Re[2]: Starnge HDD activity / lockup with msg deletion

2002-08-21 Thread Luigi Rosa
Hello Roelof, Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 8:09:21 AM, you wrote: RO Never noticed that behaviour. RO When was your last compress? When was your last defrag of your mail RO partition? Especially compressing your messagebase can prevent these. RO (Folder - Compress all folders) I always

Re: I'd like to manipulate a message with 'Run External Program' filter action

2002-08-21 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi James, @20-Aug-2002, 17:58 -0500 (23:58 UK time) James Olsen [JO] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: ... snip JO My external program is (or at least should be) modifying the JO file passed to it as %1. JO However, the message

Re: HTML...

2002-08-21 Thread Gerard
ON Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 12:45:40 AM, you wrote: RMR to avoid certain kinds of javascript that trigger popup ads, or RMR annoying animations, for example. RMR most of the Proxomitron rules look like: RMR Search for this kind of code, replace it with this that does RMR

Re: Take the bat to linux (offical linux bat thread).

2002-08-21 Thread Jakob Breivik Grimstveit
At 20.08.2002 16:04, Peter Palmreuther wrote the following: in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] was written: JBG The question is - will RIT Labs be able to release anything under an JBG Open Source licence? Why do they have to? Is there anything I've overlooked in the last

Re[3]: archiving

2002-08-21 Thread Joseph N.
On Tuesday, August 20, 2002, Razgo wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: JN However, I also archive certain email on the fly. For those messages, JN I have filters set up which automatically append the message onto a JN Unix-formatted file. R yes, this is something I will have

Export to EML does not work properly

2002-08-21 Thread Eddie Castelli
Dear readers from 'TB!udl List', Is it possible that Exporting to .EML doesn't work properly? I managed to do so in some cases but generally TB! tells me 'Could not Export Message'. NOTE: I have assigned the Tool|Export to EML to a Short Key. When using the Tool|Export to MSG it works fine.

Re: Export to EML does not work properly

2002-08-21 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Eddie, On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 16:38:40 +0200GMT (21-8-02, 16:38 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: EC Dear readers from 'TB!udl List', EC Is it possible that Exporting to .EML doesn't work properly? EC NOTE: I have assigned the Tool|Export to EML to a Short Key. Reproduces here. Assigned

Re: Export to EML does not work properly

2002-08-21 Thread Eddie Castelli
Dear Roelof, --- Roelof Otten / Mittwoch, 21.08.2002, 17:17:10 Export to EML does not work properly Reproduces here. Assigned a hotkey and I got a pop-up to select a folder, ... Yes I forgot the specify. It asked also on my side for the folder. -- best regards Eddie Powered

Re[2]: Beginners List

2002-08-21 Thread Lynn Turriff
Tuesday, August 20, 2002, 10:07:49 AM, you wrote: E Yes, I think people are wonderful about answering the questions E that newcomers might pose, if the newcomers are willing to E surface. But many threads are way over their heads or of no E interest to a beginner who is attempting to learn

Periodical checking stops working

2002-08-21 Thread Johnny Skaaning
Hello all, Using The Bat on Windows 2000 Pro, at some point after installation (it varies a lot - sometimes days sometimes weeks) the periodical checking that I use to check 4 mail accounts with stops working. I generally have The Bat check for mail every 4 minutes, now I have to do it

Re: Beginners List

2002-08-21 Thread Blarp
Hi Lynn, LT and any LT who were intimidated would probably have been intimidated LT by the software and gone to something else anyway IMHO, most anyone who bothers to find out about TB and downloads it to give it a shot is, by definition, probably NOT a beginner at e-mail. They are specifically

Re: Periodical checking stops working

2002-08-21 Thread Blarp
Hi Johnny, JS Using The Bat on Windows 2000 Pro, at some point after installation JS (it varies a lot - sometimes days sometimes weeks) the periodical JS checking that I use to check 4 mail accounts with stops working. JS I generally have The Bat check for mail every 4 minutes, now I have to JS

Re: Periodical checking stops working

2002-08-21 Thread Britt Malka
Dear Johnny, Wednesday, August 21, 2002 at 7:59:51 PM you wrote: JS Using The Bat on Windows 2000 Pro, at some point after installation JS (it varies a lot - sometimes days sometimes weeks) the periodical JS checking that I use to check 4 mail accounts with stops working. It is a pity that

Re[2]: Periodical checking stops working

2002-08-21 Thread John Thomas
Hello Britt, On August 21, 2002, at 11:12 AM you [BM] wrote (at least in part): BM It is a pity that you don't mention the version you are using in BM your template. I found it very handy to show the mailer of all messages. I found this is possible by selecting View, Message Header, Mailer.

Re: Beginners List

2002-08-21 Thread ETM
Hello Blarp On Wednesday, August 21, 2002, you wrote IMHO, most anyone who bothers to find out about TB and downloads it to give it a shot is, by definition, probably NOT a beginner at e-mail. They are specifically looking for something more advanced than what they are currently using or

Re: Periodical checking stops working

2002-08-21 Thread Johnny Skaaning
Hi Blarp, Britt Malka and John Thomas, B It happened to me and reinstall didn't cure it. Same platform. I have B no idea what causes it or how to fix it. And so far, no one else on B this list does either. You might try submitting a bug report. Maybe an B extra voice will help. That is really

Re: Periodical checking stops working

2002-08-21 Thread Blarp
Hi Britt, BM Try to upgrade to version 1.61. I have heard of no problems with BM that version. There have been at least 4 reports of this problem on 1.61 that I've seen (including mine). -- Tom G. http://blarp.com -- Free tech support The Bat 1.61 - Windows 2000

Re: Periodical checking stops working

2002-08-21 Thread Ross West
Hi Johnny, JS Using The Bat on Windows 2000 Pro, at some point after installation JS (it varies a lot - sometimes days sometimes weeks) the periodical JS checking that I use to check 4 mail accounts with stops working. JS I generally have The Bat check for mail every 4 minutes, now I have to JS

Exemptions, group addressing, and odd behaviour

2002-08-21 Thread Jonathan Angliss
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I posted a little while ago about an issue I was having with a filter that was supposed to look in an exemptions list to see whether or not to add the user to my TB! contacts list. If the user was listed there, it would not add them to that

Re: Periodical checking stops working

2002-08-21 Thread Gerard
ON Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 8:38:10 PM, you wrote: B Hi Britt, BM Try to upgrade to version 1.61. I have heard of no problems with BM that version. B There have been at least 4 reports of this problem on 1.61 that I've B seen (including mine). Hi Blarp, You did get it started again I

Re: Periodical checking stops working

2002-08-21 Thread Joe User
There have been at least 4 reports of this problem on 1.61 that I've seen (including mine). I'm now experiencing this problem. No firewall installed. XP Pro. 1.60q. --- Cheers, Joe Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL

Re: Starnge HDD activity / lockup with msg deletion

2002-08-21 Thread Joe User
Luigi, Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 12:56:59 AM, you typed: I noticed that too. It seems that TB! calls some sort of delete_single_message() funcion for each of the selected messages instead of a sort of delete_multiple_message() in wich it could perform the messagebase housekeeping

Re: Periodical checking stops working

2002-08-21 Thread Luc
Good evening Johnny, It was foretold that on 21-8-2002 20:59:51 GMT+0300 (which was 19:59:51 where I live) Johnny Skaaning spread these wise comments: snipped a bit JS Using The Bat on Windows 2000 Pro, at some point after installation JS (it varies a lot - sometimes days sometimes weeks)

Re: Starnge HDD activity / lockup with msg deletion

2002-08-21 Thread Joe User
Roelof, Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 1:09:21 AM, you typed: Never noticed that behaviour. Count your blessings. When was your last compress? When was your last defrag of your mail partition? Especially compressing your messagebase can prevent these. (Folder - Compress all folders) I don't

Re: Beginners List

2002-08-21 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Blarp [B] wrote:' B IMHO, most anyone who bothers to find out about TB and downloads B it to give it a shot is, by definition, probably NOT a beginner B at e-mail. They are specifically looking for

Re: Starnge HDD activity / lockup with msg deletion

2002-08-21 Thread Joe User
Luigi, Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 1:36:23 AM, you typed: I always copress/pack on exit, but when I delete a lot of messages in one time the time it takes is incredibly long (say 4-5 seconds for about 80/100 msgs) I don't. However, my deletes from the trash take about the same amount of

Re: Beginners List

2002-08-21 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Etm [E] wrote:' E I think TB is missing a BIG market for its product. Potentially yes, and people like us, using non-mainstream and powerful software like TB! tend to always be saddened by the small user

Re: Export to EML does not work properly

2002-08-21 Thread Hexdump
Hello Roelof, Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 11:17:10 AM, you wrote: Hallo Eddie, On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 16:38:40 +0200GMT (21-8-02, 16:38 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: EC Dear readers from 'TB!udl List', EC Is it possible that Exporting to .EML doesn't work properly? EC NOTE: I have

Re: Starnge HDD activity / lockup with msg deletion

2002-08-21 Thread Hexdump
Hello Joe, Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 3:07:14 PM, you wrote: Roelof, Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 1:09:21 AM, you typed: [snip] When was your last compress? When was your last defrag of your mail partition? Especially compressing your messagebase can prevent these. (Folder - Compress all

Re: Periodical checking stops working

2002-08-21 Thread Blarp
Hi Ross, RW If so, you're probably running into a nice little conflict that I RW posted about a few days ago and gave a couple of solutions for getting RW around the problem. I wish this were the case. I've tried disabling my firewall (Tiny Personal, not ZA) and it still stops periodical

Re: Periodical checking stops working

2002-08-21 Thread Blarp
Hi Gerard, G You did get it started again I guess, since you are using TB! now. No I haven't. I just put up with it and manually click. -- Tom G. http://blarp.com -- Free tech support The Bat 1.61 - Windows 2000 Current version is

Re: Starnge HDD activity / lockup with msg deletion

2002-08-21 Thread ETM
Hello Hexdump On Wednesday, August 21, 2002, you wrote If you've never compressed the folder in the TB!, I'd recommend that you do so. To the best of my knowledge deleted messages remain in the messagebase (marked as deleted, and are hidden) until the messagebase is compressed. You can

Re: Periodical checking stops working

2002-08-21 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Johnny, @21-Aug-2002, 21:34 +0300 (19:34 UK time) Johnny Skaaning [JS] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: B ... no idea what causes it or how to fix it. And so far, no one B else on this list does either. You might try submitting

Re: Periodical checking stops working

2002-08-21 Thread Gerard
ON Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 9:25:09 PM, you wrote: B Hi Gerard, G You did get it started again I guess, since you are using TB! now. B No I haven't. I just put up with it and manually click. I have a very similar setup for 6 months now and even use ZA and no problems. Have a look at:

Re: Periodical checking stops working

2002-08-21 Thread Blarp
Hi Gerard, G Have a look at: Control panel | administrative tools| services. G Check if task scheduler is started/automatic G Same for DHCP client / DNS client. All good so that's not it. -- Tom G. http://blarp.com -- Free tech support The Bat 1.61 - Windows 2000

Re: Export to EML does not work properly

2002-08-21 Thread Arjan de Groot
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Roelof Otten wrote: ECIs it possible that Exporting to .EML doesn't work properly? Reproduces here. Same here. Assigned a hotkey and I got a pop-up to select a folder, but I got an error and no files were saved. No matter what pane was selected.

Re: Periodical checking stops working

2002-08-21 Thread Johnny Skaaning
Hello Blarp, B I wish this were the case. I've tried disabling my firewall (Tiny B Personal, not ZA) and it still stops periodical checking. It WILL B check on startup but nothing after that. Ok, this may be of interest to you and others: Earlier today I uninstalled The Bat, but I said no to

Re: Periodical checking stops working

2002-08-21 Thread Joe User
Johnny, Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 3:15:37 PM, you typed: Would be good if somebody with the same problem could confirm if this procedure works there too. What would be better is if someone could see how long this will actually work for. Not interested in reinstalling this client every few

Re: The Bat/ZoneAlarm quirks.

2002-08-21 Thread Alexandros CICOVIC
Hello Ross, Tuesday, August 20, 2002, 7:18:11 PM, you wrote: RW No problem. The joys of working at an ISP, eventually it would RW come back to haunt me as people start complaining about my load RW balancer and how it doesn't work, when in fact it's ZA that's RW causing the issue. Even if

Re: Periodical checking stops working

2002-08-21 Thread Johnny Skaaning
Hello Joe, JU What would be better is if someone could see how long this will JU actually work for. Not interested in reinstalling this client every JU few weeks or months in order for it to work properly. A good point and very true. When left with no other immediate options one often resorts

Re: Periodical checking stops working

2002-08-21 Thread Gerard
ON Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 10:29:25 PM, you wrote: JS A good point and very true. When left with no other immediate options JS one often resorts to second best. For me as a private user JS reinstalling it isn't such a big deal (particularly thanks to the splendid JS backup/restore function)

Re: Periodical checking stops working

2002-08-21 Thread Joe User
Johnny, Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 3:29:25 PM, you typed: A good point and very true. When left with no other immediate options one often resorts to second best. For me as a private user reinstalling it isn't such a big deal (particularly thanks to the splendid backup/restore function) but

Re[2]: Beginners List

2002-08-21 Thread Jeanny House
Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 1:05:49 PM, Allie C Martin wrote: ACM You don't have to be a beginner to find TB! intimidating or too much ACM to handle. IMO, it really depends on your needs and what you want ACM out of it as well as your willingness to wade through its feature ACM rich interface to

Re[2]: Periodical checking stops working

2002-08-21 Thread Britt Malka
Dear Blarp, Wednesday, August 21, 2002 at 8:38:10 PM you wrote: B There have been at least 4 reports of this problem on 1.61 that I've B seen (including mine). Okay... It is the first time I heard about it. None of our customers seem to have the problem. -- Kind regards, Britt Malka

Re[2]: Periodical checking stops working

2002-08-21 Thread Britt Malka
Dear Joe, Wednesday, August 21, 2002 at 9:02:48 PM you wrote: There have been at least 4 reports of this problem on 1.61 that I've seen (including mine). JU I'm now experiencing this problem. JU No firewall installed. JU XP Pro. JU 1.60q. Yeah, but you are cheating ;-) You use 1.60. I

Re: Periodical checking stops working

2002-08-21 Thread Johnny Skaaning
Hello Gerard, G You also might want to copy all the register setting to a file so you G can check for differences and do a restore if it happens again. G This could possibly help find the cause if it is in TB! registry. I should have thought about that before I 'solved' the problem by

Re: Starnge HDD activity / lockup with msg deletion

2002-08-21 Thread Joe User
Hexdump, Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 2:18:58 PM, you typed: If you've never compressed the folder in the TB!, I'd recommend that you do so. To the best of my knowledge deleted messages remain in the messagebase (marked as deleted, and are hidden) until the messagebase is compressed. You can

Re: Starnge HDD activity / lockup with msg deletion

2002-08-21 Thread Jonathan Angliss
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, August 21, 2002, Joe User wrote... I went ahead and purged and compressed. Thanks for the info. I hope this helps remedy this laggy situation! It should help even if just a little as it will remove all the so called deleted

Re: The Bat/ZoneAlarm quirks.

2002-08-21 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Ross, On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, at 10:27:44 GMT -0400 (8/20/02, 9:27 AM -0500 GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: RW Hope that helps to give people an explanation as to what's happening RW and a solution for people in the future. I haven't had a problem with TB

Re: Beginners List

2002-08-21 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Jeanny House [JH] wrote:' JH I'm not a beginner, but I find I know less and less about JH computer stuff as time goes on. I could navigate around MS-DOS JH pretty well, then settled into the easier stuff

Re: Auto Delete Certain Messages

2002-08-21 Thread Jan Rifkinson
Hi Sudip. At 9:33 AM on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 you [SP] wrote the following about Auto Delete Certain Messages: SP I looked around but can't find an effective SP way to delete messages from *a particular SP sender* after 'n' number of days. Of course SP there's the folder option, keep

Re: The Bat/ZoneAlarm quirks.

2002-08-21 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Greg Strong [GS] wrote:' RW Hope that helps to give people an explanation as to what's RW happening and a solution for people in the future. GS I haven't had a problem with TB ZAP, but thanks for the

Re[2]: Beginners List

2002-08-21 Thread Razgo
Hi Blarp, Thursday, August 22, 2002, 4:04:13 AM, you wrote: B Hi Lynn, LT and any LT who were intimidated would probably have been intimidated LT by the software and gone to something else anyway B IMHO, most anyone who bothers to find out about TB and downloads it to B give it a shot is, by

Re: Periodical checking stops working

2002-08-21 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Johnny, On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, at 23:15:37 GMT +0300 (8/21/02, 3:15 PM -0500 GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: JS Just now I uninstalled the program and answered yes to all questions JS of removal - that is both from the registry and the mail directory. JS

Re: The Bat/ZoneAlarm quirks.

2002-08-21 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Allie, On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, at 18:34:02 GMT -0500 (8/21/02, 6:34 PM -0500 GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: ACM I don't think ZA is to blame for the frequently reported problems ACM with auto-mail checking. Especially since a clean install of TB! ACM fixes

Re: The Bat/ZoneAlarm quirks.

2002-08-21 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Greg Strong [GS] wrote:' GS Are you referring to [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ? Yes. This testimony is an interesting one. Not only this one, but one person in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL

Re: The Bat/ZoneAlarm quirks.

2002-08-21 Thread Greg Strong
Hello Allie, On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, at 20:17:58 GMT -0500 (8/21/02, 8:17 PM -0500 GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: ACM Blarp is using Tiny Personal Firewall and not ZA. He has the ACM problem. Luc, also with the problem, isn't using ZA. ACM ZA may be known to

Re[2]: Beginners List

2002-08-21 Thread Lynn Turriff
Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 11:04:13 AM, you wrote: B IMHO, most anyone who bothers to find out about TB and B downloads it to give it a shot is, by definition, B probably NOT a beginner at e-mail. They are B specifically looking for something more advanced than B what they are currently using

Re[3]: Beginners List

2002-08-21 Thread Lynn Turriff
Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 6:10:03 PM, you wrote: R actually that's exactly how I found the bat!. I was looking for R something that functioned and was more advanced than what I was R using. Hi Razgo - Did you find it difficult to set up and use? I've been using TB for several years, but

Re[4]: Beginners List

2002-08-21 Thread Razgo
Hi Lynn, Thursday, August 22, 2002, 3:29:43 PM, you wrote: LT Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 6:10:03 PM, you wrote: R actually that's exactly how I found the bat!. I was looking for R something that functioned and was more advanced than what I was R using. LT Hi Razgo - LT Did you find it

Re: Periodical checking stops working

2002-08-21 Thread Joe User
I found a way to fix it. Change my client. 8) Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Beginners List

2002-08-21 Thread Clive Taylor
21 August 2002, 19:36, you wrote: E I think TB is missing a BIG market for its product. If you mean that TB is suitable (or appropriate) for retirees, silver surfers, the grey market -- or whatever today's euphemism for the elderly is, I think I'd disagree. I provide home support and advice

Re: Beginners List

2002-08-21 Thread ETM
Hello Clive On Thursday, August 22, 2002, you wrote 21 August 2002, 19:36, you wrote: If you mean that TB is suitable (or appropriate) for retirees, silver surfers, the grey market -- or whatever today's euphemism for the elderly is, I think I'd disagree. I'm one of them smile. I think