Re: 5.0.12.3 ALREADY DESTROYED!!!
> On Thursday, May 19, 2011, 8:25:28 AM, Rick wrote: > >> ALREADY DESTROYED!!! message followed by the blank progress bar that >> goes nowhere. I needed TM to kill the Bat > how would one try to duplicate this? > I get it when I am highlighting multiple messages for deletion. It happens randomly. I am usually in common folders -- Rick Never deprive someone of hope; it might be all they have. - H. Jackson Brown Jr. v5.0.12.3 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 ____ Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3 ALREADY DESTROYED!!!
Hi Rick On Thursday, May 19, 2011 3:25:28 PM you wrote: > ALREADY DESTROYED!!! message followed by the blank progress bar that > goes nowhere. I needed TM to kill the Bat Today I got this error again - and had to kill TheBat! After starting Thebat! it checked an IMAP account and there were new messages. After clicking on one of a new one in the message list I got this error. -- Best regards, Martin dagob...@yahoo.com TheBat! 5.0.12.3 (BETA) Pro (no OTFE) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3 ALREADY DESTROYED!!!
On Thursday, May 19, 2011, 8:25:28 AM, Rick wrote: > ALREADY DESTROYED!!! message followed by the blank progress bar that > goes nowhere. I needed TM to kill the Bat how would one try to duplicate this? -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.0.12.3 (BETA) on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
5.0.12.3 ALREADY DESTROYED!!!
ALREADY DESTROYED!!! message followed by the blank progress bar that goes nowhere. I needed TM to kill the Bat Date: 19 May 2011 09:18:02 OS: Windows XP Service Pack 3 build 2600 PhysMemFreeTotal: 1009/2039 MB VirtMemFreeTotal: 1819/2047 MB Address: 00479D91 ClassName: Exception Message: TMBaseSetMessagePropertiesAction.FindIdx --- ALREADY DESTROYED!!! IsOSException: 0 Modules: 0040 20110513175115 C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe Stack: 00479D91 [0040] 00479D8C [0040] 0048B437 [0040] 0048B744 [0040] 00468A17 [0040] 0047469C [0040] 004746B3 [0040] 00404D82 [0040] 00551C76 [0040] 00551CF1 [0040] 0055DE33 [0040] 0055DA6D [0040] 00479E94 [0040] 0047B987 [0040] 00479A65 [0040] 00404FC1 [0040] 0047B77C [0040] 0083CE41 [0040] 0083CF3A [0040] 00BDE329 [0040] 00BDFCFB [0040] 00BDE457 [0040] 00A92E70 [0040] 00A92B42 [0040] 00A6BD85 [0040] 00A92CFE [0040] 00A92B70 [0040] 00480B2A [0040] 00A726FA [0040] 00C587B3 [0040] 00C58652 [0040] 00C58917 [0040] 00404E57 [0040] 005718D7 [0040] 00575B66 [0040] 00575138 [0040] 004751A8 [0040] 0056C6F2 [0040] 00567771 [0040] 005677AA [0040] 00567A02 [0040] 00C9D3D3 [0040] 00CA2A8A [0040] 00CA9284 [0040] -- Rick A successful marriage requires falling in love many times, always with the same person. v5.0.12.3 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
G'day, as I had to re-install my PC, as saw that in this latest beta, the automatic backup, the backups are not installed in the directory I defined in the settings, but stay in the TheBat\Mail directory. Anyone else have this issue? -- Marcus J. Using TheBat! 5.0.12.3 (BETA) on Windows 7 Pro x64 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 5.0.12.3 - Plain Text (Windows) Switching
Hello all, Friday, May 13, 2011, Rick wrote: >> Just found a bug ; while replaying to your HTML message when I >> selected Plain Text (Windows) a message you wrote had vanished. >> >> Replaying at the moment in Plain Text (MicroEd). >> >> After typing a text in MicroEd and switching to any mode message >> becomes empty. > REPLYING to a plain text message brings up a blank email. It seems to be > ok with HTML. This is a show stopper confirmed for Windows plaintext editor, Microed works OK. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 5.0.12.3 (BETA) under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.6.4 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.40 GHz, 4 GB RAM ____ Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Hi Marc On Sunday, May 15, 2011 9:52:55 PM you wrote: > Opening an image file is not possible with vers 5.0.12.3 without external > viewer :-( > No problem with previous version... Can not confirm - tested with *.bmp, *.gif, *.jpg, *.png - all files are displayed. -- Best regards, Martin dagob...@yahoo.com TheBat! 5.0.12.3 (BETA) Pro (with OTFE) on Windows Vista 6.0 6002 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Open files in foreign languages (was: 5.0.12.3)
Hello RS, On Mon, 16 May 2011 11:53:12 +0800 GMT (16/May/11, 10:53 AM +0700 GMT), RS wrote: RS >> If you could fix as well direcr opening attachments would be RS >> much appreciated :) R> I meant here unability to open directly files with Chinese characters R> in the name (described in the note I added before to the issue). FWIW this is not new to v5. I have the same problem with Thai language attachments in v4. Always have to save them first, cannot open directly from TB!. Error message: "Cannot open ?.doc" or something like that. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 ____ Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3 ('Cannot open clipboard' error)
Dear RS, > While replyong to that message I had copy a footer to move it down I > got a message "Cannot open clipboard". Happened a few times so far > (5.0.12 and 5.0.13). Didn't happen to me when I was using 5.0.8. > Is it known bug or should I report it? Found it: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7729 Note, log and print screen added. -- Best regards, RS ____ Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Hi Maxim, Maxim >>> However, you may consider scanning a string and put '-' Maxim >>> between digits and '_' between words and words_digits. Maxim >> Good idea, thank you, we wil do that, I've added a Maxim >> comment to https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8704 RS > If you could fix as well direcr opening attachments would be RS > much appreciated :) I meant here unability to open directly files with Chinese characters in the name (described in the note I added before to the issue). -- Best regards, RS ____ Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Hallo Marc, On Sun, 15 May 2011 21:52:55 +0200GMT (15-5-2011, 21:52 , where I live), you wrote: M> Opening an image file is not possible with vers 5.0.12.3 without external viewer :-( Cannot confirm, tested with a message with four attached JPGs. -- Groetjes, Roelof Borg Moderator: Your Topic Is Irrelevant, your arguments are futile. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.12.3 (BETA) Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpugw4Bc1MVZ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Title: Re: 5.0.12.3 Hello The Bat, Friday, May 13, 2011 - 7:53:32 PM, our friend Maxim Masiutin wrote: MM> The Bat! 5.0.12.3 (BETA) is available at MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb50123.rar MM> What's new in 5.0.12.3 since 5.0.12.2: MM> [-] (#0008665) Virtual folders could not be edited MM> [-] Quick Template was passed incorrectly when used with the "Reply using Template" command. MM> [-] IMAP. Folder with national characters in name cannot be used as system folder (Outbox, Sent, ...) MM> [-] Some exceptions must not appear in exception log MM> [-] (#0008704) Problem with opening of the files containing incorrect characters MM> MM> Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: MM> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Opening an image file is not possible with vers 5.0.12.3 without external viewer :-( No problem with previous version... Best regards, mailto:segers.m...@skynet.be XP service pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Dear Maxim, > Hello RS, > Saturday, May 14, 2011, 10:28:32 PM, you wrote: >> However, you may consider scanning a string and put '-' between digits >> and '_' between words and words_digits. > Good idea, thank you, we wil do that, I've added a comment to > https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8704 If you could fix as well direcr opening attachments would be much appreciated :) While replyong to that message I had copy a footer to move it down I got a message "Cannot open clipboard". Happened a few times so far (5.0.12 and 5.0.13). Didn't happen to me when I was using 5.0.8. Is it known bug or should I report it? -- Best regards, RS ____ Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Hello RS, Saturday, May 14, 2011, 10:28:32 PM, you wrote: > However, you may consider scanning a string and put '-' between digits > and '_' between words and words_digits. Good idea, thank you, we wil do that, I've added a comment to https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8704 -- Best regards, Maximmailto:m...@ritlabs.com ____ Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Hello Dwight, On Sat, 14 May 2011 11:58:27 -0500 GMT (14/May/11, 23:58 PM +0700 GMT), Dwight Corrin wrote: >> Except if you change this behaviour, you'll next have somebody >> complain because TB now sticks useless garbage in front of the >> attachment name. DC> well, yes (sigh). if we didn't make someone complain here, would DC> we be doing anything? :) Such as suggestions? Constructive criticism can be a complaint, but it leads to improvement. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Hello RS, On Sun, 15 May 2011 03:28:32 +0800 GMT (15/May/11, 2:28 AM +0700 GMT), RS wrote: >>> File names for both e-mail clients are as follows: >>> TB: CCL_2011-253-71450_FELFRTM00019002_FREDERIK 07-05-2011.PDF >>> TB!: 2011.PDF >> We can replace slash character to minus characters too. Do you think we >> should do that? R> Thank you for reconsidering. R> If there is no possibility to implement at the moment Replacement R> Option we wrote about it would be appreciated as well. R> However, you may consider scanning a string and put '-' between digits R> and '_' between words and words_digits. Complicated. For me, underscores would work. In fact, that's how other softwares do it. However, as mentioned in mid:1132969905.20110515005...@fedara.com it may be wise to make it an option: The user could choose either current behaviour or the newly suggested one. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 ____ Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3 U & R
Hi Tony, Saturday, May 14, 2011, 3:49:09 AM, you wrote: TH> Hello Bob, >> Windows 7 leads to a significant delay in starting. This has been >> true for a month or more. Could this be related to my using >> Kaspersky, I wonder? I don't know. TH> Kaspersky does a complete scan of the new binary upon first run. After TH> the first run, it just does a checksum which is much faster. i'll bet that explains the delay in running TB after every update of the .exe or the .msi. Thank you for tha! -- Take Care, Bob -- "Let there be peace on earth, and let it begin with me." This is our function, our challenge, our fulfillment - and our inheritance, to accept, embrace and share beyond all manmade boundaries. Using The Bat! 5.0.12.3 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 build 7601 Service Pack 1 ____ Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3 U & R
Hi Maxim, Saturday, May 14, 2011, 1:11:38 PM, you wrote: MM> Hello Maxim, MM> Saturday, May 14, 2011, 12:11:19 AM, you wrote: >> I don't know, but we can try to figure it out. MM> Just open Windows Explorer (right mouse button on the "Start" button and MM> select "Open Windows Explorer" and in the path line type %EMAIL% and you will MM> get to the folder where The Bat! keeps its files. %EMAIL% or %APPDATA% are MM> environment variables that store actual path in them. Good think is that MM> Windows Exploerer accepts environment variables in the path location, it MM> expands those variables to the physical path where the files are stored. I sent the one from the email folder yesterday, but from using the appdata line in Windows Explorer (thanks for that tip), I have the second version of ex_log.txt attached - it is much smaller (see last paragraph, below). Did you see the note from someone that Kaspersky may in fact have played a role here - it apparently is cautious in allowing a new .exe file to run the first time (and that is when I see the delay when I click on the start menu shortcut). I just now again ran TB's command-line opening as you suggested - the ex_log.txt file is attached. -- Take Care, Bob -- "Let there be peace on earth, and let it begin with me." This is our function, our challenge, our fulfillment - and our inheritance, to accept, embrace and share beyond all manmade boundaries. Using The Bat! 5.0.12.3 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 build 7601 Service Pack 1ÿþv 5 . 0 . 1 2 . 3 ( B E T A ) B O B - P C / B o b 5 / 1 4 / 2 0 1 1 2 : 3 8 : 2 4 P M . 2 1 3 < d e b u g > : - - - S t a r t - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - v 5 . 0 . 1 2 . 3 ( B E T A ) B O B - P C / B o b 5 / 1 4 / 2 0 1 1 2 : 3 8 : 2 4 P M . 2 4 4 < d e b u g > : S t a r t C l i e n t I n t e r f a c e v 5 . 0 . 1 2 . 3 ( B E T A ) B O B - P C / B o b 5 / 1 4 / 2 0 1 1 2 : 3 8 : 2 4 P M . 2 4 4 < d e b u g > : S e t I g n o r e E x c e p t i o n s v 5 . 0 . 1 2 . 3 ( B E T A ) B O B - P C / B o b 5 / 1 4 / 2 0 1 1 2 : 3 8 : 2 4 P M . 2 5 9 < d e b u g > : C h e c k T h e B a t C o m m a n d L i n e O p t i o n s v 5 . 0 . 1 2 . 3 ( B E T A ) B O B - P C / B o b 5 / 1 4 / 2 0 1 1 2 : 3 8 : 2 4 P M . 2 5 9 < d e b u g > : C o I n i t i a l i z e v 5 . 0 . 1 2 . 3 ( B E T A ) B O B - P C / B o b 5 / 1 4 / 2 0 1 1 2 : 3 8 : 2 4 P M . 2 5 9 < d e b u g > : D e f a u l t A p p H o o k e r . C r e a t e v 5 . 0 . 1 2 . 3 ( B E T A ) B O B - P C / B o b 5 / 1 4 / 2 0 1 1 2 : 3 8 : 2 4 P M . 2 5 9 < d e b u g > : A p p H o o k e r . R e g i s t e r P o p S t o r e H o o k v 5 . 0 . 1 2 . 3 ( B E T A ) B O B - P C / B o b 5 / 1 4 / 2 0 1 1 2 : 3 8 : 2 4 P M . 2 5 9 < d e b u g > : S e t D e f a u l t P r o g r a m s H a n d l e r v 5 . 0 . 1 2 . 3 ( B E T A ) B O B - P C / B o b 5 / 1 4 / 2 0 1 1 2 : 3 8 : 2 4 P M . 2 5 9 < d e b u g > : C h e c k T h e B a t C o m m a n d L i n e A c t i o n s v 5 . 0 . 1 2 . 3 ( B E T A ) B O B - P C / B o b 5 / 1 4 / 2 0 1 1 2 : 3 8 : 2 4 P M . 2 5 9 < d e b u g > : C h e c k E x i s t i n g T h e B a t M u t e x v 5 . 0 . 1 2 . 3 ( B E T A ) B O B - P C / B o b 5 / 1 4 / 2 0 1 1 2 : 3 8 : 2 4 P M . 2 5 9 < d e b u g > : C r e a t e C m d L i n e P i p e v 5 . 0 . 1 2 . 3 ( B E T A ) B O B - P C / B o b 5 / 1 4 / 2 0 1 1 2 : 3 8 : 2 4 P M . 2 5 9 < d e b u g > : A p p l i c a t i o n . I n i t i a l i z e v 5 . 0 . 1 2 . 3 ( B E T A ) B O B - P C / B o b 5 / 1 4 / 2 0 1 1 2 : 3 8 : 2 4 P M . 2 5 9 < d e b u g > : I n i t U t i l s v 5 . 0 . 1 2 . 3 ( B E T A ) B O B - P C / B o b 5 / 1 4 / 2 0 1 1 2 : 3 8 : 2 4 P M . 2 5 9 < d e b u g > : I n i t i a l i z e G R 3 2 v 5 . 0 . 1 2 . 3 ( B E T A ) B O B - P C / B o b 5 / 1 4 / 2 0 1 1 2 : 3 8 : 2 4 P M . 2 5 9 < d e b u g > : I n i t i a l i z e G R _ I n t e r f a c e v 5 . 0 . 1 2 . 3 ( B E T A ) B O B - P C / B o b 5 / 1 4 / 2 0 1 1 2 : 3 8 : 2 4 P M . 2 5 9 < d e b u g > : I n i t i a l i z e B i t m a p 3 2 I m a g e L i s t v 5 . 0 . 1 2 . 3 ( B E T A ) B O B - P C / B o b 5 / 1 4 / 2 0 1 1 2 : 3 8 : 2 4 P M . 2 5 9 < d e b u g > : I n i t i a l i z e R e g E x t v 5 . 0 . 1 2 . 3 ( B E T A ) B O B - P C / B o b 5 / 1 4 / 2 0 1 1 2 : 3 8 : 2 4 P M . 2 5 9 < d e b u g > : I n i t i a l i z e M a i l C h e c k e r s v 5 . 0 . 1 2 . 3 ( B E T A ) B O B - P C / B o b 5 / 1 4 / 2 0 1 1 2 : 3 8 : 2 4 P M . 2 5 9 < d e b u g > : I n i t T b x T h e m e s v 5
Re: 5.0.12.3
Hi Maxim, >> File names for both e-mail clients are as follows: >> TB: CCL_2011-253-71450_FELFRTM00019002_FREDERIK 07-05-2011.PDF >> TB!: 2011.PDF > We can replace slash character to minus characters too. Do you think we > should do that? Thank you for reconsidering. If there is no possibility to implement at the moment Replacement Option we wrote about it would be appreciated as well. However, you may consider scanning a string and put '-' between digits and '_' between words and words_digits. -- Best regards, RS ____ Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Hello Maxim, Friday, May 13, 2011, 1:53:32 PM, you wrote: > The Bat! 5.0.12.3 (BETA) is available at > http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb50123.rar I found myself having to go bck to 5.0.12.2 due to: a) error message in the plan text error when trying to send messages b) it appears there is some going on with memory given when I close the program, alerts are sounding. I suspect this being addressed given the feedback on the list. I look forward to an update in 12.4. Jerry -- Ethan J Mings President, The Desk Consulting Group Inc Oakville, Ontario Canada. L6L 3B7 Write to me at: qualityoff...@consultant.com Skype me at : ejmings Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Hello RS, Saturday, May 14, 2011, 11:29:15 AM, you wrote: > File names for both e-mail clients are as follows: > TB: CCL_2011-253-71450_FELFRTM00019002_FREDERIK 07-05-2011.PDF > TB!: 2011.PDF We can replace slash character to minus characters too. Do you think we should do that? -- Best regards, Maximmailto:m...@ritlabs.com Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3 U & R
Hello Maxim, Saturday, May 14, 2011, 12:11:19 AM, you wrote: > I don't know, but we can try to figure it out. Just open Windows Explorer (right mouse button on the "Start" button and select "Open Windows Explorer" and in the path line type %EMAIL% and you will get to the folder where The Bat! keeps its files. %EMAIL% or %APPDATA% are environment variables that store actual path in them. Good think is that Windows Exploerer accepts environment variables in the path location, it expands those variables to the physical path where the files are stored. -- Best regards, Maximmailto:m...@ritlabs.com ____ Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
On Saturday, May 14, 2011, 11:48:45 AM, Jernej Simončič wrote: > Except if you change this behaviour, you'll next have somebody > complain because TB now sticks useless garbage in front of the > attachment name. well, yes (sigh). if we didn't make someone complain here, would we be doing anything? :) -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.0.12.3 (BETA) on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) ____ Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Dear Jernej, > Except if you change this behaviour, you'll next have somebody > complain because TB now sticks useless garbage in front of the > attachment name. So the idea of leaving file names as they are should be given up - to not get garbage file names. And if there is an option (as already proposed) it would be your decision what you want to have in a file name. In that way if you like the behaviour you have now you could ignore the option. -- Best regards, RS Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
On Saturday, May 14, 2011, 17:17:49, Dwight Corrin wrote: > I think we are trying to make theBat! work the best it can in the real > world for real world users, not become beta testers for other unknown > software. Except if you change this behaviour, you'll next have somebody complain because TB now sticks useless garbage in front of the attachment name. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< http://eternallybored.org/ > [ The Bat! 5.0.12.2 on Windows 7 6.1.7601.Service Pack 1 ] You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on. -- Dean Martin's Definition of Drunkenness ____ Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Hello RS, Saturday, May 14, 2011, 4:51:07 PM, you wrote: > Dear Mark, [snip] > Defining replacement characters would be a nice feature to be > implemented. Absolutely, as I said above. > IMO ThunderBird's behaviour is more proper here :) > In TB! it's possible to retype a whole name while saving but > why to do that manually if there are computers to do borring part :) > // especially if it's a compliacted or long file name to be retyped Which is why I said an option to either "auto-replace" illegal characters with something a user chooses, or give them a box to let them choose would be best. > I would be very unhappy if I get an e-mail from a Chinese guy with a > file name in Chinese and I would have to retype it. > I would be blessing you guys for half of the day :) I wouldn't understand a filename in Chinese (or Cyrillic characters) either come to think of it. Then it might as well say just "file1.pdf" so I could open it, read it and then rename it myself to something more appropriate. > I am sharing an idea with you to make TB! a better product. And I agree with and second your idea. As others have said above the behaviour of Thunderbird is a useful one to mimic replacing illegal filename characters with _ or - as appropriate but I think which to use should be a choice. I am surprised though that some software produces attachments with a combination of filenames that Windows can't recognise (i.e. / # and so on). -- Best regards, Markmailto:m...@lingidiom.com Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Dear Dwight, > I think we are trying to make theBat! work the best it can in the real > world for real world users, not become beta testers for other unknown > software. Exactly :) It will be the moment when I will start using the license of my v5 :) -- Best regards, RS Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Dear Thomas, > If you mean you want to make a poll, my vote is to duplicate the > Thunderbird behaviour. Thank you. > Just only "2011.pdf" might not have any meaning. FWIW, CutePDF uses > the same logic as Thunderbird. I'm sure many other softwares do. If something is implemented in improper way and can be done better it should be changed :) When TB! was created long time ago, it wasn't created because there was no other solutions available but to deliver a client as much usefull as possible :) Hope it's still valid and TB! developers are people that are open to the idea how to make TB! better and more usefull :) Why to ask about some feedback on TBBETA? Because it's rather obvious that we're not a random bunch of people and we're willing to help (and we're helping) :) -- Best regards, RS ____ Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Dear Jernej, > If you don't like this behaviour, the bug should be filled with the > application which produces such e-mails. I don't see any harm in helping user to get fixed a problem caused by other application, do you? Taking into consideration that such part of code is not something sofisticated and is quite easy to be implemented it's rather desirable to help user to correct the problem instead telling him call the other guy we can't do nothing -- Best regards, RS Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Dear Mark, >> Why not to inform user about violation and let him decide if he wants >> a file name made by TB! or he wants to modify it by himself? > I think the easiest solution to this is to have a configurable option > in the preferences whereby a user can choose to use a standard scheme > (e.g. replace all illegal filename characters with one of their > choosing), or opt to have a choice in a pop-up dialog should a > conversion error be detected. This way we include both camps: the user > who doesn't really care about the filename so long as it's saved > quickly; and those that would like to take the time to manually adjust > it when saving an attachment. > Either way you look at it though simply discarding all but the last > portion of a filename and adding the extension is just plain wrong. Defining replacement characters would be a nice feature to be implemented. IMO ThunderBird's behaviour is more proper here :) In TB! it's possible to retype a whole name while saving but why to do that manually if there are computers to do borring part :) // especially if it's a compliacted or long file name to be retyped I would be very unhappy if I get an e-mail from a Chinese guy with a file name in Chinese and I would have to retype it. I would be blessing you guys for half of the day :) I am sharing an idea with you to make TB! a better product. -- Best regards, RS ____ Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
On Saturday, May 14, 2011, 9:47:51 AM, Jernej Simončič wrote: > If you don't like this behaviour, the bug should be filled with the > application which produces such e-mails. I think we are trying to make theBat! work the best it can in the real world for real world users, not become beta testers for other unknown software. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.0.12.3 (BETA) on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Hello RS, On Sat, 14 May 2011 16:29:15 +0800 GMT (14/May/11, 15:29 PM +0700 GMT), RS wrote: R> Just for reference. R> I checked Thunderbird behaviour. R> File names for both e-mail clients are as follows: R> TB: CCL_2011-253-71450_FELFRTM00019002_FREDERIK 07-05-2011.PDF R> TB!: 2011.PDF R> As you can see, TB automatically converts unallowed characters R> (and user is shown a name to be saved so he can still modify it) but R> what's more important it's not dumping any important information of R> your clients as TB! does. R> Maybe we should ask TBBETA members about their opinion on that R> matter? If you mean you want to make a poll, my vote is to duplicate the Thunderbird behaviour. Just only "2011.pdf" might not have any meaning. FWIW, CutePDF uses the same logic as Thunderbird. I'm sure many other softwares do. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.44 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
On Saturday, May 14, 2011, 10:14:23, RS wrote: > What I do not like in your approach is that you just move from the > end to the first slash and save what gets out: in that case 2011.pdf. While I'd agree with this if TB cut off parts of the filename before every disallowed character, IMHO cutting everything up to (including) the final (back)slash is acceptable. Practically all modern operating systems recognize slash as a path delimiter (yes, this includes Windows, even though it more commonly uses backslashes), and I'd argue it's the only correct way to handle an attachment with such filename. If you don't like this behaviour, the bug should be filled with the application which produces such e-mails. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< http://eternallybored.org/ > [ The Bat! 5.0.12.2 on Windows 7 6.1.7601.Service Pack 1 ] If people listened to themselves more often, they'd talk less. -- Courtois's Rule ____ Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Hello RS & Maxim, Saturday, May 14, 2011, 9:14:23 AM, you wrote: > Hi Maxim, > Saturday, May 14, 2011, 5:07:06 AM, you wrote: [snip] Maxim >> The Bat! takes slash characters as path delimiters and cuts Maxim >> everything up to the last slash, and we aren't going to change Maxim >> that. Maxim >> Or, if you think we should change that, please let us know. I second this suggestion - this is definitely not intuitive or sensible behaviour for a mature email client. > AsIwrote in my post '/' character is not allowed by OS and > it's obvious that you need to do something with that. File names with > OS reserved characters are rather not happen too often. > What I do not like in your approach is that you just move from the > end to the first slash and save what gets out: in that case 2011.pdf. Again, agreed. > However, I still think that above solution is improper: > - if user doesn't have a knowledge that part of information had been > removed from file name (there is no feedback from TB! that it's > dumping part of data), > - if he doesn't open a folder right after saving a file, > he wouldn't know what TB! did ; in some cases it might be a long > before user opens a folder if files are saved just for future > reference or extracted with filter. > If for example, in your solution: > - the last part is date and time (ex: 20110508_1732.pdf), > - there is a lot of e-mails with strange attachment file name, > - user saves them for future reference with filter or manually, > User may end up with hundreds or thousands of files that are mixed and > without slimest chance to determine what's in the file. > IMO, proper approach would be a pop-up window showing information that > characters used in the file name are improper and file name is planned > to be converted to the NAME (present your customer a name in Bold) > so he can see it clearly and knows what he's doing. User should be > given as well an improper name in editable cell so he can modify it > if he feels that name chosen by TB! is not proper. > Why not to inform user about violation and let him decide if he wants > a file name made by TB! or he wants to modify it by himself? I think the easiest solution to this is to have a configurable option in the preferences whereby a user can choose to use a standard scheme (e.g. replace all illegal filename characters with one of their choosing), or opt to have a choice in a pop-up dialog should a conversion error be detected. This way we include both camps: the user who doesn't really care about the filename so long as it's saved quickly; and those that would like to take the time to manually adjust it when saving an attachment. Either way you look at it though simply discarding all but the last portion of a filename and adding the extension is just plain wrong. -- Best regards, Markmailto:m...@lingidiom.com Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Another release and still no fixes for virtual folders counts, daily hangs and broken filters Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems that v5 finally has much better IMAP support. IMAP seems to be working for me now better then it did in v3 or 4. So, since IMAP was virtually broke in v3 and v4, and now we have virtual folders, filters and daily hang issues, does that mean, given the past history of IMAP, that we will have to wait for v8 before filters and virtual folders are working correctly... I mean IMAP was not really fixed till v5, so my only conclusion is that all the issues listed above will not be fixed till version 8. Simple math :) Ritlabs, prove me wrong. Fix virtual folders, daily hangs and filter issues before release 6... -- Best regards, Joe 5.0.12.2 Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Hello Maxim, Friday, May 13, 2011, 6:53:32 PM, you wrote: > The Bat! 5.0.12.3 (BETA) is available at > http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb50123.rar > [-] (#0008665) Virtual folders could not be edited Fixed. Thank you. However, after editing virtual folder filter condition, virtual folder is not updated. (old bug) -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.12.3 (BETA) Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Hello Darzur, Saturday, May 14, 2011, 12:04:54 AM, you wrote: > Does coloring by filters finally work with IMAP? Sometimes, but not always. It is the same with most of the filters. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Hello Maxim, Friday, May 13, 2011, 1:53:32 PM, you wrote: > The Bat! 5.0.12.3 (BETA) is available at > http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb50123.rar It installed. Jerry -- Ethan J Mings President, The Desk Consulting Group Inc Oakville, Ontario Canada. L6L 3B7 Write to me at: qualityoff...@consultant.com Skype me at : ejmings Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3 U & R
Hello Bob, > Windows 7 leads to a significant delay in starting. This has been > true for a month or more. Could this be related to my using > Kaspersky, I wonder? I don't know. Kaspersky does a complete scan of the new binary upon first run. After the first run, it just does a checksum which is much faster. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.12.2 Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Hi Maxim, >> Still wrong file name - check message source, it starts from CCL_2011 >> not 2011 only (saved as 2011.pdf). > It's not wrong, it was: > "CCL_2011/253/71450_FELFRTM00019002_FREDERIK 07/05/2011.pdf" > The Bat! takes slash characters as path delimiters and cuts everything up to > the last slash, and we aren't going to change that. > Or, if you think we should change that, please let us know. Just for reference. I checked Thunderbird behaviour. File names for both e-mail clients are as follows: TB: CCL_2011-253-71450_FELFRTM00019002_FREDERIK 07-05-2011.PDF TB!: 2011.PDF As you can see, TB automatically converts unallowed characters (and user is shown a name to be saved so he can still modify it) but what's more important it's not dumping any important information of your clients as TB! does. Maybe we should ask TBBETA members about their opinion on that matter? -- Best regards, RS ____ Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Hi Maxim, Saturday, May 14, 2011, 5:07:06 AM, you wrote: RS >> Still wrong file name - check message source, it starts from RS >> CCL_2011 not 2011 only (saved as 2011.pdf). Maxim > It's not wrong, it was: Maxim > "CCL_2011/253/71450_FELFRTM00019002_FREDERIK 07/05/2011.pdf" Maxim > The Bat! takes slash characters as path delimiters and cuts Maxim > everything up to the last slash, and we aren't going to change Maxim > that. Maxim > Or, if you think we should change that, please let us know. AsIwrote in my post '/' character is not allowed by OS and it's obvious that you need to do something with that. File names with OS reserved characters are rather not happen too often. What I do not like in your approach is that you just move from the end to the first slash and save what gets out: in that case 2011.pdf. Mostly the most important information describing the file is rather at the beginning of the file than at the end. If a current solution of just getting rid of a part of important information is to be used IMO it should be modified: - scanning for file name from the beginning (A): CCL_2011 //cut here - scanning for file extention (B): .pdf However, I still think that above solution is improper: - if user doesn't have a knowledge that part of information had been removed from file name (there is no feedback from TB! that it's dumping part of data), - if he doesn't open a folder right after saving a file, he wouldn't know what TB! did ; in some cases it might be a long before user opens a folder if files are saved just for future reference or extracted with filter. If for example, in your solution: - the last part is date and time (ex: 20110508_1732.pdf), - there is a lot of e-mails with strange attachment file name, - user saves them for future reference with filter or manually, User may end up with hundreds or thousands of files that are mixed and without slimest chance to determine what's in the file. IMO, proper approach would be a pop-up window showing information that characters used in the file name are improper and file name is planned to be converted to the NAME (present your customer a name in Bold) so he can see it clearly and knows what he's doing. User should be given as well an improper name in editable cell so he can modify it if he feels that name chosen by TB! is not proper. Why not to inform user about violation and let him decide if he wants a file name made by TB! or he wants to modify it by himself? -- Best regards, RS Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Dear Maxim, @13-May-2011, 20:53 +0300 (13-May 18:53 here) Maxim Masiutin [MM] in mid:87641028.20110513205...@ritlabs.com said: MM> The Bat! 5.0.12.3 (BETA) is available at MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb50123.rar ... MM> [-] IMAP. Folder with national characters in name cannot be MM> used as system folder (Outbox, Sent, ...) !5/14/2011, 00:54:47: IMAP - Could not create a new index of a message base Could not rename the file %WDIR%\Marck IMAP\IMAP\52826C No improvement here - how can I find out which folder this is to re-subscribe or unhook somehow? This log entry is complete - the end is cut off because of the NULLs in the name. -- Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v5.0.12.3 (BETA) on Windows 7 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 ' pgpBW5vdY4VTu.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3 U & R
Hi Mark, Friday, May 13, 2011, 5:47:36 PM, you wrote: [snip] MH> Hi Bob, MH> %APPDATA% is a Windows way to refer to the folder in your user profile MH> which (in different Windows versions) is either: MH> "C:\Users\\AppData" in Windows Vista / 7 MH> "C:\Documents and Settings\\Application Data" in prior MH> releases (such as XP). MH> I suspect that %EMAIL% relates to the folder where your email is MH> either downloading (POP3) or caching (IMAP4). MH> So to clarify, the instructions seem to be asking you to look in one MH> of those above folders for a log file which you first need to clean MH> out of the way before running TheBat.exe with /STARTUP_TIMING_LOG MH> appended to the command line (probably from Start -> Run). MH> I'd strongly suggest simply renaming the existing files when you find MH> them (two: one in %EMAIL% and the other in %APPDATA%). Then when you MH> add the switch to put the timing in the log the log itself will be MH> empty to start out with. MH> Hope that helps clarify things somewhat. It did! FYI, here is the message I just sent to Maxim (to his address, not the list): * Hi Maxim, Friday, May 13, 2011, 3:11:19 PM, you wrote: [snip] MM> I don't know, but we can try to figure it out. MM> Could you please run thebat.exe with the /STARTUP_TIMING_LOG command line MM> parameter and send me two ex_log.txt files, one from %APPDATA%, another from MM> %EMAIL%. Please delete or backup and remove those files prior to running The MM> Bat! with /STARTUP_TIMING_LOG. I only found ONE ex_log.txt file on my pc (using Windows 7 search). It was here: G:\My Documents\The Bat\ I renamed the original ex_log.txt file temporarily while I ran TB with the command line you gave me above. The new ex_log.txt generated is attached. As I mentioned, the slow startup disappeared the next time I ran TB, and every time since. I think the delay probably occurs whenever I run a new thebat.exe the first time after an update, including a new .msi file. Thus I don't know if you will learn anything from this attached file. Please let me know if you want me to run a re-test after an update! I could send it in an .rar archive instead, so please let me if that would be better. Have a great work week (hopefully, you can take Sunday off to rest!). * Thanks for your help, Mark! -- Take Care, Bob -- "Let there be peace on earth, and let it begin with me." This is our function, our challenge, our fulfillment - and our inheritance, to accept, embrace and share beyond all manmade boundaries. Using The Bat! 5.0.12.3 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
On Fri, 13 May 2011 20:53:32 +0300, Maxim Masiutin says... > The Bat! 5.0.12.3 (BETA) is available at > http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb50123.rar > > Hello, Does coloring by filters finally work with IMAP? -- br, Zurek Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Hello Maxim, Friday, May 13, 2011, 7:53:32 PM, among other things, you wrote: MM> The Bat! 5.0.12.3 (BETA) is available at MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb50123.rar I now find that TB does not expand threads. Any confirmation? -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: The Bat! v5.0.12.3 (BETA) POP3, on Windows 7, version 6 1, build 7601 and Service Pack 1 Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3 U & R
On Friday, May 13, 2011, 11:02:48 PM, you wrote: > Hi Maxim, > Friday, May 13, 2011, 3:11:19 PM, you wrote: MM>> Hello Bob, MM>> Friday, May 13, 2011, 9:50:34 PM, you wrote: >>> except for the fact that clicking on TB's shortcut in the start menu of >>> Windows 7 leads to a significant delay in starting. This has been true for >>> a month or more. Could this be related to my using Kaspersky, I wonder? I >>> don't know. MM>> I don't know, but we can try to figure it out. MM>> Could you please run thebat.exe with the /STARTUP_TIMING_LOG command line MM>> parameter and send me two ex_log.txt files, one from %APPDATA%, another from MM>> %EMAIL%. Please delete or backup and remove those files prior to running The MM>> Bat! with /STARTUP_TIMING_LOG. [snip] > Now, about your instructions - I only found one ex_log.txt file using > Windows 7 search - it was in My Documents\The Bat\ > I couldn't find anything in that log.txt called %APPDATA% nor could I > find a folder called %APPDATE% anywhere. Same thing is true for > %EMAIL%. Then, you told me to remove those files prior to running TH > with the command line above. I hesitate to remove the entire > ex_log.txt file (withour your directions) - it has entries going back > to February 17, 2011 (TB version 5.0.0.140 BETA). > I am sorry to appear a tech misfit (!!!) but I need your help here. > Bob Hi Bob, %APPDATA% is a Windows way to refer to the folder in your user profile which (in different Windows versions) is either: "C:\Users\\AppData" in Windows Vista / 7 "C:\Documents and Settings\\Application Data" in prior releases (such as XP). I suspect that %EMAIL% relates to the folder where your email is either downloading (POP3) or caching (IMAP4). So to clarify, the instructions seem to be asking you to look in one of those above folders for a log file which you first need to clean out of the way before running TheBat.exe with /STARTUP_TIMING_LOG appended to the command line (probably from Start -> Run). I'd strongly suggest simply renaming the existing files when you find them (two: one in %EMAIL% and the other in %APPDATA%). Then when you add the switch to put the timing in the log the log itself will be empty to start out with. Hope that helps clarify things somewhat. -- Best regards, Markmailto:mark.hom...@lingidiom.com Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3 U & R
Hi Maxim, Friday, May 13, 2011, 3:11:19 PM, you wrote: MM> Hello Bob, MM> Friday, May 13, 2011, 9:50:34 PM, you wrote: >> except for the fact that clicking on TB's shortcut in the start menu of >> Windows 7 leads to a significant delay in starting. This has been true for >> a month or more. Could this be related to my using Kaspersky, I wonder? I >> don't know. MM> I don't know, but we can try to figure it out. MM> Could you please run thebat.exe with the /STARTUP_TIMING_LOG command line MM> parameter and send me two ex_log.txt files, one from %APPDATA%, another from MM> %EMAIL%. Please delete or backup and remove those files prior to running The MM> Bat! with /STARTUP_TIMING_LOG. Before I respond to your instructions, I want to say that I couldn't replicate the slow start. TB starts very quickly now! It may be that the slow start ONLY occurs after a change in the .msi or thebat.exe - I will monitor that. Now, about your instructions - I only found one ex_log.txt file using Windows 7 search - it was in My Documents\The Bat\ I couldn't find anything in that log.txt called %APPDATA% nor could I find a folder called %APPDATE% anywhere. Same thing is true for %EMAIL%. Then, you told me to remove those files prior to running TH with the command line above. I hesitate to remove the entire ex_log.txt file (withour your directions) - it has entries going back to February 17, 2011 (TB version 5.0.0.140 BETA). I am sorry to appear a tech misfit (!!!) but I need your help here. Bob -- Take Care, Bob -- "Let there be peace on earth, and let it begin with me." This is our function, our challenge, our fulfillment - and our inheritance, to accept, embrace and share beyond all manmade boundaries. Using The Bat! 5.0.12.3 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 build 7601 Service Pack 1 ____ Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3 U & R
Hello Bob, Friday, May 13, 2011, 9:50:34 PM, you wrote: > except for the fact that clicking on TB's shortcut in the start menu of > Windows 7 leads to a significant delay in starting. This has been true for > a month or more. Could this be related to my using Kaspersky, I wonder? I > don't know. I don't know, but we can try to figure it out. Could you please run thebat.exe with the /STARTUP_TIMING_LOG command line parameter and send me two ex_log.txt files, one from %APPDATA%, another from %EMAIL%. Please delete or backup and remove those files prior to running The Bat! with /STARTUP_TIMING_LOG. -- Best regards, Maximmailto:m...@ritlabs.com ____ Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Hello RS, Friday, May 13, 2011, 9:27:52 PM, you wrote: > Still wrong file name - check message source, it starts from CCL_2011 > not 2011 only (saved as 2011.pdf). It's not wrong, it was: "CCL_2011/253/71450_FELFRTM00019002_FREDERIK 07/05/2011.pdf" The Bat! takes slash characters as path delimiters and cuts everything up to the last slash, and we aren't going to change that. Or, if you think we should change that, please let us know. -- Best regards, Maximmailto:m...@ritlabs.com Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Hi Martin, Friday, May 13, 2011, 7:42:02 PM, you wrote: > Hi Doug > On Friday, May 13, 2011 8:33:22 PM you wrote: >> Why didn't I see any message? > Because it is empty? That would be a good reason. It had 4 tiny attachments. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 4.2.44.2 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Hello RS, >> Preferences, Viewer/Editor, Viewer/Editor Profiles: The context menu >> entry "Copy" does not produce a copy of an existing profile. In fact >> "Copy" acts exactly like "Add", i.e. a new profile with empty >> checkboxes is created. >> Confirmations? > Confirmed, not copying but works same as Add. > (w7 x64 5.0.12.3) Thank you, RS. I filed a report here: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8712 Best regards, mse -- Using The Bat! v5.0.12.3 (BETA) with German language file [4.2.x_de – Rev. 2010-02-01] Operating system: Windows XP 5.1.2600 with Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3 - Plain Text (Windows) Switching
> Just found a bug ; while replaying to your HTML message when I > selected Plain Text (Windows) a message you wrote had vanished. > > Replaying at the moment in Plain Text (MicroEd). > > After typing a text in MicroEd and switching to any mode message > becomes empty. REPLYING to a plain text message brings up a blank email. It seems to be ok with HTML. This is a show stopper ____ Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Hi mse, > while checking issue #8692 I came upon something else: > Preferences, Viewer/Editor, Viewer/Editor Profiles: The context menu > entry "Copy" does not produce a copy of an existing profile. In fact > "Copy" acts exactly like "Add", i.e. a new profile with empty > checkboxes is created. > Confirmations? Confirmed, not copying but works same as Add. (w7 x64 5.0.12.3) -- Best regards, RS ____ Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Hello Maxim, while checking issue #8692 I came upon something else: Preferences, Viewer/Editor, Viewer/Editor Profiles: The context menu entry "Copy" does not produce a copy of an existing profile. In fact "Copy" acts exactly like "Add", i.e. a new profile with empty checkboxes is created. Confirmations? Best regards, mse -- Using The Bat! v5.0.12.3 (BETA) with German language file [4.2.x_de – Rev. 2010-02-01] Operating system: Windows XP 5.1.2600 with Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3 - Plain Text (Windows) Switching
Hi mse, >> Replying to any message (not only HTML) and switching to Plain Text >> (windows) makes the message vanished. > Confirmed. >> If PT (Windows) is not selected you can type and it's still there >> while switching if you select it and type in other mode and select to >> any other mode editor is empty. >> Must be that I accedently switched to Vanish mode just before sending >> it out. >> Confirmations? > As long as you don't change anything in the text, you can switch > between any editor mode; switch to PT (Windows): Text is gone, switch > to PT (MicroEd): Text comes back. Thank you for confirmation. Reported: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8711 -- Best regards, RS Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3 - Plain Text (Windows) Switching
Hello RS, > Replying to any message (not only HTML) and switching to Plain Text > (windows) makes the message vanished. Confirmed. > If PT (Windows) is not selected you can type and it's still there > while switching if you select it and type in other mode and select to > any other mode editor is empty. > Must be that I accedently switched to Vanish mode just before sending > it out. > Confirmations? As long as you don't change anything in the text, you can switch between any editor mode; switch to PT (Windows): Text is gone, switch to PT (MicroEd): Text comes back. Best regards, mse -- Using The Bat! v5.0.12.3 (BETA) with German language file [4.2.x_de – Rev. 2010-02-01] Operating system: Windows XP 5.1.2600 with Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3 - Plain Text (Windows) Switching
Hi, Replying to any message (not only HTML) and switching to Plain Text (windows) makes the message vanished. If PT (Windows) is not selected you can type and it's still there while switching if you select it and type in other mode and select to any other mode editor is empty. Must be that I accedently switched to Vanish mode just before sending it out. Confirmations? -- Best regards, RS Saturday, May 14, 2011, 2:48:53 AM, you wrote: > Hi Doug, > Just found a bug ; while replaying to your HTML message when I > selected Plain Text (Windows) a message you wrote had vanished. > Replaying at the moment in Plain Text (MicroEd). > After typing a text in MicroEd and switching to any mode message > becomes empty. ____ Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3 U & R
Hi Maxim, Friday, May 13, 2011, 11:53:32 AM, you wrote: MM> The Bat! 5.0.12.3 (BETA) is available at MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb50123.rar MM> What's new in 5.0.12.3 since 5.0.12.2: MM> [-] (#0008665) Virtual folders could not be edited MM> [-] Quick Template was passed incorrectly when used with the "Reply using Template" command. MM> [-] IMAP. Folder with national characters in name cannot be used MM> as system folder (Outbox, Sent, ...) MM> [-] Some exceptions must not appear in exception log MM> [-] (#0008704) Problem with opening of the files containing incorrect characters Up and running. All functions I use seem to be going well, except for the fact that clicking on TB's shortcut in the start menu of Windows 7 leads to a significant delay in starting. This has been true for a month or more. Could this be related to my using Kaspersky, I wonder? I don't know. Gmail's IMAP continues to function very well for me in the TB 5.x series. -- Take Care, Bob -- "Let there be peace on earth, and let it begin with me." This is our function, our challenge, our fulfillment - and our inheritance, to accept, embrace and share beyond all manmade boundaries. Using The Bat! 5.0.12.3 (BETA) Windows 7 6.1 build 7601 Service Pack 1 ____ Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3 - Plain Text (Windows) Switching
Hi Doug, Just found a bug ; while replaying to your HTML message when I selected Plain Text (Windows) a message you wrote had vanished. Replaying at the moment in Plain Text (MicroEd). After typing a text in MicroEd and switching to any mode message becomes empty. -- Best regards, RS Saturday, May 14, 2011, 2:33:22 AM, you wrote: > Hi RS, > Friday, May 13, 2011, 7:20:44 PM, you wrote: > Why didn't I see any message? > Doug Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Hi Doug, I don't know - I wrote an answer to the post but it went out empty. I did set it up manually while sending message as Plain Text. Probably my mistake. Didn't have time to set up accounts from the beginning after I did EML import and imported folders started to get missing (reported: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8685) as well as newly created folders. Probably database got damaged somehow and that version of TB! is unusable and need to reinstall from a scratch. -- Best regards, RS Saturday, May 14, 2011, 2:33:22 AM, you wrote: > Hi RS, > Friday, May 13, 2011, 7:20:44 PM, you wrote: > Why didn't I see any message? > Doug ____ Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Hi Doug On Friday, May 13, 2011 8:33:22 PM you wrote: > Why didn't I see any message? Because it is empty? -- Best regards, Martin dagob...@yahoo.com TheBat! 5.0.12.3 (BETA) Pro (no OTFE) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Title: Re: 5.0.12.3 Hi RS, Friday, May 13, 2011, 7:20:44 PM, you wrote: Why didn't I see any message? Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 4.2.44.2 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Dear Maxim, Saturday, May 14, 2011, 1:53:32 AM, you wrote: > The Bat! 5.0.12.3 (BETA) is available at > http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb50123.rar > What's new in 5.0.12.3 since 5.0.12.2: > [-] (#0008704) Problem with opening of the files containing incorrect > characters Message opens fine. Still wrong file name - check message source, it starts from CCL_2011 not 2011 only (saved as 2011.pdf). Files with Chinese characters in the name are still not opened - added comment there (covering as well a file name mismatch) - and nothing happens while selected to be opened. -- Best regards, RS ____ Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
On Friday, May 13, 2011, 12:53:32 PM, Maxim Masiutin wrote: > The Bat! 5.0.12.3 (BETA) is available at > http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb50123.rar up and running here -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 5.0.12.3 (BETA) on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12.3
Hi there, MM> Current beta is 5.0.12.3 Betwa warning is there. Send immediately on german client w/IMAP still not working. Changing back to 4.2.44 necessary again ... Will this work some day? -- Regards Günther Fuchs Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
5.0.12.3
The Bat! 5.0.12.3 (BETA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb50123.rar What's new in 5.0.12.3 since 5.0.12.2: [-] (#0008665) Virtual folders could not be edited [-] Quick Template was passed incorrectly when used with the "Reply using Template" command. [-] IMAP. Folder with national characters in name cannot be used as system folder (Outbox, Sent, ...) [-] Some exceptions must not appear in exception log [-] (#0008704) Problem with opening of the files containing incorrect characters Current beta is 5.0.12.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
