Re: User-unfriendliness

is not lost. You did everything you could, hands are clean, user was warned correctly about what he's doing. Vili Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: User-unfriendliness

is details for me, let you (tech guys with more in-depth knowledge than me) discuss and implement the best option :) Vili Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: User-unfriendliness

the small companies will not update their certificate, financial issues, and then TB is dead... You dont want that. This is my two eurocents, Vili Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat

Re: User-unfriendliness

. Vili PS: Ritlabs: for me, for us, it is always easier to criticize. Always the first line takes the bullet, which is you. I know that. But if you want to build, be the best, you have to be critical to yourself. Current beta is 4.2.33.9

Re: User-unfriendliness

an academic discussion about it. At the end what matters is the result. Can or cant I send an email. Everything else is just waste of time. You dont want to hear the details about all parts of your car, it should just run. Vili Current beta

Test Play sound in filter

want to restart TB) Reproducible? -- Vili Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Re[2]: The Bat! 5.0.0.9 ALPHA - http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb5009.rar

when Ritlabs kicked out Dieter Hummel because he asked for hard evidence and facts. Hope, I wont be kicked out for the same reason. Vili Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Re[2]: Did I miss the funeral?

that. Vili Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: syncing contacts from address book

Is there any way to SYNC the address book with ANYTHING? 2 words: ldap addressbook 2 words: More details? :) Vili Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: syncing contacts from address book

.  This  was  invented  like 10 years ago. And I still cannot believe nobody heard of it. Do I see well that OpenLDAP is for Linux? I think that is a problem for most of us. Vili Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http

Re: [New feature] Missing attachment reminder

, tourdefrance, niktoneotsustvuyet.. etc. depending on his language) Be sure, TB only checks the text the user entered, not the quoted text. -- Vili Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat

LDAP server

Is anybody an expert in using an LDAP server with TB? Vili Current beta is 4.2.35 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: launch time increasing more and more

. Otherwise it is like when people eat 3 hamburgers for lunch, but drink Diet Coke... Right? Vili - -- Regards, Peter | The Bat! 4.2.35 - multiple POP3 accounts | Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional | Version 5.00.2195 - Service Pack 4 | CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor,1400MHz | RAM: 2048 MB

Re: Re[2]: 4.2.24.3

it configurable. User v1.0 needs info about everything, let them read. Vili, after finishing a deal on a 31-user prof license, and listening to v1.0 users :) Current beta is 4.2.24.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat

Re: Edit as New?

addressee lists, which are tedious enough to enter now that the address drop-menu is gone from the To:, CC: and BCC: fields in the Edit Mail Message window. Copy the mail into your Outbox and edit. Vili Current beta is 4.2.13.3 | 'Using TBBETA

Re: Respect (was: New MSI on Ritlabs site)

with the discussion about Menu navigator when there are MUCH bigger issues??? -- Vili Current beta is 4.2.13.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: New MSI on Ritlabs site

He could try out the latest beta as well: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb42131.rar beta or alpha ?!? Whatever it is, this is not how the issue should be handled :( -- Vili Current beta is 4.2.13.2 | 'Using

Re: Respect (was: New MSI on Ritlabs site)

And of course pay attention to your diction! :-/ Just one more thing: please watch an episode of Dirty jobs on the Discovery Channel. That is real life. That is how many people has to work to get a living. I did some of those jobs. I remember. So, I dont keep my mouth shut and be artificially

Re: 4.2.10.17

this + will introduce new bugs. :( Cant we get at least some hope that relevant changes will follow?? I feel like somebody whose relative is missing: tell me that he's dead so I can get a closure. Tell us if TB development is dead, so we can move on... Vili

Re: 4.2.10.17

[+] Web-like search is now available in Message Finder Good to see this before fixing e.g.: 0007734: Templates: Inserting/copying template throws exception seems Stef is listening and this one is fixed now too! Vili, dev is not dead ;-) Good to read it. Tell them that we need some kind

Mea culpa, postponed sending

accepted. Talk to the hand :) b.) We have 8 week seasons where I play soccer. Every week it is a different time on a Friday night. Now I set up 8 mails to go out on Thursdays to remember the team when we play the next day. So, mea culpa, this feature can be used. -- Vili

buggy QTs

Make a QT in HTML format, insert a picture. When you use the QT in a HTML mail, the pic is not inserted. Confirmations? -- Vili Current beta is 4.2.10.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Postponed Sending broken

users what is a good use (killer app) for the delayed sending. Vili Current beta is 4.2.10.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Customising of toolbar is faulty

a roadmap. -- Vili Current beta is 4.2.10.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: problems reading certain html messages with latest betas

The HTML engine, the MAPI engine and the IMAP engine are all broken, would need a complete overhaul. Not even worth reporting anything. Vili On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Dwight Corrindcor...@fastmail.fm wrote: I subscribe to certain (html) newsletters from www.slate.com Today I

Search windows

) Any more idea? -- Vili Current beta is 4.2.9.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Feature Request Rewrite Subject

reply... Vili Current beta is 4.2.9.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Feature Request Message-ID Link

is there any possibility to open a malformed Message-ID Link like: 200906281855.11598.lis...@domain.com maybe by marking/selecting and Kontext Menue open as Message-ID? How will TB know that it is not an email address, if it does not have a tag before it? Vili

Re: 4.2.9.0

Did you try to run Charmap and select those fonts to ensure that they have Thai characters? I don't know what you talking about. Charmap? Start, Run, type in charmap and select the font to check that Thai characters shows up using that font. Vili

New install, restoring (old) backup, problem with sending mail

ping-pong (you do it, no, you do it) still no answer? What is your experience, if any? I try to help my users immediately or max 1 day. Am I overzealous? -- Vili Current beta is 4.2.7.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http

Re: New install, restoring (old) backup, problem with sending mail

be prompted about this. I dont remember a prompt. Maybe it said something but allowed the restore. Answers... as a programmer: come on. Dont allow it then! Dont just use a prompt. as a distributor: Another thing that should be fixed before delayed sending, etc. implemented. Vili

MAPI, Exchange, Bat sux

and work with it. It seems to be ok. I quit from TB, restart it, download mails, and AGAIN it download all (or nearly all). How can I stop this charade? Should not it know from somewhere that it downloaded a mail or not? -- Vili Current

Re: MAPI, Exchange

with MAPI. Then quit, start Outlook. Quit Outlook. Start TB. It does not work anymore like it did before. You can check the exact communication between TB and the API and figure out the problem here. Sooner or later somebody at TBBETA and your users will have this problem. It is a timebomb bug. Vili

MAPI, need help

- connection finished - 0 messages received The mapi32.dll in the windows/system32 dir did not change. I need some urgent help. I have an email client that cannot download emails. I think, something has changed in my XP system after I started outlook that affected TB, but what is it? -- Vili

MAPI, Exchange

received so, it seems to be ok, but neither the message was sent (however, it is in the Sent folder), nor new messages can be downloaded (I have a server side forward setup for month, so I know that the email I sent to my Exchange account has arrived. It is somethimg to fix. -- Vili

Re: Again IMAP Support (was: The Bat! 4.2 release)

. Question - does this need to go into a bug track report?  If so, glad to support it. I dont know if you have to say anything. They know I think that the help is old. BBP. Vili Current beta is 4.2.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http

IMAP

things will never happen. You lose trust and respect. You lose the good guys and sonner or later all you will have after a beta release is some up and running beta testers. (No offense.) -- Vili Current beta is 4.1.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA

Re: Sorting Office Problem/Suggestion

of the messages I was looking for.  I wanted to increase the log size, or have it written to disk, but I cannot find any log control settings in the preferences dialog. Account, Properties. Anyway: right click on the mail and Test filters. Vili

Re: The Bat! release date

else's code, but it just needs time. Vili Current beta is 4.1.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Spell checking

A user reported that if Office is installed, the CSAPI engine has priority over the Hunspell directories. The Hunspell works fine if Office is not installed. Confirmation? -- Vili Current beta is 4.1.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information

Wish: Note area on the main screen

there is a reason, I dont know. -- Vili Current beta is 4.1.11.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Language file, should be fixed ASAP

settings in TB. -- Vili Current beta is 4.1.11.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: 4.1.11.17 Attachment Numbers

when it is not called message.htm or message.html. Vili PS: I dont get us. Wasting time on it... :-) Current beta is 4.1.11.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Number of attachments

:) They never failed me. Ok, exceptions can be found everywhere. Anyway, this is my two cents. I just wish if Ritlabs would be as professional as it software was, and kind of still is, in their management. -- Vili Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using

Re: Number of attachments

revenue, nor rebuild the respect of TB. There are MANY bugs that affect the use of TB, this is just another gadget and Ritlabs and the beta testers waste energy/time/money on it... Vili Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information

Re: Number of attachments

of cosmetic improvement that can make the Bat more saleable. What is useful in it? How often you use it to gather some extra information by knowing the number of attachments? Vili Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http

Re: Number of attachments

to fix... Then it's time to start fixing them... Vili Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Stop adding, start fixing

Subject says all. Time to start fixing bugs. Ritlabs please stop adding new features. Make an inventory of the bugs (go thru BT) and start fixing the bugs one by one. -- Vili Current beta is 4.1.11.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http

Re: Maximum number/age of messages in a folder

If it is WAD, I suggest to have a Delete unread mails too checkbox there. Confirmations, support? I did not test it, but i will, as soon time permits. And if it works as described, I support the delete all, even unread Messages. It works that way. -- Vili

Re: Maximum number/age of messages in a folder

If it is WAD, I suggest to have a Delete unread mails too checkbox there. Confirmations, support? I did not test it, but i will, as soon time permits. And if it works as described, I support the delete all, even unread Messages. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7513

Re: Maximum number/age of messages in a folder

'. It works for me, though I haven't tested in the latest version, it always has in the past. Ah... Thanks. You are right. I clode the bug report. Vili Current beta is 4.1.11.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat

Print an attached image

If I open an attached image, I can see it. I press Ctrl+P, and the text of the mail is printed. I think, the correct behaviour would be that hitting Ctrl+P in the image viewer would cause the image to be printed. -- Vili Current beta

Re: News: Thunderbird IMAP

, but this is not an ideal world now. -- Vili Current beta is 4.1.11.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: News: Thunderbird IMAP

. Thanks MAU, I remembered this mail too. There _was_ a note to rewrite from (almost) scratch. -- Vili Current beta is 4.1.11.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: News: Thunderbird IMAP

better or different. So, + in your first sentence and - in your second one. It was confusing. I am not an English major myself :), so it is not a criticism, just a note. -- Vili Current beta is 4.1.11.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http

Re: News: Thunderbird IMAP

this in future emails: Christian wrote: Yesterday I had a hamburger for dinner with some cheap red wine from England. (Joking of course :) I just saw the movie 2 days in Paris, the lunch scene is hillarious :) -- Vili Current beta

Forwarding an HTML mail with added text is faulty

part of the mail. Is it normal behaviour, or I should not add text to the text part, or what? -- Vili Current beta is 4.1.11.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Forwarding an HTML mail with added text is faulty

. -- Vili Current beta is 4.1.11.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Unusable sorting office in 4.1.11.2

to handle it. TB is like a table that is full of the best foods on the world = Sensational ideas, bright thinking, brilliant inventions. However, there is just a small piece of crap in the corner of the table = Annoying bugs. Whose got appetite? -- Vili

Re: Re[2]: Forwarding an HTML mail with added text is faulty

will test it with simple POP accounts and see if I can reproduce it. Vili Current beta is 4.1.11.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Memory leak?

So, as I wrote earlier, my VM runs up when reply to a mail. I managed to track down to the Reply template. So, if my reply template is empty, %BLANK, replying a mail will not really increase the VM size. BUT: if I have a simple %QUOTES %CURSOR Vili reply template, then replying to a 3-line

Re: Issue in the Message list

it. On the Color group page I did not find the option how to modify the font itself. Where was it moved? Vili Current beta is 4.1.11.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Issue in the Message list

I tried to change the font of the message list in my v4.0.28, I could not find it. On the Color group page I did not find the option how to modify the font itself. Where was it moved? try Message list section Ahhh I looked at it like 100 times, still missed it. Thanks, Vili

Re: Issue in the Message list

at the same tim Please see the attached png After hacking into your PC and opening the raw messages on your PC, I see that he used different charsets. Is that right? -- Vili Current beta is 4.1.11.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http

Re: Issue in the Message list

. I wanted to scare you :) Anyway: The change of character set was in the subject line of all places. What does it mean? -- Vili Current beta is 4.1.11.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Issue in the Message list

. Export them as Unix mailbox, send to me in a private mail and I send you the answer. Vili Current beta is 4.1.11.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: TB doesn't print a second message:

, but doesn't print. Cannot confirm. But it should not close the window after the mail is printed. It is not replying/forwarding... -- Vili Current beta is 4.1.9.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat

Re: Development for URL manager

I had this idea. Good to hear that you will implement it. -- Vili Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Development for URL manager

it the best idea. Agree. Ok, let's call it Expert User option, so we dont hurt our feelings :) Vili Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Quick Search suddenly Invisible

right-click on the the toolbar dock and choose it from the pop-up menu. Note: Quick Search also works when its toolbar is not visible. Beware: Quick Search works on a selected folder/account only! Vili Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using

Re: Voyager 4.1.7.3

folder problem, right? Vili Current beta is 4.1.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Take out the automatic update from the program

dont answer to others mails, I dont want to make this thread superlong. -- Vili Current beta is 4.1.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Re[2]: Take out the automatic update from the program

), that is their problem. Your official site should be and is now correct. Thank you again, Vili Current beta is 4.1.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Take out the automatic update from the program

the website is corrected appropriately,nobody can complain. Vili Current beta is 4.1.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Folders with 0 messages after conversion

That is one reason I still dont publish v4.1 on my Hungarian site. Who knows what major bug is in v4.1.9. These kinds of stuff should NEVER happen. A version should be tested for a month at least before a public release. We are professionals, but the users are not. :((( Vili, index

Re[2]: HTML Templates in AB Groups

Can you please answer one simple question: do you consider implementing HTML templates in Address Book groups? And for contacts. And for mass mailing. ... Perfect :). Customers demand it :( -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.39.27 (ALPHA

Re[2]: messages go missing

if that is because of an antivirus) as the fault of TB, should be displayed. As Davis said: he does not care what the reason is, he need a solution. -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.39.27 (ALPHA) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http

Re[2]: messages go missing

the user if mails cannot be imported into TB. This thread -except the first some mails- is about this issue. Just some people cannot/does not want to read. Please understand that not everybody is a TB expert. Even if they would read the manual... -- Vili

Re[2]: messages go missing

not to be sarcastic. Ok. Let's base this discussion on facts. You see the facts above. Waiting your answer. -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.39.27 (ALPHA) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: fixed a bug in scheduler (not an ALPHA)

with this? -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.37.26 (ALPHA) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: fixed a bug in scheduler (not an ALPHA)

connect to the Exchange server now. -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.37.26 (ALPHA) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re[2]: messages go missing

delete from server if it could store it. Mail SHOULD NEVER BE LOST because of TB. Users will bite our asses... -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.34.25 (ALPHA) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

One Address book per user

So, in a multiuser Windows environment, if different users run TB, they see different accounts. But the addressbook is the same. Or is it possible to have different address books for the different users? -- Vili Current beta

Re[2]: Multi Monitor support lacking

G450 card, never any problem. On some other PCs we have ATIs, all kinds of problems. You have to use that HydraVision software, but that has its own issues. -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.34.22 (ALPHA) | 'Using TBBETA' information

Re[2]: An irritating problem (edit message window)

I can not confirm... the new message window is always in the last used position, height and weight. Is it possible, that if you have admin rights, then it is saved, if you have user rights, it's not? Vili Current beta is 4.0.34.16

Upgrade from 4.0.20.1. to the newest

I did not follow closely the recent beta cycle, but there was some problem with index files. Can I just replace the exe file to upgrade from the version in the subject to the newest version? -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.34.15

Problems with 4.0.34.15

like this: fname lname lt;/spana class=rvts7 href= and in the Body of the mail the last line looks like this: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.34.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http

Re: Problems with 4.0.34.15

I gave up on this alpha. After I sent a mail, it left a mail with Draft flag in my Outbox. When I clicked on it, it went into an endless loop of error messages. Also, my Run external program+Move mail filter hang. Back to 20.1. -- Vili

Folder size

Whatever I do in a folder, the size of it in the folder list does not change. Deleted all mails from Trash, Compressed, restarted TB, it is still shown as 63 MB. -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.34.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http

Re[2]: SmartBat, new feature should be revoked

, as a workaround. I have like 20 tabs :) Passwords, banks, to do, one for each software we resell, etc.) -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.34.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re[2]: SmartBat, new feature should be revoked

, as a workaround. I have like 20 tabs :) Passwords, banks, to do, one for each software we resell, etc.) You can wait if will be moving tabs implemented in Smartbat od change order in SmartBat.INI (if You do not use OTFE) Actually, I use Voyager, so I cannot edit that... :(( -- Vili

Request, decoding utility

:) (jost joking) - if Voyager is messed up, mails cannot be read anymore... So, this utility would allow saving info from encoded files. You have to know the password, though. -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.34.13 | 'Using TBBETA

Re[3]: Request, decoding utility

! Is the password enough to decode these files? Or is there any other code that is used in the encoding/decoding process? -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.34.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re[2]: Request, decoding utility

, import mails, ready to go. It is not possible to import from EBB files. -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.34.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Slow shutdown speed is back again...

I just noticed, when I tried to install the latest beta on my machine, that the slow shutdown times for Tb are back again. I concur. It is noticeable at Voyager, too. -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.34.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information

Tips at startup

I dont see a way to switch them back, once they turned off... -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.34.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

re: Tips at startup

I dont see a way to switch them back, once they turned off... Forget it, sorry, found it. Vili Current beta is 4.0.34.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

The Bat!/Voyager and Microsoft ForeFront

So, if TB or TBV is installed along Microsoft ForeFront, than MsMPEng.exe's CPU usage is 99% all the time... There is an issue between Ritlabs' products and ForeFront. If the directory of TB or TBV is added to the exclusions, everything is fine. -- Vili

Voyager, SmartBat

There is no Minimize, Resize and Maximize icons at this window. Only the X is visible. -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.34.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Voyager, SmartBat, 2.

The Main pad cannot be closed (while selecting close from the context menu is possible). -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.34.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

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