Re: [Talk-us] Potential Mechanical Edit to remove access=private from Amazon Logistics driveways in NH

2020-08-17 Thread Tod Fitch
Don’t recall if it was on talk-us or tagging, but yes there was a recent discussion on this. If I recall correctly it seemed access=destination was preferred if you were going to tag an access value. But since a significant number of driveways (nearly all?) are not physically through roads

Re: [Talk-us] Marking structure as damaged or condemned

2020-08-05 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Aug 5, 2020, at 6:11 PM, Eric H. Christensen via Talk-us > wrote: > > Tropical Storm Isaias left several homes in my neighborhood severely damaged > and condemned. Is there a proper way to map these structures? > I would look to the lifecycle prefix [1] but I don’t see a tag prefix

[Talk-us] Import of Orange County, California Buildings and Addresses

2020-07-28 Thread Tod Fitch
I'm planning an import of buildings and addresses for Orange County, California. Information on the proposed import can be found on the wiki at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Orange_County_Building_and_Address_Import This is a one time import using JOSM. A links to the data being imported

[Talk-us] Orange County, California Building and Address Import

2020-07-28 Thread Tod Fitch
it. So, do I continue with my import plan with the next step being creating a new wiki page for it? Or do I wait for ERSI to do an import then verify the quality? I don’t see a way to participate with ERSI listed in the import wiki page they’ve created. Thanks for the guidance! Tod Fitch [1

[Talk-us] Limited import of buildings and addresses for Orange County, California

2020-07-26 Thread Tod Fitch
When I moved to my current city, I walked all the publicly accessible streets within several miles of my house to collect and map address information. And those buildings that I collected address data for I traced outlines using OSM compatible imagery. But there are private gated communities

Re: [Talk-us] Labeling forestry service roads/tracks

2020-07-20 Thread Tod Fitch
Thank you for the clarification. > On Jul 20, 2020, at 6:08 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: > > The legend is just for the USFS road layer that is served by Mapbox on JOSM. > signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP ___ Talk-us mailing list

Re: [Talk-us] Labeling forestry service roads/tracks

2020-07-20 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Jul 20, 2020, at 4:48 PM, Tod Fitch wrote: > > >> On Jul 20, 2020, at 4:35 PM, Clifford Snow > <mailto:cliff...@snowandsnow.us>> wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 3:46 AM > <mailto:tj-osmw...@lowsnr.net>> wrote: >> Clifford,

Re: [Talk-us] Labeling forestry service roads/tracks

2020-07-20 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Jul 20, 2020, at 4:35 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 3:46 AM > wrote: > Clifford, > > Could you repost the legend? It's hard/impossible to make out the > surface reliably from aerial photos. > > Sure - here is a link >

Re: [Talk-us] access=private on driveways (was: Deleting tiger:reviewed=no/addr:street for routes)

2020-07-13 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Jul 13, 2020, at 10:52 AM, Jmapb wrote: > (Trying once again to change this thread subject!) > > I'm also in the "worry about it" camp. > > To me, it's sad to see a mapper go to all the trouble of fixing the routing > to the house https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/263869602 >

Re: [Talk-us] Streaming JOSM -- suggestions?

2020-07-07 Thread Tod Fitch
On Jul 7, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Tod Fitch wrote: > > One thing that I only recently figured out: You can include a search for > > your OSM user ID in the Overpass query. That might help to find roads > > you’ve edited in the past so you can remove the tiger:reviewed tag. > >

Re: [Talk-us] Streaming JOSM -- suggestions?

2020-07-07 Thread Tod Fitch
One thing that I only recently figured out: You can include a search for your OSM user ID in the Overpass query. That might help to find roads you’ve edited in the past so you can remove the tiger:reviewed tag. I am using that to find all those highway=stop I mapped back when the Wiki said

Re: [Talk-us] Is summit register something that is often found in USA mountains?

2020-06-24 Thread Tod Fitch
Summit registers are fairly common on the higher peaks in California. > On Jun 24, 2020, at 12:07 PM, Mike Thompson wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 1:03 PM Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us > mailto:talk-us@openstreetmap.org>> wrote: > > > > Is summit register something that is often

Re: [Talk-us] USGS Topo layer for JOSM?

2020-06-14 Thread Tod Fitch
enstreetmap.de/wiki/Maps/Worldwide?action=diff=101_version=100 > > <https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Maps/Worldwide?action=diff=101_version=100> > > > > > > > -Brandon > > > > From: Mike Thompson mailto:miketh...@gmail.com>> > Sent: Saturday,

[Talk-us] USGS Topo layer for JOSM?

2020-06-14 Thread Tod Fitch
Sometime pretty recently the USGS topographic map layer disappeared from JOSM and I don’t even see it in the available layers to add back in. I don’t use it a lot, but when I want to verify the direction of flow of a stream, etc. it comes in very useful. Is it just my configuration having a

[Talk-us] Off-highway vehicle recreation areas

2020-06-05 Thread Tod Fitch
I have noticed a couple of off-highway vehicle recreation areas that are tagged with things that seem incorrect to me: As generic parks or as protected areas. Consider the Hungry Valley State Vehicle Recreation Area [1][2][3][4] and the Wildomar OHV Area [5][6]. My problem is that I can’t tell

Re: [Talk-us] USGS Topos, "Draw", "Gulch", etc.

2020-06-01 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Jun 1, 2020, at 10:59 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 12:57 PM Mike Thompson > wrote: > Do the names on the USGS Topo Maps that end in "Draw", "Gulch", and similar > terms refer to a stream, or a valley? I have always assumed a stream, and

[Talk-us] Tagging historic US routes

2020-03-05 Thread Tod Fitch
This weekend I drove part of AZ-79 and noticed that Arizona has now put up some “Historic US 80” signage. On the sections of highway I drove, every occurrence of a AZ-79 route marker now also has a historic US-80 route marker. (Back in the day that highway was dual signed as US-80 and US-89 but

Re: [Talk-us] Mapping for emergency services

2020-02-05 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Feb 5, 2020, at 12:32 PM, Mike N wrote: > > On 2/5/2020 9:49 AM, Eric Christensen via Talk-us wrote: > >> For the record, my team(s) has many cartographic resources at our >> fingertips that we can use for search and rescue including, but not >> limited to: USGS 7.5' maps, National Park

[Talk-us] USFS trail/road/route numbers

2020-01-07 Thread Tod Fitch
In my area there seems to be a mix of how the US Forest Service route numbers are tagged on roads and trails. The main variations seem to be: name=“Forest Route 9N24” name=“FR 9N24” alt_name=“Forest Route 9N24” alt_name=“FR 9N24” ref=“FR 9N24” ref=“9N24” Things I’ve seen in the wiki that might

Re: [Talk-us] Jefferson Notch Road and latest "GPS made me do it" in the news

2020-01-01 Thread Tod Fitch
In the California Sierra Nevada I tagged a couple of roads with: conditional:access=“no @ (Nov-May)” note=“Seasonal closure from first snow until spring, see CalTrans website for status” website=“http://www.dot.ca.gov/cgi-bin/roads.cgi” With the barrier=gate at either end of the seasonal

Re: [Talk-us] Alt_names on counties

2019-12-27 Thread Tod Fitch
Based on this discussion and my own checking to see what search engines are doing with the data, I think it would be okay to move the alt_name tag value to be a short_name value for the counties in California and Arizona where the current alt_name tag is the same string as the name but without

Re: [Talk-us] Alt_names on counties

2019-12-26 Thread Tod Fitch
> that the mapper added the alt_name so that searches would be successful. > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/78850121 > <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/78850121> > > On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 6:26 PM Tod Fitch <mailto:t...@fitchfamily.org>> wrot

[Talk-us] Wilderness areas separate from forest?

2019-12-25 Thread Tod Fitch
If I am looking at the map data correctly, it seem that at least some designated wilderness areas are excluded from the forest that they are in. For example the Chumash Wilderness [1] seems to have its border as an outer on the Los Padres National Forest [2]. This does not seem correct to me.

[Talk-us] Alt_names on counties

2019-12-25 Thread Tod Fitch
I’ve noticed that a number of counties in California and Arizona have what seems to be unneeded alt_name tags in their boundary relations. For example Pima County, Arizona has name=“Pima County” and alt_name=“Pima”. Same for Pinal County in Arizona and Riverside, Orange, Kern and Ventura

Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] Trunk VS primary,

2019-12-20 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Dec 20, 2019, at 5:25 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > What I'm saying is highway=bundesstraße could be acceptable, but > straße=bundestraße wouldn't be. Mostly so way type objects with highway=* > are still potentially routable. I sure wouldn’t want to be the person in charge of

Re: [Talk-us] confusing state of USFS trail names in Oregon

2019-12-19 Thread Tod Fitch
In my area there are variations on the Forest Service signs as well (“Ice House Canyon Trail” vs “Icehouse Canyon Trail” and “Chiquito Trail” vs “Chiquita Trail” are two examples that come to mind). I suspect some of the variations are due to changes in spelling, etc. over time so the older

Re: [Talk-us] Alaska Highway AK-2 tagging

2019-12-16 Thread Tod Fitch
My reading of the wiki indicates that for the United States a trunk is “a high speed Arterial Divided highway that is partially grade separated.” [1] What is the problem with having the main road between regions/cities/towns being “primary”? Do you like the rendering of trunk better? For

Re: [Talk-us] trail tagging

2019-04-19 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Apr 19, 2019, at 7:28 AM, brad wrote: > > Everywhere I've been in the US or Canada a dirt 'way' too narrow for a 4 > wheel vehicle is called a trail, path, or single track. For the most part > they are appropriately (IMO) tagged as path. Unfortunately the wiki says > this for

Re: [Talk-us] motel vs. hotel

2019-03-08 Thread Tod Fitch
For me the difference is interior hallway to access room (hotel) vs exterior access to each room (motel). On March 8, 2019 4:47:33 PM PST, Peter Dobratz wrote: >How do you distinguish between the tourism=hotel and tourism=motel >tags? > >The criteria that I was imagining is that a motel is a

Re: [Talk-us] California is too big ;)

2018-11-06 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Nov 6, 2018, at 1:58 PM, OSM Volunteer stevea > wrote: > > Taken "straight across the state" (west to east), following the political > boundaries of "the northern edges of three counties" (admin_level=6) to break > up a state (admin_level=4), it's both easy (technically, simply "10

Re: [Talk-us] California is too big ;)

2018-11-06 Thread Tod Fitch
en I split something in smaller > files is the free shape downloads - these are only available for the > "leaves" of the tree, i.e. the smallest regional units. > > On 06.11.2018 13:58, Tod Fitch wrote: >> In any case, I assume a good description of the extract boundaries

Re: [Talk-us] California is too big ;)

2018-11-06 Thread Tod Fitch
I detested the “Six Californias” when it was being proposed as a ballot measure. Perhaps that is flavoring my response, but at one time or another I’ve generated topo maps for areas that lie within four of those six divisions so it would be a bit of a hassle for me to have that. If a split

Re: [Talk-us] Maximum number of tasks on US tasker

2018-05-08 Thread Tod Fitch
Most residential roads in my area are unstriped but are definitely built for two lanes of traffic (one in each direction). It seems perfectly reasonable to me to tag them with lanes=2 as they are designed to take two lanes of traffic. In fact, as part of some traffic calming measures a number

Re: [Talk-us] Undiscussed mass-revert by user Nakaner-repair

2018-04-20 Thread Tod Fitch
Thank you Michael for your thorough history of the situation. I think it clearly explains what has happened and is still happening. I personally am not sure how to go forward. I suppose that there will always be mappers who are not following good practices and I suppose that those who are paid to

Re: [Talk-us] Rural US: Correcting Original TIGER Imported Ways

2018-02-12 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Feb 12, 2018, at 12:11 PM, OSM Volunteer stevea > wrote: > > Clifford Snow wrote >> How many of the TIGER imported streets are still untouched? > > Thanks for rallying us with this great thrust forward, Clifford, with > excellent

Re: [Talk-us] Looking for GPS with voice annotation?

2018-02-10 Thread Tod Fitch
I used to use OsmTracker to voice record addresses but found that the back end, entering the data into JOSM, was slow and problematic. Passing cars or other sources of sound often made my spoken number very hard to understand. And for every number I had to play the recording, create a point,

Re: [Talk-us] Comparing Tiger 2017 dataset with OSM in a automatedway.

2017-10-26 Thread Tod Fitch
In the area I now live in California, my first impression looking at this is that the data is garbage. It looks to me that blindly importing would re-introduce TIGER errors that have been successfully removed. Looking at a tiny area in Arizona where my family still has a house, it is not much

Re: [Talk-us] Tracking Redaction Review

2017-10-13 Thread Tod Fitch
I’ve completed adding Tiger 2017 names to the roads in Arizona. And I’ve updated your spreadsheet to reflect the completion. That was a much bigger job than I wanted to do but I just couldn’t stand seeing all those roads named “chdr_USA_AZ_name_fixup_required”. I’ve probably made a few

Re: [Talk-us] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-10-10 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Oct 10, 2017, at 9:37 AM, Shawn K. Quinn <skqu...@rushpost.com> wrote: > > On 10/10/2017 10:10 AM, Tod Fitch wrote: >> I am inclined to simply delete the name if Tiger 2017 has no name. That will >> do two things: 1. Make the map and routing less wrong. And 2. Al

Re: [Talk-us] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-10-10 Thread Tod Fitch
> Just mentioning this so if anyone's doing anything like tasking manager > work, they'll know they need to special-case AZ. > > On Mon, Oct 09, 2017 at 09:21:59AM -0700, Tod Fitch wrote: >> FYI, >> >> No redactions in Oregon, Arizona or Utah. I’ve added Tiger 2017 names

Re: [Talk-us] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-10-09 Thread Tod Fitch
;> I’ve got to restrain myself from correcting geometry, adding surface, lanes, >> turn lanes, etc. while I do this. :) >> >> Tod >> >>> On Oct 9, 2017, at 9:01 AM, Tod Fitch <t...@fitchdesign.com> wrote: >>> >>> Looks like there are a

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-10-08 Thread Tod Fitch
FYI, I reviewed the ways with redacted names in California (all in San Diego County) and where possible set the names per Tiger 2017 data. In most cases the names set by chdr matched the Tiger names but there were some exceptions. There are a roads that did not have names showing in the Tiger

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk

2017-10-05 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Oct 5, 2017, at 8:05 PM, Richie Kennedy wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: >> >> To my mind these are highway=primary mainly because of at-grade >> intersections.. >> I am still confused about what makes a trunk

Re: [Talk-us] Center turn lane mapping

2017-10-03 Thread Tod Fitch
I switched from using the centre_turn_lane tag to using the turn:lanes tagging when I discovered the turn lanes plugin for JOSM. Between that plugin and the change:lanes plugin I think it is much easier and clearer to tag lanes, including center turn lanes, that it was not too long ago. Only

Re: [Talk-us] I 85 Express Lane (Atlanta, Georgia)

2017-09-24 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Sep 24, 2017, at 5:22 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote: > > On 22/09/2017 09:46, Jack Burke wrote: >> My questions are: >> * Should this lane be drawn as a separate way? Legally, you cannot enter or >> exit the lane except at the designated sections, so drawing it

Re: [Talk-us] I-69 east west vs north south

2017-09-21 Thread Tod Fitch
I don’t have direct knowledge of I-69 but the numbering on the Interstate system has odd numbers for north-south routes, so having all of I-69 in north and south relations seems correct to me. I have seen area where due to topography long stretches of north-south road actually go east-west.

Re: [Talk-us] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-08-27 Thread Tod Fitch
Drucker Lane, San Diego TIGER 2015 155532857,"California","United States of America" Via Verrazzano, San Diego TIGER 2015 155532858,"California","United States of America" Via Verrazzano, San Diego TIGER 2015 158079931,"Cali

Re: [Talk-us] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-08-27 Thread Tod Fitch
There was a (poorly) done import of house numbers done in San Diego county a long while back. Data from that import usually has a source tag of "SanGIS Addresses Public Domain (http://www.sangis.org/)”. I think a reasonable check for some of the questionable street names in that area could be

Re: [Talk-us] Contacting local mappers or posting a note to "mappers in area". How to. Etiquette. Horseshoe Bend, ID,

2017-08-25 Thread Tod Fitch
Mozilla Location services and open cell ID share data. You can down load the Mozilla database as a CSV file. That will have the lat/lon and identification of every cell tower they know about. You can also download it from open cell I'd but you need an api key for them. On August 25, 2017

Re: [Talk-us] natural=* and landuse=* multipolygons at the urban interface

2017-08-15 Thread Tod Fitch
not to touch it. Tod Fitch (n76 on OSM) > On Aug 15, 2017, at 6:37 AM, Steve Friedl <st...@unixwiz.net> wrote: > > The challenge with the Scrub from Hell is that it’s mostly one huge area > (role=outer in 8 segments) and 40 or something role=inner that provide > “cutouts” for thin

Re: [Talk-us] Best practice in Lane Editing 3

2017-07-13 Thread Tod Fitch
to indicate where the turn lane > starts, not 200 feet later (esp. in heavy traffic and the lane's already full > of cars). > > Whether it's practical to map it like that or not is another matter. > > On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 9:40 AM Tod Fitch <t...@fitchdesign.com >

Re: [Talk-us] Best practice in Lane Editing 3

2017-07-13 Thread Tod Fitch
Case 1: First example is much closer to how I would tag it based on the the rule that it should not be a separate way if it is only separated by paint. Case 2: I would not expect the two paths to be considered safe or legal where I live in the US (not in Michigan). While there is some effort at

Re: [Talk-us] SEO Damage to OSM

2017-06-30 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Jun 30, 2017, at 2:06 PM, Simon Poole wrote: > > Am 30.06.2017 um 22:59 schrieb Ian Dees: >> First of all, that's Mapbox's data team that made the changes since the SEO >> editor added junk, not Telenav, > > Sorry, but making about a dozen edits on a road (including

Re: [Talk-us] Best practice in Lane Editing 2

2017-06-19 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Jun 19, 2017, at 4:20 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > In this case, with the dual-direction turn lane, I would label that with > lanes:both_ways=1 and turn:lanes:both_ways=left. If the center lane has two > solid lines (making it a flush median), then lanes:both_ways=1

Re: [Talk-us] Speed limit editing in Detroit

2017-05-06 Thread Tod Fitch
> On May 6, 2017, at 1:11 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 3:07 AM, Paul Johnson > wrote: > > > On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 7:55 AM, Horea Meleg

Re: [Talk-us] Is this a bad import or an experiment?

2017-03-22 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Mar 22, 2017, at 4:05 PM, Bill Ricker wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 6:02 PM, Clifford Snow > wrote: >> I map driveway when the house is set a distance from the main road, often >> time when the house can't be seen from the road. Mainly

Re: [Talk-us] Available Building Footprints

2017-03-22 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Mar 22, 2017, at 10:02 AM, Ian Dees wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Brad Neuhauser > wrote: > I think this is it? > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Available_Building_Footprints >

Re: [Talk-us] Is this a bad import or an experiment?

2017-03-22 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Mar 22, 2017, at 4:59 AM, Ian Dees wrote: > > > > On Mar 22, 2017 7:49 AM, "Paul Johnson" > wrote: > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 6:33 AM, Eric Ladner > wrote: >

[Talk-us] Am I wrong to be bothered by this?

2017-01-05 Thread Tod Fitch
I monitor a number of places I’ve done mapping in and suspect I’ll be back to in the future. Today I noticed a change set that covers nearly all of California and Nevada [1]. It looks like this same mapper has even done some changes that span continents [2]. I guess I prefer geographically

Re: [Talk-us] Relation roles: Clockwise and Counterclockwise route directions? (e.g. Pittsburgh's Belts)

2016-12-26 Thread Tod Fitch
Not sure about the beltway example, but I prefer having one relation for each direction of a highway and then a super relation to tie those two together. That avoids the issues you pointed out earlier where one direction may take a slip/link while the other direction does not. It also makes it

Re: [Talk-us] Okanogan-Wenatchee National Forest (landuse=forest and US National forests again)

2016-11-29 Thread Tod Fitch
My take: landuse=forest ==> Managed for wood, timber, lumber, paper production, etc. natural=wood ==> Its got trees on it. May be managed for recreation, watershed, endangered species, etc. or it may not managed at all. My preferred take, not fully accepted by the wiki or tagging list but

Re: [Talk-us] Check your turn:lanes

2016-08-24 Thread Tod Fitch
I’m of half a mind to use a script to find the edits in my area where they changed something like “left|none|none|” to “left||” and then revert them manually. I know they are both officially acceptable variations but for those of us editing by hand counting the occurrences of “|none” to make

[Talk-us] Water in bays, harbors, etc.

2016-08-21 Thread Tod Fitch
During a day kayaking I noticed that the OSM map in the area was less than perfect so I thought I’d see what I could do to improve it. But I have not worked on this type of feature very much and am a little uncertain of some tagging details. The area is a “back bay”, a tidal area with some

Re: [Talk-us] TopOSM

2016-05-21 Thread Tod Fitch
> On May 21, 2016, at 7:06 AM, Lars Ahlzen wrote: > > On 05/20/2016 10:58 PM, Richard Welty wrote: >> On 5/20/16 9:24 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: >>> I was just on TopOSM [1] which appears to be very outdated. Does >>> anyone know who maintains this site? >>> >>> [1]

Re: [Talk-us] Dual carriage way?

2016-05-14 Thread Tod Fitch
> On May 14, 2016, at 9:13 AM, Eric Ladner wrote: > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/30.0752/-90.5123 > > This section of West Airline Hwy was probably imported from Tiger as a dual > carriage way. > > This section is two lanes in either direction with a center

Re: [Talk-us] mapRe: (Second attempt) Potential data source: Adirondack Park Freshwater Wetlands

2016-03-19 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Mar 16, 2016, at 3:12 PM, Andy Townsend wrote: > > . . . Another question - if not OSM, what maps do hikers in the area use now? > Something from the US Forest Service, or something else? The reason I ask > is that in GB the generally excellent "Ordnance Survey"

Re: [Talk-us] mapRe: (Second attempt) Potential data source: Adirondack Park Freshwater Wetlands

2016-03-14 Thread Tod Fitch
Ditto to Mike’s comments. I’ve been dealing with the clean up of bad imports, usually TIGER but others too, where ever I map so I think I understand where people like Frederick are coming from. But I also see the reality in the U.S. of huge geographical areas with very few OSM mappers. An all

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports-us] Virginia Beach, Virginia Imports

2016-03-02 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Mar 1, 2016, at 11:58 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > > Is there a community that can be counted on to make sure the data > doesn't rot in OSM once imported - or will you commit to that? > Is this really a serious objection? If so then perhaps I should not map areas I

[Talk-us] How to tag Edible Arrangements?

2016-03-02 Thread Tod Fitch
There is an Edible Arrangements [1] shop near by that I tagged with only name and and the phone number found on the door. I could not figure out what type of shop it ought to be tagged with. Now I am cleaning up issues in my area noted by some of the QA tools and that has been flagged as

Re: [Talk-us] Smartphone App that searches OSM addresses?

2016-01-09 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Jan 9, 2016, at 7:49 PM, Mike N wrote: > > In the case where a county completely revamps its road network and addressing > scheme for E911 purposes, then authorizes its road and address data to OSM, > and it's properly imported, are there any Smartphone apps for both

Re: [Talk-us] QA tool to find duplicate addresses?

2015-12-06 Thread Tod Fitch
Thank you. Turns out that you also need to select more than just severity 1 to get the check box to display that. But I’ve got it book marked now. > On Dec 6, 2015, at 5:26 PM, Simon Poole wrote: > > I believe "Street numbers" is what you need to select. >

Re: [Talk-us] QA tool to find duplicate addresses?

2015-12-06 Thread Tod Fitch
:housenumber"="315") "addr:street"="Sunrise Drive" ("addr:housenumber"="1857") "addr:street"="Townsite Drive" ("addr:housenumber"="225") "addr:street"="Truly Terrace" ("

Re: [Talk-us] QA tool to find duplicate addresses?

2015-12-06 Thread Tod Fitch
Figured out the link to the English version where the filter says “duplicate object”. I don’t see any other check boxes that look like the will find this type of error. > On Dec 6, 2015, at 5:09 PM, Tod Fitch <t...@fitchdesign.com> wrote: > > My German is really bad. I assume t

[Talk-us] QA tool to find duplicate addresses?

2015-12-06 Thread Tod Fitch
I’ve come across data from an old address import that seems to have numerous duplicate addresses. It would be nice to point JOSM to the places with the most problems rather than to just randomly choose a place for editing. It looks like there is a tool that identifies places with duplicate

Re: [Talk-us] San Diego Address Import Update

2015-11-10 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Nov 10, 2015, at 5:59 AM, Greg Troxel <g...@ir.bbn.com> wrote: > > > Tod Fitch <t...@fitchdesign.com> writes: > >> What is a “city” in US specific OSM terms? >> >> I prefer a postal city definition as that is the most useful for >&g

Re: [Talk-us] San Diego Address Import Update

2015-11-09 Thread Tod Fitch
I think you are referring to this change set: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/3411425 I noticed errors in it the other week when adding a restaurant in Pine Valley and noted on the mail list: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2015-November/015634.html It appears to me

Re: [Talk-us] San Diego Address Import Update

2015-11-09 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Nov 9, 2015, at 8:42 PM, Richard Welty wrote: > > maybe but i would do some more research before making an assumption. > i'm aware of many postal city addresses that are in different counties > than the > "real" cities and i believe there are at least 4 cases where

Re: [Talk-us] San Diego Address Import Update

2015-11-09 Thread Tod Fitch
ger <hans.dekryge...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I noticed some of that, was hoping it wasn't everywhere. Is this any way to > target an area with a bot inside each city administration line and change the > city to the right one or does that need to be done manually? > > On Nov

Re: [Talk-us] San Diego Address Import Update

2015-11-09 Thread Tod Fitch
Perhaps true in general, but in this specific case the administrative boundary for San Diego (1) is quite a long way from the post office in Pine Valley (2)(3) and the Pine Valley post office is most likely to have a postal name of “Pine Valley” as displayed on the front of the building (right

[Talk-us] San Diego county addresses

2015-11-05 Thread Tod Fitch
east the addresses adjacent to the business I added seem reasonable), just the addr:city tag appears wrong in this case. Suggestions for improving this would be appreciated. Tod Fitch n76___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstre

[Talk-us] Desert wash that is also vehicle track or path?

2015-10-28 Thread Tod Fitch
Drove AZ77 today and did some updates on it based on what I noticed. But when editing came across this area: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/32.62940/-110.73953 The Cherry Wash Trail, for example, is a intermittent (ephemeral

Re: [Talk-us] Desert wash that is also vehicle track or path?

2015-10-28 Thread Tod Fitch
I have worked with multipolygon relations and with route relations, but I am unfamiliar with a relation for a single stream or highway way. What type(s) would those relations be? > On Oct 28, 2015, at 4:31 PM, Greg Troxel <g...@ir.bbn.com> wrote: > > > Tod Fitch <t...@fi

Re: [Talk-us] Downgrading 'motorways' around toll plazas?

2015-10-13 Thread Tod Fitch
That is possible. And a fix in Osmand is relatively easy (edit routing.xml to set the assumed/default *_link speed to about 1/2 that of the assumed/default speed of associated non-link way). Can be further improved by setting all the assumed speeds to match the real world defaults in your part

Re: [Talk-us] Should driveways be on OSM?

2015-09-28 Thread Tod Fitch
If the driveway is long enough, or if it is shared, I think it is a good idea to have them in the map (highway=service, service=driveway). In many areas that I’ve mapped it would be the only hope for someone to use OSM to navigate to a specific address. And on most map rendering the service

Re: [Talk-us] Request revert on Changeset #33669446

2015-09-02 Thread Tod Fitch
It is my understanding that when you see a CalTrans “Begin Freeway” sign it is indicating the section ahead is free of cross traffic (no intersections without grade separation and on/off ramps). That is, freeway implies limited access. And when you see a “End Freeway” sign there will be

Re: [Talk-us] U turn restrictions in areas

2015-08-18 Thread Tod Fitch
There are a number of traffic laws that are not always posted and vary for each administrative area. U-turns in Oregon, prima-facia speed limits in most of the US, etc. I think there should be a way of tagging the bounding polygon or boundary relation with that information to see the defaults a

Re: [Talk-us] Tagging National Forests

2015-08-18 Thread Tod Fitch
On Aug 18, 2015, at 4:17 PM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: Torsten Karzig wrote: Remove the landuse=forest tag except for regions that are clearly used for forestry. Now, slow down here. It has been (and is, I argue) quite reasonable to tag National Forests

Re: [Talk-us] Tagging National Forests

2015-08-17 Thread Tod Fitch
The issue, as I see it, is that the OSM landuse=forest means that all the land so designated is used for timber production. Thus the long discussions about natural=wood, landcover=trees, etc. In the case of the US National Forests, the boundaries are still tagged with boundary=national_park,

Re: [Talk-us] Tagging National Forests

2015-08-17 Thread Tod Fitch
I have seen lots of “bike shedding” on this and I am of the opinion that landuse=forest should be removed from the US national forest boundary relations. But I was unaware that a consensus had been achieved. If it has, perhaps the wiki page at

Re: [Talk-us] Tagging National Forests

2015-08-17 Thread Tod Fitch
Unfortunately the magnifying glass is hidden away someplace so my old microprint copy of the Oxford English Dictionary is hard to read. I see “An extensive tract of land covered with trees and undergrowth, sometimes intermingled with pasture.”, Or “A woodland district, usually belonging to the

Re: [Talk-us] Am I mapping this wrong, or should the router be fixed for this?

2015-07-27 Thread Tod Fitch
On Jul 27, 2015, at 8:58 AM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.com wrote: I've been normally mapping slip lanes as '_link' highways at intersections since the beginning. However, as most fellow US mappers know, they almost never have 'speed limits' posted for them, and that seems to help

Re: [Talk-us] Am I doing this right? Houses w/ addresses

2015-04-13 Thread Tod Fitch
My few trial uses of Vespucci lead me to believe that I need an data connection while using it. Am I wrong? With OsmPad, KeyPad or OSMtracker I can collect data while off line which is very important to me. Cheers, Tod On Apr 13, 2015, at 2:02 AM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: IMHO

Re: [Talk-us] Am I doing this right? Houses w/ addresses

2015-04-11 Thread Tod Fitch
As to the first: Yes, definitely a great job of mapping address house numbers! As to gathering numbers: I’ve gone through several iterations on collecting data. At first I was using a walking papers style method complete with people asking me what I was doing and, in one case, calling the

Re: [Talk-us] Facts about the world

2015-04-04 Thread Tod Fitch
Many areas of the western US are sparsely populated. Not only are there few mappers per square mile, there are simply very few people per square mile. I map were I visit. But in more than a few cases I may only visit and area once. This could lead to the same issue you worry about for imports:

Re: [Talk-us] Facts about the world

2015-04-04 Thread Tod Fitch
On Apr 4, 2015, at 1:36 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Indeed. I don't have much exposure to US Americans outside of OSM but in the few interactions like that I had, if people did have any conception about OSM it usually fell into one of the two categories I mentioned -

Re: [Talk-us] Facts about the world

2015-04-03 Thread Tod Fitch
On Apr 3, 2015, at 5:18 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: . . . It seems to me that in the USA, what people think about OSM is one of these two: (a) A project for hackers and couch potatoes who trawl their county web pages and other sources to look for stuff they could upload

Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for high-density residential areas

2015-03-31 Thread Tod Fitch
On Mar 31, 2015, at 10:07 AM, Steve Friedl st...@unixwiz.net wrote: Hi all, I’ve been doing OSM for around a month, and have been mainly focusing on my local neighborhood in Foothill Ranch (Orange County in Southern California). As a kind of showcase I'm going quite hyperbolic with

Re: [Talk-us] Elevation in local units

2015-03-24 Thread Tod Fitch
For what it is worth, I’ve become used to looking at distances on topo maps in meters/kilometers as that is what the UTM grid is on USGS topos but I just can’t deal with elevation in meters. Maybe for relative elevations (I’ve got another 500 meters vertical to go is almost okay, but very

Re: [Talk-us] Retagging hamlets in the US

2015-03-17 Thread Tod Fitch
On Mar 17, 2015, at 8:06 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Bryan Housel br...@7thposition.com wrote: Brand new anonymous users come to the map every day and are confused by what these hamlets are. proof: https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/163246 I kind of doubt

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Your opinion about SOTM US

2015-03-11 Thread Tod Fitch
On Mar 11, 2015, at 8:00 PM, Mike Thompson wrote: The editor visits a site which accesses the JOSM remote control protocol. They fix up the TIGER date and indicate Yes, I'm done or Needs more work, and after a couple of Yes votes, it gets taken out of rotation. Sounds similar to the HOT

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