Hello Marek,
On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 02:30:17 +0100 GMT (24/12/2008, 08:30 +0700 GMT),
Marek Mikus wrote:
MM as I expect, there will be minor version updates yet, but AFAIK
MM IMAP is no the way.
^^?
Just out of curiosity: Did you mean to write not the way, or now
the way?
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Cheers,
Hello Jens,
On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:26:02 +0100 GMT (24/12/2008, 20:26 +0700 GMT),
Jens Franik wrote:
JF And maybe it is time to think about, if you could split The_Bat into
JF modules - if you do not need calender, could you choose to unselect it
JF in the install?
I'm all in favour of
[Reply to: »Thomas Fernandez« · 2008-12-25 · 17:10 h (CET)]
Moin, Thomas!
MM as I expect, there will be minor version updates yet, but AFAIK
MM IMAP is no the way.
^^?
Just out of curiosity: Did you mean to write not the way, or now
the way?
I guess IMAP is on the way. :-)
Hello all,
Thursday, December 25, 2008, Volker Ahrendt wrote:
MM as I expect, there will be minor version updates yet, but AFAIK
MM IMAP is no the way.
^^?
Just out of curiosity: Did you mean to write not the way, or now
the way?
I guess IMAP is on the way.
thank You Volker
Mittwoch, 24. Dezember 2008 at 02:28, Marek Mikus wrote:
RSS is very popular for home users and in many reviews I saw, internal RSS
support is con for The Bat!. But I agree, Calendar should be focused before
There are a lot of RSS Readers which are based on Java and availiable on
many
Hello all,
Wednesday, December 24, 2008, Jens Franik wrote:
There are a lot of RSS Readers which are based on Java and availiable on
many platforms - there for.
maybe, but many users do like Java-based apps, I must say, I do not like
them too.
And maybe it is time to think about, if you
Hello all,
Wednesday, December 24, 2008, Peter Ouwehand wrote:
MM I do not expect, such feature will be yet implemented, there are
MM more important features like calendar or internal RSS support.
Uh? What is important about internal RSS support?
Please first supply IMAP and calendar
Hello all,
Wednesday, December 24, 2008, Peter Ouwehand wrote:
MM developers wrote, new implementation of IMAP will be integrated after 4.1
MM release, because it uses new index file format introduced now, so stay
MM tuned.
Assuming RIT wrote after 4.1 release, then we still don't know much.
[Reply to: »Arjan de Groot« · 2008-12-17 · 03:01 h (CET)]
Moin, Arjan!
We are ALL customers who VOLUNTEERED to beta test
I guess yelling up and running in reply to any of the frequent
Alfa-, Beta-, RC- or whatever version announcements, or answering
questions of even more d*m***t*d The Beta!
Dear Rick,
-- Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2008, 05:30:01:
Are you insinuating that they don't appreciate my well crafted
up and running postings? I work hard on those!
I'm sure Ritlabs are thrilled to bits by your revelatory
communications, but alas they won't get you a free ride.
What can
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:57:31 +0100, Jens Franik wrote:
developers wrote, new implementation of IMAP will be integrated after 4.1
release, because it uses new index file format introduced now, so stay
tuned.
Marek, i tried to use IMAP, but it did not work recently.
If this is to become true in a
am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 um 20:43 schrieb Hans Stam:
Pegasus Mail has a very nice, FREE, 4.51 version.
The internation Version is 4.41
Pegasus sometimes ago has been a very sober Mailclient.
I think the main difference is that professional Users would like to
have the features of The-Bat
am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 um 21:08 schrieb Marek Mikus:
IMAP implementation?
developers wrote, new implementation of IMAP will be integrated after 4.1
release, because it uses new index file format introduced now, so stay
tuned.
Marek, i tried to use IMAP, but it did not work
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:06:24 +0200, Eddie Castelli wrote:
What can I say? I have become a Ritlabs automaton. []
No you have become a BAT!holic. UR is just the same RITual
as, let's say, skoal with a good glass of wine. []
Yes, Bat!holicism is like religion. Pray with me:
Hail Ritlabs, full of
am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 um 20:58 schrieb Hans Stam:
Not agree, besides that, the program has also RSS and newsgroups..
You never tried out Blogbridge and RSSowl - this is what i think of a
suitable RSS Reader...
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Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jens Franik
mailto:je...@gmx.de
Picture of me?
am Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2008 um 11:41 schrieb Arjan de Groot:
Yes, Bat!holicism is like religion. Pray with me
You SHOULD stop now, this is going to be nearly blasphemy.
Could the Moderators please think about some actions?
--
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jens Franik
mailto:je...@gmx.de
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!!
Someday, and that was in Monday evening, Volker wrote something like this:
4. 0.x is not supported anymore too.
do not understand, what You mean by not supported, latest bugfix
for 4.0.x was released three weeks ago.
Yes. But there will be no butfixes
Hi Christian,
Why the HELL do you guys think i should pay for an upgrade to 4.x when
not even half the bugs have been fixed from 3.x??
Well, interface got a slight makeover, hasn't it? Makes it a little
harder to read and wastes a little more screen space than before, but
it's
am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 um 10:08 schrieb Gunivortus Goos:
My problem with The Bat! there isn't an Open Source alternative yet
Thats not true, i take a look at Thunderbird with Lightning and is has
all basic Features which The_Bat has, at least with extensions.
I did tell very often
Hello Volker,
Monday, December 15, 2008, 10:25:59 PM, you wrote:
4.0.x is not supported anymore too.
do not understand, what You mean by not supported, latest bugfix
for 4.0.x was released three weeks ago.
Yes. But there will be no butfixes further.
Are there any known *showstoppers* for
Hi,
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 1:00:25 PM, you wrote:
What I really expect/want - ROADMAP.
I second that.
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Best regards,
Robert Tomanekmailto:tbb...@mail.robert.tomanek.org
Current beta is 4.1.1.5 |
[Reply to: »Sebastian Murawski« · 2008-12-16 · 09:17 h (CET)]
Moin, Sebastian!
4. 0.x is not supported anymore too.
do not understand, what You mean by not supported, latest
bugfix for 4.0.x was released three weeks ago.
Yes. But there will be no butfixes further.
Are there any known
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!!
Someday, and that was in Tuesday morning, Volker wrote something like this:
Yes. But there will be no butfixes further.
Are there any known *showstoppers* for that release cycle? I really
cannot remember one …
Maybe:
I think you got me wrong: All the
Hello Robert,
What I really expect/want - ROADMAP.
I second that.
Isn't Google Maps good enough? ;-)
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v4.1.1.5 RC1 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3
NO WAY!
Of course not. Since the TheBat developement desaster has been
established (and this tragedy has been going on for years, let noone
say there were no warnings) I've been transitioning the clients I
service away from TheBat, some towards free alternatives like
ThunderBird, some to
Hans... PocoMail is a very bad copy of TheBat! with a very ugly interface... :-(
--
Mackley
who tries every client mailreader for PC Windows !
Current beta is 4.1.1.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
Hans... PocoMail is a very bad copy of TheBat! with a very ugly
interface... :-(
Not agree, besides that, the program has also RSS and newsgroups..
--
Mackley
who tries every client mailreader for PC Windows !
Current
[Reply to: »Hans Stam« · 2008-12-16 · 20:43 h (CET)]
Moin, Hans!
Of course not. Since the TheBat developement desaster has been
established (and this tragedy has been going on for years, let noone
say there were no warnings) I've been transitioning the clients I
service away from TheBat,
Hello all,
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, Hans Stam wrote:
Pegasus Mail has a very nice, FREE, 4.51 version.
http://community.pmail.com/files/folders/11243/download.aspx
As a registered user of The Bat! I read all the discussions here about
pay or not pay for a new update,
remember: Pegasus
Hello all,
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, Hans Stam wrote:
Hans... PocoMail is a very bad copy of TheBat! with a very ugly
interface... :-(
Not agree, besides that, the program has also RSS and newsgroups..
who uses newsgroups today? I have used them since 1999, but for today, this
is a dead
Hello all,
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, Robert Tomanek wrote:
Something resembling a proper IMAP implementation? In other words, a
promise that has been made and broken, several times?
developers wrote, new implementation of IMAP will be integrated after 4.1
release, because it uses new index
Hello Hans,
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 9:58:10 PM, you wrote:
Not agree, besides that, the program has also RSS and newsgroups..
...which both could be implemented via plugins.
I read and post usenet news using The Bat (though I am also user of Forte
Agent and beta tester of it)
I could
Hello Marek,
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 9:07:03 PM, you wrote:
who uses newsgroups today? I have used them since 1999, but for today, this
is a dead service.
I do. As do many people.
BTW newsgroups can be integrated to The Bat! bia external utility.
Agreed. And, this is not a priority
Hello all,
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, Robert Tomanek wrote:
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 9:07:03 PM, you wrote:
who uses newsgroups today? I have used them since 1999, but for today, this
is a dead service.
I do. As do many people.
and for which purpose, if I can ask?
BTW newsgroups can
On Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 1:58:10 PM, Hans Stam wrote:
Not agree, besides that, the program has also RSS and newsgroups..
My Swiss Army Knife has a corkscrew.
--
Dwight A. Corrin
316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax
dcorrin at fastmail.fm
photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com
photo
Hi Volker,
on Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:16:43 +0100GMT (16.12.2008, 11:16 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:
VA ... All the bugs listed below (except the two UTF-7 bugs in IMAP
VA and two minor bugs) *are* fixed in the 4.0.x release cycle, i.e.
VA with a 4.0.39.39 all these bugs are fixed and you do not need
Hallo Christian,
I don't get the point why all the Beta Testers have to renew anything.
Ich read this E-Mail-List, I test and evaluate this software, I take
some time to answer questions or to ask some... why do I have to pay?
--
Gruß Roman
Hallo Christian,
I don't get the point why all the Beta Testers have to renew anything.
Ich read this E-Mail-List, I test and evaluate this software, I take
some time to answer questions or to ask some... why do I have to pay?
We are ALL customers who VOLUNTEERED to beta test
--
Rick
Hi Mackley,
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:47:01 PM, you wrote:
Hans... PocoMail is a very bad copy of TheBat! with a very ugly interface...
:-(
And the last time I tried it, couldn't cope with hundreds of thousands
of emails and search.
Doug
--
Doug Weller Moderator,
Hi Mackley,
Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:47:01 PM, you wrote:
Hans... PocoMail is a very bad copy of TheBat! with a very ugly interface...
:-(
And the last time I tried it, couldn't cope with hundreds of thousands
of emails and search.
I tried POco and it has a slick interface but if
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:25:01 -0500, Rick wrote:
Ich read this E-Mail-List, I test and evaluate this software,
I take some time to answer questions or to ask some... why do
I have to pay?
We are ALL customers who VOLUNTEERED to beta test
I guess yelling up and running in reply to any of the
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:25:01 -0500, Rick wrote:
Ich read this E-Mail-List, I test and evaluate this software,
I take some time to answer questions or to ask some... why do
I have to pay?
We are ALL customers who VOLUNTEERED to beta test
I guess yelling up and running in reply to any of the
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:13:32 -0500, Rick wrote:
Are you insinuating that they don't appreciate my well crafted
up and running postings? I work hard on those!
I'm sure Ritlabs are thrilled to bits by your revelatory
communications, but alas they won't get you a free ride.
Arjan
--
[Non-text
Are you insinuating that they don't appreciate my well crafted
up and running postings? I work hard on those!
I'm sure Ritlabs are thrilled to bits by your revelatory
communications, but alas they won't get you a free ride.
What can I say? I have become a Ritlabs automaton. They say PAY! and
Marek,
On 16-12-2008 21:08, you wrote in mid:46439853.20081216210...@ipex.cz:
Something resembling a proper IMAP implementation? In other words, a
promise that has been made and broken, several times?
developers wrote, new implementation of IMAP will be integrated after 4.1
release,
Once again Ritlabs has done it again.
This is the last straw and the last email i will send with TB! Very
sad since i have used it (registered / licensed) since 1.x.
But enough is enough!
Why the HELL do you guys think i should pay for an upgrade to 4.x when
not even half the bugs
Hello Christian,
Why the HELL do you guys think i should pay for an upgrade to 4.x when
not even half the bugs have been fixed from 3.x?? And since the
functionality / design / usage / etc. is still 3.x - this is
ridiculous to call this version 4.x - just because you need
Hi MAU,
Monday, December 15, 2008, 9:02:41 AM, you wrote:
Hello Christian,
Why the HELL do you guys think i should pay for an upgrade to 4.x when
not even half the bugs have been fixed from 3.x?? And since the
functionality / design / usage / etc. is still 3.x - this is
Hello all,
Monday, December 15, 2008, Christian Grams wrote:
Once again Ritlabs has done it again.
This is the last straw and the last email i will send with TB! Very
sad since i have used it (registered / licensed) since 1.x.
But enough is enough!
Why the HELL do you guys think i
Hello Bob,
I agree that Christian went a bit overboard in his frustration, and I
had questions about the upgrade myself (considering that I renewed my
license in 21 November 2007, thinking it would be valid into version
4.1, and it wasn't - although that was clarified in the February 2008
Guten Tag MAU,
am Montag, 15. Dezember 2008 um 19:46 schrieben Sie:
Hello Bob,
I agree that Christian went a bit overboard in his frustration, and I
had questions about the upgrade myself (considering that I renewed my
license in 21 November 2007, thinking it would be valid into version
Sveiki,
Monday, December 15, 2008, 7:36:30 PM, you wrote:
Hello all,
Monday, December 15, 2008, Christian Grams wrote:
Once again Ritlabs has done it again.
This is the last straw and the last email i will send with TB! Very
sad since i have used it (registered / licensed) since 1.x.
Hello Christian,
Monday, December 15, 2008, 5:09:24 PM, you wrote:
Once again Ritlabs has done it again.
This is the last straw and the last email i will send with TB! Very
sad since i have used it (registered / licensed) since 1.x.
But enough is enough!
Why the HELL do you guys think
Hello Bob,
If one is extremely self-controlled and thoughtful, including having
good genes and good parenting and a regular spiritual life, having
relatively low life stress, and/or having a fundamentally holistic
view of people, yes.
All those fancy words and phrasing just to say grown up?
Hello Vilius,
But I think he was referring to that nothing changed in those 4 years.
That's not true. Splash screen has changed a few times. ;-)
He can't use 3.x anymore because it's still buggy and not supported.
,- [ From the License Agreement (that document no one ever reads) ]
|
|
Hello Christian,
One can 'ventilate' disagreement (even strong disagreement) and
frustration with a little more respect for people working very very hard
to earn an honest living. Don't you think so?
Of course you can, but you can also show respect to paying customers.
Please see my
Hello all,
Monday, December 15, 2008, Vilius Šumskas wrote:
You are right. But I think he was referring to that nothing changed
in those 4 years. Version 3.x and 4.x differs only in bug fixed
and some changed glyphs. He can't use 3.x anymore because it's still
buggy and not supported.
You are right. But I think he was referring to that nothing changed
in those 4 years. Version 3.x and 4.x differs only in bug fixed
and some changed glyphs. He can't use 3.x anymore because it's still
buggy and not supported. At the same time he don't want to pay for bug
fixes that
Sveiki,
Monday, December 15, 2008, 10:48:27 PM, you wrote:
He can't use 3.x anymore because it's still buggy and not supported.
,- [ From the License Agreement (that document no one ever reads) ]
|
..
`-
BTW, quite similar wording to License Agreements of many other software I
Sveiki,
Monday, December 15, 2008, 10:53:55 PM, you wrote:
Hello all,
Monday, December 15, 2008, Vilius Šumskas wrote:
You are right. But I think he was referring to that nothing changed
in those 4 years. Version 3.x and 4.x differs only in bug fixed
and some changed glyphs. He
Hello all,
Monday, December 15, 2008, Vilius Šumskas wrote:
4.0.x is not supported anymore too.
do not understand, what You mean by not supported, latest bugfix for
4.0.x was released three weeks ago.
--
Bye
Marek Mikus
Czech support of The Bat!
http://www.thebat.cz
Using the best The Bat!
Sveiki,
Monday, December 15, 2008, 11:10:17 PM, you wrote:
Hello all,
Monday, December 15, 2008, Vilius Šumskas wrote:
4.0.x is not supported anymore too.
do not understand, what You mean by not supported, latest bugfix for
4.0.x was released three weeks ago.
Yes. But there will be no
Hello all,
Monday, December 15, 2008, Vilius Šumskas wrote:
Well, legally RitLabs maybe right. But in any business you should
pay respect to clients, e.g. supporting old version and fixing
critical bugs at least for some time after next major version is
released. Or change
[Reply to: »Vilius Šumskas« · 2008-12-15 · 22:14 h (CET)]
Moin, Vilius!
4.0.x is not supported anymore too.
do not understand, what You mean by not supported, latest bugfix
for 4.0.x was released three weeks ago.
Yes. But there will be no butfixes further.
Are there any known
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