Re: [Talk-us] Import licensing waiver

2020-10-09 Thread Richard Welty
i'm personally wary of "no objection"; it's not really an explicit grant and there is no certainty about whether an objection might arise later. i would say that probably there were no lawyers involved in phrasing that statement. richard On 10/9/20 2:05 PM, lobstereat...@airmail.cc wrote: > Ok,

Re: [Talk-us] Recent Trunk road edits

2020-09-28 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/28/20 12:39 PM, Jack Burke wrote: > Related: if it's I-## or I-###, shouldn't it be a highway=motorway, > period? (Unless those, for some reason, are ever *not* freeways?) in the lower 48, most of the time an Interstate designation is a motorway. but there can be exceptions.

Re: [Talk-us] Recent Trunk road edits

2020-09-28 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/28/20 12:39 PM, Jack Burke wrote: >   I *am* trying to say that they should be highway=trunk.  My > use of the term "freeway" to describe them was artistic in nature, to > describe how it feels actually driving on them.   That's all. sometimes, such as in NYS, the formal road classification

Re: [Talk-us] Mapping for emergency services

2020-02-03 Thread Richard Welty
a major selling point can focus on out of district response; often FDs know their own area well, but when they go to support other companies they often don't know a whole lot about the place they're responding to. richard On 2/3/20 6:59 PM, Mike N wrote: > Mike, > It is a rather unique set

[Talk-us] heads up: exit numbers in NY state

2019-06-07 Thread Richard Welty
new york is in the proces of (finally) converting exit numbers to match mileages. OSMers traveling in NY can help out by paying attention and updating when they see it. changes on I-84 are reportedly happening now. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS & IT Consulting

Re: [Talk-us] Online mappy hour

2019-03-18 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/18/19 1:05 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > Hi all, > > You may remember that I hosted online ‘virtual mappy hours’ a few years ago. > > I thought it was nice and I want to resume them. i liked them and am happy to see their return. > How does next Thursday 6pm PDT / 9pm EDT sound? I’m

Re: [Talk-us] armchair mappers putting errors back into the map

2019-03-03 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/3/19 1:06 PM, Andy Townsend wrote: > On 03/03/2019 16:09, Richard Welty wrote: >> what can/should we be doing about this sort of stuff? i'm really >> at a bit of a loss here. >> > Aside from the excellent technical suggestion that's already been made, > I'd

Re: [Talk-us] armchair mappers putting errors back into the map

2019-03-03 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/3/19 11:47 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > I also don't make risky armchair edit in areas with active local mappers. > > --- > > Is "NYS GIS data" something that can be considered nearly error free? If > not then > it should not be used for edits without verification with at least >

[Talk-us] armchair mappers putting errors back into the map

2019-03-03 Thread Richard Welty
we've talked about this before, i guess we will never stop talking about it. i recently noticed in my OSMAnd display that an error got put back into the map about 1 mile from where i live. a short dead end was put in as a residential road (it's really an unnamed driveway) based on NYS GIS data. i

Re: [Talk-us] NYC Name Vandalism

2018-08-31 Thread Richard Welty
On 8/31/18 5:58 AM, Rihards wrote: > > It gives us the same press as some vandals messing with wikipedia - > let's not see it as a worse thing than it is. > > As a sidenote, this was detected and revert in OSM in a day. If data > consumers would update the data more frequently, the impact would be

Re: [Talk-us] ref=* tags on links

2018-08-24 Thread Richard Welty
On 8/24/18 3:15 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > This is a criticism I've had about the Standard renderer for a while > now.  Andy Allan's rendering refs from relations.  Osmand is rendering > refs from relations.  Magic Earth is rendering refs from relations.  > Pretty sure Mapbox and Rand McNally are

Re: [Talk-us] Drop the tiger:reviewed tag from roads

2018-05-11 Thread Richard Welty
On 5/11/18 2:00 PM, Doug Hembry wrote: > So I cast a vote for keeping it. At least don't mechanically remove them > all, everywhere. i still use the reviewed tags for guidance as well, and would prefer that they stick around. i remove them when i've reviewed a road carefully (name, connectivity,

Re: [Talk-us] Rural US: Correcting Original TIGER Imported Ways

2018-02-22 Thread Richard Welty
On 2/22/18 11:57 AM, Greg Troxel wrote: >> For the US, however, you'd want to do something other than just >> "downgrading to track".  There are a couple of options I suspect: > In the US, treating an unpaved road as "track" does not seem right. > Besides the surface issue, there is a very strong

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports-us] New to lists and would like to suggest some imports

2018-01-08 Thread Richard Welty
first things first. the import guidelines are here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines second, the licensing is critical. make absolutely sure that the state has a clear statement of public domain, CC0 or equivalent license. probably the most valuable import would be

Re: [Talk-us] note to armchair mappers about NYS routes & ref tags

2017-12-08 Thread Richard Welty
On 12/7/17 6:42 PM, Richard Welty wrote: > Follow up - i received no reply from the mapper in question (message > sent on 29 November), so i sent him a followup indicating i was starting > to make the changes and have started working on it. i will fix the two that > i'm aware

Re: [Talk-us] note to armchair mappers about NYS routes & ref tags

2017-12-07 Thread Richard Welty
Follow up - i received no reply from the mapper in question (message sent on 29 November), so i sent him a followup indicating i was starting to make the changes and have started working on it. i will fix the two that i'm aware of manually and then set up an overpass query and ponder the right way

Re: [Talk-us] County Line Off?

2017-12-01 Thread Richard Welty
On 12/1/17 5:22 PM, Derek McIntosh wrote: > I am somewhat new to OpenStreetMap, but I noticed an area where a > county line appears to be about 550 feet west of where it should be.  > I searched and found this: > >

Re: [Talk-us] note to armchair mappers about NYS routes & ref tags

2017-11-29 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/29/17 10:36 PM, Evin Fairchild wrote: > These unsigned reference route numbers probably should use the > unsigned_ref=* tag. Seems like the best compromise. that's what i intend to do if i need to go in and clean this up. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS &

[Talk-us] note to armchair mappers about NYS routes & ref tags

2017-11-29 Thread Richard Welty
i have spotted what appears to be an armchair mapper making an inappropriate set of edits to some NYS routes this past summer; i have sent the mapper a note through the OSM message system but thought this could use a broader audience, so that certain inappropriate ref tag settings _don't_ get

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk

2017-10-13 Thread Richard Welty
On 10/13/17 1:59 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > Hi all, > > I haven't abandoned this thread or thinking about it. It has just > taken me a while to read through all the diary comments + what is > being said in this thread. I intend to follow up with another diary > post where I try to collect this

Re: [Talk-us] possible upgrade for residential roads in Detroit

2017-08-16 Thread Richard Welty
in many places, avenue and street are more or less interchangable. in St Pete Florida, for example, avenues are east-west and streets are north-south; otherwise the terms are interchangable. i've seen this usage elsewhere and imagine it's common. when mapping, there are two potential tricks that

Re: [Talk-us] Differences with USA admin_level tagging

2017-07-11 Thread Richard Welty
On 7/11/17 2:46 PM, Kerry Irons wrote: > If all of you want to have some fun with jurisdictional boundaries, take a > look at College Corner, OH/IN. It is a village purposefully straddling the > OH/IN state lines with the main street being the state line. It has two zip > codes, is in three

Re: [Talk-us] Erie Canalway Trail

2017-07-05 Thread Richard Welty
On 7/5/17 1:07 AM, Kevin Kenny wrote: > Is anyone interested in getting a route relation started with the > correct route? I see in a number of other places in New York that the > trail is indicated by the name of a way, but the ways are not linked > into a coherent route. you may want to

Re: [Talk-us] Last word on named driveways

2017-04-25 Thread Richard Welty
On 4/22/17 4:18 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Given the inconsistency of TIGER data, I would not be surprised if no > automated effort will be ever attempted to deal with that dataset ever > again. That said, there are tilesets out there that show TIGER data > that thas a newer name or geometry

[Talk-us] islands not rendering properly near Troy, NY

2017-03-26 Thread Richard Welty
i'm trying to figure out why two islands in the Hudson River near Troy, NY have stopped rendering. i am not persuaded myself that recent changesets are the reason, as one of the islands has been undisturbed since a relation cleanup by fx99 back in 2013. i wonder ifsomething changed in the

Re: [Talk-us] Key:man_made... Outdated language?

2017-03-13 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/13/17 10:08 AM, Rory McCann wrote: > > I generally support these kinds of things. However such an old tag is in > use so much, that changing it would really mess a lot of things up for a > while. You'd need a lot of work to move over. So I'm skeptical purely > for practical reasons. And I

Re: [Talk-us] MO Stare Road Classifications.

2017-03-05 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/5/17 8:22 AM, Mike N wrote: > Hi, > >Typically, regional classifications do not map into OSM > classification, and often conflict. > > If a freeway / expressway is constructed as an OSM motorway, it > should be motorway. > > If a 'local' road serves an industrial area it should be >

Re: [Talk-us] highway=trunk for NHS routes?

2017-01-01 Thread Richard Welty
On 12/31/16 4:19 PM, Kerry Irons wrote: > > Not to cloud this discussion, but be aware that at least some states > refer to “county trunk” roads at the county level. Near as I can tell > that simply means “major” vs. “minor” roads at the county level > without rigid criteria to define them.

Re: [Talk-us] manifesto

2016-11-30 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/30/16 5:54 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > It was copied from last year but we originally planned to close > nominations around that time. Now that we have only four candidates > for five positions we have no choice but to extend. hmmm. i had not planned on running again in the near term, but

[Talk-us] Fall River Massachusetts

2016-11-12 Thread Richard Welty
any mappers near Fall River? we visited Battleship Cove today and discovered that the ramps surrounding the east end of the I-195 bridge have been extensively reconstructed and the road topology is noticeably different from what's in OSM. it could use some kind attention from someone with more

Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for dealing with old TIGER tags?

2016-06-03 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/3/16 5:13 PM, Kevin Kenny wrote: > Can someone review for me the 'rural residential' problem? the short version is that we are supposed to use residential in truly residential areas and unclassified for generic town roads. in tiger, there is no distinction between the two and so everything

Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for dealing with old TIGER tags?

2016-06-02 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/2/16 4:59 PM, Madeline Steele wrote: > > The approach that is preferred at TriMet (where I work) is that if we > are able to check the geometry of the street against fairly recent > imagery (improving it if needed) and verify the name of the street, > from either our local jurisdictional

Re: [Talk-us] How are US county boundaries legally defined?

2016-05-31 Thread Richard Welty
On 5/31/16 10:32 AM, Greg Troxel wrote: > Jake writes: > >> US mappers - do any of you know what government body is the keeper of truth >> for Missouri county boundaries? > I don't, but I would call the state GIS or highway departments and ask. > It is likely that the country

Re: [Talk-us] Timezones in USA?

2016-05-26 Thread Richard Welty
On 5/26/16 3:54 PM, Bill Ricker wrote: > > ​ > ​I see the attraction to including TZ data in the OSM, ​but the > timezone definitions are in flux more than most political boundaries. ' > Whether core OSM is the right place to store and serve this is one > question; > what team/project commits

Re: [Talk-us] Per-State relations for the Appalachian Trail

2016-05-04 Thread Richard Welty
On 5/4/16 9:54 AM, Elliott Plack wrote: > Thanks for all of the feedback. I definitely won't be merging any > relations based on some of what you have all stated. What I will do is > go through and look at each relation state by state to ensure there is > connectivity and what not. I'll update

Re: [Talk-us] API Behavior

2016-02-26 Thread Richard Welty
On 2/26/16 12:01 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > It’s an API limitation. If no node is within the bbox the API has no way of > knowing there should be something there. I don’t believe there is a different > workaround from the one you already suggest yourself, but I would be happy to > be wrong

Re: [Talk-us] Map Your Train Ride!

2016-02-24 Thread Richard Welty
On 2/24/16 4:52 PM, stevea wrote: > I don't know how to promote this any better than to say this here and > hope it makes its way into local chapters' mind-space. I'd like to > begin a campaign to encourage OSM volunteers to: > > Map Your Train Ride! > i better get over to Huck Finn's Playland

Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for coastline to Inland Bay / River transition

2016-01-07 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/7/16 3:12 PM, Elliott Plack wrote: > Greetings, > > What are the current accepts best practices for determining where to > "cut off" the coastline and to begin a river or bay type feature? The > wiki seems to be in disagreement about this, and I've read chatter > about switching to ocean

Re: [Talk-us] Proposal: Sunset ref=* on ways in, favor of relations

2015-11-19 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/19/15 9:33 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 8:22 AM, Paul Fox > wrote: > > > thanks. i wasn't sure if "discussion" was the same as > "announcement", but > i guess it is in this case. i also

Re: [Talk-us] Proposal: Sunset ref=* on ways in, favor of relations

2015-11-14 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/14/15 4:25 PM, Paul Fox wrote: > russ wrote: > > Paul Johnson writes: > > > I was really hoping the latest carto would have included relations and > > > graphical shields myself, since that's almost a throwaway ticklist item > for > > > maps (and particularly online maps) the world

Re: [Talk-us] Street names that need expanding

2015-11-13 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/13/15 6:05 PM, Hans De Kryger wrote: > Anyone know a overpass query to find street names that need expanding? > Wanted to find some in Arizona but have no experience at overpass. Any > help would be appreciated. > try using overpass turbo (overpass-turbo.eu); pan/zoom to the location of

Re: [Talk-us] Proposal: Sunset ref=* on ways in, favor of relations

2015-11-11 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/11/15 8:49 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > County and city routes might be a tough nut to crack. The two Tulsa > City Expressways use fairly generic (and in the old pre-carto > rendering, coincidentally approximated) official signage. > so produce a generic looking svg file for the particular

Re: [Talk-us] Proposal: Sunset ref=* on ways in, favor of relations

2015-11-11 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/11/15 7:31 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Richard Welty <rwe...@averillpark.net > <mailto:rwe...@averillpark.net>> wrote: > > 3) make the needs/requirements for growing out the shield rendering > well known to the community. is

Re: [Talk-us] San Diego Address Import Update

2015-11-10 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/10/15 11:09 AM, Clifford Snow wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:48 AM, Tod Fitch > wrote: > > So what is a good definition for what should go in the addr:city > tag? If it is based on being within a formal administrative >

Re: [Talk-us] Proposal: Sunset ref=* on ways in, favor of relations

2015-11-09 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/9/15 9:39 AM, Kevin Kenny wrote: > > In the issue on Github, you remark: > "I'm contemplating closing this. As above, there are currently serious > data issues in the US that prevent route relations from being used for > rendering shields. If someone wants to take up the data quality issue,

Re: [Talk-us] San Diego Address Import Update

2015-11-09 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/9/15 8:23 PM, Tod Fitch wrote: > Perhaps true in general, but in this specific case the administrative > boundary for San Diego (1) is quite a long way from the post office in Pine > Valley (2)(3) and the Pine Valley post office is most likely to have a postal > name of “Pine Valley” as

Re: [Talk-us] Proposal: Sunset ref=* on ways in, favor of relations

2015-11-09 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/9/15 10:32 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Richard Welty wrote: >> the key thing, i think, is that mappers have little motivation to >> work on route relations if they don't actually get used by >> anything. > Don't forget that the issue is not an endemic issue with

Re: [Talk-us] San Diego Address Import Update

2015-11-09 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/9/15 4:51 PM, Tod Fitch wrote: > I think you are referring to this change > set: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/3411425 > > I noticed errors in it the other week when adding a restaurant in Pine > Valley and noted on the mail > list: >

Re: [Talk-us] Proposal: Sunset ref=* on ways in, favor of relations

2015-11-08 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/8/15 9:04 PM, Paul Norman wrote: > On 11/7/2015 10:18 AM, Kevin Kenny wrote: >> I find lately that it needs a patched Mapnik, because Mapnik (sensibly) >> went to a read-only database connection, and one of Phil's stored >> procedures modifies the database the first time that a shield

Re: [Talk-us] Proposal: Sunset ref=* on ways in, favor of relations

2015-11-06 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/6/15 5:01 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Stop rendering this key and instead render the relations >> > >> > Is there *any* map style that does this at the moment? >> > > I believe Toby had a working mapnik-based renderer doing this on osm.us at > one point, though i'm

[Talk-us] NY GIS/SIG conference

2015-11-02 Thread Richard Welty
The NY GIS/SIG conference is being held on April 12th, 2016 in Rochester, NY. The conference organizers are interested in building a strong OSM/OpenData/OpenSource track and broadening the audience to include the OSM community. the call for papers will go out after Thanksgiving and i'll forward

Re: [Talk-us] Maxweight in the USA

2015-11-02 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/2/15 4:59 PM, Andy Townsend wrote: > > I'm not from the US, and I'm not sure what the right answer is (if as > a community you're happy entering maxweight=4.5359237 it'd certainly > make everyone's lives easier), so I'm posting this here and then > retiring back across the Atlantic :) > i'm

Re: [Talk-us] OpenStreetMap US chapter board elections

2015-10-21 Thread Richard Welty
On 10/21/15 5:28 PM, Paul Norman wrote: > As one of the independent scrutineers for the OSM US Election, I have > completed counting votes, and Ian Dees, Alex Barth, Alyssa Wright, > Martijn van Exel, and Drishtie Patel have been elected to the > OpenStreetMap US board. congratulations to the new

Re: [Talk-us] what happened to Sacramento?

2015-09-30 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/30/15 12:47 PM, Ray Kiddy wrote: > Wow. I have not gotten to the point, in my mapping adventures, where I > have had to look at changesets like this. A new thing to learn. > > Thanks for the reverts. I will get to fixing the rest of that soon. > > you may want to look to newer TIGER boundary

Re: [Talk-us] User HomocideBaltimore adding fake / fictional / old data all over Baltimore

2015-09-11 Thread Richard Welty
if he's ignoring clear requests to stop, would any other project want him? i see value in historic buildings but a bunch of the other stuff he's done makes him seem unattractive for any other project. On 9/11/15 5:14 PM, Luis Villa wrote: > Agreed that clearly these edits need to be reverted and

Re: [Talk-us] User HomocideBaltimore adding fake / fictional / old data all over Baltimore

2015-09-11 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/10/15 6:34 PM, Elliott Plack wrote: > This is very strange! The user HomicideBaltimore has been mapping all > kinds of buildings around Baltimore that don't exist. They're old > public housing projects or rowhomes that were razed, but seem to have > been used on the set of the NBC show

Re: [Talk-us] Another road classification disagreement (this time with HFCS in Kansas)

2015-09-06 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/6/15 12:49 PM, richiekenned...@gmail.com wrote: > I am the editor in question. > > The discussion appears to assume that roadway design conveys type. I > do not necessarily agree. > > However, I can see where some roads with a high HFCS classification > may warrant a class downgrade. US 24 in

Re: [Talk-us] Another road classification disagreement (this time with HFCS in Kansas)

2015-09-06 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/6/15 6:26 AM, Paul Norman wrote: > On 9/6/2015 1:24 AM, Toby Murray wrote: >> US 24: two lanes, undivided, 65 MPH speed limit, narrow shoulders >> US 81: four lanes, divided by a 50 foot median, 70 MPH speed limit, 10 >> foot shoulders >> >> I'm pretty sure US 24 also has a lot more random

Re: [Talk-us] understanding administrative boundary relations

2015-09-04 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/4/15 5:09 PM, Ray Kiddy wrote: > So, there is nothing that a relation brings to the table that a way > does not? I mean, it is clear that for the purposes of drawing, they > are the same. But then are they really just the same? i don't know about the current style, but in the past there has

Re: [Talk-us] Request revert on Changeset #33669446

2015-09-02 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/2/15 12:25 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > I'm kind of seeing that as abuse of classification and classification > creep as well. I'd probably have gone with trunk for the entire > length of KS 7 from KS 32 to KS 10 rather than spin the wheel and > creep it upwards. I'm not really seeing a

Re: [Talk-us] Railway crossing challenge for MapRoulette

2015-07-06 Thread Richard Welty
On 7/6/15 11:02 AM, Clifford Snow wrote: From my read of our wiki and wikipedia, the correct term should be level_crossing. British English and all. level_crossing is correct. it's what i've been using for years. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS IT Consulting

Re: [Talk-us] Question?

2015-06-29 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/29/15 3:58 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: Is there any feature on the ground that can be surveyed? From the image it doesn't appear that the site has any historical markers that can be mapped. If so, I would say it doesn't belong in OSM. You'l' have to ask OHM if they think it belongs there.

Re: [Talk-us] Question?

2015-06-29 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/29/15 4:58 PM, Brad Neuhauser wrote: I think there's also this? http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/303225395 ah, missed that. depends on whether the requirements of http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:historic%3Darchaeological_site are met; if they are, then OSM is correct. otherwise i

Re: [Talk-us] our numbers

2015-06-24 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/24/15 9:28 AM, alyssa wright wrote: Hmmm... the internet explained what a fursuiter is (which google spell check doesn't like) but what is a dumpling in context? I'm going to say 0 on the fursuiters but I didn't see how beer in Queens ended up. ;) i only know two fursuiters who are

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-14 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/14/15 2:27 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote: With both outdated imagery and the Ohio River [1], I've had better luck placing redundant `note` tags on every way that such a mapper would be inclined to delete. iD shows `note` in a big box in the sidebar. It's a bit harder to miss than a (heretofore)

Re: [Talk-us] cycle.travel US bike routing, and unreviewed rural TIGER

2015-06-13 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/13/15 2:38 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: I've been finding this a really useful way of locating unreviewed TIGER and fixing it... it's actually quite addictive. :) Looking for roads which cross rivers, or with long sweeping curves, is an easy way of identifying quick wins. My modus

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-11 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/11/15 10:05 AM, Kam, Kristen wrote: We need to make it more easier to load up-to-date imagery to our OSM editing applications. And I think something easy as publicizing the date of the imagery collection would get folks to do a double take before using older imagery. i am not

[Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-11 Thread Richard Welty
please, please when doing the armchair mapping thing, be aware that aerial imagery may be several years out of date. yesterday i discovered that a highway reconfiguration i'd mapped in Rensselaer, NY had been realigned with the out-of-date bing aerial imagery. i was able to locate my GPX tracks

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-11 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/11/15 12:46 PM, Mike N wrote: My current strategy is to leave the original objects, just remove all tagging except for a note about Bing imagery dated is out of date. i did this with a slip ramp from I-90 nearby that was removed when a roundabout was put in; i had removed the

[Talk-us] README tag with editor support

2015-06-11 Thread Richard Welty
this is a summary of previous discussion on newbies talk-us we have an ongoing, persistent problem with armchair mappers correcting the map to match out of date aerial imagery. i just had to repair the map in Rensselaer, NY; the street named Broadway was reconfigured in late 2012, and bing

Re: [Talk-us] a plea to armchair mappers

2015-06-11 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/11/15 1:27 PM, Darrell Fuhriman wrote: Shouldn’t be too hard to add this: https://github.com/rjhale1971/NAIP_WMS Unfortunately, the WMS server seems to be misbehaving right now. I sent a note to what I hope are the right people about that. i had found Randy's page back when Darrell

[Talk-us] tools for processing old TIGER/Line files?

2015-06-10 Thread Richard Welty
does anyone know of any tools that can process these old files (1992, 2006) into a more modern format? i have a couple of things i'd like to inspect the old TIGER files for. thanks, richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL -

Re: [Talk-us] tools for processing old TIGER/Line files?

2015-06-10 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/10/15 8:46 PM, Darrell Fuhriman wrote: OGR should be able to. http://www.gdal.org/drv_tiger.html Keep in mind the 1992 files in particular are very poor quality (which, BTW, shouldn’t be taken as the census doing a poor job, but rather that high-accuracy was not a design criteria for

Re: [Talk-us] A note about bags and security at SOTM-US

2015-06-04 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/4/15 9:56 AM, Bonnie Bogle wrote: Hi everyone, Thanks for the questions on backpacks at State of the Map US this weekend. We have to follow the standard UN security policies, which limit bags to those smaller than 14 wide x 13 high x 4 deep. We don't know how specifically these

Re: [Talk-us] A note about bags and security at SOTM-US

2015-06-04 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/4/15 10:09 AM, Richard Welty wrote: i strongly recommend checking with the UN on this as it's pretty severe. as it is, i'm going to have to make an emergency run to staples tomorrow morning to see what they have in stock, and i'll have to buy two if my daughter's backpack doesn't pass

Re: [Talk-us] A note about bags and security at SOTM-US

2015-06-04 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/4/15 2:03 AM, Toby Murray wrote: Well ok, I guess this is primarily targeted at anyone who was planning on bringing a backpack. I'm sure I can fit what I need for a day in a bag this size as well. But any normal backpack is going to be 16-18 inches tall and too large for the UN. This is

[Talk-us] SOTM US venue

2015-05-24 Thread Richard Welty
so the UN complex is pretty big; from 42nd street north to 48th street. where within this complex will we find SOTM US? richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search signature.asc

Re: [Talk-us] SOTM US venue

2015-05-24 Thread Richard Welty
On 5/24/15 6:04 PM, alyssa wright wrote: There will be volunteers leading attendees to the conference area. There will also be a map in the program. We will be in conference room 1, 2 and 3 on the first floor, some additional caucus rooms for the BoFs and the North Lawn building for lunch.

Re: [Talk-us] Removing a CDP

2015-05-19 Thread Richard Welty
On 5/19/15 8:35 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: I would like to remove Machias, Washington admin_level 8 since it does not exist as a city in Washington. It has been there for a number of years apparently added by a bot. I plan to leave it as a CDP locality node. There doesn't seem to be any chance

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OHM] Fwd: moving data from OSM to OHM - what should the markers be?

2015-05-18 Thread Richard Welty
On 5/18/15 9:22 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 18.05.2015 um 15:11 schrieb Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net: in OSM, i tag at least the basic, visible course as highway=track, with start_date and end_date when known (which is usually the case for US and Canada tracks - i have

[Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OHM] Fwd: moving data from OSM to OHM - what should the markers be?

2015-05-18 Thread Richard Welty
[this is a lightly revised version of something i sent over to the OHM mailing list last night] i didn't really get any input here, but i have made some progress in deciding what to do about the issue with visible remnants of old race tracks. i think that what i'm doing is consistent with the

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OHM] Fwd: moving data from OSM to OHM - what should the markers be?

2015-05-18 Thread Richard Welty
on a tangentially related note... the first person who comes up to me at SOTM-US and asks will get copies of _History of America's Speedways_ and the 2015 National Speedway Directory. i will have them with me at my talk Saturday morning unless someone asks to me before that. must be in person,

Re: [Talk-us] New York, Ellis Island Boundary

2015-05-11 Thread Richard Welty
On 5/11/15 11:55 AM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: I agree, the historical boundary should be removed, but we need to be sure to show what's in what state. It's quite a little mess. i think the only problem is that the word historical is there. deleting the tags on the way would be sufficient. the

[Talk-us] NYS ortho imagery layers

2015-04-09 Thread Richard Welty
there are a number of orthoimagery layers available from New York State, beginning with 2000. i have inquired about any usage restrictions and according to Ray Faught of the NYS GIS Program Office, they are free for public use without restriction. the layers may be found here:

Re: [Talk-us] Mappy Hour - Next Monday

2015-04-06 Thread Richard Welty
geez, now i feel like i have to show up. On 4/6/15 4:59 PM, Toby Murray wrote: I was just wondering if there was a mappy hour tonight and found this email. Thought I'd send out a ping in case others weren't sure either. Hope to see some of you tonight :) Toby On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:26

[Talk-us] mappy hour link

2015-04-06 Thread Richard Welty
not sure where martijn is so here is a link https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/g2o6g44btltptbrbtounshmutya -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [Talk-us] CloudMade's ambassadors

2015-04-06 Thread Richard Welty
On 4/6/15 12:06 AM, Kate Chapman wrote: Thanks for posting this. The first OSM person I ever met was Russ Nelson when he was a CloudMade ambassador. It was at a mapping party in Baltimore, that really is what sparked further involvement in OSM for me. Prior to that I did a bit of mapping in my

Re: [Talk-us] perceptions of OHM and other similar projects

2015-04-04 Thread Richard Welty
On 4/4/15 8:29 AM, Mike Dupont wrote: On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 11:08 PM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com mailto:nel...@crynwr.com wrote: If the two were layers in the same database, or if they have been tagged using railway=dismantled and railway=abandoned, then it's no problem to

[Talk-us] perceptions of OHM and other similar projects

2015-04-03 Thread Richard Welty
so one of the things from recent discussion that concerns me are perceptions out there about projects parallel to OSM that are designed to complement it, specifically OHM. here is an outline of the view from OHM, and i'm interesting in understanding why some treat the whole project so dismissively

Re: [Talk-us] perceptions of OHM and other similar projects

2015-04-03 Thread Richard Welty
On 4/3/15 10:40 AM, Greg Morgan wrote: If you are asking for an opinion, then this is the kind-of thing that is a detriment to OSM. Whereas I try to use OpenSeaMap tags where I can for the limited features that sea map applies, I won't go out of my way to add data to OSH. My main concern

Re: [Talk-us] Moving historic railroad ways from OSM to OpenHistoricalMap

2015-04-02 Thread Richard Welty
On 4/2/15 4:27 PM, Paul Norman wrote: On 3/29/2015 5:00 AM, Mark Bradley wrote: Can I export these ways from OSM and then import them into OHM? The main technical problem with moving data from one OSM API to another (e.g. OSM to OHM, OSM to dev server, OSM to OpenGeoFiction) is making sure to

Re: [Talk-us] Moving historic railroad ways from OSM to OpenHistoricalMap

2015-04-01 Thread Richard Welty
On 4/1/15 3:14 AM, Mike Dupont wrote: Here in Kansas we have very many abandoned railways (and many pickup trucks to replace them) that are turned into trails or paved over and still visible. I would say if there is any sign of them left to keep the information in some way. this is a

Re: [Talk-us] USA Rail: Calling all OSM railfans! (especially in California)

2015-03-31 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/31/15 4:58 PM, Paul Norman wrote: On 3/31/2015 11:02 AM, stevea wrote: Part of the reason I do this is because other places you might discover these data (subdivision names) are maps published by the rail corporations. But, be careful. For example, I have found that when I go to Union

Re: [Talk-us] Elevation in local units

2015-03-25 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/25/15 1:43 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: * I feel that osm convention should encourage all mappers to specify units (e.g. 22 m). * That whitespace should be allowed (e.g. 22m, 22 m, or even 22 meters). * And that local units should be encouraged (e.g. 22 feet, or 22' 0). The wiki

Re: [Talk-us] Boundaries and verifiability (was Re: Retagging hamlets in the US)

2015-03-24 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/24/15 6:01 PM, Jack Burke wrote: I would politely disagree that TIGER is an authoritative source for two reasons: 1) The extensive TIGER cleanup that is still being done years after the last import, and well, if that data were removed and sourced externally, the problems with TIGER

Re: [Talk-us] Mappy Hour tomorrow (monday) night

2015-03-23 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/23/15 8:32 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: I may need access to the US chapter page to do it without screwing over who's gonna be running it from recording. i think only Martijn can add managers. i'll try wrestling with event interface again in a little bit. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net

Re: [Talk-us] Mappy Hour tomorrow (monday) night

2015-03-23 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/23/15 4:14 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: Should I make the G+ event for it or will that trip things up? i was a little mystified by the current G+ interface so i didn't do so. if you can figure it out, more power to you. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS IT

Re: [Talk-us] Mappy Hour tomorrow (monday) night

2015-03-23 Thread Richard Welty
here is an event link which i hope works ok: https://plus.google.com/b/113331273824393211883/events/cnsbqt4rtjjcekl2hcgc53josj0?authkey=COK7xau86urZ6gE i may need to send invitations to people on a case by case basis; if you have a g+ account but can't get access, send me an email and i'll try

[Talk-us] mappy hour link

2015-03-23 Thread Richard Welty
this should be it: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/event/cnsbqt4rtjjcekl2hcgc53josj0 -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[Talk-us] Mappy Hour tomorrow (monday) night

2015-03-22 Thread Richard Welty
in the traditional 8:30pm ET slot - Martijn is traveling so i get to pick the time. i'll post a link here when i have it. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search signature.asc

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