't the Cloudmade list, but a recent thread here got some results. I used the feedback link but never got a response. That's strange. I've always gotten a response from Cloudmade. If you go to

Re: [OSM-talk] Software goes on, brain goes off...

2010-06-02 Per discussione SomeoneElse
Anthony wrote: Room to get off the road. That's what I was referring to as a shoulder. Here in the third world (Derbyshire, England) we call those hedges. If I avoided walking along roads without a shoulder or sidewalk of any sort I wouldn't get very far. I think that we're hitting

Re: [OSM-talk] Software goes on, brain goes off...

2010-06-02 Per discussione SomeoneElse
Nic Roets wrote: Nathan, the problem is providing good routing instructions to average people. If we can't provide that we will loose people to Google Map Maker, Waze, Tom Tom etc. One advantage that OSM has over the commercial people is that routes get mapped proportionately to how real

Re: [OSM-talk] Software goes on, brain goes off...

2010-06-02 Per discussione Anthony
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com wrote: When I map, I just want to create a useful map. And when I write software it should be backward compatible with old data and forward compatible with new data and still give reasonable results. I don't want to waste time on

Re: [OSM-talk] Request for comments: Playground Equipment Proposal

2010-06-02 Per discussione Liz
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010, colliar wrote: Am 01.06.2010 16:01, schrieb lulu-...@gmx.de: Hi there, this is not my proposal, but as RfC was forgotten I ask for your comments now. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Playground_Equipment It has been well discussed on mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] Software goes on, brain goes off...

2010-06-02 Per discussione Michael Eric Menk
On 06/02/2010 03:03 PM, Henry Loenwind wrote: routing:hints:motorcar:avoid=yes routing:hints:motorcar:comment=street layout hard to follow for non-locals routing:hints:motorcar:prefer=yes routing:hints:motorcar:comment=faster traffic than the parallel primary Nice.. +1 This would be nice

Re: [OSM-talk] Giving everything a unique ID

2010-06-02 Per discussione simon
On 3 June 2010 05:22, si...@mungewell.org wrote: What would be the purpose of (say) a 2D barcode displayed in the window? I mean, you're all ready there The purpose is to give things a unique ID, the QR code could embed a very unique ID and then that ID can be used to identify that

Re: [OSM-talk] Giving everything a unique ID

2010-06-02 Per discussione John Smith
On 3 June 2010 10:04, si...@mungewell.org wrote: The 'shortlink' does not describe an object with OSM, it describes a location on the planet (akin to a lat/long). Yup, exactly, and it doesn't describe a level in the case of a multilevel building, both above and below ground.

Re: [OSM-talk] Giving everything a unique ID

2010-06-02 Per discussione Gregory
On 3 June 2010 01:04, si...@mungewell.org wrote: The point is people are consistently told OSM IDs shouldn't be considered as unique as the object could be deleted/merged/whatever and so the previous ID is no longer valid even if the object exists with other IDs. How can you

Re: [OSM-talk] Giving everything a unique ID

2010-06-02 Per discussione Simon Biber
Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com wrote: If I'm mapping I try and keep nodes intact and edit the tagging to preserve the ID and history, but there are cases where this can't happen. Another example where ID and history are lost is when we change items from single nodes to areas, as we get

Re: [OSM-talk] Giving everything a unique ID

2010-06-02 Per discussione John Smith
On 3 June 2010 10:24, Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com wrote: If you want a QR code, I understand these are usually(always?) just internet URLs converted into a 2D barcode. For this you can use http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/125847545 QR codes are 2 dimension matrix that store

Re: [OSM-talk] Giving everything a unique ID

2010-06-02 Per discussione John Smith
On 3 June 2010 10:52, Simon Biber simonbi...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Does anyone have a good solution for this? That's what this thread is about, printing out stickers that have their own unique ID, then tagging objects with that ID... ___ talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] Giving everything a unique ID

2010-06-02 Per discussione simon
On 3 June 2010 10:04, si...@mungewell.org wrote: The 'shortlink' does not describe an object with OSM, it describes a location on the planet (akin to a lat/long). Yup, exactly, and it doesn't describe a level in the case of a multilevel building, both above and below ground. or which door

Re: [OSM-talk] Giving everything a unique ID

2010-06-02 Per discussione John Smith
On 3 June 2010 11:45, si...@mungewell.org wrote: or which door bell to press, or the phone number, or The phone number can already be added to objects, but at this point in time there is no ID permanence, which would be useful. As an added bonus it would be some free advertising for OSM.

Re: [OSM-talk] Request for comments: Playground Equipment Proposal

2010-06-02 Per discussione David Murn
On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 07:06 +1000, Liz wrote: but anyway as voting just finished and it was not anounced on the list and the tag is not wide used, I would say we should set it back to proposed and wait for some response. What reason other your personal ignorance do you have for

Re: [OSM-talk] Giving everything a unique ID

2010-06-02 Per discussione John Smith
On 3 June 2010 12:57, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote: I have no problem with giving things a permid. But seriously, we can't go around slapping stickers on the physical world. It's called vandalism. I did say and ask business owners to put them up in their windows in my first

[OSM-talk] SahanaCamp and Workshop - July 2010 - Delhi, India

2010-06-02 Per discussione Tim McNamara
Hi all, If there are any OSM members in the sub-continent, I recommend this event. Sahana makes heavy use of Open Street Maps, and GIS systems in general. It's a great framework for developing applications in the humanitarian disaster response domains. I'm sure many of the participants would be

[Talk-in] Fw: [OSM-talk] SahanaCamp and Workshop - July 2010 - Delhi, India

2010-06-02 Per discussione Mikel Maron
== Mikel Maron == +254(0)724899738 @mikel s:mikelmaron http://mapkibera.org/ http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Haiti - Forwarded Message From: Tim McNamara paperl...@timmcnamara.co.nz To: OSM Talk t...@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 8:10:37 AM Subject: [OSM-talk]

Re: [Talk-it] [per ridere] Tag name

2010-06-02 Per discussione Luigi Chiesa
From: Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 8:32 AM To: openstreetmap list - italiano talk-it@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-it] [per ridere] Tag name Anche non fosse, come segnalare che l'immancabile via Roma (presente nei più piccoli paesi) non è quella

Re: [Talk-it] Serata presentazione OSM a Santhià ( VC)

2010-06-02 Per discussione Andrea Musuruane
2010/5/25 Andrea Musuruane musur...@gmail.com: Ciao a tutti,    martedì 1 giugno, alle ore 21.00 presso la Biblioteca di Santhià (VC), abbiamo organizzato una serata di presentazione di OSM. Per chi fosse interessato, ho pubblicato la presentazione su SlideShare:

[Talk-it] stampa mappa

2010-06-02 Per discussione Matteo
Ciao, qualcuno mi aiuta a stampare la mappa della mia città? Vorrei stamparla al massimo zoom, mi serve per poter segnare con facilità i numeri civici, controllare eventuali errori o vie mancanti. Ho provato facendo esporta e salvando il jpg ma è una cosa lunghissima perchè zoomata al massimo

Re: [Talk-it] stampa mappa

2010-06-02 Per discussione Luca 'remix_tj' Lorenzetto
2010/6/2 Matteo matservi...@yahoo.it: [cut] Avete qualche consiglio da darmi? hai provato a vedere con i walking papers? http://walking-papers.org/ -- E' assurdo impiegare gli uomini di intelligenza eccellente per fare calcoli che potrebbero essere affidati a chiunque se si usassero delle

Re: [Talk-it] stampa mappa

2010-06-02 Per discussione Stefano Salvador
Ciao, qualcuno mi aiuta a stampare la mappa della mia città? questa pagina del wiki dovrebbe esseri d'aiuto http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_on_Paper in breve puoi usare: bigmap: http://openstreetmap.gryph.de/bigmap.cgi ti scarica un'immagine unica grande quanto vuoi, devi però avere

Re: [Talk-it] stampa mappa

2010-06-02 Per discussione Matteo
Luca 'remix_tj' Lorenzetto ha scritto: hai provato a vedere con i walking papers? http://walking-papers.org/ Si, ma non fa al casa mio, a me serve stampare la mappa con lo zoom al massimo per poter avere tutti i nomi delle vie, poi ruotarla e rimpicciolirla finchè si riescono a leggere.

Re: [Talk-it] Serata presentazione OSM a Santhià (VC )

2010-06-02 Per discussione Carlo Stemberger
Il 02/06/2010 10:59, Andrea Musuruane ha scritto: Per chi fosse interessato, ho pubblicato la presentazione su SlideShare: http://www.slideshare.net/musuruan/presentazione-openstreetmap Bellina, complimenti! Ho rilevato un paio di errorini a pag. 32: Corso XXV Aprile → Corso 25 aprile

[OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-02 Per discussione Phil Monger
So I was looking through some cycle books, as you do, when I came across this one (i've hosted the images 3rd party and avoided HTML, if they don't work let me know. I had to snap them on the iPhone - so sorry for the lack of a close focus!!) : http://img249.imageshack.us/i/img0002tw.jpg/ It's a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-02 Per discussione Grant Slater
On 2 June 2010 21:03, Phil Monger phil...@gmail.com wrote: So I was looking through some cycle books, as you do, when I came across this one (i've hosted the images 3rd party and avoided HTML, if they don't work let me know. I had to snap them on the iPhone - so sorry for the lack of a close

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-02 Per discussione SteveC
The LWG has been working with council on similar infringement cases. I suggest this gets added. As an aside, this is exactly what happened to some of my work a few years ago. On Jun 2, 2010, at 2:03 PM, Phil Monger wrote: So I was looking through some cycle books, as you do, when I came

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-02 Per discussione SteveC
That's actually a pretty bad way to resolve the issue, since the publisher is liable for damages and you can absolve them of that and make things far worse by individually contacting or publishing these infringements pre-emptively. Unless you have a law degree. Individuals enforcing

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-02 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Phil, Phil Monger wrote: It's a new cycle book for London, with routes, etc. Pretty standard fare. The problem? All the maps inside are blatant OSM copies (Mapnik, I assume) with route overlays posted. Now this wouldn't be a problem, obviously, except they are way WAY outside of CC-BY-SA.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-02 Per discussione Phil Monger
Frederick, I appreciate your view on this. but I must passionately disagree. Collected works is set up to allow multiple sets of data / licenses to operate together under one bound work. For example, a book of collected maps about London could include OSM as CC-BY-SA but in itself, as a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-02 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, Phil Monger wrote: This is entirely derivative. The maps and route descriptions operate together as *one piece of work* - indeed descriptions of the ways, place names, distances, directions (ect) used in *the text* are taken from *the mapping*. The text couldn't / wouldn't be there

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-02 Per discussione Phil Monger
Well, Frederik, here is a challenge: -Work out a 10 mile cycle trip or walk around your town / city, taking advantage of sights you want to see, streets you know are good for it, ect. Cycle it once or twice, getting distracted and taking twice as long as needed to take photographs on the way

[OSM-talk-nl] Fwd: [Transparency] Open Data, Open Society: a research project about openness of public data in EU local administrations

2010-06-02 Per discussione Ante
Greetings, This is a research project I started this month: http://stop.zona-m.net/active-citizens/open-data-open-society-research- project-about-openness-public-data-eu-local-administ feedback is welcome, of course! Please forward this announcement as much as you see fit. -- Your own civil

[talk-au] China issues new rules on Internet map publishing

2010-06-02 Per discussione John Smith
BEIJING, May 19 -- An updated standard for Internet map servers will be implemented next month to avoid state secrets being disclosed and uncertified maps published online, authorities have said. The new standard issued by the State Bureau of Surveying and Mapping, one year after the first

Re: [talk-au] Making a Laptop GPS

2010-06-02 Per discussione benedikt
I'm using Google Earth (data cashed via script) and my Garmin 60csx connected through GPSgate. The GE cache is limited to 2GB. That's not enough for whole NSW in high res, but for about 20x60km in highest detail level. Looks pretty, works well. Can also use an OSM layer and my private POI

Re: [talk-au] Making a Laptop GPS

2010-06-02 Per discussione John Smith
On 2 June 2010 20:59, Eraina and Richard jenkins richardvk...@gmail.com wrote: I have in mind a project that involves making my old laptop into a large-screen GPS. Maybe someone on this list can refer me to where this has been mentioned before. My OS of choice is linux, but the laptop will

Re: [talk-au] Making a Laptop GPS

2010-06-02 Per discussione Richard Weait
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Eraina and Richard jenkins richardvk...@gmail.com wrote: I have in mind a project that involves making my old laptop into a large-screen GPS.  Maybe someone on this list can refer me to where this has been mentioned before.  My OS of choice is linux, but the

Re: [talk-au] Making a Laptop GPS

2010-06-02 Per discussione Liz
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010, Eraina and Richard jenkins wrote: I have in mind a project that involves making my old laptop into a large-screen GPS. Maybe someone on this list can refer me to where this has been mentioned before. My OS of choice is linux, but the laptop will still run winXP, and there

Re: [talk-au] Making a Laptop GPS

2010-06-02 Per discussione John Smith
On 2 June 2010 21:14, bened...@cortado.de wrote: I'm using Google Earth (data cashed via script) and my Garmin 60csx connected through GPSgate. The GE cache is limited to 2GB. That's not enough for whole NSW in high res, but for about 20x60km in highest detail level. Don't know if you are

Re: [talk-au] Making a Laptop GPS

2010-06-02 Per discussione John Kitchener
Hi Richard, If you're up to XP; why not use Garmin's nRoute plus OSM. Perfect auto-routing moving map. Garmin no longer support or provide downloads for nRoute so have a look at this GPSAustralia post for details: http://www.gpsaustralia.net/forums/showthread.php?t=14411highlight=nroute John

Re: [talk-au] Making a Laptop GPS

2010-06-02 Per discussione Ross Scanlon
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 20:59:29 +1000 Eraina and Richard jenkins richardvk...@gmail.com wrote: I have in mind a project that involves making my old laptop into a large-screen GPS. Maybe someone on this list can refer me to where this has been mentioned before. My OS of choice is linux, but the

Re: [talk-au] Making a Laptop GPS

2010-06-02 Per discussione Sam Couter
Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: Navit does wonderfully on my eeepc 701 - the original tiny one with the modest sized database for all of australia on a SD card runs on Crunchbang Linux which I find sleek enough for the processor I run it on my Nokia n810, which has much more limited resources

[talk-au] Making a laptop Into a Big-Screen GPS (cont.)

2010-06-02 Per discussione Eraina and Richard jenkins
I'm delighted with the replies to my plea for help. The replies lead me to ask two more questions: 1. Where is there a tutorial/howto/whatever for Navit. For me it comes up with a blank screen ... and no maps. I did attempt to download some maps for SE Australia ... so, how do I proceed

Re: [talk-au] Making a laptop Into a Big-Screen GPS (cont.)

2010-06-02 Per discussione John Smith
On 3 June 2010 13:31, Eraina and Richard jenkins richardvk...@gmail.com wrote: 1. Where is there a tutorial/howto/whatever for Navit. For me it comes up with a blank screen ... and no maps. I did attempt to download some maps for SE Australia ... so, how do I proceed from this point??

Re: [talk-au] Making a laptop Into a Big-Screen GPS (cont.)

2010-06-02 Per discussione John Smith
On 3 June 2010 14:00, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 June 2010 13:31, Eraina and Richard jenkins richardvk...@gmail.com wrote: 1. Where is there a tutorial/howto/whatever for Navit. For me it comes up with a blank screen ... and no maps. I did attempt to download

Re: [Talk-de] Wieder ein Scherz von Pfoten_weg_!_ ??

2010-06-02 Per discussione hike39
Hi, hat Dein Parser da Probleme mit dem Rufzeichen ? Chris Hi, höchstens mit dem Ausrufezeichen, siehe '... user=pfoten_weg_!_ ...'. Meine Vermutung ist auch ein Sonderzeichen, das zu Problemen führt. Denn die ganzen Fehlermeldungen, die ich gesehen habe, beinhalten nur Sätze von diesem

Re: [Talk-de] motorway und motorway_link um destinatio n-tag ergänzen

2010-06-02 Per discussione M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 1. Juni 2010 23:17 schrieb steffterra steffte...@me.com: Am 01.06.2010 um 19:35 schrieb Carsten Gerlach: Also laut Tagwatch von gestern kommt der Tag in Europa 3992 mal und in Asien 3 mal vor. Das sollte doch als ausreichend etabliert gelten. selbst im August 2009 (OSMDoc) gab es den Tag

[Talk-de] Landesvermessungsamt NRW

2010-06-02 Per discussione Elmar Burke
Hey, auf http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Kommunikation habe ich gesehen, dass es bereits einen Kontakt mit dem LVA NRW gab. Doch das ist anderthalb Jahre her ;-) Hat seitdem wieder jemand den Status abgefragt? Hintergrund: In den letzten Wochen renne ich von einer Verwaltung zur anderen

Re: [Talk-de] motorway und motorway_link um desti nation-tag ergänzen

2010-06-02 Per discussione Martin Simon
Am 2. Juni 2010 10:28 schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: selbst im August 2009 (OSMDoc) gab es den Tag schon 448 mal, und nochmal ca. 200 mal mit destination1, 2, etc. Habt ihr mal ein Gebiet für mich, in dem es schon destination=* an motorway_link gibt? Ich würde gerne

Re: [Talk-de] motorway und motorway_link um destinatio n-tag ergänzen

2010-06-02 Per discussione Chris66
Am 02.06.2010 12:34, schrieb Martin Simon: Habt ihr mal ein Gebiet für mich, in dem es schon destination=* an motorway_link gibt? z.B. AK MS Süd (43/1), AK Recklinghausen (43/2) Chris ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-de] Unterschied auf wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:route (Deutsch - Englisch)

2010-06-02 Per discussione fly
Leider sind auf den Seiten doch erhebliche Unterschiede was Rollen angeht. zB: link - nur auf englischer Seite stop:number - auf deutsch gestrichen forward:stop - auf Englisch in Richtung des Weges - auf Deutsch in Richtung der Linie Nach was soll ich gehen ? Sowas wie streichen sollte auch

Re: [Talk-de] motorway und motorway_link um desti nation-tag ergänzen

2010-06-02 Per discussione Ana Luisa Paldos Garcia
Die Abfahrten der A38 von Göttingen bis Halle sind auch eingetragen, ich meine das Kreuz Drammetal A7/A38 sowie Kreuz Kassel-Süd (A7/A44) hätte ich auch schon eingetragen. Am 2. Juni 2010 12:58 schrieb Chris66 chris66...@gmx.de: Am 02.06.2010 12:34, schrieb Martin Simon: Habt ihr mal ein

Re: [Talk-de] OSM für Feuerwehr

2010-06-02 Per discussione T. Clormann
Am 30. Mai 2010 13:10 schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: es ist z.B. Vorschrift, dass in jedem größeren Gebäude in jedem Stockwerk mehrere Pläne öffentlich aufgehängt sind (z.B. mit FLuchtwegen, Steigleitungen nass und trocken, Einspeisepunkte, Brandmeldezentrale,

[Talk-de] DOP mit Bodenauflösung 2m für Hausum risse?

2010-06-02 Per discussione Manuel Reimer
Hallo, vom Landesamt für Vermessung und Geoinformation habe ich ein Angebot über DOPs mit Bodenauflösung 2m erhalten. Unsere ganze Gemeinde soll 50 EUR kosten. Wie viele die Daten nutzen dürfen und wie lange so eine Lizenz gilt, ist noch nicht geklärt (davon abgesehen, dass für mich alleine

Re: [Talk-de] DOP mit Bodenauflösung 2m für Hausu mrisse?

2010-06-02 Per discussione Sven Geggus
Manuel Reimer manuel.s...@nurfuerspam.de wrote: Dafür, dass die Daten letztlich durch Steuermittel finanziert erhoben wurden, ist das schon recht engstirnig. Das ist nichts neues, aber es ist eben ein Problem das man politisch lösen muss. Was die Parteien betrifft findet man da allerdings

Re: [Talk-de] DOP mit Bodenauflösung 2m für Haus umrisse?

2010-06-02 Per discussione Markus
Hallo Manuel, vom Landesamt für Vermessung von welchem? DOPs mit Bodenauflösung 2m Diese Auflösung eignet sich nicht zur Erfassung von Hausumrissen: 2m: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Luftbilder_aus_Bayern 15cm: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Luftbilder_aus_Lauf 5cm:

Re: [Talk-de] DOP mit Bodenauflösung 2m für Haus umrisse?

2010-06-02 Per discussione Markus
Am 02.06.2010 17:47, schrieb Markus: 5cm: Muss natürlich heissen: 5cm: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Dortmund/Luftbilder Sorry, Markus ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Bayrische Landesgrenze

2010-06-02 Per discussione Carsten Gerlach
Hallo Markus, Am Mittwoch 02. Juni 2010 00:07:03 schrieb Markus: Wer kann mir aus der Grenz-Relation http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/62549 eine etwas vereinfachte XML machen, mit der man mit OL die bayrische Grenze anzeigen kann? (für z=7..16) (oder vielleicht gibt es sowas

Re: [Talk-de] DOP mit Bodenauflösung 2m für Hausum risse?

2010-06-02 Per discussione Bernd Wurst
Am Mittwoch 02 Juni 2010, 17:14:08 schrieb Manuel Reimer: vom Landesamt für Vermessung und Geoinformation habe ich ein Angebot über DOPs mit Bodenauflösung 2m erhalten. Unsere ganze Gemeinde soll 50 EUR kosten. Wie viele die Daten nutzen dürfen und wie lange so eine Lizenz gilt, ist noch

Re: [Talk-de] motorway und motorway_link um desti nation-tag ergänzen

2010-06-02 Per discussione Carsten Gerlach
Naabend, Am Dienstag 01. Juni 2010 23:17:42 schrieb steffterra: Hast du mal bitte einen link - ich kam nicht auf diese Zahl. Schau mal hier: http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/Europe/De/tags.html Kann man das Suchergebnis nach tag-Kombinationen filtern, sodass z.B. nur motorway_links rauskommen,

Re: [Talk-de] Bayrische Landesgrenze

2010-06-02 Per discussione Tirkon
Markus liste12a4...@gmx.de wrote: Wer kann mir aus der Grenz-Relation http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/62549 eine etwas vereinfachte XML machen, mit der man mit OL die bayrische Grenze anzeigen kann? (für z=7..16) (oder vielleicht gibt es sowas schon irgendwo?) Meinst Du sowas?:

[Talk-de] Re: motorway und motorway_link um de stination-tag ergänzen

2010-06-02 Per discussione steffterra
Am 02.06.2010 um 10:28 schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.c om selbst im August 2009 (OSMDoc) gab es den Tag schon 448 mal, und nochmal ca. 200 mal mit destination1, 2, etc. In welchem Kontext wird denn destination1, destination2, etc. genutzt? Als Fernziel, dann näheres Ziel?

Re: [Talk-de] motorway und motorway_link um destinatio n-tag ergänzen

2010-06-02 Per discussione Chris66
Am 02.06.2010 20:39, schrieb steffterra: In welchem Kontext wird denn destination1, destination2, etc. genutzt? Als Fernziel, dann näheres Ziel? Vermutlich soll es das bedeuten, ich persönlich habe allerdings mit der Semikolonschreibweise gemappt (destination=Hamburg;Bremen) Chris

Re: [Talk-de] DOP mit Bodenauflösung 2m für Hausum risse?

2010-06-02 Per discussione Gehling Marc
Hallo, versucht doch mal den Kontakt zur Energie bzw. Wasserversorger. Die haben auch Luftbilder. Am besten über Mitarbeiter... ;-). Und positive PR können die sicherlich gebrauchen... Den Kontakt zur Verwaltung halte ich für aussichtslos. Vor allem hier in NRW. Mfg Marc Gehling Am

Re: [Talk-de] Eigener Overlay: FOSSGIS-Server oder toolserver.org?

2010-06-02 Per discussione Tirkon
Thomas Ineichen osm.mailingl...@t-i.ch wrote: Wie kommt eigentlich Wikimedia dazu, auch Wiki-fremde Dinge zu unter- stützen? (Ich glaube zumindest nicht, dass mein Layer all zu bald auf einer Wiki-Karte erscheint..) Pure Nächstenliebe? :) Nach meiner Wahrnehmung ist es so gelaufen: Wikipedia

Re: [Talk-de] Eigener Overlay: FOSSGIS-Server oder toolserver.org?

2010-06-02 Per discussione Sven Geggus
Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de wrote: Auf der letzten Fossgis-Konferenz haben dann die beiden Genannten zusammen mit Sven Geggus von OSM einen Vortrag und eine Community Session über die Zusammenarbeit der beiden Projekte abgehalten Das war ein wenig der Konsolidierung der verfügbaren Zeit für

Re: [Talk-de] Eigener Overlay: FOSSGIS-Server oder toolserver.org?

2010-06-02 Per discussione Peter Körner
Am 02.06.2010 22:08, schrieb Tirkon: Man sah es wohl als sinnvolle Investition an, OSM für den Wikipedia Gebrauch zu spiegeln und diesbezügliche Tools laufen zu lassen. Daher wurden die Server angeschafft, IMHO recht kurzerhand. Das Haupt-Ziel ist es, OSM großflächig in die Wikipedia zu

Re: [Talk-de] Wieder ein Scherz von Pfoten_weg_!_ ??

2010-06-02 Per discussione Walter Nordmann
hi, gibt es hier was neues? ich hab in eines meiner osm-files mal den usernamen auf pfoten_weg_!_ geändert - geht immer noch prima. du kannst es ja mal genau umgekehrt machen, das osm-file ist ja ascii und mit (fast) jedem editor deiner wahl editierbar. der username ist fuer mapgen sowieso

Re: [Talk-de] DOP mit Bodenauflösung 2m für Hausu mrisse?

2010-06-02 Per discussione Walter Nordmann
hi, deckt sich genau mit meinen erfahrungen: je höher in der hierarchie man anfragt (gemeinde/kreis/land oder gar bund) um so politischer wird das problem. neu fuer mich ist nur deine erfahrung, dass sich die kleinen auf einmal auf die lvas beziehen. einige von uns haben noch die insgemeine

Re: [Talk-de] motorway und motorway_link um desti nation-tag ergänzen

2010-06-02 Per discussione Carsten Gerlach
Naabend, Am Mittwoch 02. Juni 2010 20:39:55 schrieb steffterra: In welchem Kontext wird denn destination1, destination2, etc. genutzt? Jetzt fällt mir wieder ein, daß Mirko Küster mal erwähnt hat, mit diesem Tag Wegweiser an Radwegen zu versehen, also an Knoten mit information=guidepost.

Re: [Talk-de] motorway und motorway_link um desti nation-tag ergänzen

2010-06-02 Per discussione steffterra
Am 02.06.2010 um 21:41 schrieb Chris66: Am 02.06.2010 20:39, schrieb steffterra: In welchem Kontext wird denn destination1, destination2, etc. genutzt? Als Fernziel, dann näheres Ziel? Vermutlich soll es das bedeuten, ich persönlich habe allerdings mit der Semikolonschreibweise

Re: [Talk-de] motorway und motorway_link um desti nation-tag ergänzen

2010-06-02 Per discussione steffterra
Am 02.06.2010 um 23:37 schrieb Carsten Gerlach: Naabend, Am Mittwoch 02. Juni 2010 20:39:55 schrieb steffterra: In welchem Kontext wird denn destination1, destination2, etc. genutzt? Jetzt fällt mir wieder ein, daß Mirko Küster mal erwähnt hat, mit diesem Tag Wegweiser an Radwegen zu

Re: [Talk-dk] navnedisputs

2010-06-02 Per discussione Freek
On Wednesday 02 June 2010 00:35:37 Morten Kjeldgaard wrote: On 01/06/2010, at 23.37, Freek wrote: Har en af jer kigget ind der? Er det faktisk en haveforening der tilfældigvis også har en brevdueafdeling? Der er ofte flere skilte i selve området med f.e. praktiske oplysninger. Hvilket

[Talk-se] Fwd: Re: Olika gränser

2010-06-02 Per discussione Magnus Österlund
Ursprungligt meddelande Ämne: Re: [Talk-se] Olika gränser Datum: Mon, 31 May 2010 21:16:17 +0200 Från: Magnus Österlund o...@home.se Till: Christoph Matthei christ...@matthei.org Jag har sett samma fenomen i de områdena jag taggar i utifrån ekonomisk karta. Men om

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