Wednesday, January 19, 2000, 6:14:29 AM, Thomas wrote:
Just thought of something: would it help if I telnet into that account
and type QUIT at the unix prompt? (This may sound like a silly
question)
No, different connection.
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Monday, January 17, 2000, 8:52:12 PM, Jast wrote:
- take hand off kb, grab for mouse (ca .5 sec, not much more than moving it
to PgUp on the keyboard)
Move hand to PgUp
- use scrollbar to move up 9 pages (usually faster than 9x PgUp, gets quicker
Monday, January 17, 2000, 10:18:28 PM, Januk wrote:
Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We've gone over this, Allie. At first glance that is going to the right
place because of TB!'s broken behavior, configurable or not.
Ok, but why would you *intentionally* put the wrong reply-to in your
his
is emulating Eudora's /very/ broken behavior and causes problems in the long
run.
Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] (by way of someschmuck "[EMAIL PROTECTED]")
(by way of fartknocker "[EMAIL PROTECTED]") (by way of knifewooble
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]") (by way of gaga &q
Monday, January 17, 2000, 11:49:10 PM, Januk wrote:
Of course now I can not reproduce the bug if I try. sigh
From shouldn't be anything special, should it?
Yes, it is. Why the extra ? You're server is using the mailbox format
which uses "^From " as the marker between text (^ is regex for
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 1:02:28 AM, Oleg wrote:
I don't need excellent editor for editing mail. I am quite happy with
mediocre one. The main thing I want from it -- speed.
That is you. You're not me and, well, the other 6 billion people on this
planet.
--
Steve C. Lamb
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 1:15:11 AM, Marck wrote:
No - so that you can begin to understand the power of the virtual
space for plain text formatting.
With space cansome things.
virtual you do interesting
Without it - no possibility.
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 1:41:55 AM, Oleg wrote:
It is just my personal opinion said by the way that adding some kind of a
hook for external editor to TB! will not save time to RITlabs to be more
concentrated on mail-specific functions.
Then you haven't thought it through.
Add
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 5:10:22 AM, Grant wrote:
I'm a long time user of Agent, and have to admit that this is the
first program to come along in _years_ that turned my head at all! I
really like the functionality of the Bat. However, mail is probably
only 1/4 of my needs. The other 3/4 is
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 7:38:45 AM, Thomas wrote:
Make a constructive suggestion. ;-)
I did. Encouraging broken behavior is not to be done, period. That is
broken behavior. By using it you cause problems. By not using it you don't
cause problems. That is constructive.
--
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 10:55:44 AM, Michael wrote:
Does any of the experts here have an idea what's going on and what I can
do about that? Shouldn't they also in Indonesia be aware of the new DNS
data?
Depends on the expire time on the zone file. If it is set to a week with,
say, a
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 10:40:09 AM, Marck wrote:
Of course the external editor option looks more attractive all the time.
OF course it does. You'd think with Unix folks building on pushing 30
years of computing experience they'd get a few things right. I still find it
amusing that a
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 1:17:45 PM, Roel wrote:
all the 'crap' is removed :-) don't worry about it: it isn't there...
I can think of one that is there. One that they had to put a special case
in just for all of this foofie cursor play. ;)
TP I agree with Steve. If I put four spaces
Monday, January 17, 2000, 9:26:45 AM, Thomas wrote:
Semantic difference. What I meant is the client default, of course.
Then say that. My client is TB!, not Thomas Fernandez. ;P
I don't think so. Both are not regulated by the RFC's or whereever,
and it is only common agreemens -
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 1:16:58 PM, Grant wrote:
No, not really.
Use Outlook, it does both. Agent does both, from what I hear. I'd much
rather prefer to keep this specialized client specialized since it is so
damned hard to find a good specialized client in this madness to include
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 3:40:33 PM, Tom wrote:
...that other programs prompt is not at issue.
If one is trying to argue based on convention alone, it is. What others
do is what dictates convention.
What if the solution was to NOT prompt, but to offer an easy way to change
to other
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 4:44:18 PM, Gary wrote:
taskbar, I would like the ability to right click on the TB! tab, while
Options / Minimize to Tray
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Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 5:38:48 PM, Tom wrote:
So, then, on the arguement that you cite and seem to support, what are
your thoughts of adding NNTP support to The Bat!?
We've discussed it at length.
Certainly that seems like a slightly larger proposition than a few
checkboxes in the
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 5:20:05 PM, Marck wrote:
SL *Steve then points out that in some editors that isn't needed
SL since it retains the column that the cursor was last in, even on
SL short lines, even if it positions the cursor on column 1 for the
SL one line between.* :)
Ah - so
Friday, January 14, 2000, 5:07:15 PM, Allie wrote:
Well, technically, if I were to go along with you, the editor should
not place anything in the header of replies because one, it's assuming
that you wish to use the reply to address (duh) and two, it's wrongfully
assuming that you'll wish
Friday, January 14, 2000, 6:39:05 PM, Jast wrote:
A checkbox option that should be a macro...
I think *all* message-specific options should be macros because this
allows for better automation per template-file-inclusion - you won't
have to go through a dozen folder checkbox options and
Friday, January 14, 2000, 7:17:54 PM, Thomas wrote:
How about following conventions in the mailing culture being the
reason why? ;-) Here is what I mean (and I am not as good in wording
as you are):
Doing so would dictate that the Reply-to is not set 1/2 the time. :P
1.) Reply-to means
Saturday, January 15, 2000, 1:58:51 AM, Oleg wrote:
At least I have need in preview when killing mail. The preview in TB! is
based on the editor. Or should there be external message viewer also?
It isn't based on the editor. It is the other way around. The preview is
just a viewing
Saturday, January 15, 2000, 3:51:02 AM, Oleg wrote:
That is almost exactly what I mean all this time. Just one more point. Steve
states that if there will bie an option of using an external editor RitLabs
will have more time to concentrate on mail-oriented features of TB! I still
think that
Saturday, January 15, 2000, 7:57:02 AM, Allie wrote:
Just out of curiosity, I had a look around and cannot seem to find an
editor that will work as well as TB!'s with respect to formatting and
reflowing *quoted* text. Boxer 99 comes very close and of course is
superior at formatting
Saturday, January 15, 2000, 8:06:40 AM, Allie wrote:
Yes, this different slant that different editors tend to be better at
editing for different tasks, tends deviate from the strength in Steve's
point. A single editor ideal for *all* tasks is a less likely scenario than
a single editor for
Monday, January 17, 2000, 1:04:03 AM, Allie wrote:
Move your eyes up to the To: field and verify the address before
sending (that's if either address mean anything to you in the first
place). Problem solved. :
Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We've gone over this, Allie
Monday, January 17, 2000, 1:04:22 AM, Thomas wrote:
But this is exactly the point: I should reply to the list, that's why
the list server replaces you original reply-to with the list address.
Uhm, no. *YOU* should reply to the destination that is fitting the
content of the message at
Monday, January 17, 2000, 1:04:50 AM, Jast wrote:
This way you can easily see what *does* happen.
Assuming your entire template fits in the edit box, which they rarely, if
ever do. The problem here is that if something is a boolean in nature why
have %SINGLERE when you can have a checkbox
Monday, January 17, 2000, 2:14:25 AM, Jast wrote:
Luckily TB editor will allow you to add selection on both ends of a
selection block (with Shift+mouseclick where you want it) so you won't have
to go the full procedure when you forgot a line...
Mouse text editing. You have tentacles, do
Monday, January 17, 2000, 6:52:51 AM, Oleg wrote:
Really? They at least share the code for displaying message and cursor
movement and search. Only editing itself disabled while viewing message.
Right. Considering the viewer is the lesser of the two objects, which do
you think is based on
Monday, January 17, 2000, 8:23:14 AM, Roel wrote:
just a tip: don't trust dreamweaver for cross-browser scripting...
it often uses way more code than necesarry or it just doesn't work...
*arched brow* Dreamweaver or FP2k. Hmmm, I think the choice is clear
that considering Dreamweaver
On Tue, Jan 18, 2000 at 01:05:19AM +, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote:
grumblemumble Might I humbly suggest you use TB as an e-mail
client a while longer. The editor is one thing that suddenly leaps out as
being very well suited to the job it does for the /type of
information/ it
Monday, January 17, 2000, 7:34:11 PM, Thomas wrote:
I also like them; but you can get rid of them by going into
Account/Properties/Templates/Reply. You have six choices of how you
want the quotes to be shown.
Steve Lamb
You have 6 choices on how you want the quotes to be shown
Friday, January 14, 2000, 12:40:39 AM, Allie wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 19:19:07 -0800, Januk Aggarwal wrote:
To some degree you are most certainly correct, but I think it depends
on the task. For example, if the only time you ever do any ASCII
text editing is for e-mail
Aaah, and
Friday, January 14, 2000, 2:51:45 AM, Allie wrote:
requirements of computing would be to furnish oneself with a decent ASCII
editor that may be used with all these application types. Perhaps, windows
would come packaged with an ASCII editor better than notepad. :))
I think you hit upon
Friday, January 14, 2000, 6:12:07 AM, Marck wrote:
CJT But Claudius, [snip] ...
Whoa Neddy!
I thought it was "Nelly"? :/
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Friday, January 14, 2000, 8:17:33 AM, Clemens wrote:
nono, cause the whole mail size of this directory was TO big. And I
don't think you can comrpess 55MB to 340K ^^ and 54 mails each about
2-20K can never need 55MB!!
Was it the inbox? You are aware that any message you ever got and
Friday, January 14, 2000, 2:33:18 AM, Oleg wrote:
Editing has.
Nope. One does not need to edit mail to send/received/file/sort/kill
mail. Before anyone gets any ideas about "send", bounce (er, redirect, damned
non-standard terminology) a message to someone. Whoa, ya just sent a message
Is there ever a changelog to go with the beta versions?
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ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls.
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Friday, January 14, 2000, 1:35:54 PM, Andrew wrote:
Oh, Steve. I don't believe my eyes - you propose to implement a
prompt?! :) So that the program asks one more silly question each time
I reply...
Of course. How many times have I said the program shouldn't assume?
Wouldn't it be an
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Friday, January 14, 2000, 2:06:18 PM, Nick wrote:
But is really wrong to assume you want to reply to the Reply to:
address unless you specify differently?
IMHO, yes. I can play a LOT of fun games with you with reply-tos. Since
most people
Friday, January 14, 2000, 2:35:00 PM, Nick wrote:
Okay, I don't know who you are or what you did with Steve but you have
about 10 minutes to get out of there before I call the police!!!
Hey, I signed that one bucko. :P
Are you advocating a feature to help out newbies at the cost of
Friday, January 14, 2000, 2:35:00 PM, Nick wrote:
peek and make sure it right. The newbies can do this while checking to
make sure the subject is filled in. ;)
BTW, just wanted to add that this isn't as easy as it seems. I mean, at a
glace, who is this message being sent to? Nick Danger.
is going to Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED].
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ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls
Friday, January 14, 2000, 3:49:57 PM, Allie wrote:
A toolbar button perhaps? :) I use this feature a lot more than reply
to all and yet it's deep within a menu if you wish to invoke it with a
mouse.
Personally I like the drop down buttons like on the send/check mail
buttons. I'm not
Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 7:50:14 PM, Nick wrote:
out AOL as one of them, and I know that Eudora and MS Outlook Programs do
not, while Agent and OE do, so I don't know why some do, and some don't.
Those that don't have CP if needed. I fail to see why we should mangle
our sigs for the
Thursday, January 13, 2000, 1:54:16 AM, Andrew wrote:
The other thing you learn from him is why Unix got stomped all over by
Microsoft products. Steve has a pure Unix mindset: there is One Right
Way to understand anything, and anyone who can't share it, even after
being shouted at, is a
Thursday, January 13, 2000, 1:26:27 AM, Oleg wrote:
Because it's an argument for a single tool: TheBat! for all tasks
regarding mail management.
^^
Spell checking and editing don't fall under management.
It has nothing to do with the problem we are
Thursday, January 13, 2000, 2:30:03 AM, Marck wrote:
Anyway - where does it stop? ActiveX? ShockWave? CGI? JavaScript?
VBScript? All perfectly valid HTML and transmittable in a mail
document like any image. Let browsers browse and let MUA manage mail.
KISS.
[good heavens,
Thursday, January 13, 2000, 6:49:35 AM, Alex wrote:
Anotherworkaround--justsearchforstringlike
"sdafadfkldjakladjfkdjfklsfjkljlasfjslfd" which should NOT present in
message ;-))
Whoa, there it is. :P
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Thursday, January 13, 2000, 7:37:38 AM, Nick wrote:
I agree with you to some extent Steve, but I find your response puzzling, as
you seem to be one that strongly professes the use of Internet Standards.
Yup.
In researching the subject a little, I find that RFC 2368 (at least my
Thursday, January 13, 2000, 9:01:36 AM, Nick wrote:
Good post Steve... I'm finally beginning to see your point on using an
external editor. :o) However, what about us that are not comfortable with
some of the Unix style editors you mention.
Which is perfectly understandable. Until I
Thursday, January 13, 2000, 9:08:40 AM, tracer wrote:
didnt have..). Ok, I had the write the things but it made life so much
easier to create standards(g)
Oh, standards are a good thing, as long as they are open. Microsoft often
doesn't open its standards, doesn't maintain the standards
Thursday, January 13, 2000, 9:14:17 AM, tracer wrote:
Ok, maybe you can explain it, whats the use of a different colour
scheme where you cannot see the colours???
And why is it called High colour if it hasnt got any (g)
No clue. It changed with the new icon set some company designed for
Thursday, January 13, 2000, 9:15:03 AM, Angel wrote:
maling lists et al. because of the reason stated above: hitting Reply or
Reply-To for a "private" reply would send it to the entire list.
Personally this is a small nigglet, IMHO, with TB!. There have been tons
of arguments over whether
Thursday, January 13, 2000, 9:29:02 AM, Alex wrote:
Not really. I do remove all "Received:" fields (and others like
"X-List-Command:", "X-MSMail-Priority:", "X-Resent-To:", etc.) from my
mail, because it takes too much space (sometimes more that half of
message). So it will not
Thursday, January 13, 2000, 9:57:38 AM, Januk wrote:
Just to note, I'm reading this using Netscape Communicator under Unix at
University, and only the address using mailto: is recognized. Just adding to
list of annoying e-mail clients. :)
Well, what do you expect from a web browser? :)
Thursday, January 13, 2000, 10:25:48 AM, tracer wrote:
Ok, Stefan... a minor cosmetic bug (g)
V, not F. Of course my rendering of my name in Esperanto is Stefan so I
guess I can live with it. ;)
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ICQ:
Thursday, January 13, 2000, 10:34:43 AM, Alex wrote:
SL This is your choice and does not invalidate the fact that messages, as
SL they come in, do have those headers and thus that letter.
Sorry, but it does mean! All header are removed before message comes
to TB.
... Explain. Might
Thursday, January 13, 2000, 12:03:54 PM, Alexander wrote:
... but right now the only e-mail client that it the way you (and me;-))
consider optimal is Pegasus AFAIK;-)
PMMail, Pine, Mutt
OTOH, I do not think this extra "which address would you use?" dialogue is a
elegant deceision at
Thursday, January 13, 2000, 12:19:13 PM, Roel wrote:
sorry, i meant control-f4, *not* shift-f4
Wow, never knew that was there. Would be better to have that as a
pulldown on the button than in the "special" menu.
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Thursday, January 13, 2000, 12:38:05 PM, Allie wrote:
Most windows based editors for these application types are quite basic and
remarkably consistent in how they function.
[snip-o-rama]
[portion about all applications shipping robust editors]
It would be *then*, that people would be
Thursday, January 13, 2000, 1:11:27 PM, Alex wrote:
SL ... Explain. Might you actually be doing some filtering on server side?
Not really on server side, just between server and TB!.
Again, explain.
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Thursday, January 13, 2000, 2:38:10 PM, Januk wrote:
As many as are out there, until you find something that does *exactly*
what you need. I installed heaps of software when I upgraded my
computer, simply because I didn't know what would work best.
Exactly. More is better. Separate
Thursday, January 13, 2000, 2:48:18 PM, Allie wrote:
begin speculation I think the deviation from your more ideal
paradigm is based on the fact that most windows based editors don't
provide advanced e-mail type editing functions especially with respect to
quoting. Also, an integrated
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 7:28:19 PM, John wrote:
I often alter these headers in the middle of message composition. This
is convenient to do with a built-in (or tightly coupled) editor, less
so with a completely external editor.
Conceded. OTOH, I, more often than not, want to pipe text
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 9:14:06 PM, tracer wrote:
Steve, any idea what editors you have seen under windows which might
do the job as external editors for the Bat??
Well, an editor which just edits plain text would work. As I've said, my
preference is for vim which is really a unix[1]
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 11:50:36 PM, tracer wrote:
why a bad idea?
Because of the current internet climate and the whole design behind the
mail system and how SMTP servers fit into it.
Technically, a lot of ISPs now will not accept port 25 connections from
dynamic IP space. Some
Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 1:37:36 AM, Stefan wrote:
OK, you'll see it :-)
There's much more I'd rather see. However, I've made that abundantly
clear over the past few months.
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ICQ: 5107343
Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 2:27:53 AM, Oleg wrote:
It can do any task at hand depending on user skills even with no need
to change configuration. Just visit Kizhi for an example.
Then why hold it up as an argument against a single tool? :P
I didn't say it's all impossible. I just
Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 7:33:16 AM, Claudius wrote:
They serve well for people receiving/sending less than 10 emails/day
and that is why they are email clients that cover the basics.
That's fine, there are plenty of clients out there that cover it. We
don't need to dumb down another
Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 7:45:46 AM, Claudius wrote:
So what? You'd change this, RITLABS doesn't, maybe it is easy to
change, but is it really important?
Yes. Conforming to the standards of the interface is important so people
can effectively use the product without thinking about it.
Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 8:09:19 AM, Claudius wrote:
There are different ways to communicate, to write emails, to quote. I
quote the way I want to. I exchange emails with enough people from
enough countries with enough experience that I decide how to quote in
what situation.
Then
Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 2:42:55 PM, Keith wrote:
address without the prefix? (In other words, won't
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" work as well as "mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" and be
less confusing to non-techies?)
Yes. :)
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Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 3:16:28 PM, Allie wrote:
My NTWS install here is stable without my trying. :)
OK, now play the latest games on NT. :P
I use NoteTab Pro since my editing needs increased beyond the realms
of NotePad. vbg NoteTab Pro is certainly no piece of cake.
Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 3:50:36 PM, Alexander wrote:
To which one? You definitely *can* if your editor is WinEdt. Actually, I *do*
use it with Pegasus for composing lengthy messages with TeX stuff.
Normal as in an editor which accepts a filename to edit.
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Steve C. Lamb
Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 3:48:40 PM, Alexander wrote:
Right, looked at it. I dunno, but I like ACDeeSee's "browser" mode. I
There's almost the same in PMView: File--Open and you're there;-)
"Almost" is being kind, don't you think? In ACDeeSee I turn off all but
the "thumbnail"
Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 4:03:28 PM, Alexander wrote:
WinEdt is "normal", then;-)
Your point? The statement was that if you program for DDE that is *all*
one needs to do. This, to me, seems like a naive statement as I'm sure all
editors do not support DDE. I doubt that vim supports
quite annoying," Steve later lectured. "You're the one trying to
break the conventions and say there aren't any where there are. Support your
statements."
SL The convention of the culture that you have entered. I cannot believe I
SL still have to argue over this with every newbie
Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 4:38:36 PM, Marck wrote:
On 13 January 2000 at 16:29:28 GMT -0800 (which was 00:29 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points:
It's DEAD HORSE time guys! Angel is quite right - take it off list
please.
Upon rereading my last message
Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 5:15:11 PM, Allie wrote:
Glad to see you're finally quoting correctly. Amazingly, you're learning.
Forte' Agent, Becky, Poco Mail, PMMail, MR2/ICE, Post Road Mailer,
Transoft Mail, and other less worthwhile e-mail clients that I've tried
all support
Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 5:35:25 PM, Alexander wrote:
I believe it's normal, if you don't think so, it's your problem.
Furthermore, if your favourite vim doesn't support DDE, it's another *your*
problem (and problem of other vim users under Windoze)...
Let's compare. Which has been
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 12:02:37 AM, Ralf wrote:
More threaded? :-) Doesn't any reply to a news or mail message automatically
create a or add to a thread?
No. There are a lot of email applications which do not use References and
In-Reply-To. Most notably the web based email readers
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 12:10:21 AM, Ralf wrote:
Why the heck (sorry) is that "*VERY* bad"?? That's something very
useful, IMHO.
Because it will either be one of two varieties.
1: Click on it and scan.
This is bad because it is an added step that the user could screw up,
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 12:37:59 AM, Thomas wrote:
And here is the stupid question: what is "scoring"?
Scoring is a filtering system (hush and listen, I know TB! has filtering)
whereby the filters assign a score to a newsgroup article based on the rules
provided in the score. You can
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 12:44:38 AM, Oleg wrote:
There is editing and editing. When people will realize that editing message,
editing program, editing HTML, editing presentation, editing newspaper are
different tasks, they will not want one editor for everything.
I do realize they are
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 1:00:08 AM, Januk wrote:
Off Topic Question:
Does anyone using Xnews know if and how you can download messages to
read off-line?
No. See its manual.
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ICQ: 5107343
Monday, January 10, 2000, 12:09:35 PM, Christopher wrote:
I agree -- I love the way it is now in Opera -- one button for my WWW
browser on the taskbar, instead of plenty. How would it look, if we
had separate window and taskbar button for every account in TB? That's
more or less the
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 2:21:32 AM, Leif wrote:
Steve, can you read? Which part of taking this off-line did you not
understand?
The part where you didn't declare it a dead horse until now. *YOU* took
it offline and ended your remarks. I countered with a final rebuttal.
--
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 2:34:17 AM, Stefan wrote:
Thank you for such a comprehensive explanation. I wonder why we did
not implement this thing before :-) This thing must be very useful
for mailing list as well...
One would think until you try to wrestle with the idea of how to
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 3:53:51 AM, Claudius wrote:
Then your conclusion will be: do not try to make complex software.
Doesn't work for me.
No. My conclusion is given the bugs and inconsistencies that still
persist in the 1.x series I don't have much faith that RITLABS can move to a
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 3:58:38 AM, Claudius wrote:
Outlook would do. Either way, TheBat! is not *just* for
fetch/send/store/search mail.
No, and that is the problem. An email client should be just for that.
Outlook would not do because it is not an email client by any stretch of the
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 5:14:26 AM, John wrote:
Or auto-completion of header lines, integration of the Address Book
into header lines.
Incorrect, these are still a part of TB! and are editable there. See
PMMail.
Another point: sending a freshly composed email now becomes a two-stage
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 5:43:55 AM, Oleg wrote:
Why do carpenters need other tools than bench axe? Underlying concept
to most of those is the same: wood.
A bench axe cannot change configuration to suit the task at hand. A
program can be configured for the task at hand. Apples and
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 9:33:52 AM, Allie wrote:
Agreed. PMMail still takes responsibility for the headers etc. The
editor only does the message body itself. What about templates though
Steve? How will that be dealt with?
Separate out TB! from its editor. Which is generating
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 9:57:26 AM, Thomas wrote:
That's exactly what I meant, not only macro results, butwhole
tempaltes including quotes.
Exactly. All of that text is generated by the core program before it is
passed into the internal editor's buffer. Replace "buffer" with temp file
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 10:57:24 AM, Thomas wrote:
I agree with this. It will only your system down. Supposing you have
an active virus-scanner running anyway, which you should. :-)
s/only your/only slow your/gi;# :)
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Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 10:55:44 AM, George wrote:
Fetching and sending mail could be done using external dedicated program.
For the convinience of users it could be great to implement a way to
communicate with the mail server.
Actually, it is done by external dedicated programs.
Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 11:03:57 AM, Thomas wrote:
GMM So mail reading means at least you should have a way to
GMM fetch/read/write/send/organize/search mail.
You *are* describing Outlook here.
No. Outlook also has newsreading, a contact list, a to do list, a day
planner, a kitchen
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