Mica Mijatovic writes:
> It didn't work for the shuttle.
It did work for the shuttle; but someone decided to skip a few steps.
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Anthony
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Roelof Otten writes:
> Whereas changing
>
> Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="UTF-8"
>
>
> into
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> made TB recognize the message as something encrypted with PGP. I don't
> think that's very odd, as I understand these matters PGP encrypted
Alexander S. Kunz writes:
> The average techsupp person has checklists to annoy callers who know whats
> going on... :)
The vast majority of callers to tech support don't know what they are
doing, and there's no way to tell which callers _do_ know what they are
doing. Not going through the check
Mary Bull writes:
> So why is this an annoyance to Anthony? Is he making a practice of
> viewing all his messages with F9?
I only looked with F9 to try to figure out why TB had not recognized the
PGP message in the message body and put a pushbutton on the message
window (usually it sees it and pu
Ian A. White writes:
> I think he wants to limit the number of steps back in the discussion
> in a message when replying without having to manually edit the quoted
> text.
Nope. See
http://www.atkielski.com/ref.txt
This is a copy of the message. Notice all the Reference lines. Now, TB
didn't
Mary Bull writes:
> If this is not what you mean, please explain further. What line in the
> headers are you referring to?
The "References:" header field. It consists of 29 lines with references
to all previous messages (via the back-and-forth replying I've been
doing with my correspondent). Ea
Roelof Otten writes:
> Can't imagine why that should be. The headers aren't encrypted, after
> all. Do you have any examples?
They aren't encrypted, but I thought that maybe the dozens of lines of
references in the header could be breaking something that parses the
message looking for PGP (the PG
I notice that the references are growing and growing in messages that I
exchange with other people via replies (I reply, he replies, I reply, he
replies). Is there any way to put an upper limit on the number of
references included in the headers for continuing replies like this?
I think it may be
Alexander S. Kunz writes:
> Pal, with statements that ridiculous I don't dare continuing this OT
> conversation, sorry. I mean... no, I don't mean... you haven't been there,
> so I'll just stop here... :-)
I used to do technical support, and that's a standard question, along
the lines of "have yo
Alexander S. Kunz writes:
> Uhm. I beg to differ, my experience is vastly different. HDD usage has
> *never* increased more during daily usage than with Win XP. My system
> partition (without additional programs - I have the program files on a
> different partition) for XP is 4GB; after installati
Michael Wilson writes:
> I was software QA. My job was to setup new systems and see what
> happened to the registry and temp files area after installing third
> party items. I was in several meetings where memos from Hard Drive
> comapnies were used by programmers to purposly not delete temp and o
I've noticed on a plain-text e-mail message I've received that the
second-level quoted text is maroon and bold, even though I had
previously set everything to plain black in the text editor for plain
text messages. I've only seen it on one message (not sure if other
messages met the criteria for se
Michael L. Wilson writes:
> I would like to speak a little about operating system stability and
> the Bat!. The Bat is written in a very high level language that does
> not touch deep operating system problems. Since the Bat! only works
> on Windows machines, people really need to look to their
Roelof Otten writes:
> What happens when you try to move the filter with the up and down
> arrows in the toolbar?
I haven't tried it. Next time I'll try that and see what happens. I
don't create new rules very often.
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Anthony
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MFPA writes:
> Good to hear. Looking forward to being able to use this feature reliably. I
> downloaded the latest version of TB! last night. I suspect I shall
> install and try it out soon.
I current have the client set to sign all of my messages to this list
(via folder templates), and it is wo
MFPA writes:
> I find that if I use TB!'s integrated support to encrypt and sign
> with PGP 8.1 the message is only sometimes sent, further attempts
> to sign or encrypt using the integrated support bring up Access
> Violation messages, and often I can no longer verify or decrypt
> using the integ
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I had this bug with the same version that you have right now
> I suggest you to upgrade to a more recent version of TB!
Uh, I only upgraded to this version six days ago. Do I have to upgrade
this product once a day, or what?
I've also noticed that this problem may be
When I create a new rule and try to move it with Alt and the mouse, if I
slip it downwards instead of upwards, I usually get an access violation,
like the message attached. Access violations then occur each time I try
to edit the filters, until I stop and restart TB. Nothing is corrupted
and ever
Two other questions on PGP in TB:
1. There's a macro and menu option for "Use OpenPGP," but exactly what
does this do? If I turn it off, it seems that PGP options don't work at
all. So if I'm not enabling OpenPGP, what good are the other options?
And conversely, if I'm using other PGP options, w
I rather like the idea of being able to sign messages with PGP in a
realtively transparent way using PGP/MIME, which TB 3.x supports very
nicely, but I'm wondering how well other e-mail clients support it. In
order to use it with any regularly (such as in templates), a fairly
large number of my co
Stuart Cuddy writes:
> How would you like it to work?
Well, since you ask: Ideally for me, this filter would allow me to
match some arbitrary field(s) in the message against entries in the
address book, potentially using regular expressions, and would allow me
to move messages that match to spec
Since nobody has stepped forward to clarify the details of how the known
filter works and it isn't documented anywhere that I can find, I can
only assume that it is top secret and not intended to actually be used.
Is this correct?
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Anthony
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Chris writes:
> I had that happen to me. I fixed it by upgrading to the latest
> release of the PGP software.
The current version works fine outside of TB, so I don't see any reason
to upgrade it. The same functions work correctly within PGP.
The problem arose after the PGP SDK crashed while TB
Anthony G. Atkielski writes:
> Actually the PGP SDK service seems to crash quite frequently whenever I
> use PGP functions in TB 3.0. It didn't do this in 2.x. And nothing
> else crashes it.
Further experimentation reveals that the machine must be rebooted once
the PGP SDK crash
Actually the PGP SDK service seems to crash quite frequently whenever I
use PGP functions in TB 3.0. It didn't do this in 2.x. And nothing
else crashes it.
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Anthony
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> This is a list rule and is non-negotiable:
Okay, bye.
Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Frank writes:
> This statement is naive and ignores the current state of the art in
> software development.
No, it's a statement from someone who has decades of experience in both
writing software and supporting it.
> It is impossible to make a software product that meets the huge and
> complex
Mogens writes:
> Filtering:
> Have you considered another filtering method such as the
> BayestIt! plugin that you can find here:
Not necessary. The multipart/alternatve filter is separating almost
100% of my spam. I think that very complex filters are overkill. After
all, I still look at the
Can I set up a template exclusively for replies to this list (messages
to the list are filtered into a specific folder)? If so, what's the
easiest way to duplicate the USENET convention of " writes"
preceding the quoted text, to identify the person on the list whom one
is quoting?
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Paul writes:
> ok, what DIDN'T work with it on auto, and what is it that now works??
Encrypt and Encrypt/Sign upon completion, in the Privacy options. (Sign
upon completion worked already, for some reason.)
Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using T
Marck writes:
> Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists
> of a , i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line.
> This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without
> the signature and list footers since everything below and including
> the sig delimiter is exclud
After two days of trying it out, I decided to purchase The Bat! The Bat
will replace Outlook Express as my primary e-mail client.
The reasons why I bought it:
1. Spam relief
The ability to set filters that look at message headers has _vastly_
improved my filtering of spam. Almost all the spam
Paul writes:
> what do we gain by changing the auto to off, or, conversely what do we
> lose by turning it off?
In my case, turning it explicitly off allows the PGP stuff to work,
whereas it does not work otherwise. Looks like a bug to me.
Curre
> The footer is added by the TBUDL list server, and so is not part of
> the message that is signed by PGP.
Ah, okay.
> Also...you don't have to manually change the PGP/MIME setting from
> "auto" to "off" each time in order to use PGP inline. You can just use
> the different "Privacy" menu options
> Soo... How on earth do I get TB! to at least make it easier than:
>
> 1. going into the key manager before I decide to compose a message
> 2. selecting the desired key as the new default
> 3. compose, sign, send the message
If you have different pass phrases for each key, try typing the pass
phr
> If I do that, while the message will be encrypted and/or signed, it
> will be inline, not PGP/MIME.
That suits me fine, as most of my correspondents can't handle PGP/MIME.
Of course, your requirements may be different.
I'd like to be able to force the option to be off by default for every
messa
> Hmmm. That sounds like the symptom of a system problem and PGP 8's
> installation fell victim to it.
No, that sounds like an application problem. In fact, it sounds like an
application that looks at only 32 bits for the available space.
File-system problems on NT-based Windows systems are extra
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
> Hmmm. I'm using XP Home, and while I seem to have no problem using
> the PGP/MIME option for signing clear text, I'm experiencing the same
> problem with both "encrypt" and "encrypt & sign" as Anthony is.
Try forcing PGP/MIME to "off" instead of "a
> The problem I had with version 8 was that when trying to install it
> would complain that it could not install a file because me disk was full.
> FYI there is all most 30GB free.
Try creating a 27 GB scratch file, then install the product. Once it is
installed (or fails to install, whichever),
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
> A dialog should appear for you to choose the key/s to encrypt to.
It does, but after I select a key and/or type my pass phrase, nothing
else happens. The message is not encrypted, and it is not sent.
After reading some other messages, I tried expe
> Why is it that encrypt and sign upon completion don't seem to work in
> 2.0.3?
Sorry, the version is 2.01.3 ... the one currently available for
download.
Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/T
Is there a way to define filters that will act on incoming mail from all
accounts at one, or must they be defined for each account? In the
latter case, what's the easiest way to copy filters from one account to
another (assuming there is a way at all to do this)?
Why is it that encrypt and sign upon completion don't seem to work in
2.0.3? I just downloaded this and I'm trying it out, and this is one of
the sticking points. When I set these options, I get the usual PGP
dialog upon pressing the Send button, but after entering my pass phrase,
nothing else ha
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