Hi Jonathan,
On vendredi 17 janvier 2003 at 05:36:24, you wrote :
JA The funny thing is... I have started getting similar symptoms during
JA the last couple of days. I had to kill TB completely because it just
JA 'stopped' dead. The same seems to keep happening if I try to
JA refilter my
Thursday, January 16, 2003, 7:55:47 PM, Thomas scribbled:
TF No, but my guess is that it has to do with another software. Let me
TF guess. Which anti-virus program do you use, and how big where the
TF attachments?
Trend Micro PC-Cillian 2003 and there were no attachments.
And it's the entire
Thursday, January 16, 2003, 7:55:47 PM, Thomas scribbled:
TF No, but my guess is that it has to do with another software. Let me
TF guess. Which anti-virus program do you use, and how big where the
TF attachments?
Trend Micro PC-Cillian 2003 and there were no attachments.
And it's the entire
Hello Michael,
Friday, January 17, 2003, 8:41:49 AM, you wrote:
Thursday, January 16, 2003, 7:55:47 PM, Thomas scribbled:
TF No, but my guess is that it has to do with another software. Let me
TF guess. Which anti-virus program do you use, and how big where the
TF attachments?
Trend Micro
Hello ,
Why can't the bat with all its extra features many of them nice but
some of them not that important do the following:
(1) Edit or use an existing HTML editor in a seamless manner
(2) Have the option of viewing HTML pages in its viewer. The double
clicking attachments is
Hello Michael Disabato !
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 06:24:27 -0600 GMT your local time,
which was 17.01.2003, 13:24 (GMT+0100) where I live, you (Michael Disabato)
wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]:">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Trend Micro PC-Cillian 2003 and there were no attachments.
And it's the entire
Fri, 17 Jan 2003 08:15:54 [GMT -0500] (8:15 AM EST here) Robert Silver
wrote:
Why can't the bat with all its extra features many of them nice but
some of them not that important do the following:
(1) Edit or use an existing HTML editor in a seamless manner
(2) Have the option of viewing
Hello Robert Silver,
On or about Friday, January 17, 2003 at 08:15:54GMT -0500 (which
was 8:15 AM in the tropics where I live) Robert Silver blithered:
RS Why can't the bat with all its extra features many of them nice but
RS some of them not that important do the following:
RS (1) Edit or
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On Friday, January 17, 2003, Eric Malaussena wrote...
JA The funny thing is... I have started getting similar symptoms
JA during the last couple of days. I had to kill TB completely
JA because it just 'stopped' dead. The same seems to keep happening
Allie,
On Thursday, January 16, 2003, Allie Martin wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Apparently there's no intention by Ritlabs to abandon support and
development of the v1.xx series, even though v2 development is
underway. They also intend to continue support of v1.xx
Hi,
Robert Silver wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
Subject: I love the Bat , but why can't the Bat allow me to edit HTML
documents or read my USENET news groups. Standard Email features
(1) HTML was never intended for email use, it is mostly being abused in
an email context
(2)
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003, Markus Gloede wrote:
(1) HTML was never intended for email use, it is mostly being abused in
an email context
(2) Reading/writing USENET news is something different than handling
email
Those are not standard email features. They have been wrapped into
email
Hello Markus Gloede,
On or about Friday, January 17, 2003 at 16:26:55GMT +0100 (which
was 10:26 AM in the tropics where I live) Markus Gloede shocked
us all by stating:
MG (1) HTML was never intended for email use, it is mostly
MG being abused in an email context
Amen brother!!
MG (2)
* Robert Silver [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Why can't the bat with all its extra features many of them nice but
some of them not that important do the following:
(1) Edit or use an existing HTML editor in a seamless manner
Because TB! users don't want that.
(2) Have the option of
Hello Robert,
(3) Read NNTP News Groups
I read and write news with TB, and I am not the only one. If you are
interested, take a look at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg36819.html
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v1.61
Hello Spike,
Wanting everything rolled into one is what causes vulnerability
and bloatware. Leave TB just as it is, a simple and efficient
mail client, as it should be! All the things you mentioned are
the very reason TB! is gaining poularity. We don't WANT a MS
Outhouse clone, that's why
Hello Spike,
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:41:01 -0500 GMT (17/01/03, 22:41 +0700 GMT),
Spike wrote:
(3) Read NNTP News Groups
MG Many prefer using a separate client for that, yet future
MG releases might also implement that.
S*%T to that!
I am not sure about that first word, but Stefan said *if*
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On Friday, January 17, 2003, Robert Silver wrote...
(1) Edit or use an existing HTML editor in a seamless manner
It is rumored to be coming in version 2.
(2) Have the option of viewing HTML pages in its viewer. The double
clicking attachments is
Agreed.
If the Bat developers take such narrow and rigid stand on these issues, they
will drive away current and potential users, and I am afraid that would be
the end of product development.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Miguel A.
Hello Carsten,
(1) Edit or use an existing HTML editor in a seamless manner
Because TB! users don't want that.
Speak for yourself and perhaps for a number of users, but not for all.
I will not use HTML myself either, but I know of many TB users who
would and of non-TB users who would move to
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On Friday, January 17, 2003, Spike wrote...
RS (1) Edit or use an existing HTML editor in a seamless manner
God forbid! This is why I LIKE TB! Goodbye to bloatmail!! I will
soon be implementing a filter that sends to trash and deletes any
e-mail
Hello Spike,
I will soon be implementing a filter that sends to trash and deletes
any e-mail containing HTML - PERIOD!
I never write/send HTML e-mail, and I don't think I will in the
future. But if I implemented a filter like you intend to, I would
probably loose abut 1/3 of my business
Hello Jonathan,
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:53:44 -0600 GMT (17/01/03, 23:53 +0700 GMT),
Jonathan Angliss wrote:
I will soon be implementing a filter that sends to trash and
deletes any e-mail containing HTML - PERIOD!
Unless they alter the way they do their filtering, you can't.
ACK.
It
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Hi Kenneth,
@17-Jan-2003, 11:45 -0500 (16:45 UK time) Kenneth S. Rhee said:
Agreed.
... snip
moderator
Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not
just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have
Hello 3w,
Does anyone on this forum heard about compatibility issue between the
bat 1.61 and Kaspersky AV plugin ?
I made a deinstall-reinstall procedure and the problem still remains.
Any comment ?
Le Thursday, January 16, 2003, à 7:53:40 AM, vous avez écrit:
3 Wednesday, January 15, 2003,
On Friday, January 17, 2003, 11:38 AM, you wrote:
MAU You would be surprised by the number of TB users who would prefer a
MAU mailnews integrated environment. And don't be narrow minded, the fact
MAU that a program has options doesn't mean you have to use them. For
MAU example, I don't use the
* Miguel A. Urech writes:
Hello Carsten,
(1) Edit or use an existing HTML editor in a seamless manner
Because TB! users don't want that.
Speak for yourself and perhaps for a number of users, but not for all.
Okay.
I will not use HTML myself either, but I know of many TB users who
would
Hello Marck!
On Friday, January 17, 2003, 11:07 AM, you wrote:
snipped considerably :)
M /moderator
M ** Stock essay about top posting. **
snip
M Top posted replies make messages harder to read than they should
M be. ...
Yes, they do, and you long ago convinced me! This is the first
Hello Jonathan,
(3) Read NNTP News Groups
That isn't a standard email feature. NNTP is news, and not email...
they are two different things.
Of course, but they can both be integrated in a same environment and
program. And that, for many of us, is a great advantage. Before I
moved to TB over
Ditto folks
KSR Agreed.
KSR If the Bat developers take such narrow and rigid stand on these issues, they
KSR will drive away current and potential users, and I am afraid that would be
KSR the end of product development.
and just for the record, HTML was not designed to be for web
pages only. It
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On Friday, January 17, 2003, Thomas Fernandez wrote...
I will soon be implementing a filter that sends to trash and
deletes any e-mail containing HTML - PERIOD!
Unless they alter the way they do their filtering, you can't.
ACK.
It depends how
Hello Carsten,
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:12:56 +0100 GMT (18/01/03, 00:12 +0700 GMT),
Carsten Thönges wrote:
And anyway, independently of what you or I may wish, if Ritlabs is
smart enough and they want to keep in business, they should
include an HTML editor in a near future version.
They _are_
Hello Paul,
I don't think TB ever could be as good with newsgroups as newsbin or
newsrover, at least with binary-type newsgroups.
Don't underestimate Ritlabs' programers. If they could write a better
e-mail client why do you assume they won't be able to write a better
newsreader?
--
Best
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On Friday, January 17, 2003, Carsten Thönges wrote...
NACK. If Ritlabs is smart enough and they want to keep in business,
they should provide full IMAP support for professional business
users or should improve (=debug) the not-so-bad client/server
Hello Miguel A. Urech,
On or about Friday, January 17, 2003 at 17:38:38GMT +0100 (which
was 11:38 AM in the tropics where I live) Miguel A. Urech opined:
MAU Hello Spike,
Wanting everything rolled into one is what causes vulnerability
and bloatware. Leave TB just as it is, a simple and
resistance is futile, html is here to stay.
I will soon be implementing a filter that sends to trash and deletes
any e-mail containing HTML - PERIOD!
MAU I never write/send HTML e-mail, and I don't think I will in
the MAU future. But if I implemented a filter like you intend
to, I would MAU
Hello Spike,
the key word in all this is _OPTIONAL_!
Of course!
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v1.61
Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Hello Laura,
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:26:38 -0800 GMT (18/01/03, 00:26 +0700 GMT),
Laura wrote:
and just for the record, HTML was not designed to be for web
pages only. It started long ago by IBM..
I am sorry, but this is historical nonsense. I have been to the IBM
museum (forgot which state in
Hello Laura,
On or about Friday, January 17, 2003 at 09:36:47GMT -0800 (which
was 12:36 PM in the tropics where I live) Laura regaled us with:
L resistance is futile, html is here to stay.
Not in my inbox it isn't! All my important correspondents know
and accept this.
I will soon be
Hello Spike,
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:36:42 -0500 GMT (18/01/03, 00:36 +0700 GMT),
Spike wrote:
I'm not being narrow, the key word in all this is _OPTIONAL_! I
don't use ANY anti-virus anywhere. I don't have to, as I use the
best anti-virus package available, a properly informed brain!
Hello Jonathan,
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:31:55 -0600 GMT (18/01/03, 00:31 +0700 GMT),
Jonathan Angliss wrote:
It is technically possible to filter on that, very much like an HTML
attachment is now shown as such in the attachment pane. Currently it
is not possible to filter on attachment
Hello Carsten,
Speak for yourself and perhaps for a number of users, but not for all.
Okay.
:-))
As for the rest of your message, I fully agree with what Thomas writes
in his [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] so I won't repeat.
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Hello Laura,
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:36:47 -0800 GMT (18/01/03, 00:36 +0700 GMT),
Laura wrote:
MAU I never write/send HTML e-mail, and I don't think I will in the
MAU future. But if I implemented a filter like you intend to, I
MAU would probably loose abut 1/3 of my business e-mail. And belive
Hi Batpersons,
On or about, Friday, January 17, 2003, 5:48:29 PM, we have reason to believe that
Thomas Fernandez wrote:
TF Fact is, the computer was invented by Conrad Zuse (Google has more
TF info on this German inventor), and HTML was invented by James Bernhard
TF Lee at CERN in Switzerland.
On Friday, January 17, 2003, 12:32 PM, you wrote:
MAU Hello Paul,
I don't think TB ever could be as good with newsgroups as newsbin or
newsrover, at least with binary-type newsgroups.
MAU Don't underestimate Ritlabs' programers. If they could write a better
MAU e-mail client why do you
On Friday, January 17, 2003, 6:48:29 PM,
Thomas Fernandez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
HTML was invented by James Bernhard
Lee at CERN in Switzerland.
That would be Tim Bernes Lee.
HTML is the HyperText Markup Language
and links documents via the hypertext technology. Some people say he
On Friday, January 17, 2003, 6:36:47 PM,
Laura ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
there are certain advantages to it as well...
including hilighting things that are important when sending out a
report, and more. THINK about it. :)
Attach the report as an HTML file, most recipient will find it more
NEWS in TB?!? NO THANK YOU - and do not expect me to accept a price raise
of 30% because TB3 (or whenever it is coming out) now adds a newsreader!
/ St
Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information:
On Friday, January 17, 2003, 6:32:14 PM,
Miguel A. Urech ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Don't underestimate Ritlabs' programers. If they could write a better
e-mail client why do you assume they won't be able to write a better
newsreader?
It *could* be a great newsreader, but attachment handling
Hello Thomas,
But HTML was never meant to be part of email, which at the time when
HTML was created didn't even know anything but plain text.
And, as you may know, the composition of Viagra was not meant for the
purpose it is being widely and mainly used. They are taking advantage
of a side
mj Attach the report as an HTML file, most recipient will find
mj it more convenient that way.
working in offices its not as easy.. but i don't want to get in
an argument about it
--
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Current version is 1.62 |
Hello Laura,
resistance is futile, html is here to stay.
Just like Coca-Cola and McDonald ;-)
MAU I never write/send HTML e-mail, and I don't think I will in
the MAU future. But if I implemented a filter like you intend
to, I would MAU probably loose abut 1/3 of my business e-mail.
Hi Laura,
on Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:36:47 -0800GMT (17.01.03, 18:36 +0100GMT here),
you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
MAU I never write/send HTML e-mail, and I don't think I will in
the MAU future. But if I implemented a filter like you intend
L to, I would MAU probably loose
Hello Spike,
Otherwise, as I stated earlier we would just have a re-written MS
Outhouse, and . . . why bother?
Not really. I haven't ever used Outlook, so I'm not familiar. But I
doubt it has the filtering and templates power (just to name a couple
of things) TB has.
--
Best regards,
Miguel
Hello Nick,
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:10:51 + GMT (18/01/03, 01:10 +0700 GMT),
Nick Gordon wrote:
TF Fact is, the computer was invented by Conrad Zuse (Google has more
TF info on this German inventor), and HTML was invented by James Bernhard
TF Lee at CERN in Switzerland.
Tim Berners Lee, I
Hello Thomas,
What kind of serious report needs highlighting by colour of font?
And what serious plain text e-mail needs to be viewed with an RTV
(Rick Text Viewer :) which can use different fonts and colours for odd
and even reply quotes, and for text, and for signature, etc. And yet,
some of
Hello Paul,
I think they will probably stay away from it though, remember it
would add SEVER bloat to the program to add that much capability.
I disagree. Most of the code needed to add (a very good) newsreader
capability to TB is already there. Message base and folder management,
filters,
Hello Miguel,
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 19:38:41 +0100 GMT (18/01/03, 01:38 +0700 GMT),
Miguel A. Urech wrote:
And what serious plain text e-mail needs to be viewed with an RTV
(Rick Text Viewer :)
Any mail written in Thai language! Thai fonts in fixed-width font are
plain *ugly*. But then, that is
Hello marek,
It *could* be a great newsreader,
It *is* already, I currently use it for 17 newsgroups.
but attachment handling would have to be thoroughly reworked. In my
freelance work I receive and send lots of large and very large
attachments (1-20MB). TB takes *ages* to just display a
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On Friday, January 17, 2003, Thomas Fernandez wrote...
It is technically possible to filter on that, very much like an
HTML attachment is now shown as such in the attachment pane.
Currently it is not possible to filter on attachment extensions,
Hello Thomas,
Any mail written in Thai language!
But Thai is not _plain_ text, it is a _very complicated_ text ;-)
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v1.61
Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information:
Hello Jonathan,
This is true I guess, but it wouldn't be a few nano-seconds for large
attached emails. I get some in the range of 90-200meg sometimes, and
even just selecting and opening them can take some time.
I'm sure you have heard about FTP, haven't you? ;-)
--
Best regards,
Miguel A.
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On Friday, January 17, 2003, Miguel A. Urech wrote...
Agent's threading is also superior, IMO.
In the 17 groups I monitor (with TB) I have never seen an
un-properly threaded message.
Having looked at the RFCs for NNTP, the threading is done in
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On Friday, January 17, 2003, Miguel A. Urech wrote...
This is true I guess, but it wouldn't be a few nano-seconds for
large attached emails. I get some in the range of 90-200meg
sometimes, and even just selecting and opening them can take some
Hello all,
I know this has been discussed before, but I was hoping to see some
results by now. When toggling between windows, 95% of the time, my Bat
hangs for about 2-5 seconds before the window shows. The other 5% of
the time it will hang completely.
I am running:
The Bat 1.62 Christmas
This may not be relevant, but I was seeing The Bat! get slower and
slower until it took 15 minutes to move a couple mail messages between
folders.
Since I enabled the Account Option to Compress Folders on Exit, folder
operation and receipt of mail has speeded up incredibly. The first
time that
On Friday, January 17, 2003, 8:02:52 PM,
Miguel A. Urech ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Someone could perhaps say that e-mail was not invented to send
attachments, at least large attachments. FTP was invented for that :)
This is fair enough; the encode/decode overhead is a necessary evil.
But not
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On Friday, January 17, 2003, Lawrence Johnson wrote...
Since I enabled the Account Option to Compress Folders on Exit,
folder operation and receipt of mail has speeded up incredibly. The
first time that Folders were compressed, the operation took
Hello Jonathan,
Having looked at the RFCs for NNTP, the threading is done in an
identical fashion I believe, even using the same header names,
In-Reply-To and References. Those are the same headers that TB! uses
to do normal mail threading, and so the threading will work over there
too.
Hi Mary,
on Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:24:53 -0600GMT (17.01.03, 18:24 +0100GMT here),
you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
M ** Stock essay about top posting. **
MB snip
M Top posted replies make messages harder to read than they should
M be. ...
MB Yes, they do, and you long
* Thomas Fernandez writes:
Carsten Thönges wrote:
And anyway, independently of what you or I may wish, if Ritlabs is
smart enough and they want to keep in business, they should
include an HTML editor in a near future version.
They _are_ smart. Wait and see... ;-)
Oha!
NACK. If Ritlabs
On 17 January 2003, 19:37, James Van Horn wrote:
I know this has been discussed before, but I was hoping to see some
results by now. When toggling between windows, 95% of the time, my Bat
hangs for about 2-5 seconds before the window shows. The other 5% of
the time it will hang completely.
Hi all,
for a couple of weeks I have been observing a tendency on this list to
discuss topics that don't fall in the range of TB! beginners. Interesting
as they may be, wouldn't it be better to use TBTECH or TBOT?
I only mention this because I recommended TBUDL to several friends, and
some of
* Thomas Fernandez writes:
Spike wrote:
(3) Read NNTP News Groups
MG Many prefer using a separate client for that, yet future
MG releases might also implement that.
S*%T to that!
I am not sure about that first word, but Stefan said *if* TB gets
newsreader capabilities, it will be by way
On Saturday, 18 January 2003, at 4:26:55 a.m., Markus Gloede wrote:
Those are not standard email features. They have been wrapped into
email clients by other companies and they made a bad job at it and have
thus set a quasi-standard which led you to believe those are standard
features.
Amen!
Hello marek,
I've never seen TB thread newsgroups, yet :)
If you have a folder for this list and view threads by Reference, that
is exactly how you will see newsgroups threads.
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v1.61
Hello Carsten,
I know that, like Miguel, there are some guys who use their TB! as a
newsreader, but what about scoring, killfiling, ignoring threads
etc.? Don't you miss that in TB!?
Once you have downloaded messages, what is the big difference between
a newsgroup and a mail list like this
Hello marek jedlinski,
On or about Friday, January 17, 2003 at 19:13:57GMT +0100 (which
was 1:13 PM in the tropics where I live) marek jedlinski mumbeld:
mj Absolutely. HTML not only makes email unreadable to lots of
mj people, it is the main source and reason for email-related
mj security
Hi Spike,
on Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:36:08 -0500GMT (17.01.03, 22:36 +0100GMT here),
you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
S Funny how, since I have gone from US $2.50/hour dialup to US
S $125.00 a month for ADSL
Wow, that's expensive! That's what they charge at Cayman's? I
Friday, January 17, 2003, 6:58:00 AM, Daniel scribbled:
DR Have you tried restarting your system? Also, look in the WINNT\TEMP
Better than that. I wiped the C drive and re-installed Win2K. Thought
it might be a conflict with Outlook, which I need for work. I'm
beginning to think I have too many
Friday, January 17, 2003, 8:15:36 AM, Gerd scribbled:
GE Did you enable Virus-Check by accident without having a plugin?
GE Options, Virus checking, Check incoming mail
Nope. It's all unchecked there.
Thanks!
Mike
Current version is 1.62 |
Is there an upper limite The Bat! can handle?
Well, at least it can hold 2,5GB in more than hundred folders
containing more than a total of 300.000 messages... ;)
/ St
Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information:
Hello Peter,
On Friday, January 17, 2003, 2:43 PM, you wrote:
P for a couple of weeks I have been observing a tendency on this list to
P discuss topics that don't fall in the range of TB! beginners. Interesting
P as they may be, wouldn't it be better to use TBTECH or TBOT?
Or else, define the
Hello All!
Could someone please explain what FTP is? It's been mentioned a lot
lately on the thread with the long subject line--the one about Usenet
and Newsgroup and HTML features as being potentially desirable in The
Bat!
I am already on record more than once as being for a plain vanilla
text
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On Friday, January 17, 2003, Mary Bull wrote...
P for a couple of weeks I have been observing a tendency on this
P list to discuss topics that don't fall in the range of TB!
P beginners. Interesting as they may be, wouldn't it be better to
P use
Could someone please explain what FTP is?
FTP = File Transfer Protocol - typically, you would use FTP
to transfer file(s) from one computer to another computer;
http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci213976,00.html
/ St
I checked my two folders for TB stuff (actually, there are four
when I include the external archives (old TB stuff)), and I
found that by topic many of the discussions could have taken
place on either of the lists (with the exception of the beta-
list)...
By ideal, there is a border
Hello Michael Disabato,
On or about Friday, January 17, 2003 at 10:59:37GMT -0600 (which
was 11:59 AM in the tropics where I live) Michael Disabato
inquired:
MD Better than that. I wiped the C drive and re-installed Win2K.
MD Thought it might be a conflict with Outlook, which I need for
MD work.
Mary-
File Transfer Protocol. It's a simple command-line interface to send
and receive files over the internet. There are nice GUI front ends to
make things easy so you don't have to remember the commands. You'd use
it, for example, to send files off to an ISP to maintain a web site.
Friday,
Could someone please explain what FTP is?
SMN FTP = File Transfer Protocol - typically, you would use FTP
SMN to transfer file(s) from one computer to another computer;
SMN http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci213976,00.html
Mary,
In practice, ftp is a program, just as TB
Hello Michael,
Friday, January 17, 2003, 12:59:37 PM, you wrote:
Friday, January 17, 2003, 6:58:00 AM, Daniel scribbled:
DR Have you tried restarting your system? Also, look in the WINNT\TEMP
Better than that. I wiped the C drive and re-installed Win2K. Thought
it might be a conflict with
Hello Mark,
Friday, January 17, 2003, 7:17:07 PM, you wrote:
File Transfer Protocol. It's a simple command-line interface to send
and receive files over the internet. There are nice GUI front ends to
make things easy so you don't have to remember the commands. You'd use
it, for example, to
Hello Mary,
Or else, define the abbreviations, remembering that they are not
communicating just with peers and friends, but with the entire
list--broad in range of background and in range of native languages.
You are very right. But it is completely understandable that, being
English the
Hello St !
On Friday, January 17, 2003, 4:36 PM, you wrote:
...
S FTP = File Transfer Protocol - typically, you would use FTP
S to transfer file(s) from one computer to another computer;
Then it makes sense in the context of the discussion whether HTML
would be a desirable feature in The
Hello Mark,
On Friday, January 17, 2003, 5:17 PM, you wrote:
M File Transfer Protocol. It's a simple command-line interface to send
M and receive files over the internet. There are nice GUI front ends to
M make things easy so you don't have to remember the commands. You'd use
M it, for example,
Hello Frank,
On Friday, January 17, 2003, 5:19 PM, you wrote:
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F In practice, ftp is a program, just as TB is. TB is really
F thebat.exe, and the ftp program that is packaged with
F windows is ftp.exe. ...
Okay. Thanks. This is new information to me!
F If you open a DOS window and type
More hidden Microsoft miracles. :)
Oh, Microsoft is a notorious borrower...
One world, one web, one program - Microsoft
Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer - Adolf Hitler
/ St
Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information:
Hello Miguel,
On Friday, January 17, 2003, 6:04 PM, you wrote:
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MB Or else, define the abbreviations ...
M ... But I don't think the solution is to not use some expressions or
M abbreviations, or explaining them each time. I believe the solution is
M not being shy and just asking when
You are very right. But it is completely understandable that, being
English the official language of the list, those whose native
language is English, or have a good knowledge of it, tend to forget
that there may be words or expressions some of us may not understand.
Oh, don't worry -
Mary-
Ah... not exactly.
FTP requires both a client and a server. If someone is running an ftp
server then you can connect (assuming that they have given you
permission) and send files to them or get files that they have placed
there for retrieval. It's not (thankfully) a
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