Hello Marck,
Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 1:14:24 AM, you wrote:
@22-Dec-2003, 18:29 -0500 (22-Dec 23:29 UK time) rich gregory [RG]
in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to jwayne:
j ... the Ctrl-shift-left arrow keeps everything highlighted and
j puts the cursor at the beginning of the field.
RG
Hello Simon,
On Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 1:41:49 AM, you wrote:
The benefit of using an excellent client like TB! is that it ISN'T
always completely 'mainstream', and so it does require users to learn
how to use some of it's many useful features. And TB! is rich in
features,
Hello Jurgen,
Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 3:28:06 AM, you wrote:
j ... the Ctrl-shift-left arrow keeps everything highlighted and
j puts the cursor at the beginning of the field.
And, I observe that it is at the end. Am I missing something?
well, I would also say it's unprofessional, and I
Hello Edgar,
Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 4:51:04 AM, you wrote:
Although the help here in this group is great, It should not need
to exist. There should be a good help system. Companies do not
have the time to read loads of mailing list to find out how the
e-mail client works.
Unfortunately,
On Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 6:12:08 AM, Daniel Rail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DR Hello Jurgen,
DR Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 3:28:06 AM, you wrote:
j ... the Ctrl-shift-left arrow keeps everything highlighted and
j puts the cursor at the beginning of the field.
DR And, I observe that it is
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Hello Edgar,
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:51:04 +0100 your time, you said:
E Although the help here in this group is great, It should not need
E to exist.
Hmmm, well I think that is a romantic notion myself. So these types of
support systems [this
Jwayne, [J] wrote:
J Ironic that they'd implement this important feature only in the HTML
J editor when TB users are the most anti-HTML for email crowd around!
I think that MicroEd, including both alternative editors were not
written from scratch. They're grounded on established code for the
Simon, [S] wrote:
S As I said, TB! has faults but people on this list usually attempt to
S work around them until the faults have been rectified.
This is it. :) With software, you almost always have to make concessions
in the form of work-arounds or just doing without a particular feature.
TB!
Hello jwayne,
Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 8:20:44 AM, you wrote:
j ... the Ctrl-shift-left arrow keeps everything highlighted and
j puts the cursor at the beginning of the field.
DR And, I observe that it is at the end. Am I missing something?
Yep. Try it again, comparing how it works in a
Hello Allie,
On Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 1:46:55 PM, you wrote:
Finally, the worse thing one can do, is to stubbornly insist that the
new application do *everything* the same way the old application did.
That's true, but one could insist on that the new application
does *everything* it is
Hello Simon,
On Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 1:30:21 PM, you wrote:
shortcomings...not that that justifies it of course. However, I don't
believe for a moment that a better help file system would make this
list redundant. Not a chance of it! This list is invaluable, and will
continue to
On Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 8:49:51 AM, Daniel Rail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DR Hello jwayne,
DR Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 8:20:44 AM, you wrote:
j ... the Ctrl-shift-left arrow keeps everything highlighted and
j puts the cursor at the beginning of the field.
DR And, I observe that it is
Edgar-
Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 12:51:04 AM, you wrote:
E Although the help here in this group is great, It should not need
E to exist. There should be a good help system. Companies do not
Of course, if a good help system were a prerequisite then nobody would
buy any MS products. The
Hello Mark,
On Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 5:18:16 PM, you wrote:
Of course, if a good help system were a prerequisite then nobody would
buy any MS products. The built-in help system is certainly one of TB's
weaker points, but the day TB comes out with one of those damn talking
paper clips,
On Tuesday, December 23, 2003 at 10:48:30 AM, jwayne wrote in the
message 2.0 Underwhelmed...
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
1) Cursor position: Ctrl-Shift-Left should move the cursor word by
word to the left, not move immediately to the beginning of the text
While selecting at the same time. To just
Has anyone played with a 5-button mouse (for example, the Microsoft
IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0) while using The Bat!? I was in the message
list and happened to hit the back button. The message one prior to the
one I was reading was selected! Then I hit the forward button. The
message I was just
Hallo TBUDL,
I am new to the Bat! and to this list. My first and only message is
from last week Monday. I like to let you all know, that I am
overwhelmed by the program. And furthermore I am thrilled by this
tbudl and tbnludl (that´s the Dutch version). I hope I will learn much
more from you all.
Hello jwayne,
Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 11:48:30 AM, you wrote:
No, it _doesn't_ work as it should. There are basically two
problems with the implementation as is:
1) Cursor position: Ctrl-Shift-Left should move the cursor word by word
to the left, not move immediately to the
Hi Henk,
on Tue, 23 Dec 2003 18:43:59 +0100GMT (23.12.03, 18:43 +0100GMT here),
you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :
HdB I am new to the Bat! and to this list. My first and only message is
HdB from last week Monday. I like to let you all know, that I am
HdB overwhelmed by the program. And
Hello,
Unless I am missing something, using Message-Re-send doesn't
store the time and date of re-sending.
If you send a message, and then don't get a response (perhaps because
some mail server lost the message), and then use Message-Re-send to
send another copy, it does put another copy of
Hello Henk,
On Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 6:43:59 PM, you wrote:
Hallo TBUDL,
I am thrilled by this tbudl and tbnludl (that´s the Dutch
version). I hope I will learn much more from you all.
TBNLUDL?
Do you have some links to join and the home site?
--
Cheers,
Edgar
Communicating with
Hello George,
On Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 5:52:23 AM, you wrote:
Add the macro:
%ModifyOnce(To)
to your template before you set the To field. That should prevent TB!
from overwriting your changes to that field when it reevaluates the
template. That macro was added in 2.00.7.
Is there
Hello Edgar,
Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 7:43:59 PM, you wrote:
E TBNLUDL?
E Do you have some links to join and the home site?
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/lists.html
(general Dutch list)
No site, so far I know.
--
Best regards,
Jos
Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build
Edgar wrote:
Is there a way to put more then one header in the macro?
Something like %ModifyOnce(To, BCC, Subject)
Yes, though I'm not sure of the syntax. I suspect with multiple fields
you have to enclose each field name in delimiters (e.g., quotes) like:
%ModifyOnce(To, BCC, Subject)
Like
Hello Jos,
On Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 8:43:33 PM, you wrote:
E Do you have some links to join and the home site?
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/lists.html
(general Dutch list)
I'm getting this:
+ General Dutch list
+ List for discussing the Dutch translation
(pre-releases of the
Hi Edgar
On 23 Dec 2003 21:02:22 , Edgar wrote:
E But when I click the + nothing happens, how can I look into the
E list or subscribe?
This is the info you should get (opens here fine btw)
Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Moderator: Maruice Snellen
A little note
On Tuesday, December 23, 2003 at 19:43 Edgar wrote:
TBNLUDL?
Do you have some links to join and the home site?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] will get you on the list (after
answering the confirmation request). There is no homepage in Dutch as
of yet (that I know of).
By the way, I'm the hoster/moderator
MDP Hi Rich,
Hi! And Best Wishes to all!!
j ... the Ctrl-shift-left arrow keeps everything highlighted and
j puts the cursor at the beginning of the field.
RG This is one of my BIGGEST complaints with TB.
MDP This is such a tiny flaw compared to
Tiny? I'll give you small! There are times when
I am looking for the link to the Library (for the recursive wrap template
macro).
May I suggest (sheepishly and without any attitude) that when we make
reference to any web resource that we include the link to it?
Not at all wanting to be hated by the batters, your truly,
--
Rich
On Tuesday, December 23, 2003 at 09:51 Edgar wrote:
Although the help here in this group is great, It should not need
to exist. There should be a good help system. Companies do not
have the time to read loads of mailing list to find out how the
e-mail client works.
I will probably never
S There is nothing 'unprofessional' about the way The Bat! editor functions,
S There are distinctive ways of doing things in TB! but those ways work well
S once you have adapted to them.
In the header, it does *NOT* work! Just try it, friend.
S The benefit of using an excellent client like TB!
Hello rich,
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 15:29:08 -0500 GMT
(23.12.2003, 21:29 +0200 GMT, where I live),
you wrote:
rg I am looking for the link to the Library (for the recursive wrap template
rg macro).
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html
--
Be happy,
Maurice
On Tuesday, December 23, 2003 at 09:51 Edgar wrote:
I will probably never cease to be amazed by the apparently omnipresent
expectation that all software must be either self evident or otherwise
self explanatory.
Actually, I disagree...at least about what I think the expectations of most users
Hello rich,
On Tuesday, December 23, 2003, at 3:49:11 PM, you wrote
re: 2.0 Underwhelmed...:
No matter how frustrated you are, I would appreciate it if you did not
use our Lord's name in vain on this list. I also don't think that it's
necessary for you to get abusive to make your point.
--
Hello rich,
Not at all wanting to be hated by the batters, your truly,
You will be hated by some of us is you start a new thread by replying to
an existing message. That is what OE users do, not batters :-)
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v2.01.3
Winamp
Hello Roel,
On Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 9:11:52 PM, you wrote:
Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Moderator: Maruice Snellen
Thanks.
I've also got the site to work. Proxomitron did block it. It's
now in the by pass file, so I just confirmed my subscription.
--
Not at all wanting to be hated by the batters, your truly,
M You will be hated by some of us is you start a new thread by replying to
M an existing message. That is what OE users do, not batters :-)
Excellent point! Mea culpa.
--
Rich
Current
Hello Maurice,
On Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 9:35:46 PM, you wrote:
Business e-mail is, in my opinion, not a trivial tool. Just like
business correspondence is not a trivial tool in doing business. I've
heard of secretaries who are required to follow a course in official
Dutch
Hello Maurice,
Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 8:35:46 PM, you wrote:
MS I will probably never cease to be amazed by the apparently
MS omnipresent expectation that all software must be either self
MS evident or otherwise self explanatory.
It's primarily an internal IT industry expectation - take a
Hello Tony,
Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 9:09:15 PM, you wrote:
TM To use an analogy, the owner's manual for my car doesn't
TM discuss how to drive, or what gasoline is, but it does tell me
TM where the gasoline tank is filled on _my car_, and it does tell me
TM about ways in which my car might
WH No matter how frustrated you are... I don't think that it's necessary for
WH you to get abusive to make your point.
Sorry to disappoint, but I was not frustrated in the least!
As the moderator expressed, my wording could be considered be some to be
profanity, not my intention. I was seriously
Hello rich,
On Tuesday, December 23, 2003, at 6:56:55 PM, you wrote
re: 2.0 Underwhelmed...:
rg I was defending myself and now _I'm_ the abusive one. OK, you have a point,
rg but re-read the message I was replying to and tell me who there was the
rg abuser and abused, if you care so much.
It
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Hello rich,
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 15:49:11 -0500 your time, you said:
rg There is no need to be such a dick.
Having a tantrum are we? lol
Merry Christmas
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Slán,
Simon @ i~n+f~o+w~i+z~a+r~d+.~c+o~.+u~k
Hi Rich,
@23-Dec-2003, 15:21 -0500 (23-Dec 20:21 UK time) rich gregory [RG]
in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck:
MDP This is such a tiny flaw compared to
RG Tiny? I'll give you small! There are times when I have a heck
RG of a lot of email addresses on the BCC: line that need to be
RG
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