Guten Tag, tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com,
this mail comes from Lüko Willms, who studies network mail since the early
1980ies.
am Dienstag, 24. Juli 2018 um 10:11 schrieb Max Masiutin, fraudulently
presented as "tbbeta":
> Tuesday, July 24, 2018, 10:43:36 AM, you wrote:
>> Of course, with the
On 24 July 2018 at 20:43 tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com wrote and made
these points
...
>> The X-Sender is not a useful indication as it can not be seen in
>> message list header.
...
TBB>The FROM address is meant to be the actual author of the text
TBB> being sent, or who has composed it.
Hello The,
We may need to change our salutation macros...
> The reason for the change is, as Dierk pointed out,
How do I find Dierks message(s) in message list (see attached)?
--
Who cares who I am ;-)
Current beta is 8.5.8.2 | 'Using
Guten Tag, The Bat Beta,
am Dienstag, 24. Juli 2018 um 17:14 schrieben Sie:
>>> Deliberately not signed. ;-)
>> This arrangement is, of course, exactly what spammers want. Maxim's intent
>> for this group
>> was, I suspect, to make it easier to reply without havi
Hello The,
Tuesday, July 24, 2018, 12:32:52 PM, you wrote:
> Maybe if we install Mailman 2.1.28 released Jul 23 2018 it will have options
> that we need?
Excellent point.
We could also explore an alternative service.
Jerry
--
Best regards,
Ethan
Guten Tag, The Bat Beta,
am Dienstag, 24. Juli 2018 um 17:58 schrieben Sie:
> Hello tbbeta,
> Unfortunately i loose in mailing list a the track who sent me which
> mail.
> The X-Sender is not a useful indication as it can not be seen in
> message list header.
There is no
Guten Tag, The Bat Beta,
am Dienstag, 24. Juli 2018 um 16:44 someone whose identity had been
deliberately hidden by the mailing list processor
>>> I added the X-Return Path to headers which gave me your email address, but
>>> not
>>> your name.
> There is no X-R
On 24 July 2018 at 09:11 tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com wrote and made
these points
>> Of course, with the change in list message addressing, it is now vital
>> to state who you are in the body of the message or with a signature
>> footer.
TBL> Can the list preserve the name of the sender?
I
Guten Tag, The Bat Beta,
this mail comes to you from Lüko Willms mailto:wil...@luekowillms.de
(this is true, but since this is just text, it could by anything)
am Dienstag, 24. Juli 2018 um 17:42 schrieben Sie:
> DMARC compliant MTA servers receiving messages with a from hea
On 24 July 2018 at 20:43 Lüko Willms wrote and made these points
...
TBB>And I want to remind the Ritlabs people that they still need
TBB> to repair the suppression of the Authors in various mailing list
TBB> systems, notably in Yahoo Groups, what I had pointed out to them
TBB> many months
On 24 July 2018 at 22:23 tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com wrote and made
these points
>> Beyond that, it may be a question of re-homing.
TBB> We can host the list at our server mailing.ritlabs.com.
That sounds like a sensible solution. May I request that I reverse the
configuration change for now
Hello Marck,
Tuesday, July 24, 2018, 7:43:07 PM, you wrote:
> Beyond that, it may be a question of re-homing.
We can host the list at our server mailing.ritlabs.com.
--
Best regards,
Maxim Masiutin
Current beta is 8.5.8.2 | 'Using
<<<< this post by Eddie Castelli [ec] ed...@50mincoach.com >>>>
Dear The, (aka Thomas)
--->>> The Bat Beta / Wednesday 25-Jul-18, 08:07:52
Moderators Announcement
> Otherwise, mailing lists will become unusable and hence a thing of the
> past
Wikipedia entry that author "The Bat Beta" posted on
Tue, 24 Jul 2018 10:38:19 +0200:
QUOTE
Mailing lists
Mailing lists are a frequent cause of legitimate breakage of the
original author's domain DKIM signature. They routinely change the
SPF-authenticated domain, and therefore break DM
Title: Re: Cheating by the mailing list, hiding the actual author and origin of each message -- MUST END IMMEDIATELY!
Hello The,
Tuesday, July 24, 2018, 1:09:20 PM, you wrote:
Guten Tag, The Bat Beta,
am Dienstag, 24. Juli 2018 um 16:44 someone whose identity had been deliberately
Title: Re: ***UNCHECKED*** Re: 8.5.8.2 (second announcement)
Hello The,
Tuesday, July 24, 2018, 8:41:57 AM, you wrote:
Sometimes,
>>> Deliberately not signed. ;-)
>> This arrangement is, of course, exactly what spammers want. Maxim's intent for this group
>> was, I suspect, to make it
Hello The,
Tuesday, July 24, 2018, 2:23:06 PM, you wrote:
> Hello Marck,
> Tuesday, July 24, 2018, 7:43:07 PM, you wrote:
>> Beyond that, it may be a question of re-homing.
> We can host the list at our server mailing.ritlabs.com.
I think that would be a great idea. This way, you will have
Hello tbbeta,
Unfortunately i loose in mailing list a the track who sent me which
mail.
The X-Sender is not a useful indication as it can not be seen in
message list header.
--
Regards
Gwen
Using The Bat! Version 8.5.8.2 (ALPHA) (32-bit) on Windows 10.0 (Build 17134 )
The,
> On 24 July 2018 at 16:05 someone wrote and made
> these points
TBB>> Deliberately,
> I added the X-Return Path to headers which gave me your email address,
> but not
> your name.
>>> There is no X-Return Path on the mail I reply to herewith.
>>> That only works for the
Hello Tbbeta,
We have to figure out how to preserve somehow the sender name and address in
the list.
It seems that we are now using 2.1.13 released Dec 22 2009.
Maybe if we install Mailman 2.1.28 released Jul 23 2018 it will have options
that we need?
--
Best regards,
Maxim Masiutin
Guten Tag, tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com,
am Dienstag, 24. Juli 2018 um 10:38 schrieben Sie:
>> It is really annoying to not see directly in het header of a message
>> who has sent it. It is a kind of anonymizing I do not appreciate at
>> all.
> For info purposes:
Guten Tag, The Bat Beta,
am Dienstag, 24. Juli 2018 um 13:32 schrieben Sie:
> Hello The,
> Tuesday, July 24, 2018, 4:48:43 AM, you wrote:
>> I can't find any option to do that in Mailman beyond the option you
>> just asked me to turn off.
>> "Hide the s
Hello The,
Tuesday, July 24, 2018, 4:48:43 AM, you wrote:
> I can't find any option to do that in Mailman beyond the option you
> just asked me to turn off.
> "Hide the sender of a message, replacing it with the list address
> (Removes From, Sender and Reply-To fields)"
> ... unless anyone
>> Deliberately not signed. ;-)
> This arrangement is, of course, exactly what spammers want. Maxim's intent
> for this group
> was, I suspect, to make it easier to reply without having to check whether
> you are sending to the
> group and not to the message originator.
Sometimes I prefer
Sometimes,
>>> Deliberately not signed. ;-)
>> This arrangement is, of course, exactly what spammers want. Maxim's intent
>> for this group
>> was, I suspect, to make it easier to reply without having to check whether
>> you are sending to the
>> group and not to the message originator.
>
On 24 July 2018 at 16:05 someone wrote and made
these points
TBB> Deliberately,
I added the X-Return Path to headers which gave me your email address, but
not
your name.
>> There is no X-Return Path on the mail I reply to herewith.
>> That only works for the sender to get info
Dear TBBeta Fellows,
On 24 July 2018 at 15:17 somebody, somewhere wrote and made
these points
>>> It is really annoying to not see directly in het header of a message
>>> who has sent it. It is a kind of anonymizing I do not appreciate at
>>> all.
Agreed.
>> For info purposes:
>> I added the X-Return Path to headers which gave me your email address, but
>> not
>> your name.
There is no X-Return Path on the mail I reply to herewith.
That only works for the sender to get info to send the message to,
and not for the receiver.
Deliberately not signed. ;-)
Deliberately,
>>> I added the X-Return Path to headers which gave me your email address, but
>>> not
>>> your name.
> There is no X-Return Path on the mail I reply to herewith.
> That only works for the sender to get info to send the message to,
> and not for the receiver.
> Deliberately not
Dear Max,
On 24 July 2018 at 17:32 tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com wrote and made
these points
TBB> We have to figure out how to preserve somehow the sender name and address
in the list.
We do. Or we work out if it possible to revert and issue standing
instructions to subscribers whitelist
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