Re: [OSM-talk-be] Weekly OSM

2014-10-24 Thread Marc Gemis
Thanks, nice to read it in Dutch. especially the Belgian touch you added :-) regards m On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 10:57 PM, Ben Abelshausen ben.abelshau...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I would like to announce a new thing I am trying to do that is very simple but should introduce some continuity in

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-24 Thread Ben Abelshausen
Hey, 2014-10-24 1:13 GMT+02:00 Thomas o...@aptum.nl: Toch bijzonder dat al die officiële datasets die kennelijke fout bevatten. Interessant punt, we kunnen ook iets klein opzetten om fouten melden via deze webservice: Met vriendelijke groeten, Best regards, Ben Abelshausen

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-24 Thread Ben Abelshausen
Oeps, even te snel verzonden: https://www.agiv.be/producten/crab/meer-info-over-crab/beheer-van-het-crab/crab-beheerdiensten/crab-melding Met vriendelijke groeten, Best regards, Ben Abelshausen 2014-10-24 9:10 GMT+02:00 Ben Abelshausen ben.abelshau...@gmail.com: Hey, 2014-10-24 1:13

[OSM-talk-be] Een klein verhaaltje / A little story

2014-10-24 Thread Marc Gemis
Via de tool van Sander zag ik een straat waar ik nog geen huis nummers van had. Het was verleidelijk om de nummers gewoon snel te copiëren. Maar omdat ik toch met de honden buiten moest, besloot ik maar om een ommetje te maken langs die voor mij onbekende straat. Wat bracht deze kleine survey op

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-24 Thread Johan Van de Wauw
2014-10-24 5:32 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com: dan heb je geluk. In mijn regio is het veel slechter gesteld met de kwaliteit. ZN is waarschijnlijk zonder nummer, een kapel ? een kerk ? in Edegem is er ook een bibliotheek zonder nummer. m CRAB wordt per gemeente bijgehouden.

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-24 Thread Glenn Plas
Voor wat hoort wat vind ik, het mag misschien geen prioriteit zijn om de gemeente in kaart te brengen, waarom zou het dan voor ons prioriteit zijn hun data te fixen ? Het is op zich al moeilijk genoeg voor ons. De openheid van hun data kan beter. Bv. het overtekenen van gebouwen vind ik

Re: [OSM-talk-be] text rendering for routes in Maperitive

2014-10-24 Thread Olivier Toubeau
Hi all, Sorry for the delay. Here are my rules : https://www.dropbox.com/s/jvxucuxtce8085f/Default.mrules?dl=0 Thank you ! Oli -Message d'origine- De : Glenn Plas [mailto:gl...@byte-consult.be] Envoyé : jeudi 9 octobre 2014 14:53 À : OpenStreetMap Belgium Objet : Re: [OSM-talk-be]

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-24 Thread Marc Gemis
Daar geef ik je gelijk in, Glen. Ik map om OSM beter te maken, niet om een of andere overheidsdatabank te corrigeren. Het is ook een extra stap die je bv. niet van toerist-mappers kan verwachten. Als ik in Nederland een huisnummer aanpas of een gebouw verwijder omdat het gesloopt is, wil ik echt

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-24 Thread Sander Deryckere
Op 24 oktober 2014 01:13 schreef Thomas o...@aptum.nl: Ik heb nu de CRAB-data voor een hele verzameling straten in en rond Oostende bestudeerd. In het algemeen vind ik dat de data vrij nauwkeurig is. Een enkele keer merkte ik op dat twee naast elkaar gelegen huisnummers met elkaar

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-24 Thread Johan Van de Wauw
Sander, je baseert je beter op de CRAB adressen*lijst* in plaats van de CRAB adres*posities* https://download.agiv.be/Producten/Detail?id=447 Dan krijg je per adres maar 1 positie (de beste) en er zijn zelfs een aantal categorieën die niet in de adresposities zitten. Verwarrend - zeker wel.

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-24 Thread Verhoeven Fr
Hooi Sander, http://sanderd17.github.io/import.html werkt nu ook op mijn netbook zowel in Firefox als in Chrome. Ik gebruik die netbook om minder stroom te verbruiken en te mappen van in mijn luie zetel, een touchpad is ook minder belasten voor de vingers. ;-) Uw programma is handig om de

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-24 Thread Sander Deryckere
Op 24 oktober 2014 10:26 schreef Johan Van de Wauw johan.vandew...@gmail.com: Sander, je baseert je beter op de CRAB adressen*lijst* in plaats van de CRAB adres*posities* https://download.agiv.be/Producten/Detail?id=447 Dan krijg je per adres maar 1 positie (de beste) en er zijn zelfs een

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-24 Thread Johan Van de Wauw
2014-10-24 10:48 GMT+02:00 Sander Deryckere sander...@gmail.com: Op 24 oktober 2014 10:26 schreef Johan Van de Wauw johan.vandew...@gmail.com: Sander, je baseert je beter op de CRAB adressen*lijst* in plaats van de CRAB adres*posities* https://download.agiv.be/Producten/Detail?id=447

[OSM-talk-be] Tag; definitie voor een garage straat

2014-10-24 Thread Jakka
Dag, Situatie: Huizen rij langs straat. Elk huis met een lange smalle tuin naar achteren toe. Er is een geasfalteerde straatje die achter de tuinen loopt. Waardoor men in die tuinen een garage kon bouwen, dus toegang via zoals wij hier zeggen een garagestraatje. bord C3 uitzonderlijk

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Tag; definitie voor een garage straat

2014-10-24 Thread Marc Gemis
Ik gebruik in zo'n situatie highway=service, service=alley noexit=no moet je niet toevoegen. Elke router kan dat zelf wel uitvissen. Tenminste als je op de barrier=bollard ook foot=yes, bicycle=yes zet mvg m 2014-10-24 12:08 GMT+02:00 Jakka vdmfrank...@gmail.com: Dag, Situatie: Huizen

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Tag; definitie voor een garage straat

2014-10-24 Thread Marc Gemis
o ja, het is gemakkelijker als je op osm.org, de exit pijl rechts aanklikt en dan de link daar kopieert en meestuurt als je naar een bepaalde plek verwijst. 2014-10-24 12:14 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com: Ik gebruik in zo'n situatie highway=service, service=alley noexit=no moet je

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Tag; definitie voor een garage straat

2014-10-24 Thread Andre Engels
Zeker geen noexit=no toevoegen. Dat is niet bedoeld voor gevallen waar de weg voor bepaalde groepen (voetgangers bijvoorbeeld) wel degelijk doorgaat (en ook in andere gevallen is het naar mijn mening slechts een hint voor andere mappers, geen wezenlijk onderdeel voor gebruikers). Ikzelf zou de

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Tag; definitie voor een garage straat

2014-10-24 Thread Andre Engels
Oeps, te snel op enter gedrukt. Waar ik access=no, foot=yes zeg, bedoel ik access=private, foot=yes. André 2014-10-24 12:20 GMT+02:00 Andre Engels andreeng...@gmail.com: Zeker geen noexit=no toevoegen. Dat is niet bedoeld voor gevallen waar de weg voor bepaalde groepen (voetgangers

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-24 Thread Thomas
Ik heb die adressenlijst even gedownload en voor een paar straten bekeken. Dat verheldert ook wel een paar zaken. Weer kwam ik een geval tegen met als huisnummer 'ZN'. In deze lijst heeft hij echter wel een locatie meegekregen. Ik ken de betreffende plaats, en begrijp nu dat het een

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-24 Thread Johan Van de Wauw
2014-10-24 12:42 GMT+02:00 Thomas o...@aptum.nl: Ik heb die adressenlijst even gedownload en voor een paar straten bekeken. Dat verheldert ook wel een paar zaken. Weer kwam ik een geval tegen met als huisnummer 'ZN'. In deze lijst heeft hij echter wel een locatie meegekregen. Ik ken de

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Tag; definitie voor een garage straat

2014-10-24 Thread Jakka
Andre Engels schreef op 24/10/2014 om 12:21: Oeps, te snel op enter gedrukt. Waar ik access=no, foot=yes zeg, bedoel ik access=private, foot=yes. André 2014-10-24 12:20 GMT+02:00 Andre Engels andreeng...@gmail.com: Zeker geen noexit=no toevoegen. Dat is niet bedoeld voor gevallen waar de weg

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Tag; definitie voor een garage straat

2014-10-24 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-10-24 12:20, Andre Engels wrote : Zeker geen noexit=no toevoegen. Dat is niet bedoeld voor gevallen waar de weg voor bepaalde groepen (voetgangers bijvoorbeeld) wel degelijk doorgaat (en ook in andere gevallen is het naar mijn mening slechts een hint voor andere mappers, geen wezenlijk

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-24 Thread Sander Deryckere
Bah, Daar waar ik dacht dat we aan de eindspurt richting goeie tools bezig waren, staan we terug aan het begin. Na een maand programmeren. Ik heb nu even geen zin meer om het script van CRAB naar JSON te herschrijven voor die andere database structuur. Ik vind het goed genoeg zoals het is.

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-24 Thread Ben Abelshausen
2014-10-24 13:57 GMT+02:00 Sander Deryckere sander...@gmail.com: Ik heb nu even geen zin meer om het script van CRAB naar JSON te herschrijven voor die andere database structuur. Ik zal er eens naar kijken sander. Met vriendelijke groeten, Best regards, Ben Abelshausen

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-24 Thread Glenn Plas
Ik wil ook wel meehelpen als ik nuttig kan zijn. Testen/bugchecken, browser tests, laat maar weten waarmee en ik help mee. Delegeer gerust. Glenn On 24-10-14 14:39, Ben Abelshausen wrote: 2014-10-24 13:57 GMT+02:00 Sander Deryckere sander...@gmail.com mailto:sander...@gmail.com: Ik

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-24 Thread Thomas
Ik ga ook even kijken wat ik kan met het script. De structuur van de adressenlijst lijkt mij een stuk minder complex dan die van de posities. Groeten, Thomas Glenn Plas schreef op 24-10-2014 15:15: Ik wil ook wel meehelpen als ik nuttig kan zijn. Testen/bugchecken, browser tests, laat maar

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-24 Thread Glenn Plas
Vergeet niet de gebruikelijke character set problemen, UTF8 , Latin1 etc. Dat is denk ik nog hetgeen je meest mee bezig zal zijn. (regex+UTF8= fun fun ) Maar los daarvan kunnen we voortbouwen op een degelijke basis gelegd door Sander. Glenn On 24-10-14 15:26, Thomas wrote: Ik ga ook

Re: [OSM-talk-be] import AGIV CRAB-data

2014-10-24 Thread Sander Deryckere
De character set van de posities database was cp720. Ik had er nog nooit van gehoord, maar het plezante is dat de encoderingen van é, ë en è in die character set net illegale encoderingen zijn volgens UTF-8. Waardoor je python script crasht als het die tegenkwam. Zie

[OSM-talk-be] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was: The world's best addressable map)

2014-10-24 Thread Marc Gemis
crossposting from the talk mailing list, where address imports are also discussed at the moment. -- Forwarded message -- From: Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr Date: Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was:

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Modus operandi of the board

2014-10-24 Thread Paul Norman
On Oct 23, 2014, at 03:00 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: I think it is reasonable postpone elections for three months considering current turmoil.   Leaving aside any question about the merits of this, I don't believe it is possible. Notice has been given of the AGM, and an

[OSM-talk] Postponing elections, or other alternatives (Was: Modus operandi of the board)

2014-10-24 Thread Kathleen Danielson
As Paul said, leaving aside any merits of this (there are plenty of other threads going on to discuss that), can we have some brainstorming on the mechanics of how it might work? There have been a few suggestions for ways to essentially reboot the board, but I am not familiar enough with the

Re: [OSM-talk] GoPro video traces?

2014-10-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 23.10.2014 um 20:24 schrieb David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com: I have sent a couple of emails to action cam manufacturers requesting a distance lapse function. I typically see higher offset/imprecision/wandering around when standing still on the phone GPS than what I think would make

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap ten years on, and why it's time for a fresh slate

2014-10-24 Thread Richard Fairhurst
This one's going to be long, but it might be worth it, I hope. I've been involved in OSM for almost ten years now. 22nd November is my OSM birthday: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2004-November/000111.html Message 000111. Right now talk@ is up to 71235, never mind the

Re: [OSM-talk] Postponing elections, or other alternatives (Was: Modus operandi of the board)

2014-10-24 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 10/24/2014 10:41 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Is there *any* mechanism to put a new question to the full membership in the upcoming election, or is it too late for that? The board does not have to call AGMs or do elections. I don't know if legally it is too late to cancel the

[OSM-talk] Download source of all wikipages?

2014-10-24 Thread Richard Z.
Hi, is it possible to download the complete source of all wiki pages from wiki.openstreetmap.org - preferably as highly compressed tarball? I am frequently finding that without a full regexp search it is very easy to miss important bits of information and related/similar tags so a copy at home

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was: The world’s best addressable map)

2014-10-24 Thread Florian Lohoff
Hi, On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 01:32:19PM +0200, Marc Gemis wrote: So don't you expect pressure from companies using OSM for navigation and geocoding to add more addresses ? Or do you expect them to use many different datasources ? I dont get this? pressure? On what basis? You get the OSM data

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was: The world’s best addressable map)

2014-10-24 Thread Paweł Paprota
OSM is not a melting pot for the world's open data and while there is a place for imports, every import will have to be carefully thought about and evaluated. Streamlining that process is not necessarily in the best interest of OpenStreetMap. What do you mean? Clearly it *is* in the

Re: [OSM-talk] Download source of all wikipages?

2014-10-24 Thread Grant Slater
Hi Richard, https://dump.wiki.openstreetmap.org (currently offline) had daily exports of the wiki. I will try bring it back online in the next few days. Kind regards, Grant Part of OSM sysadmin team. On 24 October 2014 10:58, Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com wrote: Hi, is it possible to

Re: [OSM-talk] Overpass turbo Has it been amended?

2014-10-24 Thread Roland Olbricht
Ok, so you recommend to use QL instead of XML. Is there some feature that are in QL and not in XML ? The XML will be maintained for how long ? and quickosm should switch from XML to QL in the short term ? Currently, all features are available in both XML and QL variants, but the most

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was: The world’s best addressable map)

2014-10-24 Thread Marc Gemis
For me it is not unthinkable that once a company starts using OSM data for a commercial offering, they might start demanding to add that data. Of course they cannot demand anything from the community, but they can import the data, or some people might feel a need to import data, or... It's hard

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do

2014-10-24 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
In the city of Karviná, in your example, these two industrial buildings are much larger in reality than imported: http://osm.org/go/0LZc_9WgW?m= http://osm.org/go/0LZc_2625?m= But they can be corrected in JOSM easily. And it is not a big deal. An excellent stadium and a soccer pitch are not

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was: The world’s best addressable map)

2014-10-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-10-24 13:17 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com: For me it is not unthinkable that once a company starts using OSM data for a commercial offering, they might start demanding to add that data. indeed, could happen from time to time ;-) Of course they cannot demand anything from

Re: [OSM-talk] Download source of all wikipages?

2014-10-24 Thread Richard Z.
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:54:38AM +0100, Grant Slater wrote: Hi Richard, https://dump.wiki.openstreetmap.org (currently offline) had daily exports of the wiki. I will try bring it back online in the next few days. ok, thanks for trying. Richard

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was: The world’s best addressable map)

2014-10-24 Thread Marc Gemis
? We'd still need to survey in order to do the maintenance work and correct errors. That's the main reason why imports are often seen as problematic: they will not create a comunity, rather there are indications that the growth of the comunity will slow down when everything looks completed,

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was: The world’s best addressable map)

2014-10-24 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 5:05 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: We'd still need to survey in order to do the maintenance work and correct errors. That's the main reason why imports are often seen as problematic: they will not create a comunity, rather there are indications

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was: The world’s best addressable map)

2014-10-24 Thread Paweł Marynowski
2014-10-24 14:14 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com: I totally agree with you, But, I have the impression that people that do the imports don't do them to create a community. they do it to have the data in OSM. Don't you think that more data = more people eager to add notes about

Re: [OSM-talk] Postponing elections, or other alternatives (Was: Modus operandi of the board)

2014-10-24 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 2:55 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: If we don't manage to get a board majority to postpone the whole thing, there's something else we could do at least: Ask those who stand for election to commit to calling a new GM within a certain time frame, and offer

[OSM-talk] Fwd: Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was: The world’s best addressable map)

2014-10-24 Thread Michał Brzozowski
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Paweł Marynowski y...@openstreetmap.pl wrote: Don't you think that more data = more people eager to add notes about what's missing? Eg. nearly noone wants to add bunch of notes about missing addresses. When you make import, people are starting make notes about

Re: [OSM-talk] Postponing elections, or other alternatives (Was: Modus operandi of the board)

2014-10-24 Thread Kate Chapman
Hi Clifford, Just a couple comments on your resolutions. On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 6:26 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 2:55 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Two of the resolutions I'd like to see put to a debate and vote are 1) requiring

Re: [OSM-talk] Postponing elections, or other alternatives (Was: Modus operandi of the board)

2014-10-24 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 7:59 AM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: I actually don't think it makes sense for the membership to approach things by passing a bunch of resolutions requiring the board to do things. I think certainly a drastic resolution like dismantling the entire board and

[OSM-talk] The world’s best [Cycling] map

2014-10-24 Thread Dave F.
Hi Steve Coast has a vested interest in encouraging others to add addressing to OSM. http://stevecoast.com/2013/09/03/mapping-my-next-adventure/ I, too, have a vested interest: in cycling (because I bloody love doing it). I ask, nay, demand, that everyone down tools, stop what they are

Re: [OSM-talk] Postponing elections, or other alternatives (Was: Modus operandi of the board)

2014-10-24 Thread Kathleen Danielson
FWIW, I'm also wary of resolutions dictating how the board operates. I think that a survey (or similar) is a good idea, but as Kate says, it doesn't require a resolution. Direct democracy is cumbersome and often lacks nuance, which is why it's so infrequently used. Representative democracies and

Re: [OSM-talk] The world’s best [Cycling] map

2014-10-24 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
Hi Dave, The Danube Cycle Path (Donauradweg) is arguably one of the best in the world. Here is a camping site for cyclists near Linz: http://osm.org/go/0JhPQJjmt--?m= . As you can see the camping site is mapped with an address and a name. There are such camping sites every 40 - 50 kilometers.

Re: [OSM-talk] The world’s best [Cycling] map

2014-10-24 Thread Dave F.
Hi Oleksiy On 24/10/2014 17:11, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: ...In such a case almost everything is cycling infrastructure. My exact point. If everybody adds the bits they find useful or fun then, as I said we end up with: 'a database that contains info for a wide variety of uses.' Cheers Dave

[OSM-talk] Missing Maps article in New Scientist

2014-10-24 Thread jc129
Hi This week's New Scientist magazine (no 2992) has an article about the Missing Maps project. You can read it in full on their website. http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22429924.100-slumdog-mapmakers-fill-in-the-urban-blanks.html?full=true JC

Re: [OSM-talk] The world’s best [Cycling] map

2014-10-24 Thread Pierre Béland
OSM is a good place to document information about these various circuits. I wonder if there is any relation like for Camino de Santiago trail to document such cycling route infrastructures, adding in a relation the infrastructures such as campings, repair shops, etc.  Pierre De :

Re: [OSM-talk] The world’s best [Cycling] map

2014-10-24 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
Hi Pierre, There are probably many such cycle paths. I cycled myself at North Sea Cycle Route [1], from Hamburg to Copenhagen, Chesapeake Ohio (Great Allegheny Passage) [2] from Washington D.C. to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and Danube Cycle Path. The map is always a critical item, as a speed of

Re: [OSM-talk] The world’s best [Cycling] map

2014-10-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-10-24 18:39 GMT+02:00 Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr: adding in a relation the infrastructures such as campings, repair shops, etc. why would you need a relation for this? There is already a spatial relation as soon as you insert this stuff. cheers, Martin

Re: [OSM-talk] The world’s best [Cycling] map

2014-10-24 Thread Pierre Béland
Like for a bus route, a relation let's you follow the path and see the infrastructures associated with this. Look for this example at this relation that combines various ways. You can also include nodes. For a bike circuits, the various services along the circuit could be included to better

Re: [OSM-talk] Missing Maps article in New Scientist

2014-10-24 Thread john whelan
Interesting what sort of smart phones / process are they using and can we get some to other areas? Thanks John On 24 October 2014 12:28, jc...@mail.com wrote: Hi This week's New Scientist magazine (no 2992) has an article about the Missing Maps project. You can read it in full on their

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] Missing Maps article in New Scientist

2014-10-24 Thread Kate Chapman
Hi John, I'm not sure if the article originally mentioned HOT when you read it, but it does now. Missing Maps is an initiative HOT is involved in, so these are the very same processes we've been using in various countries over the past 4 years. Typically using Field Papers and JOSM as well as GPS

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was: The world's best addressable map)

2014-10-24 Thread Christian Quest
Addresses in France... We started a project to collect addresses on a separate database called BANO (Base d'Adresses Nationale Ouverte : Open National Address Database). We've recreated data from the national cadastre (scrapping 1.3 millions PDF files), opendata source and... OSM. This database

Re: [OSM-talk] Postponing elections, or other alternatives (Was: Modus operandi of the board)

2014-10-24 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 10/24/2014 05:56 PM, Kathleen Danielson wrote: If I'm understanding this correctly, in the next week or so, before proxy voting begins, we could ask the board to make a decision to include a nonbinding resolution or, essentially a good faith resolution on the ballot. Frankly I'm not

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was: The world's best addressable map)

2014-10-24 Thread Marc Gemis
Thanks a lot for sharing the methodology of the French community. I like this approach regards m On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr wrote: Addresses in France... We started a project to collect addresses on a separate database called BANO (Base

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] A Better Map

2014-10-24 Thread Peter Barth
Hi Serge, Serge Wroclawski schrieb: Then we have the OSM community who sticks around and is participatory. Sadly if you look at the current candidates for the board, most of them have never even been in a working group. I know that's not your actual point, but as I'm one of the candidates

Re: [Talk-it] Aiuto:lettera da inviare a comune siciliano per l'apertura dei dati

2014-10-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 23.10.2014 um 18:56 schrieb Aury88 spacedrive...@gmail.com: da notare che io accetto tutti i cookie (che conservo fino alla chiusura del browser)...insomma non sono assolutamente in grado di usare la posta certificata e non so perchè :.( non è detto che dipende dai cookies, può

Re: [Talk-it] Oneway vs access=no

2014-10-24 Thread Any File
2014-10-22 0:31 GMT+02:00 Alberto Nogaro bartosom...@yahoo.it: Ho visto che mappi anche i cartelli. Complimenti, la trovo una pratica ottima per districare i casi dubbi o per risalire a cosa veramente vogliano dire i tag (ad esempio per capire bene cosa fare quando le convenzioni si

Re: [Talk-it] Aiuto:lettera da inviare a comune siciliano per l'apertura dei dati

2014-10-24 Thread Aury88
dieterdreist wrote non è detto che dipende dai cookies, può anche essere una malconfigurazione del DNS per esempio. ciao, Martin ho provato a cambiare il dns (ho usato google e poi openDNS) ma non è cambiato nulla. grazie comunque per l'aiuto - Ciao, Aury -- View this message in

Re: [Talk-it] Aiuto:lettera da inviare a comune siciliano per l'apertura dei dati

2014-10-24 Thread Andrea Musuruane
2014-10-23 18:56 GMT+02:00 Aury88 spacedrive...@gmail.com: ieri sono riuscito ad attvarle la pec ma ho altri problemi :( faccio il login su postacertificata.gov.it e dentro se provo ad andare in Casella PostaCertificat@ mi da errore il browser: Questa pagina non reindirizza in modo corretto

Re: [Talk-it] Oneway vs access=no

2014-10-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-10-24 11:12 GMT+02:00 Any File anysomef...@gmail.com: So che il regolamento del codice della strada chiama con delle sigle i vari cartelli, ma non riesco mai a trovare una fonte libera da cui prenderli. non puoi prendere le sigle direttamente dal CdS? Essendo una legge dovrebbe essere

Re: [Talk-it] Aiuto:lettera da inviare a comune siciliano per l'apertura dei dati

2014-10-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-10-24 11:14 GMT+02:00 Aury88 spacedrive...@gmail.com: non è detto che dipende dai cookies, può anche essere una malconfigurazione del DNS per esempio. ciao, Martin ho provato a cambiare il dns (ho usato google e poi openDNS) ma non è cambiato nulla. grazie comunque per l'aiuto

Re: [Talk-it] Oneway vs access=no

2014-10-24 Thread Any File
2014-10-22 8:09 GMT+02:00 emmexx emm...@tiscalinet.it: Il 10/21/2014 10:39 PM, Any File scrisse: Impostarla a senso unico e' anche fuorviante per chi guarda la mappa. Se io ciclista vedo la mappa, ritengo che quello sia un senso unico e faccio un altro percorso. Uhmm .. però a questo punto

Re: [Talk-it] Aiuto:lettera da inviare a comune siciliano per l'apertura dei dati

2014-10-24 Thread Aury88
Andrea Musuruane wrote Uso Firefox 32 (su Windows e Linux) e non ho problemi. E tu? Sicuro di non avere antivirus, firewall o altre amenità di mezzo? Ciao, Andrea Io Firefox 33 su linux (Ubuntu 14.04) antivirus non ne ho attivi e il firewall se c'è è nel settaggio di default... -

Re: [Talk-it] Aiuto:lettera da inviare a comune siciliano per l'apertura dei dati

2014-10-24 Thread Luigi Toscano
On Friday 24 of October 2014 03:24:02 Aury88 wrote: Andrea Musuruane wrote Uso Firefox 32 (su Windows e Linux) e non ho problemi. E tu? Sicuro di non avere antivirus, firewall o altre amenità di mezzo? Ciao, Andrea Io Firefox 33 su linux (Ubuntu 14.04) antivirus non ne ho

Re: [Talk-it] Oneway vs access=no

2014-10-24 Thread emmexx
Il 10/24/2014 12:22 PM, Any File scrisse: Con il prmo tipo di tag sulla mappa la way appare con le tacche rosse, nel secondo caso appare come una strada in cui si può passare sempre. Infatti da un puro punto di vista di rendering, ma non e' meno importante della forma dei dati inseriti, se ci

Re: [Talk-it] Oneway vs access=no

2014-10-24 Thread Any File
2014-10-23 12:40 GMT+02:00 emmexx emm...@tiscalinet.it: Si', ma come ho gia' scritto la segnaletica orizzontale termina dopo 30 metri, prima del primo passo carraio. Da li' in poi la strada e' anche formalmente doppio senso. Il problema formale è: cosa vuol dire formalmente? Che il comune in

Re: [Talk-it] Oneway vs access=no

2014-10-24 Thread emmexx
Il 10/24/2014 12:44 PM, Any File scrisse: Il problema formale è: cosa vuol dire formalmente? Che il comune in un suo qualche documento l'ha definita a doppio senso? O dobbaimo aspettare che uno andando in senso contrario faccia un incidente, ci sia un processo e guardare cosa stabilisce il

Re: [Talk-it] Oneway vs access=no

2014-10-24 Thread Any File
2014-10-23 0:13 GMT+02:00 Mauro Costantini maurocostantini1...@gmail.com: 11. questa nota ha senso solo per un umano che comprende l'italiano e si inventa da che parte è il divieto (si riferisce alla highway più vicina? in direzione forward?) Per quanto riguarda l'orientamento (ma non ho mai

Re: [Talk-it] Oneway vs access=no

2014-10-24 Thread Any File
2014-10-24 12:08 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: 2014-10-24 11:12 GMT+02:00 Any File anysomef...@gmail.com: So che il regolamento del codice della strada chiama con delle sigle i vari cartelli, ma non riesco mai a trovare una fonte libera da cui prenderli. non puoi

Re: [Talk-it] Oneway vs access=no

2014-10-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-10-24 13:00 GMT+02:00 Any File anysomef...@gmail.com: Quando ho cercato non ho mai trovato una buona fonte, ma questo non vuol dire che non esista. penso che si dovrebbe fare una pagina in wikipedia come questa:

Re: [Talk-it] Oneway vs access=no

2014-10-24 Thread Alberto Nogaro
-Original Message- From: Any File [mailto:anysomef...@gmail.com] Sent: venerdì 24 ottobre 2014 13:01 To: openstreetmap list - italiano Subject: Re: [Talk-it] Oneway vs access=no Non è nel codice della strada ma nel regolamento di atuazione del codice della strada (se in Italia non ci

Re: [Talk-it] Aiuto:lettera da inviare a comune siciliano per l'apertura dei dati

2014-10-24 Thread Aury88
Luigi Toscano wrote Qualche estensione particolare? Puoi provare con altri browser? Devo dire che ho notato questo, cercando, che non fa pensare bene: http://forum.mozillaitalia.org/index.php?topic=45184.15 Ci sono istruzioni per configurarla con un client di posta (c'è anche un'estensione

Re: [Talk-it] Aiuto:lettera da inviare a comune siciliano per l'apertura dei dati

2014-10-24 Thread Luigi Toscano
On Friday 24 of October 2014 08:17:16 Aury88 wrote: Luigi Toscano wrote Qualche estensione particolare? Puoi provare con altri browser? Devo dire che ho notato questo, cercando, che non fa pensare bene: http://forum.mozillaitalia.org/index.php?topic=45184.15 Ci sono istruzioni per

Re: [Talk-it] Una mappa migliore Fwd: [OSM-talk] A Better Map

2014-10-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-10-23 18:03 GMT+02:00 Max1234Ita max1234...@gmail.com: In più mi pare di capire, per quanto riguarda gli import, che le cose vanno a rilento soprattutto a causa di problemi burocratici... Ecco, più che astio verso gli import è un po' di sfiducia verso i burocrati... :-) Quello che

Re: [Talk-it] Oneway vs access=no

2014-10-24 Thread Any File
Per rispondere al quesito se spezzare o meno la way dove inizia la striscia gialla, se sei sicuro fai pure (io non ho capito esattamente dove sia il punto) Vorrei scusarmi se sono parso un po' scontroso, ma vorrei ben capire come è meglio mappare in generale. Se dove certi veicoli possono

Re: [Talk-it] Oneway vs access=no

2014-10-24 Thread emmexx
Il 10/24/2014 06:13 PM, Any File scrisse: Per rispondere al quesito se spezzare o meno la way dove inizia la striscia gialla, se sei sicuro fai pure (io non ho capito esattamente dove sia il punto) Prendendo Sempione da via Canova le strisce gialle di corsia preferenziale si fermano

Re: [Talk-it] Oneway vs access=no

2014-10-24 Thread Any File
2014-10-23 0:13 GMT+02:00 Mauro Costantini maurocostantini1...@gmail.com: 7. (@AnyFile) I due tag descrivono situazioni diverse. oneway:bicycle=no (insieme a oneway=yes) dice che siamo su una strada a senso unico e le bici possono andare anche in senso opposto; bicycle:backward=yes ci dice

Re: [Talk-it] Oneway vs access=no

2014-10-24 Thread Any File
2014-10-24 18:35 GMT+02:00 emmexx emm...@tiscalinet.it: Il 10/24/2014 06:13 PM, Any File scrisse: Ma una strada che è percorribile in un senso da tutti e nell'altro è una preferenziale (con o senza bici) come va taggata? Ad esempio quelle dove ci sono i salvagenti delle fermate dei tram o

Re: [Talk-it] Aiuto:lettera da inviare a comune siciliano per l'apertura dei dati

2014-10-24 Thread Aury88
Luigi Toscano wrote Prova ugualmente ad avviare senza estensioni: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/troubleshoot-firefox-issues-using-safe-mode Niente da fare. stesso identico messaggio. Ho provato anche da un altro pc (W7 e chrome) ma nulla da fare. li il messaggio d'errore era: La pagina

Re: [Talk-it] Oneway vs access=no

2014-10-24 Thread emmexx
Il 10/24/2014 07:05 PM, Any File scrisse: Di solito dove ci sono le fermate dei tram o bus il cartello di senso unico non c'è, quello che c'è è un cartello obbligo di passare a destra (del salvagente) Non so se questa situazione e' gia' prevista dai tag di osm. Mi pare che comunque il questo

Re: [Talk-it] Mapillary in the OpenStreetMap iD Editor

2014-10-24 Thread andriatz
ottimo per i mapping party. ottimo. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Mapillary-in-the-OpenStreetMap-iD-Editor-tp5821475p5821687.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing

[Talk-at] OE1 Radiokolleg KW43 Digitalen Geoinformationssystemen auf der Spur

2014-10-24 Thread Marcus MERIGHI
Hallo Leute, diese Woche waren auf Oe1, Radiokolleg, Mo., Di., Mi. Do. jeweils 9:30 bis 9:45 Beitraege zum Thema Digitalen Geoinformationssysteme zu hoeren (ja, OSM kommt vor). Habe diese Dinger jetzt nachgehoert und dabei sind sie irgendwie auf meiner Festplatte gelandet. Gibt's allgemeines

Re: [Talk-at] OE1 Radiokolleg KW43 Digitalen Geoinformationssystemen auf der Spur

2014-10-24 Thread Lukas Bischof
Urheberrechtswahnsinn... Du darfst es ja herunterladen. Das ist nicht illegal. Wenn du hier schreibst, wo du die Aufnahmen bekommen hast, kann es jeder für sich herunterladen/anhören. btw: Ja, ich hätte Interesse. Am 24. Oktober 2014 10:33 schrieb Marcus MERIGHI mcmer-openstreet...@tor.at :

Re: [Talk-at] OE1 Radiokolleg KW43 Digitalen Geoinformationssystemen auf der Spur

2014-10-24 Thread Manuela Schmidt
Hallo, hier die Links zum online nachhören: http://oe1.orf.at/programm/385295 http://oe1.orf.at/programm/387448 http://oe1.orf.at/programm/387457 http://oe1.orf.at/programm/387523 lg Manuela Am 24.10.2014 10:50, schrieb Lukas Bischof: Urheberrechtswahnsinn... Du darfst es ja herunterladen.

Re: [Talk-at] OE1 Radiokolleg KW43 Digitalen Geoinformationssystemen auf der Spur

2014-10-24 Thread Marcus MERIGHI
lukas.bisc...@gmail.com (Lukas Bischof), 2014.10.24 (Fri) 10:50 (CEST): Urheberrechtswahnsinn... Du darfst es ja herunterladen. Offiziell dann, wenn Du zahlst (Abo). Ansonsten wollen sie nur nachhoeren auf der webseite und das nur sieben Tage lange. Das ist nicht illegal. Hier spricht

Re: [Talk-at] OE1 Radiokolleg KW43 Digitalen Geoinformationssystemen auf der Spur

2014-10-24 Thread Lukas Bischof
Danke! Und wer das MP3 herunterladen möchte, hier die Liste der MP3s. http://loopstream01.apa.at/?channel=oe1shoutcast=0ua=flashid=20141020_0930_172_1_radiokolleg2_R2K_w_ http://loopstream01.apa.at/?channel=oe1shoutcast=0ua=flashid=20141021_0930_172_1_radiokolleg2_R2K_w_

Re: [Talk-at] OE1 Radiokolleg KW43 Digitalen Geoinformationssystemen auf der Spur

2014-10-24 Thread Lukas Bischof
Hi! Vielen Dank für deine genauen Ausführungen. Ich hab den Wireshark-Traffic analysiert und komme (oh, Wunder!) zum gleichen Ergebnis. Hier spricht ein mutiger Mann oder ein einschlaegig Fachkundiger. Im letzteren Fall waere ich sehr interessiert an genaueren Ausfuehrungen. Ich berufe mich

Re: [Talk-at] OE1 Radiokolleg KW43 Digitalen Geoinformationssystemen auf der Spur

2014-10-24 Thread Marcus MERIGHI
lukas.bisc...@gmail.com (Lukas Bischof), 2014.10.24 (Fri) 13:12 (CEST): Hier spricht ein mutiger Mann oder ein einschlaegig Fachkundiger. Im letzteren Fall waere ich sehr interessiert an genaueren Ausfuehrungen. Ich berufe mich dabei auf die Ausführungen meines Professors an der FH

Re: [Talk-at] OE1 Radiokolleg KW43 Digitalen Geoinformationssystemen auf der Spur

2014-10-24 Thread Lukas Bischof
Bei der schnellen Wikipedia-Recherche habe ich den Paragrafen bekommen, ich wusste, es war etwas mit 40 ;) http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privatkopie#.C3.96sterreich Weiter unten steht, dass man wirksame Kopierschutzmaßnahmen dabei nicht umgehen darf. Ich folgere daraus: Wenn ich das Ding im

Re: [Talk-at] OE1 Radiokolleg KW43 Digitalen Geoinformationssystemen auf der Spur

2014-10-24 Thread Andreas Labres
Hi! On 24.10.14 10:33, Marcus MERIGHI wrote: Gibt's allgemeines Interesse daran oder eh nur einzelne? Wenn ersteres, dann ersuche ich um Vorschlaege, das ohne Urheberrechts-Wahnsinn abzuhandeln. Wenn zweiteres, dann wuerd' ich's einfach ueber private Nachrichten loesen. Also ich hätte sie

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