[Reply to: »Marek Mikus« · 2008-02-26 · 21:39 h (CET)]
Moin, Marek!
Until now I thought it was an internal problem in my company, but
now I am sure The Bat! is the root cause of the socks server
problem.
thanks, reported in https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6866
Maybe it is a good
[Reply to: »Volker Ahrendt« · 2008-02-27 · 13:22 h (CET)]
thanks, reported in https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6866
Maybe it is a good idea to implement Socks Server Support in The Bat!
itself like in Mozilla Thunderbird:
Under Options|Network Administration - Tab Network
[x] Use
[Reply to: »Vili« · 2008-02-27 · 17:06 h (CET)]
Moin, Vili!
In some simple words, what is SocksCap is good for? Read the info on
the net, but I dont really get it...
Read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOCKS
Cheers!
VA
- --
QA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] — [2008-02-27]
Direct eMail without
[Reply to: »Marek Mikus« · 2008-02-25 · 11:47 h (CET)]
Moin!
From user:
Currently I am back on 3.99.29 through SocksCap, I confirm what I
wrote: On the v4 copy (registered with my v3 license), launched
through SocksCap, all connections are made DIRECTLY to the mail
servers and do NOT go
Hello all,
Tuesday, February 26, 2008, Volker Ahrendt wrote:
Confirmed!
Just tested with …
… 3.99.29 through SocksCap - Okay!
… 4.0.14.7 through SocksCap - Server not found!
Until now I thought it was an internal problem in my company, but now
I am sure The Bat! is the root cause of the
Hi, Marek.
anybody uses The Bat! 4.0 with SocksCap for connecting to server via
Socks? One user reports in forum, he can't use it after upgrading to 4.0,
maybe it is because rewritten socket support in 4.0.0.13, but nobody
reported this yet as I remember.
I heard the same.
My tests were
Thanks, Henk.
That explains why I couldn't find the messages on the list. :-)
--
Keith
Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Hello all,
Wednesday, December 12, 2007, Ethan J. Mings wrote:
3 RSS plugins exists already, even they are not perfect and there are some
limitations in Bat.
Can you tell where I can find the RSS Plugins?
I am preparing info, please wait.
--
Bye
Marek Mikus
Czech support of The Bat!
Henk M. de Bruijn wrote:
I asked this on October 18th. What a pity that next to the news about
update policy of 11/7/2007 and the license policy of 11/19/2207 there
is no communication with tbbeta about what is next :-(
Can you post what appeared in these two messages? I don't seem to be
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007, at 21:02:29 [GMT -0700] (which was 5:02 where I
live) Keith Russell wrote:
Can you post what appeared in these two messages? I don't seem to be
able to find either
http://www.ritlabs.com/
--
Henk M. de Bruijn
Guten Tag Thomas Fernandez,
am Montag, 10. Dezember 2007 um 14:50 schrieben Sie:
JF Any Content, which is not included in the Mail(s) has not to be
JF displayed until i give explicitly permission to access the
JF Internet for this.
Agreed. The suggestion is to allow this permission. It is not
Hi MikeD (2),
OK ... All I do is click on the 'html icon' on the left side
attachment list and ... glorisoki, my HTML content is rendered by
Firefox. No muss no fuss. What am I missing in this discussion?
That's exactly what I don't want.
If TB is able to read and write in HTML mode, it
Hello all,
Tuesday, December 11, 2007, Gunivortus Goos wrote:
OK ... All I do is click on the 'html icon' on the left side
attachment list and ... glorisoki, my HTML content is rendered by
Firefox. No muss no fuss. What am I missing in this discussion?
That's exactly what I don't want.
If
Hello MikeD,
Tuesday, December 11, 2007, 1:33:58 PM, you wrote:
M2 OK ... All I do is click on the 'html icon' on the left side
M2 attachment list and ... glorisoki, my HTML content is rendered by
M2 Firefox. No muss no fuss. What am I missing in this discussion?
Now, do that with an
Hello Jens,
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:49:46 +0100 GMT (11/12/2007, 16:49 +0700 GMT),
Jens Franik wrote:
Agreed. The suggestion is to allow this permission. It is not possible
now.
JF Maybe it would be a idea to make detailed Permission, for Example from
JF the (E-Mail)Senders Domain only...
JF
Hello MikeD,
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:34:13 -0500 GMT (11/12/2007, 19:34 +0700 GMT),
MikeD (2) wrote:
M2 I would rather that TB =not= get bogged down with all the bloat (and
M2 the cost in terms of development hours) needed to implement a fully
M2 functional HTML editor ... especially when there
Guten Tag MikeD (2),
am Dienstag, 11. Dezember 2007 um 13:33 schrieben Sie:
OK ... All I do is click on the 'html icon' on the left side
attachment list and ... glorisoki, my HTML content is rendered by
Firefox. No muss no fuss. What am I missing in this discussion?
That's exactly the same,
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007, at 14:11:12 [GMT +0100] (which was 14:11 where I
live) Marek Mikus wrote:
Hello Marek,
...*snipped*
AFAIK version 4.0 will be able to download images to HTML messages.
Will this be a Christmas version?
--
Henk ;-)
Ethan,
On 11-12-2007 13:23, you wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
RSS as a plug in for TheBat would be most helpful.
Yes. Very.
--
greeting Best regards /greeting
author Peter Fjelsten /author
thebat version 3.99.3 Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras
env. 2 POP3, 14 IMAP (Courier)
Hello all,
Tuesday, December 11, 2007, Peter Fjelsten wrote:
On 11-12-2007 13:23, you wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
RSS as a plug in for TheBat would be most helpful.
Yes. Very.
3 RSS plugins exists already, even they are not perfect and there are some
limitations in Bat.
--
Bye
Marek
Marek,
On 11-12-2007 19:38, you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
3 RSS plugins exists already, even they are not perfect and there are
some limitations in Bat.
Really? Do you have a link?
What are the limitations (assuming that these are not described at the
links you will hopefully send)?
--
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007, at 19:01:52 [GMT +0100] (which was 19:01 where I
live) Henk M. de Bruijn wrote:
Will this be a Christmas version?
I meant Christmas edition...
--
Henk ;-)
_
The Bat! E-Mail System version 3.99.29 Pro on
Hello MikeD,
Tuesday, December 11, 2007, 5:39:52 PM, you wrote:
M2 Well ... I have no idea what the sender =intended= it look like wink
M2 I can only say that I (normally) don't see anything that looks
M2 wrong. Occasionally there will be a problem with the net and
M2 something won't come down,
On Tuesday, December 11, 2007, 12:01:52 PM, Henk M. de Bruijn wrote:
AFAIK version 4.0 will be able to download images to HTML messages.
Will this be a Christmas version?
lets hope not, unless this list is now out of the loop and all the
beta testing goes on and has been transpiring somewhere
Guten Tag MikeD (2),
am Montag, 10. Dezember 2007 um 12:55 schrieben Sie:
What normal user expect is:
1. HTML templates
2. HTML pictures
MS Yes, that is important. More and more newsletters are not readable
MS without showing the pcitures.
And that drives me nuts sigh I am quite happy
Hello Jens,
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:36:39 +0100 GMT (10/12/2007, 20:36 +0700 GMT),
Jens Franik wrote:
JF I'd neither have an HTML View as Default or Unchangable Setting.
This won't happen. HTML view will always be an option, with plaintext
preffered by many.
JF Any Content, which is not
Hello Gunivortus,
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:56:51 +0100 GMT (10/12/2007, 20:56 +0700 GMT),
Gunivortus Goos wrote:
GG I'm one of them who is getting dayly several newsletters,
GG and e-papers by abonnement and weekly several e-zines. For
GG all of them I need full html display, including pictures.
Dear Bob,
-- Mittwoch, 5. Dezember 2007, 18:57:47:
This is just my opinion, but it does seem to me that there is here
a lot of ill will towards Rit, and anger with having to deal with
the brokenness that will appear in betas.
I agree that the Beta list has taken on an unproductive and I
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007, at 08:37:53 [GMT +0200] (which was 7:37 where I
live) Henk M. de Bruijn wrote:
What about a roadmap?
I asked this on October 18th. What a pity that next to the news about
update policy of 11/7/2007 and the license policy of 11/19/2207 there
is no communication with tbbeta
On Tuesday, December 4, 2007, 11:43:16 AM, Henk M. de Bruijn wrote:
I asked this on October 18th. What a pity that next to the news
about update policy of 11/7/2007 and the license policy of
11/19/2207 there is no communication with tbbeta about what is next
:-(
I agree, but what we got was
Dear Cees,
-- Dienstag, 4. Dezember 2007, 21:18:27:
Sounds to me like some sort of awful mickeysoft bells and whistles
program.
But then again maybe it won't be as bad as it all sounds.
But if a new Version shall be released, why is the TB!beta ML not
involved in giving their view?
On Friday, November 9, 2007, 11:31:15 PM, Henk M. de Bruijn wrote:
What about a roadmap?
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/news_detail.php?ID=2240
I read that several times, and I'm still sure what it says.
--
Dwight A. Corrin
1201 W River Blvd Apt B108
Wichita KS 67203
316.303.9385
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007, at 03:25:54 [GMT -0600] (which was 10:25 where I
live) Dwight Corrin wrote:
On Friday, November 9, 2007, 11:31:15 PM, Henk M. de Bruijn wrote:
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/news_detail.php?ID=2240
I read that several times, and I'm still sure what it says.
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007, at 16:26:16 [GMT +0100] (which was 16:26 where I
live) Netvicious wrote:
sooorry! I sent this message without reading the link.
Let's test!
--
Henk M. de Bruijn
__
The Bat! E-Mail System version 3.99.29
On Saturday, November 10, 2007, 5:55:26 AM, Kertész Vilmos wrote:
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/news_detail.php?ID=2240
I read that several times, and I'm still sure what it says.
Sure or not sure?
:-)
Your v3 key will work with v4.0.x. New code will need for v4.1.x and
above.
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007, at 08:37:53 [GMT +0200] (which was 7:37 where I
live) Henk M. de Bruijn wrote:
What about a roadmap?
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/news_detail.php?ID=2240
--
grtz,
Henk M.
__
The Bat! E-Mail
On Friday, October 12, 2007, 7:45:51 PM, Gleason Pace wrote:
Interesting. One of the things I positively didn't like about
Mulberry was the necessity to delete messages twice. If I delete
it, I want it to be gone. All gone. POP users have survived a long
time without needing to deleting
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!!
Someday, and that was in night, Krzysztof wrote something like this:
Tell me why this happen?
I suspect a quite a big number of reasons are involved. Frequency
of releases being a lesser one. I'd roughly say:
(...)
But this is RITs side. Normal user do not
Hello Sebastian,
On Monday, October 15, 2007 Sebastian Murawski wrote:
What is this:?
Nie da się - każde konto musi mieć swój własny zestaw standardowych
folderów.
OK, true: each account has to have its own set of folders. But you can
just hide them, and forget them. This doesn't really
Sveiki,
Hello all,
Sunday, October 14, 2007, Sebastian Murawski wrote:
When version change and you must pay for new licence? Yes, I expect
really big changes and privately one little bugfix (regression fix)
- https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5690.
did You paid for upgrade from 3.0
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!!
Someday, and that was in morning, Hans wrote something like this:
I am a registered user of The Bat! but also of Pocomail, try this
program, has a lot of features, The Bat! does not have! Or try Mokum
Mail, http://www.blokker.net/whatsnew.htm As a
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!!
Someday, and that was in night, Marek wrote something like this:
When version change and you must pay for new licence? Yes, I
expect really big changes and privately one little bugfix
(regression fix)
-
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!!
Someday, and that was in afternoon, Paul wrote something like this:
Voyager has been a literal life saver for me and many customers who
are in parts of the world where it is mandatory to have one's email
literally in their pocket to avoid persecution and
Sveiki,
10/14/2007 5:59 AM
Hi Vilius,
On 10/14/2007 Vilius �umskas wrote:
V� We've got new filtering system and a native XP look during v2.x beta
cycle. Why rewrite it
V� a third time? Ritlabs just don't get it. Users that use MAPI or IMAP
V� does filtering ON THE SERVER. And they use
Hello all,
Sunday, October 14, 2007, Sebastian Murawski wrote:
And in v4 we have plans for:
- improved Unicode support
- new GUI = new customiser, message list pane?
[+] First usable new filtering system
this feature is from TB 2.13 Lucky Beta1
yes, this was 3.0 beta cycle, but for
Sveiki,
I beg to differ. Having a message base reside on a server is exactly
what needs to be avoided. The message base that resides in encrypted
form on the flash drive in my pocket is under my control. I will need
to be killed for someone to have access to it. I will not be killed
because
I beg to differ. Having a message base reside on a server is exactly
what needs to be avoided. The message base that resides in encrypted
form on the flash drive in my pocket is under my control. I will need
to be killed for someone to have access to it. I will not be killed
because someone
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:22:24 +0300, Vilius umskas wrote:
I beg to differ. Having a message base reside on a server is exactly
what needs to be avoided. The message base that resides in encrypted
form on the flash drive in my pocket is under my control. I will need
to be killed for someone to
Ritlabs just don't get it. Users that use MAPI or IMAP
does filtering ON THE SERVER.
Server sieves (as Mulberry calls them) are limited compared to what a
client can do, and TB does.
It depends on the server you are using. For example Cyrus Sieve
filtering system is as advanced as TB! if not
Hello Sebastian,
On Saturday, October 13, 2007 Sebastian Murawski wrote:
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!!
Someday, and that was in evening, Marek wrote something like this:
So
1. GUI - like in v3 upgrade
afaik we can expect huge change in V4, nothing small as themes in V3
OK, but
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!!
Someday, and that was in afternoon, Paul wrote something like this:
In your own words, But this is not for normal users - it is to
difficult, not ergonomic.
You see this application even one time? Example: is it for you
difficult to extract zip
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!!
Someday, and that was in afternoon, Marek wrote something like this:
And something about RIT updates:
http://fileforum.betanews.com/review/942557075/2/view
do You really trust fileforum comments? some of users who rated it
with one star did not saw thebat
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!!
Someday, and that was in afternoon, Krzysztof wrote something like
this:
So
1. GUI - like in v3 upgrade
afaik we can expect huge change in V4, nothing small as themes in
V3
OK, but this is still only GUI - maybe big changes but this is
still
Vilius,
On 13-10-2007 12:12, you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
And by the way I'm using Office 2007 and Outlook Express at work at
the moment and as a long time IMAP user (like 7 years), I still think
that their IMAP is superior (I'm not talking about other their stuff
though).
I agree, .
Hello Sebastian,
On Sunday, October 14, 2007 Sebastian Murawski wrote:
I think you miss the point of what UI is. The way you think about it
seems to rather remind skins than GUI rework. The the truth is that
GUI is not about the way TB looks, but about the way TB interacts
with users.
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!!
Someday, and that was in evening, Krzysztof wrote something like this:
And this small steps bring us to point:
1. There is no new plugins and old are not developed
2. Big discussion lists and forums, sites slowly dying (tb-l,
bat-mail.de.vu,
Hello Sebastian,
On Sunday, October 14, 2007 Sebastian Murawski wrote:
Read fileforum comments. This is only example.
Ritlabs' fault is that they didn't draw a very thick line between
betas and release versions. Most of the too often releases are betas.
And it is perfectly valid to issue a beta
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!!
Someday, and that was in evening, Marek wrote something like this:
So
1. GUI - like in v3 upgrade
afaik we can expect huge change in V4, nothing small as themes in V3
OK, but this is still only GUI - maybe big changes but this is still
cosmetic thing for
Sveiki,
Vilius,
I guess I am going to have to disagree with that. TB Imap is not
perfect, but it is the pick of my list which includes:
Execuse me, but TB!'s IMAP is a crap. It's not even in alpha stage. In
fact I haven't seen worse IMAP implementation. My students at
university write
Hello all,
Saturday, October 13, 2007, Sebastian Murawski wrote:
do You really expect all features in 4.0? Do You expect major
changes between 3.99 and 4.00?
When version change and you must pay for new licence? Yes, I expect
really big changes and privately one little bugfix
Hi Paul!
I don't get IMAP calls when they use other email clients.
Seems you have already found the answer to your problem.
...which comes back to the bottom line of my post which started this
subthread:
Ritlabs, please add long promised and paid state of the art features MOST
mail client big
Hi Paul!
Seems you have already found the answer to your problem.
Ritlabs, please add long promised and paid state of the art features
MOST mail client big players offer smootly to your planned state of the
art interface!
I am confused, you said, please add...state of the art features MOST
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!!
Someday, and that was in evening, Marek wrote something like this:
do You really expect all features in 4.0? Do You expect major
changes between 3.99 and 4.00?
When version change and you must pay for new licence? Yes, I expect
really big changes and
Hello all,
Sunday, October 14, 2007, Sebastian Murawski wrote:
When version change and you must pay for new licence? Yes, I expect
really big changes and privately one little bugfix (regression fix)
- https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5690.
did You paid for upgrade from 3.0 to 3.0.1,
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!!
Someday, and that was in evening, Marek wrote something like this:
do You really expect all features in 4.0? Do You expect
major changes between 3.99 and 4.00?
When version change and you must pay for new licence? Yes, I
expect really big changes and
On Friday, October 12, 2007 @ 6:16:34 AM [-0700], Henk M. de Bruijn wrote:
What's the situation? Any bètatesting for this version or...
Hah! Had me going there for a second. Saw the subject line and thought
that 4.0 was ready for download!
--
Matt
Using 3.99.20 (BETA) on Windows Vista 6.0
Peter,
On 12-10-2007 21:15, you wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
MS I think that a state of the art modern interface should come with
MS state of the art features like IMAP and newsgroups ability.
In case of IMAP I have to agree.
Me too.
--
greeting Best regards /greeting
author Peter
Hi Vili!
Friday, October 12, 2007, 6:06:15 PM:
What's the situation? Any bètatesting for this version or...
yes, it will be, You must wait, work in progress :-)
release date
I'm more interested if features promised for v2 will be available for v4.
Or if this is just another milk the cows
Hi Gleason!
Hasn't everyone seen this? Well maybe not, so here it is from the
Ritlabs website:
The largest-scale changes were made in The Bat!’s interface.
Users will see a totally new program.
[...]
Sounds fancy and supports exactly what I wanted to say: A lot of cosmetic
fixes and some
Hello all,
Friday, October 12, 2007, Peter Hampf wrote:
What I want is a sota eMail client, not more and not less. No newsgroup
support and no mini browser and nothing that cooks my coffee or answers my
phone. o-)
newsgroup is not planned, from my POV, this is almost dead service.
--
Bye
Hello all,
Friday, October 12, 2007, Henk M. de Bruijn wrote:
What's the situation? Any bètatesting for this version or...
yes, it will be, You must wait, work in progress :-)
--
Bye
Marek Mikus
Czech support of The Bat!
http://www.thebat.cz
Using the best The Bat! 3.99.24
under Windows XP
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!!
Someday, and that was in evening, Gleason wrote something like this:
yes, it will be, You must wait, work in progress
release date
I'm more interested if features promised for v2 will be available
for v4. Or if this is just another milk the cows release.
Marek Mikus wrote:
8. Linux version
I do not think, we will ever see The Bat! under Linux, if will be developed
in Delphi. And really do not think, You can do business in this platform,
nobody wants to pay for apps, because everything is free.
The Bat! is the one application I would
Hello all,
Friday, October 12, 2007, Sebastian Murawski wrote:
So
1. GUI - like in v3 upgrade
afaik we can expect huge change in V4, nothing small as themes in V3
2. Account wizard - it works now? .dsi files hmmm ... ??
3. message labels
For me nothing special. I forgot! I can add:
Hi Mike,
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:59:27 -0500 UTC (10/12/2007, 6:59 PM -0500 UTC my
time), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
t TheBat!'s IMAP handling is crude and unpredictable. I would never trust
t it in a production environment. The HTML display is not tolerable until
t we have the choice to display
Sveiki,
Alto,
Guten Morgen,
MS I'm complaining every six months or so about the company's
MS politics and the priority of issues, bugs and stuff like this and
MS it seems that I am the almost the only one who isn't happy with
MS this.
I'd rephrase that: You're one of the few that haven't
Hi Gleason,
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 20:45:51 -0400 UTC (10/12/2007, 7:45 PM -0500 UTC my
time), Gleason Pace wrote:
G Interesting. One of the things I positively didn't like about
G Mulberry was the necessity to delete messages twice. If I delete it,
G I want it to be gone. All gone. POP users
Hi Gleason,
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:19:32 -0400 UTC (10/12/2007, 8:19 PM -0500 UTC my
time), Gleason Pace wrote:
G I also subscribe to the Mulberry and Pegasus discussion lists. It is
G worthy of remark how many of my fellow subscribers are IT types who
G think developers should be guided by
Hi Gary,
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 20:23:37 -0500 UTC (10/12/2007, 8:23 PM -0500 UTC my
time), Gary wrote:
G Hi Gleason,
G On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 20:45:51 -0400 UTC (10/12/2007, 7:45 PM -0500 UTC my
G time), Gleason Pace wrote:
G Interesting. One of the things I positively didn't like about
G
Hi Gleason,
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:45:18 -0400 UTC (10/12/2007, 8:45 PM -0500 UTC my
time), Gleason Pace wrote:
G In the case of Mulberry, they have convinced Cyrus to take Mulberry open
G source after helping bankrupt it with their narrow vision of what an
G email client should be (no html,
Hi Gleason,
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:58:59 -0400 UTC (10/12/2007, 8:58 PM -0500 UTC my
time), Gleason Pace wrote:
I forgot to add that since you complain about deleting messages twice
tells me you know nothing about IMAP protocol or standards, which is
something Mulberry follows better than
Hello Boris!
On Friday, September 03, 2004, 9:59 AM, you wrote:
MB I trust that support will be there for me, if I need it
BG Ritlabs support? I emailed them several times and got no respond.
BG I can't even be sure it exists. :D
I am sorry that you have had that bad experience.
When I first
Hallo Boris,
On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 09:59:50 -0500GMT (3-9-2004, 16:59 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:
MB I trust that support will be there for me, if I need it
BG Ritlabs support? I emailed them several times and got no respond. I can't
BG even be sure it exists. :D
I've mailed them once and
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