On 02 March 2002 at 15:47 Miguel wrote:
My point, in case I didn't make it clear, is that everything in a
message adds up to it's final footprint and not just secure
signatures. And that all redundant and/or unnecessary information
is, from my point of view, a waste. That is why I used the
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Hi Alastair,
On 03 March 2002 at 21:07:35 + Alastair Scott wrote in
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I'm afraid things are going the opposite way - try, for example,
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This topic went way off / too long and I have already pronounced it
dead.
Hello Miguel!
On Saturday, March 2, 2002 at 11:43:35 AM you wrote:
I may be quite dumb but, aside of wasting bandwidth and filling up
everybody's mailboxes and folders, I don't see the purpose of sending
S/MIME or PGP signed messages to a list like this one. Am I missing
something?
There
Hi Dierk,
There has been quite a discussion in the last year about secure
signing or not.
I missed it, I joined this list about a month ago.
Without going into the details, let me just say that I am all for
it.
That may be my problem, that I don't understand the benefits of secure
signing
Hello Miguel!
On Saturday, March 2, 2002 at 1:38:26 PM you wrote:
I missed it, I joined this list about a month ago.
Luckily the archives are quite good. ;-)
That may be my problem, that I don't understand the benefits of secure
signing in general, and for a list like this in particular. I
Hi Dierk,
I missed it, I joined this list about a month ago.
Luckily the archives are quite good. ;-)
Yes, I know they quite good. But I don't have the time now.
More or less the same as signing an ordinary letter or contract.
Understand. I can understand that to sign a contract you need
On Sat, 2 Mar 2002 16:47:20 +0100
Miguel A. Urech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I like the (various) intros in messages, although I use the pure,
short, informational one only.
I don't mind the intros themselves. Although I hardly really pay
attention to any of them, some of them are funny.
Hi Syafril,
More foot print means what ?
More bytes than needed. Longer transmission time no matter how fast it
is; more storage space required; more time needed for backups; more
time when doing searches on the message base; more... everything.
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Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial
Hello Miguel A. Urech,
On Saturday, March 02 2002 at 07:47 AM PDT, you wrote:
Right. But they do add to the footprint of the message, don't they?
That's my point.
Not to an appreciable amount using PGP or GPG, but certainly with S/MIME
because every signed message includes the Public Key as
On Sat, 2 Mar 2002 18:05:20 +0100
Miguel A. Urech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
More foot print means what ?
More bytes than needed. Longer transmission time no matter how fast it
is; more storage space required; more time needed for backups; more
time when doing searches on the message base;
Hi Syafril,
You can set kill filter to restrict POP msg size, set it as lower as you wish, then
you
will get...nothing :-)
No, I won't do that. But I wish I could set up a filter to just
extract _significant_ text out of messages and leave all superfluous
and redundant stuff out.
I don't
Pete,
Personal mails, of course, are a totally different thing.
Forgot to say that I agree with this. Same as with business or company
email.
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Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
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Hello Pete,
02. marec 2002, 20:25:26, you wrote:
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P posts here saying well said. Yes, there are mailing-lists like that
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I've seen that, but it's not the worst - some people not only that
they send in HTML, but they also use images for background - nothing
like a How do I do
Syafril,
You forget the most important (IMO) issue: Unneccessary intros,
felicitations, quoting, cookies and sigs simply make the actual
message content harder to find, slower to read and more difficult to
comprehend. Especially on high volume mailing-lists, such as this,
every
Hello Ian,
Saturday, March 2, 2002, 10:17:49 PM, you wrote:
IP Especially on high volume mailing-lists, such as this, every
IP unneccessary byte makes the list just a little less useful or
IP enjoyable.
This says it all, really. Thank you Ian for those words.
And thanks Miguel and Jernej :-)
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Hi Jernej,
On 02 March 2002 at 20:51:29 +0100 (which was 19:51 where I live)
Jernej Simoni wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
complete message quoted below and in HTML...
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This topic has gone way off / too long and I am
Hi Mark,
This topic has gone way off / too long and I am forced to pronounce
it dead.
You are not being fair here Mark. We are talking about this list and
the noise in it. Why what we have to say is way off and too long
and the unnecessary introductions, long signatures and all the PGP
stuff
It was foretold that on 2-3-2002 @ 21:20:43 GMT+ (which was 22:20
where I live) Marck D Pearlstone wrote and spread these wise comments
on DEAD HORSE (was Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a
message)):
complete message quoted below and in HTML...
MDP moderator
MDP This topic
Hi Luc,
It was foretold that on 2-3-2002 @ 21:20:43 GMT+ (which was 22:20
where I live) Marck D Pearlstone wrote and spread these wise comments
on DEAD HORSE (was Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a
message)):
Luc and Mark, isn't this completely unnecessary and way
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Hi Luc,
On 02 March 2002 at 23:33:16 +0100 (which was 22:33 where I live) Luc
wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
No, _thank you_ Marck :-)
Now this is *s* ironic and you're gonna make me feel real bad, I
know, but Luc? Your sig ahem
It was foretold that on 3-3-2002 @ 23:03:52 GMT+ (which was 0:03
where I live) Marck D Pearlstone wrote and spread these wise comments
on DEAD HORSE (was Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a
message)):
MDP Now this is *s* ironic and you're gonna make me feel real bad, I
MDP
It was foretold that on 2-3-2002 @ 23:47:39 GMT+0100 (which was 23:47
where I live) Miguel A. Urech wrote and spread these wise comments on
DEAD HORSE (was Signatures on mailing lists (was: TB won't open a
message)):
MAU Luc and Mark, isn't this completely unnecessary and way off-topic of
MAU
Hi Miguel,
Saturday, March 2, 2002, 6:54:03 PM, you wrote:
Miguel A. Urech To me, if something is superfluous, it is superfluous whether is is
Miguel A. Urech one or umpteen bytes long.
Well that's fine ... for you! I actually like to see peoples sig,
especially on a List like this where (I
Hi Luc,
Marck may have to ban me for replying, but I'll take the risk.
You said: (wait, was it really you? Maybe not, as you are not using
PGP now I can't be sure). Anyway, I think it was you who said:
This tread brings up no solutions or tips on a TB! problem, it just
takes up space on the
On Sat, 2 Mar 2002 19:39:28 +0100
Miguel A. Urech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can set kill filter to restrict POP msg size, set it as lower as
you wish, then you will get...nothing :-)
No, I won't do that. But I wish I could set up a filter to just
extract _significant_ text out of
On Sat, 2 Mar 2002 21:17:49 +0100
Ian Petersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You forget the most important (IMO) issue: Unneccessary intros,
felicitations, quoting, cookies and sigs simply make the actual
message content harder to find, slower to read and more difficult to
comprehend.
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