Re: 10.5
On Wednesday, October 4, 2023, 11:36:10, Alexander Petrari via TBBETA wrote: > 64-bit https://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/nau_thebat_64_10-5.msi I'm still getting a crash on exit: TheBat64.exe caused an Access Violation at location 00410B59 in module TheBat64.exe Reading from location 06E05C50. AddrPC Params 00410B59 045D3CD0 045B 0454FA90 TheBat64.exe!0x10b59 00459A6C 045D3CE0 7FFB8B18 TheBat64.exe!__dbk_fcall_wrapper+0x3a3ac 00412B06 0454FB40 0454FB10 031905C8 TheBat64.exe!0x12b06 00412B88 17887950 179932D8 178878C0 TheBat64.exe!0x12b88 00412D3A TheBat64.exe!0x12d3a 0041352D 179930F0 179930F0 03188440 TheBat64.exe!0x1352d 004135FF 179FB4D0 0003 02359240 TheBat64.exe!0x135ff 02358E66 06E1C970 0454FE00 06DC4F50 TheBat64.exe!TMethodImplementationIntercept+0x1e91fc6 0089A4A6 179E0D60 0001 01F8CA80 TheBat64.exe!TMethodImplementationIntercept+0x3d3606 0089AA5A 06E1C940 168B4C01 0454FE60 TheBat64.exe!TMethodImplementationIntercept+0x3d3bba 02C67283 TheBat64.exe!TMethodImplementationIntercept+0x27a03e3 02C7D9AA TheBat64.exe!TMethodImplementationIntercept+0x27b6b0a 7FFB8B19257D KERNEL32.DLL!BaseThreadInitThunk+0x1d 7FFB8BFEAA78 ntdll.dll!RtlUserThreadStart+0x28 -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > The larger the project or job, the less time there is to do it. -- Old Engineer's Law TheBat! Version 10.5.0 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22621 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.5 Bug - does install on Windows 7, but fails to start because of CEF 117
On Thursday, October 5, 2023, 12:20:20, Георгий, Белрус wrote: > This is wrong position. This is not an ugly Microsoft/Apple or dirty Adobe > (that can kill Macromedia and then flash only because Apple says to them). > Just html-viewer can't be a reason. And if ugly monopolies of shit-Chromium > can kill Win7 support then needs to have some another html-viewer like in v8 > TB! and shut off that chromium-shit for Win7 users. If you're using end-of-life operating systems, you have to accept that at some point you'll have to keep using old programs, too. Writing a HTML viewer is far from trivial, and there's a good reason that The Bat switched from internal viewer to CEF (though I'd still prefer if Edge WebView2 was used instead, since that gets security updates from the OS, so a new TB release wouldn't be needed due to CVE-2023-4863). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > The more campaigning, the better. -- O'Brien's First Law of Politics TheBat! Version 10.5.0 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22621 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4.0.17
On Sunday, October 1, 2023, 22:51:05, Sergey Chubchenko wrote: > I can't delete null lines at quote in up-there, because editor can't do it. > May be a bug. You can usually delete them by repeatedly pressing the Delete key, but I agree it's annoying how hard it is to delete these. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Everything goes wrong all at once. -- Murphy's Restatement TheBat! Version 10.4.0.17 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22621 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4.0.17
On Saturday, September 30, 2023, 01:21:40, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_64_10-4-0-17.msi I get a crash every time I exit The Bat: TheBat64.exe caused an Access Violation at location 00410B59 in module TheBat64.exe Reading from location 06D75C50. AddrPC Params 00410B59 047021E0 046E 0453FA90 TheBat64.exe!0x10b59 00459A6C 047021F0 7FFADF15 TheBat64.exe!__dbk_fcall_wrapper+0x3a3ac 00412B06 0453FB40 0453FB10 0318E5C8 TheBat64.exe!0x12b06 00412B88 17877950 179832D8 178778C0 TheBat64.exe!0x12b88 00412D3A TheBat64.exe!0x12d3a 0041352D 179830F0 179830F0 03186440 TheBat64.exe!0x1352d 004135FF 179EB4D0 0003 02356B90 TheBat64.exe!0x135ff 023567B6 06D8C970 0453FE00 06D34F50 TheBat64.exe!TMethodImplementationIntercept+0x1e8f916 0089A4A6 179D0D30 0001 01F8CA40 TheBat64.exe!TMethodImplementationIntercept+0x3d3606 0089AA5A 06D8C940 168A2101 0453FE60 TheBat64.exe!TMethodImplementationIntercept+0x3d3bba 02C64B93 TheBat64.exe!TMethodImplementationIntercept+0x279dcf3 02C7B2BA TheBat64.exe!TMethodImplementationIntercept+0x27b441a 7FFADF16257D KERNEL32.DLL!BaseThreadInitThunk+0x1d 7FFAE124AA78 ntdll.dll!RtlUserThreadStart+0x28 -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > If you want to get along, go along. -- Rayburn's Rule TheBat! Version 10.4.0.17 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22621 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.4.0.11
On Wednesday, August 16, 2023, 13:47:10, Alexander Petrari via TBBETA wrote: > 64-bit > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_64_10-4-0-11.msi I'm getting random exceptions in this version: --- The Bat! --- Access violation at address 0044E9E3 in module 'TheBat64.exe'. Read of address . --- V redu --- -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > On the TV screen, pure drivel tends to drive off ordinary drivel. -- Kitman's Law TheBat! Version 10.4.0.11 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22621 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.3.3.16 Access Violation
On Wednesday, May 24, 2023, 21:59:21, Marck Pearlstone wrote: > The situation is that the processes are already under close scrutiny (using > System Explorer and procexp) and the sole TB process is hanging on startup > with no other TB processes in the system. ProcExp has shown none of the TB > process threads actually hung (as far as I can tell - I may be looking at the > wrong thing). When The Bat hangs, does it use any CPU? In the Threads list, do any thready use CPU? -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Do not nurse a kid who wears braces. -- Nursing Mother Principle TheBat! Version 10.3.3.16 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22621 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.3.3.16 Access Violation
On Wednesday, May 24, 2023, 20:22:36, Marck Pearlstone wrote: > Sadly, prayers unanswered and stability not maintained. I just found TB > completely unresponsive in the tooltray, terminated, re-ran and I'm back to > locked out. Weird. If you download Process Explorer <https://live.sysinternals.com/procexp.exe>, run it and The Bat, double-click thebat.exe in Process Explorer and check the Threads tab – it should show you where it hung. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > You never find anything until you replace it. -- Harper's Law TheBat! Version 10.3.3.16 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22621 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.3.3.16 Access Violation
On Tuesday, May 23, 2023, 13:57:11, Marck Pearlstone wrote: > I have exactly the same issue with LibreOffice here. Setting the single process option (and restarting TB) should work around that. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > In specifications, Murphy's Law supersedes Ohm's. -- Klipstein's Law of Specifications TheBat! Version 10.3.3.16 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22621 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.3.3.16 Access Violation
On Tuesday, May 23, 2023, 12:38:49, Marck Pearlstone wrote: > Then I ran 10.3.3.16 and here I am again. I've taken the opportunity to > toggle the option and will now pray for stability. I hope it helps. There is something weird with TB's CEF – unless I have that option enabled, certain programs (one of them is LibreOffice, another is a dictionary program that was last updated in 2002) freeze when I first run them, and I have to kill and restart the program before it'll finish loading. I'm not even sure how that happens, the programs do not interact in any way. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > You cannot have a baby in one month by getting nine women pregnant. -- Frisch's Law TheBat! Version 10.3.3.16 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22621 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.3.3.16 Access Violation
On Monday, May 22, 2023, 13:52:46, Marck Pearlstone wrote: > (sent again because of white font used in reply - Thunderbird - sheesh). I never even noticed with your previous message :) I've been thinking about this for the last several days – can you maybe run an older version of The Bat, and change the setting there, then update? -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Don't get any on you. -- Mahr's Law of Restrained Involvement TheBat! Version 10.3.3.16 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22621 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.3.3.16 Access Violation
On Friday, May 19, 2023, 10:07:12, Marck Pearlstone wrote: > I am completely locked out of TB. Every update that has come since 10.3.3.3 > runs for about 3 days but always grinds to a halt, has to be terminated with > Taskman and it won't work again. It just hangs trying to draw the main window. Does toggling Preferences → General → Run CEF browser in single process make any difference? -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > The longer the title, the less important the job. -- McGovern's Law TheBat! Version 10.3.3.16 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22621 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Very calm
On Monday, February 27, 2023, 12:40:47, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > Plus, we've started conversion the current code into multi-platform project, > this also takes quite an effort. Please don't turn The Bat into another Electron/web UI project. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Those who have the shortest distance to travel invariably arrive latest. -- Law of Late-Comers TheBat! Version 10.3.3.3 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22621 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Failures to start The Bat
On Monday, January 16, 2023, 16:21:39, Spencer Morgan wrote: > Had a problem trying to start The Bat today with access violations. Same problem here, for some reason it was trying to create ADDRBOOK.INI inside installation directory (in Program Files). Upgrading to new version resolved the problem. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Hypocrisy is the Vaseline of social intercourse. -- Newman's Law TheBat! Version 10.3.3.3 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22621 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection center
On Thursday, January 5, 2023, 20:14:50, Ira wrote: > I was guessing at an email address for a company and i failed. I brought up > the connection center so I could see what the errors were but for some reason > the connection center window is cleared at the end of the transaction instead > of before starting the next one so it's impossible to see what went wrong. > Could that be changed so that the results of the last attempt can be reviewed? You can see the log by clicking the status bar in the main window. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Any order that can be misunderstood has been misunderstood. -- Army Axiom TheBat! Version 10.3.3 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22621 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! cannot access email on Microsoft Outlook365.com
On Wednesday, October 26, 2022, 02:10:20, Thomas Fernandez ML wrote: > Noted. How to activate OAuth 2.0 in TheBat!? I don't see that under Account / > Properties / Transport / Receive / Authentication. If you previously wasn't connected to 365 with OAuth, you have to delete and recreate the account. This is a known workaround for programs that support OAuth, but not upgrade from plain to OAuth. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Everyone should believe in something -- I believe I'll have another drink. -- Steele's Plagiarism of Somebody's Philosophy TheBat! Version 10.2.1.2 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22621 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.2.1.2
On Friday, October 14, 2022, 17:52:07, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > [+] Built-in viewer for most of Office documents (DOC, DOCX, XLT, XLTX, PPT, > PPTX) as well as MD, EPUB, FB2 > [+] "Attachment autopreview" option to allow automatic switch to the > attachment's tab of the preview pane (if any) How about fixing the long-standing new HTML viewer bugs first instead? - spacebar reading not working most of the time (moves to a different message), https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2195 - several UI problems in high contrast (invisible scrollbars, forced colors) - URL hover tooltips at the bottom of the window being cut off - some messages not appearing at all -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Nature abhors a vacuous experimenter. -- Campbell's Law TheBat! Version 10.2.1.2 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22621 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.1.0.5
On Friday, September 30, 2022, 21:26:34, Martin wrote: > Perhaps too much links in it? Doubt it, other Reddit notifications display without problems. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you. -- Von Helsing's Theorem TheBat! Version 10.1.0.5 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22621 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.1.0.5
On Monday, September 26, 2022, 19:45:25, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_64_10-1-0-5.msi Bug: the attached message (HTML portion) shows for about a second, then goes blank. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > An ounce of application is worth a ton of abstraction. -- Booker's Law TheBat! Version 10.1.0.5 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22621 --- Begin Message --- Title: Private Message I just wanted to say thank you for the recommendation of the Veeam B Community Edition! I didn't know they had something like that for a licensing option. I've tested the application this w... u/ender-_ You have a new message from u/JuanGil_Express · u/JuanGil_Express I just wanted to say thank you for the recommendation of the Veeam B Community Edition! I didn't know they had something like that for a licensing option. I've tested the application this w... View Message This email was intended for u/ender-_. Unsubscribe from private message messages, or visit your settings to manage what emails Reddit sends you. 548 Market St., #16093, San Francisco, CA 94104–5401 --- End Message --- 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.1.0.4
On Thursday, September 22, 2022, 17:07:21, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/v10/nau_thebat_64_10-1-0-4.msi Status bar in main window in this version is tiny (looks like it's rendered at 100% DPI): Also, proportional image resizing doesn't seem to work. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > In unanimity there is cowardice and uncritical thinking. -- Levy's Fifth Law of the Disillusionment of the True Liberal TheBat! Version 10.1.0.4 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22621 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: GPGME
On Thursday, September 15, 2022, 14:05:11, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > That's what we tried to do while TBBETA was silent, it is not that simple, at > least - with our knowledge of the tools. If you can help us with that, it'd > be great - looks like we miss some "evident" prerequisites... I've got some experience compiling open-source projects on Windows, so go ahead and tell where you got stuck. Note that I usually use the msys2 environment, and almost never use Visual Studio, so I won't be much help if you use that. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > A bird in the hand is safer than one overhead. -- Newton's Little-known Seventh Law TheBat! Version 10.1.0.2 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: GPGME
On Monday, September 5, 2022, 17:45:13, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > We've been playing with GPGME for some time, trying to adopt it to our > requirements and suddenly discovered that there is no 64bit Windows version > of GPGME DLL. It shouldn't be too hard to compile it yourself — I include gpgme in my wget binaries, though I compile it statically. msys2 likely also has prepackaged binaries, too. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Ideal goals grow faster than the means of attaining new goals allow. -- Wober's SNIDE Rule (Satisfied Needs Incite Demand Excesses) TheBat! Version 10.1.0.2 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.1.0.2 - The Bat! (32bit) blocks start of Libreoffice 7.3.5.2 x64 / Win 11 21H2
On Monday, September 5, 2022, 16:55:36, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > The problem is that we have no idea what Libre Office is trying to do and > what exactly prevents it from starting. Presumably, they try to exclusively > lock some resource which is also used by CEF, but we have zero knowledge of > resources used by Libre Office. On the other hand, LO is the only software > that is suffering, we did not receive reports about similar problems in other > software. Thus, we'll have to wait for LO team findings... I've got another program with the same symptoms as LibreOffice: Asp32, a very old (last release in 2002) dictionary program from Slovenia. With either LibreOffice or Asp32, when I run them, they freeze at splash screen. If I exit The Bat, they finish loading; or I can click the splash screen a few times to get the "This program is not responding" dialog from Windows, where I can kill the program, then if I run the program again, it'll finish loading. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > People are always available for work in the past tense. -- Zymurgy's Law of Volunteer Labour TheBat! Version 10.1.0.2 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.1.0.2 Position in task bar
On Friday, August 26, 2022, 04:46:12, Thomas Fernandez ML wrote: > TB! acts differently: When opening from the square taskbar icon, the wider > icon (which indiucated the program is open) will be added to the right. So > the small square icon stays were it is, and I have an additional wide icon to > the right. Unpin your original icon, then pin running The Bat, and this should be solved. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > The public is not made up of people who get their names in the newspapers. -- Wilson's Law of Demographics TheBat! Version 10.1.0.2 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to install/uninstall V10 flawlessly
On Wednesday, August 24, 2022, 20:06:37, MAU wrote: > I recently got my v10 registration key and have downloaded the > software, but I am a bit hesitant to install it. What's the big > advantage of upgrading to v10? The HTML editor in v10 is not quite ready for prime time yet, but current beta again also has the RTF editor, which is nearly the same as the rich text editor in v9. Other than that there aren't that many major changes, except for there now being two types of install – automatically updating, or non-automatically updating, the latter being the same as in v9 and older. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Things get worse under pressure. -- Murphy's Law of Thermodynamics TheBat! Version 10.1.0.2 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.1.0.2
On Tuesday, August 23, 2022, 14:53:28, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > It actually switches text direction to right-to-left, not alignment. Hmm. Not > sure it's needed for left-to-right languages... :-) This definitely shouldn't happen – I'm using AltGr+Shift+letter to access extra characters on my keyboard. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > As the economy gets better, everything else gets worse. -- Buchwald's Law TheBat! Version 10.1.0.2 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.1.0.2
On Monday, August 8, 2022, 20:11:21, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > [-] Many small fixes in the HTML editor (now PureHTML) Pressing AltGr+Shift causes the line I'm currently editing to align to the right in this version. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > It is easier to get forgiveness than permission. -- Pope's Law of Retroactivity TheBat! Version 10.1.0.2 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.1.0.2
On Tuesday, August 16, 2022, 16:53:56, Sergey Chubchenko wrote: > U, but Ctrl + Shift + V don't paste plain text in RTF mode. Also I can't > delete null lines in green quotes (at up of this message) by Del or Backspace > in RTF mode. Confirmed, empty quote lines can't be deleted in RTF mode. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Any product cut to length will be too short. -- Klipstein's Observation TheBat! Version 10.1.0.2 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.1.0.2
On Monday, August 8, 2022, 20:11:21, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > [-] Many small fixes in the HTML editor (now PureHTML) The HTML editor now randomly shows white background instead of the Windows background colour. No idea how it's triggered, seems completely random (it happens rarely, and if I close and re-open the editor on the same message, the colours are fine the next time). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > When you dial a wrong number, you never get a busy siginal. -- Kovac's Conundrum TheBat! Version 10.1.0.2 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 10.1.0.2
On Saturday, August 13, 2022, 06:33:15, Thomas Fernandez ML wrote: > Happy to try this! However, what is the difference between the first set of > files and the "nau" files? First set is the auto-updating version, nau is the non-auto-updating version (same type of install as pre-v10 TB). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > A disagreeable law is its own reward. -- Labor Law TheBat! Version 10.1.0.2 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Test, please ignore
On Monday, August 8, 2022, 22:01:15, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: > For some reason, I cannot see messages I've sent today from my primary > address ( s...@ritlabs.com ) I received two 10.1.0.2 announcements through the list. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > A computer makes as many mistakes in two seconds as 20 men working 20 years. -- Horowitz's Rule TheBat! Version 10.1.0.2 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat Beta Series
On Tuesday, July 26, 2022, 13:43:07, Chris Wilson wrote: > May I ask if the next beta is likely to fix the Remote Desktop issue please? What remote desktop issue? (I'm asking because I often remote to my home computer, and never noticed any problems with TB) -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Authority tends to assign jobs to those least able to do them. -- Cornuelle's Law TheBat! Version 10.1 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat Beta Series
On Tuesday, July 26, 2022, 12:54:56, Gwen wrote: > Your HTML message is white text on white background ;-) Finally something that high contrast mode actually enhances! -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Nothing is ever done for the right reason. -- O'Brien's Rule TheBat! Version 10.1 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Editor
On Monday, June 27, 2022, 19:09:35, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > What are the biggest PITAs you experience with the editor, anyway? I forgot to mention the biggest PITA since changing to CEF (not editor-related though): spacebar often jumps to next message instead of scrolling down current message when reading. The only workaround seems to be to scroll the message manually first. Also, it would be nice if TB offered a way to override high contrast mode for the viewer. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Disorder expands proportionately to the tolerance for it. -- Law of Organization TheBat! Version 10.0.10 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Editor
On Monday, June 27, 2022, 19:09:35, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > What are the biggest PITAs you experience with the editor, anyway? For me it's the unreliable Enter key – especially inside quoted text you never know where the paragraph will be inserted (if it's inserted at all), and cursor often ends up in completely unrelated place. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > All people are cremated equal. -- Beauregard's Second Law TheBat! Version 10.0.10 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 10.0.10 randomly crashing
at!]; Path: W:\Program Files\The Bat!\tbmapi32.dll (not valid) MAPI #7: The Bat! Simple MAPI 64-bit [The Bat! Simple MAPI 64-bit]; Path: W:\Program Files\The Bat!\tbmapi64.dll (valid) Default Profile: Address: 01F2A901 ClassName: EAccessViolation Message: Access violation at address 01F2A901 in module 'TheBat64.exe'. Read of address IsOSException: 1 Modules: 0040 20220530132313 W:\Program Files\The Bat!\TheBat64.exe Stack: 01F2A901 [0040] 004085A2 [0040] 02F7C3B9 [0040] 01B2A8FC [0040] 02F7C3B9 [0040] 00413964 [0040] 00416CF9 [0040] 00544C00 [0040] 02F7C3B9 [0040] 004098AE [0040] 00418EDC [0040] 00413827 [0040] 00414022 [0040] 00411358 [0040] 00C4FB76 [0040] 00C50186 [0040] 00C500A8 [0040] 00C4FE17 [0040] 01F2A6CE [0040] 00544C00 [0040] 004136FA [0040] -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > All general statements are false. -- The Ultimate Law TheBat! Version 10.0.10 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
You are up to date!
The Bat 10.0.5 shows a "You are up to date!" message box on every start. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><><><><><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > TheBat! Version 10.0.5 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 is now released
On Sunday, May 1, 2022, 13:42:11, Ethan J. Mings wrote: > The program that includes automatic update simply does not install correctly. I'm using the non-auto-update version. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > To err is human -- to blame it on someone else is even more human. -- Jacob' Law TheBat! Version 10.0 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 is now released
On Saturday, April 30, 2022, 17:28:21, Jernej Simončič wrote: > Yup, same problem here. Starting from pinned icon on taskbar works without > problems. Specifically, the problem happens because The Bat seems to try loading CEF libraries from current working directory instead of the directory where thebat64.exe resides. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism. -- Harrison's Postulate TheBat! Version 10.0 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 is now released
On Saturday, April 30, 2022, 16:11:09, Sergey Chubchenko wrote: > Another bug. If load at startup settings is used then TheBAT crashes on > Windows start: Yup, same problem here. Starting from pinned icon on taskbar works without problems. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Where are the calculations that go with the calculated risk? -- Katz's First Maxim TheBat! Version 10.0 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 is now released
On Thursday, April 28, 2022, 13:59:41, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > The Bat! v10 is now released and is available for download from > https://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php I noticed your "Windows Versions" tab doesn't list Windows 11 (and Server 2022) :) > - HTML editor improvements HTML editor definitely isn't ready for prime-time – it's got a lot of quirks that need working around (eg. replying to e-mails from a certain client always ends up with my signature to the left of their signature; sadly I can't share an example due to confidentiality). Also please test the HTML Viewer and Address Book in High Contrast mode – right now they always render with forced colours, which have some unfortunate side-effects. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > There is no traffic until you start to back out of your driveway. -- First Law of Driving TheBat! Version 10.0 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 beta 8
On Monday, April 18, 2022, 10:47:49, Sergey Chubchenko wrote: > U But no images on HTML messages (same with previous 10.x Beta versions). > Reset IE Security settings or changing it doesn't solve the problem. Clear > image cache or changing settings also not help. Windows 11 with updates. What's your "Download external media" setting (in Preferences → Viewer/Editor → HTML Viewer)? -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > To know thyself is the ultimate form of aggression. -- Levy's Seventh Law of the Disillusionment of the True Liberal TheBat! Version 10 beta 8 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 beta 6
On Wednesday, March 30, 2022, 12:36:22, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > Version v10 beta 6 is available I had a very annoying problem today: my internet connection was out, and The Bat would not let me open without logging in (which obviously failed, since there was no way to contact the servers). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Once a job is fouled up, anything done to improve it only makes it worse. -- Finagle's Fourth Law TheBat! Version 10 beta 6 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 beta 6
On Thursday, March 31, 2022, 10:07:28, Alexander Petrari via TBBETA wrote: > We believe we will update Chromium and see whether the issue is resolved. > Nevertheless, please send us the updated ex_log.txt and TheBat_Exceptions.log > files from your mail folder containing "fresh" error messages. Neither file contains anything related to the crash: v10 beta 5 64-bit / 29. 03. 2022 20:40:35.844 Language:File does not exist (W:\Program Files\The Bat!\TheBat.LNG) v10 beta 5 64-bit / 30. 03. 2022 07:27:26.655 Language:File does not exist (W:\Program Files\The Bat!\TheBat.LNG) v10 beta 6 64-bit / 30. 03. 2022 18:37:38.260 Language:File does not exist (W:\Program Files\The Bat!\TheBat.LNG) v10 beta 6 64-bit / 30. 03. 2022 18:37:55.859 Language:File does not exist (W:\Program Files\The Bat!\TheBat.LNG) v10 beta 6 64-bit / 30. 03. 2022 18:38:13.004 Language:File does not exist (W:\Program Files\The Bat!\TheBat.LNG) v10 beta 6 64-bit / 30. 03. 2022 18:38:22.954 Language:File does not exist (W:\Program Files\The Bat!\TheBat.LNG) v10 beta 6 64-bit / 31. 03. 2022 08:36:53.130 Language:File does not exist (W:\Program Files\The Bat!\TheBat.LNG) v10 beta 6 64-bit / 31. 03. 2022 14:59:02.855 Language:File does not exist (W:\Program Files\The Bat!\TheBat.LNG) Date: 29 Mar 2022 16:38:40 OS: Windows 11 X64 (AMD or Intel) build 22000 PhysMemFreeTotal: 51693/65449 MB VirtMemFreeTotal: 134142519/134217727 MB MAPI #0: Evolution [Evolution]; Path: W:\Program Files (x86)\Evolution\bin\libeutil-0.dll (not valid) MAPI #1: ExchangeMAPI [ExchangeMAPI]; Path: W:\Program Files (x86)\ExchangeMapi\exmapi32.dll (not valid) MAPI #2: Windows Live Hotmail [Hotmail]; Path: W:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\hmmapi.dll (valid) MAPI #3: Microsoft Outlook [Microsoft Outlook]; Path: W:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\root\VFS\ProgramFilesCommonX64\system\msmapi\1060\msmapi32.dll (valid) MAPI #4: Opera [Opera]; Path: W:\Program Files\Opera x64\OperaMAPI.dll (valid) MAPI #5: OperaNext [OperaNext]; Path: W:\Program Files\Opera x64\OperaMAPI.dll (valid) MAPI #6: The Bat! [The Bat!]; Path: W:\Program Files\The Bat!\tbmapi32.dll (not valid) MAPI #7: The Bat! Simple MAPI 64-bit [The Bat! Simple MAPI 64-bit]; Path: W:\Program Files\The Bat!\tbmapi64.dll (valid) Default Profile: Address: 01F1E689 ClassName: EAccessViolation Message: Access violation at address 01F1E689 in module 'TheBat.exe'. Read of address IsOSException: 1 Modules: 0040 20220317141220 W:\Program Files\The Bat!\TheBat.exe Stack: 01F1E689 [0040] 00544C10 [0040] 00544C10 [0040] 004136FA [0040] 00544C10 [0040] 004098DE [0040] 00890077 [0040] 01F1E66C [0040] 00544C10 [0040] 004136FA [0040] -------- -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > The deficiency will never show itself during the dry runs. -- Boyle's Third Law TheBat! Version 10 beta 6 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 beta 6
On Wednesday, March 30, 2022, 16:48:00, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > v10 beta 6 is now available from https://beta.thebat.net/version/9 The message I attached in still causes The Bat to crash. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > The wider any culture is spread, the thinner it gets. -- Law of Raspberry Jam TheBat! Version 10 beta 6 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 beta 5
On Thursday, March 17, 2022, 19:56:33, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > The Bat! v10 beta 5 is now available from https://beta.thebat.net/version/8 I just noticed another problem: if I drag the scrollbar in plain-text messages (Plain-Text Viewer) down, when I reach the bottom, only half of the last row is visible. Clicking the down arrow on scrollbar brings the last row in view, and dragging the scrollbar afterwards works fine as long as I don't drag it all the way to the top (I also noticed that the scrollbar's thumb changes size slightly). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Whatever goes up, stays up. -- Law of Insurance Rates And Taxes TheBat! Version 10 beta 5 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 beta 5
On Thursday, March 17, 2022, 19:56:33, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > The Bat! v10 beta 5 is now available from https://beta.thebat.net/version/8 The attached message causes The Bat to crash for me when opening it with TheBat.exe caused an Access Violation at location 7FFE6D390BE2 in module libcef.dll Reading from location 0008. AddrPC Params 7FFE6D390BE2 3038ECF0 7FFE68D10237 3038EF2F libcef.dll!GetHandleVerifier 7FFE6D38DA5D 7FFE6D1D9AFA libcef.dll!GetHandleVerifier 7FFE6C83715A 7FFE6C7F4BD9 05577AAA3F80 libcef.dll!GetHandleVerifier 7FFE6C727837 3038F080 7FFE6C7C1B3F 05577AAA3F80 libcef.dll!GetHandleVerifier 7FFE6C7C8495 05577AAA3F80 7FFE6C7C1A1C 01E0 libcef.dll!GetHandleVerifier 7FFE6E13A848 52FCCA923778 7FFE6C71CBB5 52FCCA923778 libcef.dll!GetHandleVerifier 7FFE6C7C28FB 77D8006C82E0 0001 3038EFF0 libcef.dll!GetHandleVerifier 7FFE6E13A691 3038F060 77D800863040 0001 libcef.dll!GetHandleVerifier 7FFE6D328DC6 3038F4F0 3038F040 libcef.dll!GetHandleVerifier 7FFE6D3267A6 3038F0D8 7FFE6D15A58E 3038F028 libcef.dll!GetHandleVerifier 7FFE6C70AAC9 77D8008524B8 7FFE6E1D4957 77D800FD6D20 libcef.dll!GetHandleVerifier 7FFE6C890578 77D800811460 3038F1E0 libcef.dll!GetHandleVerifier 7FFE6E1D3A08 AA00 805E77326248 37F6FB5CF198 libcef.dll!GetHandleVerifier 7FFE6E1D3E29 05577AAA3EA0 AA00 libcef.dll!GetHandleVerifier 7FFE6E1C6CBF 77D8018183E8 3038F418 libcef.dll!GetHandleVerifier 7FFE6E1C5603 3038F438 7FFE6B2CEB32 libcef.dll!GetHandleVerifier 7FFE6D3A09EB 7FFE6B279C3D libcef.dll!GetHandleVerifier 7FFE6D39FAA0 77D800A98000 7FFE6B236922 805E77326648 libcef.dll!GetHandleVerifier 7FFE6D39F88B 7FFE70A4D704 7FFE6B220EE8 77D8015A7CB8 libcef.dll!GetHandleVerifier 7FFE6AC530D2 7FFE6BF776D5 libcef.dll!CrashForExceptionInNonABICompliantCodeRange 7FFE6B275F5B libcef.dll!cef_string_utf16_to_upper 7FFE6BD3F0F7 7FFE6CD9C5E9 libcef.dll!cef_time_delta 7FFE6B275F5B 3038FB08 7FFE6B28D90E 77D80001 libcef.dll!cef_string_utf16_to_upper 7FFE6BD40CEC 0B030013D1AB 0587 77D8002A8C40 libcef.dll!cef_time_delta 7FFE6BD409CC 77D8 libcef.dll!cef_time_delta 7FFE6B2A68AA 3038FDE8 7FFE6C964CA1 libcef.dll!cef_string_utf16_to_upper 7FFE6B2A611D 77D8006A2CA0 805E77326FF8 libcef.dll!cef_string_utf16_to_upper 7FFE6BD41359 3038FE50 77D8005FBC00 libcef.dll!cef_time_delta 7FFE6B25A203 3038FE50 libcef.dll!cef_string_utf16_to_upper 7FFE6B28B394 libcef.dll!cef_string_utf16_to_upper 7FFE6B28B532 libcef.dll!cef_string_utf16_to_upper 7FFE6B2AF1D0 libcef.dll!cef_string_utf16_to_upper 7FFEE94054E0 KERNEL32.DLL!BaseThreadInitThunk 7FFEEA2A485B ntdll.dll!RtlUserThreadStart -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > For every credibility gap there is a gullibility fill. -- Clopton's Law TheBat! Version 10 beta 5 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22000 --- Begin Message --- ahmad qaruoti commented on a discussion: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/-/issues/7919#note_1416315 Thank you all ... On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 11:47 PM Jehan (@Jehan) wrote: > Jehan <https://gitlab.gnome.org/Jehan> commented > <https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/-/issues/7919#note_1416294>: > > Thanks for the follow up @petek2014 <https://gitlab.gnome.org/petek2014> > and @ahmad63 <https://gitlab.gnome.org/ahmad63>. @jernejs > <https://gitlab.gnome.org/jernejs> signed the installer and I uploaded it > to our download server. It will be made available on gimp.org > tomorrow-ish (waiting for mirrors to sync). > > — > Reply to this email directly or view it on GitLab > <https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/-/issues/7919#note_1416294>. > You're receiving this email because you have been mention
Re: v10 beta 4
On Monday, March 7, 2022, 15:34:24, Jernej Simončič wrote: > I noticed a weird problem: when I try typing the đ character (which in my > custom keyboard layout is on AltGr+-), The Bat inserts —đ, but only in HTML > mode (in plain-text mode only đ is inserted). Another similar problem: to get the ^ character, I press AltGr+R on my keyboard, and while ^ does get inserted, the paragraph also aligns to the right (I'm assuming due to a clash with Alt+R shortcut). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Under any system, a few sharpies will beat the rest of us. -- Goodfader's Law TheBat! Version 10 beta 4 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 beta 4
On Thursday, March 3, 2022, 00:11:59, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > The Bat! v10 beta 4 is now available I noticed a weird problem: when I try typing the đ character (which in my custom keyboard layout is on AltGr+-), The Bat inserts —đ, but only in HTML mode (in plain-text mode only đ is inserted). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Whichever carousel you stand near, your baggage will arrive on another one. -- Basic Baggage Principle TheBat! Version 10 beta 4 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v10 beta 4
On Thursday, March 3, 2022, 00:11:59, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > The Bat! v10 beta 4 is now available I tried registering for the betas today, but I never received a confirmation mail (I used the same e-mail I use for these mailing lists – ). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Smile, tomorrow will be worse. -- The Murphy Philosophy TheBat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.5.3
On Tuesday, December 14, 2021, 13:49:03, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.5.3-x64.7z Looks like the problem with missing linebreaks in HTML messages has been fixed. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Social innovations tend to the level of minimum tolerable well being. -- Albrecht's Law TheBat! Version 9.4.5.3 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.5.2
Example for Stefan (I just selected some text and pressed F4 - notice that there's no linebreak after "-- ", and inside the cookie [the -- First Rule… text should be on it's own line): On Tuesday, December 7, 2021, 10:44:01, Gunivortus Goos wrote: > It looks, like that is also the problem in my previous message. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Nice guys finish fast. -- First Rule of Public Speaking TheBat! Version 9.4.5.2 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.5.2
On Monday, December 6, 2021, 19:02:51, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.5.2-x64-full.7z When replying to HTML messages with a plain-text template, the linebreaks are missing. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > The most difficult light bulb to replace burns out first and most frequently. -- Occam's Electric Razor TheBat! Version 9.4.5.2 (64-bit), Windows 11 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP account problems on one computer
On Tuesday, November 23, 2021, 16:15:41, Stuart Cuddy wrote: > Are they both wired or using wi-fi? Both are wired. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > The simple explanation always follows the complex solution. -- Rule of Scientific Endeavor TheBat! Version 9.4.5 Halloween Edition (64-bit), Windows 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP account problems on one computer
I recently switched my main e-mail account from POP3 to IMAP. I'm running The Bat on two computers, with identical settings, and while it works fine on one computer, it's nearly unusable on the second computer: - messages don't download automatically despite "Message download preferences" being set to "Get entire message" for both read and unread messages, and when clicking a message, it sometimes takes several minutes before it downloads; same for sending messages, it takes minutes before the message is processed (Outbox, Sent and Trash are set to use IMAP folders) - the green arrows on folders never disappear (TB is set to update counters every 5 minutes), and counts in folders are almost never updated - thebat64.exe constantly uses 26% CPU (the second computer has a quad-core i5-2400 CPU) - I even tried deleting TB's profile folder and re-creating the account, but nothing changed (account folder on disk hovers around 156 MB, while it's 23 GB on my primary computer) At the same time, TB on my primary computer works entirely without any problems - periodically refreshes folders (I have a lot of filters set-up server-side), downloads messages without any delay and doesn't have problems sending. I've got The Bat 9.4.5 on both computers, first one is running Windows 11, while the second one is Windows 10 21H1. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><><><><><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Because 10 billion years' time is so fragile, so ephemeral... it arouses such a bittersweet, almost heartbreaking fondness. 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION displays a 10 on Windows 11
On Sunday, November 21, 2021, 17:16:40, mse wrote: > Is is a TB! or a Windows-issue? It's a Windows issue – Windows 11 reports its version as 10.0.22000 everywhere. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > When more and more people are thrown out of work, unemployment results. -- Coolidge's Immutable Observation TheBat! Version 9.4.5 Halloween Edition (64-bit), Windows 10.0.22000 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.4 MSI - files gone?
On Monday, September 13, 2021, 12:15:20, Viktor Kabelac wrote: > have the install files been withdrawn for some serious reason? I am asking > because I tried to get back up to the testing track and download 9.4.4 only > to find the links from the original mail here be dead. You can get them from the regular download page: <https://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php> -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > In unanimity there is cowardice and uncritical thinking. -- Levy's Fifth Law of the Disillusionment of the True Liberal TheBat! Version 9.4.4 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: V 9.4.4 (64 bit) change
On Sunday, September 12, 2021, 10:52:40, Ian A. White wrote: > How come this has changed, or is there something that has changed the default > behaviour? This was a weird bug with TB's installers practically forever, but it should now be finally fixed – unpin your existing shortcut, the pin TB again. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > A coup that is known in advance is a coup that does not take place. -- Camp's Law TheBat! Version 9.4.4 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.4 MSI
On Saturday, August 21, 2021, 23:16:41, Joerg Schiermeier wrote: > Please don't lower the security in your system: > guess you click a file by accident - what happens than? > Also if you do this as Administrator ... oouups! That doesn't lower the security of the system at all, it just removes an annoying pop-up. > Please see my posting above - the solution with PowerShell is more save. On the contrary, removing the zone identifier makes Windows skip the SmartScreen check, which does lower security. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > To have a sense of humor is to be a tragic figure. -- Levy's Sixth Law of the Disillusionment of the True Liberal TheBat! Version 9.4.4 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.4 MSI
On Saturday, August 21, 2021, 13:45:31, MAU wrote: > As with recent MSIs, I am warned about being an application NOT from > MS Store. Start → ⚙️ Settings → Applications → Choose where you want to get applications from → select Anywhere -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Pills to be taken in twos always come out of the bottle in threes. -- Davis's Basic Law of Medicine TheBat! Version 9.4.4 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v9.4.3
On Thursday, August 5, 2021, 18:39:35, Gunivortus Goos wrote: > Trying to unpack it at another PC gave the same error. Have you tried downloading it again? Sounds like you've got a corrupted download. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Everything put together sooner or later falls apart. -- Simon's Law TheBat! Version 9.4.3.1 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.12
On Thursday, August 5, 2021, 07:57:24, Stuart Pye via TBBETA wrote: >>8/5/2021, 01:39:25: FETCH - Certificate S/N: 6A72CB, algorithm: RSA (512 >>bits), issued from 8/3/2021 5:34:18 AM to 7/29/2041 5:34:18 AM, for 1 >>host(s): mx.spamdropper.com. > I've always run Microsoft TLS crypto on TB, no issues. > My mail server now uses Lets Encrypt for SSL certs for the various domain > mail it handles. > TB connection logging showed that the LE cert changed at a certain time, from > a cert good for > six months, or 90 days, I forget which, to a cert good for 20 years. When > that happened, TB stopped TLS-ing > with the M'soft default. Switching to TB option, all is good now. > Just thought the developers might want to know this Lets Encrypt behavior in > regards to TB. The line I quoted above, and the fact that the certificate says it's valid for 20 years means that something's intercepting your connection, and The Bat was right to refuse to connect (512-bit RSA hasn't been secure in the last 15 years, and Let's Encrypt always issues certificates valid for 90 days). You should verify what's happening (I'm guessing some anti-spam program). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Never buy a car that has a wick. -- Ford Pinto Rule TheBat! Version 9.4.2.12 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML media
On Friday, July 30, 2021, 09:23:40, Thomas Fernandez wrote: > How about a button on the received message to create a rule, as we used to > have? Agreed – the Image Download Manager should not be buried in the menu. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Performance is directly affected by the perversity of inanimate objects. -- Boyle's Ninth Law TheBat! Version 9.4.2.10 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.9
On Wednesday, July 28, 2021, 20:19:43, MAU wrote: > Anyone else observed this? Yup, it picked up the rules I set up before the switch to CEF. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > If a string has one end, then it has another end. -- Miksch's Law TheBat! Version 9.4.2.9 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.9
On Wednesday, July 28, 2021, 14:56:43, Jernej Simončič wrote: > I noticed a bug — when pasting an e-mail address like > to HTML editor, The Bat makes the address into > URL, but doesn't include the mailto: prefix, making the URL useless. And a possibly related problem: typing an address like https://www.ritlabs.com/ makes it appear as URL in the editor, but appears to just add empty tags around it, so it doesn't end up working. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > All warranty and guarantee clauses are voided by payment of the invoice. -- Klipstein's Lament TheBat! Version 9.4.2.9 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.9
On Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 20:57:58, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.9-x64.7z I noticed a bug — when pasting an e-mail address like to HTML editor, The Bat makes the address into URL, but doesn't include the mailto: prefix, making the URL useless. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Experience varies directly with equipment ruined. -- Morner's Rule of Thumb TheBat! Version 9.4.2.9 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.9
On Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 20:57:58, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > [+] Image download manager is now used for downloading images from external > resources Finally :) Here's a wish to improve the Image download manager: - have a tab that lists all image URLs in currently selected message, and allow selecting URLs to download immediately, and also allow using the URL as a template to create a rule - when creating a rule, highlight image URLs in currently selected message -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > When opportunity knocks, you've got headphones on. -- Law of Teenage Opportunity TheBat! Version 9.4.2.9 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7
On Thursday, July 22, 2021, 12:19:17, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > We'll fix it in the next version. Funny enough, it depends on the font size, > e.g. size 9 use normal spaces, size 10 - nbsp, I've noticed the difference on > my office and home systems :-) Yeah, I have 10pt set as my default size. There's another bug – sometimes if I select a few words in the middle of the text and start typing (to replace them), TB will remove all text from the start of selection to the end of message (including any quoted text and signature). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > A pat on the back is only a few centimeters from a kick in the pants. -- Wilcox's Law TheBat! Version 9.4.2.7 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7 HTML editor usees non-breaking spaces
On Thursday, July 22, 2021, 05:13:48, Thomas Fernandez wrote: > Kindly explain for laymen what a "non-breaking space" is. I have an idea, in > which case I can confirm your bug, but I am not sure I undeerstand it > correctly. Wikipedia has a nice explanation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-breaking_space (basically, instead of using U+0020 space character, TB uses U+00A0, which prevents automatic wrapping). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Everything breaks down. -- Orion's Law TheBat! Version 9.4.2.7 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.6
On Monday, July 19, 2021, 19:29:09, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > [-] Forwarding HTML messages with non-ASCII characters could be garbled Not fixed in 9.4.2.7 (I get 's when replying in certain accounts. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > You can't guard against the arbitrary. -- Borkowski's Law TheBat! Version 9.4.2.7 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.7
On Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 10:30:30, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.7-x64.7z HTML editor still uses non-breaking spaces instead of regular spaces: https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=2150 -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > A bird in the hand is safer than one overhead. -- Avian Law TheBat! Version 9.4.2.7 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.6 - HTML bugs
On Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 10:21:33, Thomas Fernandez wrote: > My editor window is full screen, and I have these hard LFs. Not always, mind > you. Looks like the actual problem is that TB is using non-breaking spaces instead of regular spaces, which then results in weird (non)wrapping (look at the source of the message, there's a ton of 's). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Everything happens at the same time with nothing in between. -- Robertson's Law TheBat! Version 9.4.2.6 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.6
On Monday, July 19, 2021, 19:29:09, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.4.2.6-x64.7z HTML editor is kinda broken at least since 9.4.2.5 – if I type a long enough line, TB seems to insert a hard break somewhere near 2/3rds of the first line, but the second line does not wrap at all (or wraps in a completely different place). Additionally, if I write an open bracket followed by a space like this: ( and then continue typing, I then can't go back and delete that space with the backspace key. Once the editor also managed to delete everything from the cursor to the end of message when I was just trying to delete a selected word (no idea how to reproduce this, it was completely random). I'm writing this as a single paragraph, just to demonstrate the weird wrapping that's happening. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > The most difficult light bulb to replace burns out first and most frequently. -- Occam's Electric Razor TheBat! Version 9.4.2.6 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2.1
On Monday, July 12, 2021, 21:39:29, Gunivortus Goos wrote: > Did both in previous versions and didn't have problems. mid: links froze The Bat in previous version, they work now. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > No matter which way you ride, it's uphill and against the wind. -- First Law of Bicycling TheBat! Version 9.4.2.1 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2: HTML editor not ready for release
On Sunday, July 11, 2021, 21:03:58, mse wrote: > I assume it is because of the additional dot after the @-sign. Additional dot? -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Enough research will tend to support your theory. -- Murphy's Law of Research TheBat! Version 9.4.2 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2: HTML editor not ready for release
On Sunday, July 11, 2021, 19:02:09, MAU wrote: > Second, I clicked on the link and it does not work. TB just stalls with the > turning circle (what used to be the hourglass) and TB does not respond at > all. I had to kill it with Task Manager. Yeah, same thing happened here. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > If things were left to chance, they'd be better -- Langin's Law TheBat! Version 9.4.2 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2
On Saturday, July 10, 2021, 10:03:31, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > [*] Update Chromium Engine (CEF) to v91.1 Looks like this enabled forced-colors flag (chrome://flags/#forced-colors in Chromium-based browsers), which replaces colours according to high contrast colour scheme, and unfortunately also disables background images. It would be nice if there was a setting to disable this (I found TB's own colour replacement to work much better than forced-colors that Microsoft came up with; I similarly disable this in my browser, because it breaks most web pages). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Nothing is so good as it seems beforehand. -- Eliot's Observation TheBat! Version 9.4.2 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.4.2: HTML editor not ready for release
On Sunday, July 11, 2021, 13:35:40, Thomas Fernandez wrote: > Well, it works in the plaintext viewer but it does *not* work in the HTML > viewer. I see the message number highlighted and clickable, but nothing > happens. Did you make the link yourself, or was it made automatically? Because if I paste , TB makes the link automatically, and it should work once I post it (since it includes the mid: prefix, which your link lacked). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Where there's a will, there's a won't. -- Law of Inertia TheBat! Version 9.4.2 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v9.4 MSI - Microsoft Store
On Tuesday, July 6, 2021, 10:25:41, Jernej Simončič wrote: > On Tuesday, July 6, 2021, 03:43:54, Thomas Fernandez wrote: >> Any chance you can get TB! onto that store, so that we also can choose it as >> the default app for Mail in Settings? …and here's another bug: the image I inserted in the previous message is 21242 bytes on my disk, but The Bat somehow blew it up to 29559 bytes – this definitely shouldn't happen. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > A theory is better than an explanation. -- Woodward's Law TheBat! Version 9.4 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v9.4 MSI - Microsoft Store
On Tuesday, July 6, 2021, 03:43:54, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Any chance you can get TB! onto that store, so that we also can choose it as the default app for Mail in Settings? The Bat is my default e-mail app in Settings: -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Matter will be damaged in direct proportion to its value. -- Murphy's Constant TheBat! Version 9.4 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v9.4 MSI
On Monday, July 5, 2021, 21:29:46, Tony Brookes wrote: > Standard setting in Windows 10 - you can choose to install apps from anywhere > or JUST from the store... Yeah, I knew instantly what it was, it's just that it's not something I'd deliberately set to anything other than "Anywhere" on my own machine. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > You can observe a lot just by watching. -- Berra's Law TheBat! Version 9.4 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v9.4 MSI
On Monday, July 5, 2021, 19:17:59, MAU wrote: > When trying to install the .msi I got a warning about not being an app > from Microsoft store. I had to change my Windows 10 configuration > settings to allow installing apps from "anywhere, but warn me before > installing". I had never seen this with TB msis or any other app. I've had that happen once, but not with The Bat — the setting somehow got toggled behind my back. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > If God had intended for us to go to concerts, He would have given us tickets. -- Farrow's Finding TheBat! Version 9.4 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v9.4 MSI
On Friday, July 2, 2021, 15:40:51, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_64_9-4.msi Looks like the pinned icon survived even after rebooting my computer (except it's blank now…) -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference. -- First Law of Debate TheBat! Version 9.4 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v9.4 MSI Can't save html from message
On Monday, July 5, 2021, 10:10:36, George Salnik wrote: > In 9.3 and early I can save HTML from message (any HTML messages have > message.HTML in the attached files). Right now I can't! Attached files panel > don't shows! Preferences → Viewer/Editor → Show HTML-related parts -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > What the gods get away with, the cows don't. -- The Aquinas Axiom TheBat! Version 9.4 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Preview pane missing
On Saturday, July 3, 2021, 10:10:59, Thomas Fernandez wrote: > Any idea what the reason could be? I probably inadvertedly hit some crtl-key > combo... Workspace → Message auto-view maybe? > Remark: avast! updated in the background and I thought that may have to do > with it. However, I disabled avast!, restarted the computer, and still no > preview pane. (I have enabled avast! again, don't worry.) I suggest you get rid of Avast, it turned into spyware. The built-in Windows Defender is more than sufficient for home users. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > After things have gone from bad to worse, the cycle will repeat itself. -- Farnsdick's corollary TheBat! Version 9.4 (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.3.4.24
On Sunday, June 27, 2021, 15:42:29, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.3.4.24-x64.7z Oh, and I just noticed a 3rd problem: when you move from a plain-text message without a scrollbar to a message with one in the same folder, the scrollbar is shown, but doesn't have its thumb visible and also doesn't respond to clicks (using a mouse wheel makes it work again though). I can reproduce this problem at will in my TBBeta folder by going from to -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > All inanimate objects can move just enough to get in your way. -- Law of Inanimate Mobility TheBat! Version 9.3.4.24 Beta (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.3.4.24
On Sunday, June 27, 2021, 15:42:29, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.3.4.24-x64.7z I noticed two problems (though I don't think they're new in this version, it's just that I only noticed now): - when I forward HTML messages in one specific account, national characters get mangled (eg. š becomes ĹĄ). I have no idea why – if I move the message to a different account and forward it from there, the national characters remain unchanged - if I insert an emoji (eg. 臘) in plain text editor, and then backspace over it, it changes to a crossed over box, and I have to backspace again to delete it fully; the problem doesn't happen in HTML editor …and when I tried sending this message, I got (probably because I left the half-deleted emoji in the message at first): --- Edit Mail Message -> "Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA on [tbbeta]" <><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > The nail that sticks up gets hammered down. -- Advanced Systems News Letter TheBat! Version 9.3.4.24 Beta (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.3.4.19 - issues with increase/decrease block's indent
On Monday, June 21, 2021, 21:59:50, mse wrote: > 1. When using Tab to indent a block, the following blocks move upwards in the > mail. Take this mail for example. Place cursor right here an press tab 5-8 > times: The signature has moved upwards considerably. See screenshot: This is completely broken for me – Tab indents entire message, and editing becomes unpredictable afterwards (paragraphs jump around the whole message if you try deleting linebreaks). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > There are many inside dopes in politics and government. -- Law of Inside Dope TheBat! Version 9.3.4.19 Alpha (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML viewer: Some URLs not clickable and not highlighted
On Friday, June 18, 2021, 13:11:36, Thomas Fernandez wrote: > I see gibberish in one mail, in the other I see the HTML code. Anyway, I am > glad to know that you have already identified the bug in the HTML viewer. If you have the attachment pane visible, double-click the Message.html visible there, which should open the message in your browser. Check if the URLs work there – if they don't, it's not TB's problem; if they do, right-click the URL (in the browser), choose Inspect (or Developer tools → Inspect), and copy a few lines around the URL and paste them in the message (and of course remove any private information). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Our customer's paperwork is profit. Our own paperwork is loss. -- (Tony) Brown's Law of Business Success TheBat! Version 9.3.4.16 Apha (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML editor tab misbehaviour
On Friday, June 18, 2021, 03:22:26, Thomas Fernandez wrote: > Confirmations? Confirmed (though as long as I don't leave the To field, Ctrl+Z undoes the typing). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > People will believe anything if you whisper it. -- The Whispered Rule TheBat! Version 9.3.4.16 Apha (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.3.4.16
On Tuesday, June 15, 2021, 11:24:53, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > There should be something special about those HTML messages. Could you please > send me some examples? This happens with every HTML message that needs scrolling. Here's an example with horizontal scrollbar: <https://eternallybored.org/misc/imgs/thebat/scroll1.gif> And an example without a horizontal scrollbar: <https://eternallybored.org/misc/imgs/thebat/scroll2.gif> Pay attention to the line with highlighted text (blue background) in both examples. If you wish, I can still send these two messages to you, but the same thing happens with every long HTML message. It might be due to my DPI level - I've got Windows set to 225%. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > No matter where you are, there you are. -- Oliver's Law of Location TheBat! Version 9.3.4.16 Apha (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.3.4.16
On Friday, June 11, 2021, 21:09:26, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.3.4.16-x64-full.7z Noticed a problem in the HTML viewer: spacebar scrolls too far if there's a horizontal scrollbar present (actually, I'd argue that spacebar always scrolls too far, because if there's no horizontal scrollbar, but the last line of text is only partially visible, it'll only be partially visible after spacebar scrolling; this problem doesn't happen if you click the shaded area of the vertical scrollbar). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Incompetence plus incompetence equals incompetence. -- Peter's Theorem TheBat! Version 9.3.4.16 Apha (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.3.4.16
On Friday, June 11, 2021, 23:53:07, Jernej Simončič wrote: > Also, when inserting images into HTML messages, they appear at what looks > like 200% zoom – might be related to high contrast, too (let's see how this > inserted image appears once I send the message). The image is definitely zoomed in for me. Also noticed another problem – the image file I was inserting was 8735 bytes on disk; when I saved the message as draft, it somehow became 12648 bytes; after I opened the draft and sent it, the image somehow became 16 kB, almost twice the size of the original. This probably shouldn't happen. And a spell checker problem: in the word "shouldn't" above (and here), the "shouldn" part is treated as if spelled wrongly (red underline) – looks like the checker is treating ' as word separator for some reason. Also, there's a misspelling in the version number: Apha :) -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Any simple idea must be worded in the most complicated way. -- Attorneys Operating Principle TheBat! Version 9.3.4.16 Apha (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.3.4.16
On Friday, June 11, 2021, 21:09:26, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.3.4.16-x64-full.7z I noticed that the colour drop-downs in Preferences are broken (at least in high-DPI mode):Also, when inserting images into HTML messages, they appear at what looks like 200% zoom – might be related to high contrast, too (let's see how this inserted image appears once I send the message).I can see that the scrollbars in HTML messages now have the arrow buttons, which were missing previously. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > If all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. -- Baruch's Observation TheBat! Version 9.3.4.16 Apha (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.3.4.14 HTML: Drag or pasting of pictures
On Saturday, June 5, 2021, 04:00:06, Thomas Fernandez wrote: > Could you try with a .jpg file? I can't paste a JPEG, because clipboard data is just a raw bitmap (and TB itself [or, more likely CEF] converts it to PNG), and drag & drop doesn't work (results in just a small blank square). -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Good times end too quickly. Bad times go on forever. -- Time Observation TheBat! Version 9.3.4.14 Apha (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.3.4.14 HTML: Scrollbar
On Friday, June 4, 2021, 16:04:50, Thomas Fernandez wrote: > crtl-V? Didn't work over here, I just received a small square. > However, mine was a .jpg, yours a .png. Maybe that's what made the differece? Ctrl+V, and the clipboard held the image made with Win+Shift+S. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Money isn't everything. (It isn't plentiful, for instance.) -- Money Maxim TheBat! Version 9.3.4.14 Apha (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.3.4.14 HTML: Scrollbar
On Friday, June 4, 2021, 05:56:09, Thomas Fernandez wrote: > How did you get the picture inserted? I am attaching mine. I simply pasted it into the HTML message. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > When you don't know what to do, walk fast and look worried. -- Panic Instruction TheBat! Version 9.3.4.14 Apha (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.3.4.14 HTML: Scrollbar
On Thursday, June 3, 2021, 13:47:45, Thomas Fernandez wrote: > Not confirmed, I have the scrollbar as well as the up/down buttons (arrows) > over here. Both in the editor and the viewer. When looking at HTML messages? -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Hot glass looks exactly the same as cold glass. -- First Law of Laboratory Work TheBat! Version 9.3.4.14 Apha (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.3.4.14
On Saturday, May 29, 2021, 14:09:19, Ethan J. Mings wrote: > This is a problem with The Bat. Tech support at the email server house was > unable to reproduce the problem with Thunderbird. Did you change the TLS implementation to CryptoAPI? If you didn't, that's the most likely reason for your problem. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > This will hurt me more than it hurts you. -- Hare's Additional Lie TheBat! Version 9.3.4.14 Apha (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.3.4.14
On Friday, May 28, 2021, 07:50:03, Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA wrote: > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb9.3.4.14-x64-full.7z Here's one thing that's annoyed me ever since the switch to CEF for HTML messages: the scrollbar doesn't have up/down buttons at the top and bottom, so it's impossible to scroll just 1 line with a mouseclick. Another annoyance is that spacebar scrolling scrolls exactly 1 viewport height, meaning if there's a partially visible line of text at the bottom of the window, the same line will be partially visible at the top after scrolling (which makes spacebar scrolling rather unusable). Also, when hovering over a link in HTML viewer, the tooltip at the bottom of the window is still only partially visible. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > A falling body always rolls to the most inaccessible spot. -- Bernstein's Second Law TheBat! Version 9.3.4.14 Apha (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.3.4.14
On Friday, May 28, 2021, 18:13:27, Ethan J. Mings wrote: > The program is working well on other email server platforms. Try Options → S/MIME and TLS → Microsoft CryptoAPI - that'll let The Bat use Windows' certificate store, which is more up-to-date than it's internal one. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< https://eternallybored.org/ > Just when you see the light at the end of the tunnel, the roof caves in. -- Forsyth's Second Corollary to Murphy's Laws TheBat! Version 9.3.4.14 Apha (64-bit), Windows 10.0.19043 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
