Re: Bat 3.0 Beta 1: Bug report

2004-09-02 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Thursday, September 2, 2004, 3:50 PM, you wrote: P you can put a smiley on that, but I'm gritting my teeth :) P I'll just go eat come chocolate and calm down :) A You can eat chocolate through gritted teeth...??? ;-O I can UNclench my teeth to open my mouth to insert chocolate:) and I did

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-09-01 Thread Dave Crocker
Maxim, MM The Bat! 3.0 has taken the developers a year of work. If we weren't released The MM Bat! since 2.0 the list had been quite impressive. Buy paying for 3.0 the users MM get the whole bunch of new things that will be appear in The Bat! 3.xx in future. Unfortunately, what their money gets

Re: Bat 3.0 Beta 1: Bug report

2004-09-01 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Paul! On Wednesday, September 1, 2004 at 7:08:56 PM you wrote: and it still does it. ;( Yip, still does it. And it still is random. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request

Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-09-01 Thread Alexander Leschinsky
Hello Edvinas, On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 13:14:25 +0200 (31.08.2004 17:14 my local time), received Tuesday, August 31, 2004 at 21:58:44 +0600, you wrote about The Bat! 3.0 beta 1, at least in part: EM If you want to see really good virtual folders implementation try EM Opera's mail client

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-31 Thread Ciprian Trofin
MM XP-themes API is a very perplexing one, like MAPI and many other MM Microsoft APIs. It seemed that Microsoft is the only company that MM manage to fully utilize this API in its programs. The Bat! is an MM exception from this regularity. The Bat! looks under XP like MM Microsoft's Programs or

Re[4]: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-31 Thread Konstantin Zhilenko
Hello, Kevin, Monday, August 30, 2004, you wrote: The Bat! 3.0 has taken the developers a year of work. If we weren't released The Bat! since 2.0 the list had been quite impressive. Buy paying for 3.0 the users get the whole bunch of new things that will be appear in The Bat! 3.xx in future.

Re[3]: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-31 Thread David Prodinger
hello all! MM XP-themes API is a very perplexing one, like MAPI and many MM other Microsoft APIs. It seemed that Microsoft is the only company MM that manage to fully utilize this API in its programs. The Bat! is MM an exception from this regularity. The Bat! looks under XP like MM Microsoft's

Re: Bat 3.0 Beta 1: Bug report

2004-08-31 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Andreas, on Mon, 30 Aug 2004 21:06:48 +0200GMT you wrote: AS Hello, AS I get an access violation when clicking on Options/Preferences. AS See here: www.andreas-schwartmann.de/bat.png AS Anyone else? Not confirmed here on Win98. -- Cheers Peter The Bat!, version 3.0 Beta/1, Windows 98,

Re: Bat 3.0 Beta 1: Bug report

2004-08-31 Thread Peter Meyns
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Dierk, on Mon, 30 Aug 2004 22:53:22 +0200GMT you wrote: DH What drives me crazy is that sometimes TB changes my kezboard lazout DH from German to US. I have to close TB and reopen it. DH Just hit me with this message. I had this happen on my old

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-31 Thread M i c C u l l e n
On Tuesday, August 31, 2004 @ 10:01:25 PM, MAU wrote: [snips] Maxim - chat virtual folders for watching conversation threads or Maxim waiting for replies to specific messages; Can't we get all the email bits to work properly before this ridiculous stuff? MAU I don't agree. The only

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-31 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ! Tuesday, August 31, 2004, 11:16, Roland Burger wrote: As well as UNICODE was promised for version 2!!! I already said that... ;) -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | aesir media http://www.aesir.de/ [The Bat! v2.12.03 (without BayesIt) PopFile on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4]

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-31 Thread Doug Weller
Hi Mau, Tuesday, August 31, 2004, 3:25:10 PM, you wrote: M On Tuesday, August 31, 2004 @ 10:01:25 PM, MAU wrote: M [snips] Maxim - chat virtual folders for watching conversation threads or Maxim waiting for replies to specific messages; Can't we get all the email bits to work properly

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-31 Thread JARDAY
Roland Burger wrote: RvdH Some of us have been waiting for a full working IMAP version for a long RvdH time. Remember: it was promised for 2.0 (including Newsgroup support as RvdH well, if I remember correctly). yes, it was promised. As well as UNICODE was promised for version 2!!! There were a

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-31 Thread Doug Weller
Hi MAU, Tuesday, August 31, 2004, 8:09:55 PM, you wrote: MAU Hello Doug, Does anyone know if there a quick guide on how to use these as a Watch feature for mailing lists? MAU OK, here is what I did to set up a Watch for TBBeta. Thanks, that was easy once you made it so clear! Now any

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-31 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Charles! On Tuesday, August 31, 2004 at 10:07:30 PM you wrote: Oh, nice and polite. Neither. It's sensible. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request A great truth

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-31 Thread Doug Weller
Hi Dierk, Tuesday, August 31, 2004, 8:03:06 PM, you wrote: [SNIP] Dierk Trillian and Opera (more or less) use the Dierk One-Year-Subscription, most take the Major-Upgrade-Route. I think Opera 7.0 was a major change from 6, and 7.5 a pretty good upgrade. And of course there's a free version, so

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-31 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Jurgen! On Wednesday, September 1, 2004 at 7:12:36 AM you wrote: You by a license and it's good for the version being out at that time PLUS (now Ritlabs watch this): the next MAJOR version. Since 4.x the license is good for one major version, and the version numbering system - although

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-31 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Jan! On Wednesday, September 1, 2004 at 3:56:22 AM you wrote: Please explain something to me. Except for new fancy glyphs, what are the exact changes between beta/8 with MSI v3 with MSI installation? I'd say they fixed the uninstall/reinstall problem in the MSI. -- Dierk

Re[2]: Bat 3.0 Beta 1: Bug report

2004-08-30 Thread Marek Mikus
Using the best The Bat! 3.0 Beta/1 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 2.13 Beta/8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat

Re: Bat 3.0 Beta 1: Bug report

2004-08-30 Thread 9Val
Hello Andreas, AS Anyone else? Confirmed for all who doesn't use mail ticker -- 9Val Current beta is 2.13 Beta/8 | 'Using TBBETA' information:

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread 9Val
Hello Tim, TC This totally screwed up my whole program I have half Icons, TC and now I cant get back to the previous Beta. Don't use custom glyphs.bmp. Just rename it to something like glyphs.bmp.old and try again -- 9Val

Re: Bat 3.0 Beta 1: Bug report

2004-08-30 Thread Carsten Knobloch
Hello Marek! Just now (on 08/30/2004 at 21:32) you meant: I see no problems here, what You think? Any screenshots? http://www.batworld.de/privat/forenbilder/fault1.png http://www.batworld.de/privat/forenbilder/fault2.png http://www.batworld.de/privat/forenbilder/fault3.png

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ! Monday, August 30, 2004, 22:34, Peter Fjelsten wrote: Then please release a 2.x version with working IMAP. I don't need the NFS but I believe I have paid for (working) IMAP! And wasn't full UTF-support promised for 2.xx, too? ;( -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | aesir media

Re: Bat 3.0 Beta 1: Bug report

2004-08-30 Thread Marcus Ohlström
On Monday, August 30, 2004, 21:41, Carsten Knobloch wrote: http://www.batworld.de/privat/forenbilder/fault1.png Wait a second, why do you have tabs when I don't? My preference dialog looks just like it always has (see attachment). -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! 3.0 Beta/1

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Carsten Knobloch
Hello Maxim! Just now (on 08/30/2004 at 21:56) you dropped the lines: Buy paying for 3.0 the users get the whole bunch of new things that will be appear in The Bat! 3.xx in future. Mhhh, where is the whole bunch of new things from v1 to V2? I can't believe it :( -- Adios, Carsten

Re: Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Allie Martin
Kevin J. Menard, Jr. wrote: I'm sorry, but I'm finding this hard to swallow. This same message was relayed when tb! 2.0 was released, particularly with regards to IMAP support. Don't get me wrong, I know the support is there, but one only needs to scan the archives to see that most IMAP

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Monday, August 30, 2004, 4:28 PM, you wrote: MP If anything this should be version 2.2, not a leap towards MP 3.0. I feel taken advantage of having to pay for bugs to be fixed in MP 2.x that still haven't been fixed just for the NFS and a new and buggy MP GUI. Registered 2.x

New Fashion (was: Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1)

2004-08-30 Thread Torsten Veller
* Maxim Masiutin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Monday, August 30, 2004, 21:47:50, you wrote: Beta 1 of TB! 3.0? Makes me wonder if every time Ritlabs add new icons a new version is announced. But I like the new look :-) Thank you! Amongst all the improvements the most visually outstanding is the

Re: Bat 3.0 Beta 1: Bug report

2004-08-30 Thread Carsten Knobloch
Hey Marcus! Just now (on 08/30/2004 at 22:46) you commented: Wait a second, why do you have tabs when I don't? My preference dialog looks just like it always has (see attachment). Thats another feature from the whole bunch of new things. *scnr* -- Adios, Carsten www.batworld.de

Re: Bat 3.0 Beta 1: Bug report

2004-08-30 Thread Raymund Thomas Tump
Hi TBBeta, Wait a second, why do you have tabs when I don't? My preference dialog looks just like it always has (see attachment). Me, too. And there was that weird mail of 9Val saying that the error is confirmed for all who do *not* use Mailticker. -- I'm already gone, Raymund The Bat! 3.0

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Daniel, On 30-08-2004 22:34, you [DF] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: DF IIRC, TB! 3.0 doesn't have many new features which weren't DF supposed/promised to be included in 2.x or even 1.x. I paid for 2.x DF and I probably won't pay for 3.x after such a short time again. Seconded! -- greeting

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Robert van der Hulst
Hi Maxim, You are right that we've didn't completely fix IMAP up to date, but you see that IMAP is recovering, it is getting better and better, we aren't stopping it. There is a steady progress on IMAP field in the last few months. We are really going to make it perfect. I have been silent,

Re: Bat 3.0 Beta 1: Bug report

2004-08-30 Thread Dierk Haasis
with this message. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Criminal law bears the same relation to the urge for revenge as marriage does to the sexual urge. (James Stephen

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Carsten Knobloch
Hello Carsten! Just now (on 08/30/2004 at 22:46) you wrote: Mhhh, where is the whole bunch of new things from v1 to V2? EDIT: Why I must pay for things in the future? I pay for things i getting yet... -- Bye Bye, Carsten www.batworld.de www.batboard.de

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Allie, On 30-08-2004 22:42, you [AM] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: AM - the server side outbox remains a problem to work with. I had almost forgot. Not to have this working for a release series that claims IMAP functionality is ridiculous! I agree with everything you've written. Ritlabs had

Re[5]: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Peter Gannushkin
Hello Maxim, Monday, August 30, 2004, 4:27:05 PM, you wrote: You are right that we've didn't completely fix IMAP up to date, but you see that IMAP is recovering, it is getting better and better, we aren't stopping it. There is a steady progress on IMAP field in the last few months. We are

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Tim Casten
Hello Paul, On Monday, August 30, 2004 at 1:47:22 PM you wrote: I guess it wasn't lucky :) Sure it was lucky for them, we tested, we found, they not fix, and we get stuck with the bill in order to continue playing. :( -- Tim Casten,ZDC National Air Traffic Controllers Association

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Kevin Amazon
Hi Allie Martin - On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, at 15:42:41 [GMT -0500 (CDT)] (which was 1:42 PM where I live) you wrote: I'd be really upset for users if the next official release were a v3, with the last v2 released being left so buggy in fundamental ways

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Alain de Gevigney
The Bat! 3.0 Beta/1 Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.00 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread BWMarcotte
I bought The Bat! for: - it's focus on text based messages - it's ability to handle a large number of messages (100,000+) - it's speed when handling large numbers of messages My primary desires for a mail client are: - stability - speed - text interface Seconarily I want: -

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Keith Russell
MANY others have posted their thoughts, most of which I agree with. To be specific: Maxim Masiutin wrote: - completely new filtering system, easier to understand and better to manage; Maybe, but I haven't dared to use it, reading of its many problems--especially with IMAP. Is it fixed in 3.0? I'll

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Allie Martin
Peter Ouwehand, [PO] wrote: AM At least leave a version 2 that will not drive the IMAP user crazy AM while trying to simply read their mail. Allie, I do appreciate the time and effort you and other early adaptors spent on V2.yy.zz IMAP. Sure, but to be truthful, my early use of TB! IMAP was

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Jonathan Angliss
Hi Maxim, Hello Andreas, Monday, August 30, 2004, 22:02:01, you wrote: Reminds me of Mozilla and Thunderbird, though. I think the icons are to big. The new icons have to be bigger. The old size did exist from 1998, while the resolution of monitors have increased. You will be able to use

Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Gary
Hello Ian, Monday, August 30, 2004, 10:18:23 PM, you wrote: A cynic might conclude that this is just a means of charging people for an upgrade. Only a fool believes that software development costs nothing, and I am sure that The Bat! users would be more than willing to pay for a genuine

Re[3]: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Munango-Keewati
On Monday, August 30, 2004, 2:56:45 PM, Maxim Masiutin wrote: Buy paying for 3.0 the users get the whole bunch of new things that will be appear in The Bat! 3.xx in future. I'm not a beta tester, but I've very much enjoyed reading this list. I've come to look forward to the daily shenanigans

Re[3]: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Jody Watts
E-Mail Message ~~ From: Maxim Masiutin Date: Monday, August 30, 2004 at 4:34 PM Subject: Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1 _ _\/_ o/\o MM Hello Dirk, MM Monday, August 30, 2004, 0:23:41, you wrote: - A buggy IMAP

Re: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1

2004-08-30 Thread Dierk Haasis
:Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Lebe inkonsistent! (D.A. Wien) Current beta is 3.00 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http