Re: Uninstall Problem-Help.
Hi Thomas, On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, at 12:41:30 +0800 you wrote: The attachment has an ".shtml" extension and the content-type is text/html. On my machine, the attachment is shown as "message.html", not .shtml and its content type is text/html. But you are right, I can't delete the attachment either. -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 |Lars Geiger | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=GetPublicKey | -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
HTML attachment (was: Uninstall Problem-Help.)
Hi Lars, On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 08:27:25 +0200GMT (13/04/2001, 14:27 +0800GMT), Lars Geiger wrote: The attachment has an ".shtml" extension and the content-type is text/html. LG On my machine, the attachment is shown as "message.html", not LG .shtml I checked again, and it is "message.shtml" over here. Getting stranger all the time. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.51 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Change reply-to for a folder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hail sd On 12 April 2001 at 17:56:29 -0500 (which was 23:56 where I live) sd ha scritto made the following points I have a folder, into which all my mail from a mailing list goes to. When I reply to a message, instead of getting the email address of the list, I get the email address of the person who sent the message. Can I do something to change, for this one folder, the address that ALL replies go to by default? I have a list like this as well. My solution is to put the following in a folder level template for that list. %to="" %to="%OFROMNAME on [group name] %OTOADDR" And then I have a group set up for lists in my address book with it's own template and use this for the replays. I have not run in to trouble (yet). - -- Best regards, ___ David | MUA :- The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2000 Server 5.0.2195 SP1 | International | | Oxymoron: Government planning | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt (Build 04/01) Comment: PGP Signed, sealed, delivered. iQA/AwUBOtadNPmK8eZlD0U0EQLSGwCfWQMw7v3a2gxytE5YNWhMiuraVxcAoKdC EhHx5pgcL7IItCnRckLsrVh9 =tYGK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Uninstall Problem-Help.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Lars On 13 April 2001 at 08:27:25 +0200 (which was 07:27 where I live) Lars Geiger might have written The attachment has an ".shtml" extension and the content-type is text/html. On my machine, the attachment is shown as "message.html", not .shtml and its content type is text/html. But you are right, I can't delete the attachment either. Mine is called [message.stm] content type the same and no I can not delete it. Are these differences caused by the different mail servers ? What I do like is the last lines added by the list it looked like ==8= __ Archives :Moderators :TBTech List:Unsubscribe: ==8= - -- HAND, ___ David | MUA :- The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2000 Server 5.0.2195 SP1 | International | | "Mama, don't let your babies grow up to be taglines..." | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt (Build 04/01) Comment: PGP Signed, sealed, delivered. iQA/AwUBOtafUvmK8eZlD0U0EQJ/YgCeNYs0JUNH0BNCfcO8T6MqYw+6ZaYAoKN4 vOPPKcZEzKUcnX+ojuz1umvS =Zu6C -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Change reply-to for a folder
Hello Marck, Friday, April 13, 2001, 1:14:17 AM, you wrote: MDP responsibly (everyone here knows about my aversion to folder level MDP templates - heck, I belong to a couple of lists that need this done MDP and I can't bring myself to do it). I am a newcomer to the list and to Bat, and learned your view on this just now. But folder level templates is really one of these things I like about The Bat. For instance I participate in a norwegian list and want my greetings and my signature there to be different from this list. I find it very convenient to just highlight the folder and start a new message. MDP N.B. Don't do this for all the lists you belong to. Most don't need it MDP and work better with an Address Book reply template tied to the list's MDP reply address. This solution is really only intended to compensate for You just taught me about Address Book templates. I had not discovered these. To have my reply template here for a well behaved list seems OK, but the conveniance of just highlighting the folder and start a new message will be lost if I put my New Message template here? -- Best regards, Ottarmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Change reply-to for a folder
On April 13, 2001, at 12:01:59 AM, Ottar Grimstad wrote: You just taught me about Address Book templates. I had not discovered these. To have my reply template here for a well behaved list seems OK, but the conveniance of just highlighting the folder and start a new message will be lost if I put my New Message template here? Yes, you do sacrifice convenience for safety. I myself had to struggle with that concept for quite some time, but eventually I became used to the idea of using AB Templates. There are only 2 Mailing Lists I belong to that force me to use Folder Level Templates because of the "Reply-To:" header issue. Nick ___ -=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- [ TB! v1.52 Beta 1 | Win 98 SE 4.10 A ] [ PGP 7.0.4 | Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE ] ___ -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Deleting messages
1. Is there a way to delete messages without having them going to the Trash folder (then you have to purge and compress the trash folder)? 2. I have a mailing list that is cumulating over 4,000 messages. I decided to delete them since I don't have time to read them. It took over 10 minutes on my slow p133. What is worse, during the deletion, TheBat hogs my entire cpu -- i.e. I could NOT do anything else on the computer. Is that the way TheBat works? Is there an option in TheBat or Windows (Win95) that I can turn on to make that process a background process ?? Now, the same thing might happen when I exit TheBat since I have set it to "empty trash on exit". Thanks in advance JM Using The Bat! 1.51 Under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Ghostlap MaXyM Monza 1-22-447 McLaren kierownica
Hello Best regards -- *** Michal Kozusznik *** MaXyM/PicSaintLoup *** *** music *** Taekwon-do *** *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** http://mops.uci.agh.edu.pl/~mxm_crd *** -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org [ attachment or non text part has been remove by MDaemon ]
HTML attachments (was; Uninstall Problem-Help.)
Hi David, On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 07:40:18 +0100GMT (13/04/2001, 14:40 +0800GMT), David Elliott wrote: DE Are these differences caused by the different mail servers ? I don't think that the mail server can change the name of an attachment. DE What I do like is the last lines added by the list it looked like DE Archives :Moderators :TBTech List:Unsubscribe: Ack. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.51 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Deleting HTML attachment (was: Uninstall Problem-Help.)
Hi Lars, On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 08:27:25 +0200GMT (13/04/2001, 14:27 +0800GMT), Lars Geiger wrote: The attachment has an ".shtml" extension and the content-type is text/html. LG On my machine, the attachment is shown as "message.html", not LG .shtml and its content type is text/html. But you are right, I LG can't delete the attachment either. It seems the attachment extension depends on the machine. I jsut received another HTML message, the attachment is also called "message.shtml", but the content-type is multipart/alternative (followed by a boundary), and I have no problems deleting the attachment. Has anybody ever been able to delete the HTML part of a message with a content-type text/html? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.51 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: HTML attachments (was; Uninstall Problem-Help.)
Hi Thomas, On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, at 15:38:36 +0800 you wrote: DE Are these differences caused by the different mail servers? I don't think that the mail server can change the name of an attachment. I just exported that particular message and had a closer look at the headers and the message body. First of all, there is no name for the attachment anywhere. That reminds me of a thread some time ago about the differences in the appearance of a html attachment in TB!, some people reporting .stm, some .shtml and some other extensions. The second problem is that there is no plain text part, only the html part. So obviously that's the reason why TB! refused to delete the html part, as there would have been nothing left to display :-) So I guess TB! can only delete a html part if the content type is multipart/alternative. DE What I do like is the last lines added by the list it DE looked like DE Archives :Moderators :TBTech List:Unsubscribe: Ack. Same here, and that's really strange, as these lines are correct in the exported message. -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 |Lars Geiger | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=GetPublicKey | -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Deleting HTML attachment (was: Uninstall Problem-Help.)
Hi Thomas, On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, at 16:16:25 +0800 you wrote: Has anybody ever been able to delete the HTML part of a message with a content-type text/html? I think that a message with content type text/html contains *only* a html part and that's the reason why TB! is unable to delete that part. Deleting the only content would create an empty message. So IMHO it is the right thing not to let the user delete that part. -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 |Lars Geiger | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=GetPublicKey | -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Deleting HTML attachment
Hi Lars, On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 10:28:35 +0200GMT (13/04/2001, 16:28 +0800GMT), Lars Geiger wrote: LG I think that a message with content type text/html contains LG *only* a html part Correct. LG and that's the reason why TB! is unable to delete that part. TB should keep the text it generates, see my other posting. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.51 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: HTML attachments
Hi Lars, On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 10:23:57 +0200GMT (13/04/2001, 16:23 +0800GMT), Lars Geiger wrote: LG The second problem is that there is no plain text part, only the LG html part. So obviously that's the reason why TB! refused to LG delete the html part, as there would have been nothing left to LG display :-) TB generates a text part when you view the message with HTML autview disabled. It was agreed quite some time ago that it should be possible to delete the HTML attachments, so that TB keeps only the text part it has generated. I was of the opinion that this was confirmed quite a number of versions ago. I will be on the lookout (!) for text/html messages, unless anybody can confirm or deny that the feature works. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.51 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: HTML attachments (was; Uninstall Problem-Help.)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Lars On 13 April 2001 at 10:23:57 +0200 (which was 09:23 where I live) Lars Geiger wrote or so historians believe First of all, there is no name for the attachment anywhere. True. That reminds me of a thread some time ago about the differences in the appearance of a html attachment in TB!, some people reporting .stm, some .shtml and some other extensions. Interesting idea. It looks like it based on the set up of each receiving computer The second problem is that there is no plain text part snip So I guess TB! can only delete a html part if the content type is multipart/alternative. That makes sense. DE What I do like is the last lines added by the list it DE looked like DE Archives :Moderators :TBTech List:Unsubscribe: Ack. Same here, and that's really strange, as these lines are correct in the exported message. Correct but these lines fall outside of any html/html tags. The message and the [You are subscribed as] line both fall inside some of these tags. - -- Thanks, ___ David | MUA :- The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2000 Server 5.0.2195 SP1 | International | | TABTRB: #12 Taglines never make you sleep on the wet spot. | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt (Build 04/01) Comment: PGP Signed, sealed, delivered. iQA/AwUBOta/pPmK8eZlD0U0EQIcigCgglUnw4vjPP1H+bi1FwNe/S4YEZgAoK0l wh7USPus65ErHolQaRcUtCgL =7sKn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: HTML attachments
On 2001-04-13 at 9:52 am Thomas wrote: TB generates a text part when you view the message with HTML autview disabled. It was agreed quite some time ago that it should be possible to delete the HTML attachments, so that TB keeps only the text part it has generated. I was of the opinion that this was confirmed quite a number of versions ago. I will be on the lookout (!) for text/html messages, unless anybody can confirm or deny that the feature works. It does. And very useful it is on [another] high-volume email list where about 2/3 of the members post using HTML although there is rarely any typographical need to do so! Alastair -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Uninstall Problem-Help.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi mark, On 13 April 2001 at 21:31:04 -0700 (which was 05:31 where I live) mark nathanson wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points: Please do not write to the list in HTML. It is against the list rules and many of the members here do not appreciate it. Some even have filters to move any HTML mail directly to trash. mn I installed the Bat 1.51 and wanted to uninstall. Went to mn Control-add/remove-clicked the bat and immediately this error came mn up"Exception E registry exception in module TBAT_Del.exe at mn 7298. Failed to get data for language." Tried reinstalling mn over 1.51 but same error. Would like to get a complete uninstall. mn Help would be appreciated. Thanks. mn Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer athttp://explorer.msn.com - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Consultant Software Engineer [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOtbC+jnkJKuSnc2gEQIqCwCdEQ1URCvoL95i0l9R2fCc6F86L5MAoOuc kv+PjXgr4gZ6y2nDyrrez9bX =wrjY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Deleting HTML attachment
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Thomas, On 13 April 2001 at 16:16:25 +0800 (which was 09:16 where I live) Thomas wrote to Lars Geiger on TBUDL and made these points: LG On my machine, the attachment is shown as "message.html", not LG .shtml and its content type is text/html. But you are right, I LG can't delete the attachment either. T It seems the attachment extension depends on the machine. Not in the 1.52 beta series in version after beta 1. I made a clear bug report about why this was happening and it got fixed. TB was enumerating the html/text file types and picking the *last* listed extension instead of the *first* in the list. As a result any incoming html attachments get given an fairly inappropriate extension. T Has anybody ever been able to delete the HTML part of a message T with a content-type text/html? Of course. How can you delete the only part of a message? As for TB keeping the self generated text approximation of such a message - why should TB betray one of its base fundamentals of not interfering with incoming email? - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Consultant Software Engineer [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOtbE0znkJKuSnc2gEQL8BwCdGfb5xZKeyU7q+EbiQg3SsowMF/0AoL7n v5xoezLHIgb6qo2X/m2HMkrY =PZOR -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: HTML attachments (was; Uninstall Problem-Help.)
Hi David, On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, at 09:58:10 +0100 you wrote: Interesting idea. It looks like it based on the set up of each receiving computer It seems so. Have a look at Marck's bug report: http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg23001.html And this is the thread where the problems regarding different extensions on different machines was discussed: http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg22937.html -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 |Lars Geiger | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=GetPublicKey | -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Deleting messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi net5zero, On 13 April 2001 at 03:11:54 -0400 (which was 08:11 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to TBUDL and made these points: nnn 1. Is there a way to delete messages without having them going to nnn the Trash folder (then you have to purge and compress the trash nnn folder)? You can set up a manual filter with a hotkey combo which has the action to delete a message. That may do the job. nnn Is that the way TheBat works? Kind of, yes. It is a sensitive operation, rewriting the mailbase. It will also take longer if the folder in question is in need of compressing. nnn Is there an option in TheBat or Windows (Win95) that I can turn nnn on to make that process a background process ?? How often will you delete a batch of 4000 messages? nnn Now, the same thing might happen when I exit TheBat since I have nnn set it to "empty trash on exit". Yes, but only this time - I think. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Consultant Software Engineer [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOtbGpDnkJKuSnc2gEQLKAACfW20IUYEq3cCUYdP115OSM9lLA4gAoMhI f5pbfda+kfeinaZNVSuSVfmY =5ujU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Administrator and more
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Michal, On 13 April 2001 at 13:07:51 +0200 (which was 12:07 where I live) Michal Kozusznik wrote to Michal Kozusznik and made these points: MK Due to this, other users will not be able to read this mails from MK another places (ie. from home) If you (or a user) are configuring multiple access points for mail then the setting "Leave mail on server for xx days" should be used. This will allow mail to be read from multiple locations without problem. MK With this 3 problem described under this subject, TB! is useless MK as multi-user client :((( I disagree. IMHO TB goes further in this respect than most (if not any) other client I have seen. It's not perfect, agreed, but it does go quite a way. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Consultant Software Engineer [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOtbj2DnkJKuSnc2gEQI+FACg4tquqFvok356EyNMdbhzeJhwA6YAn05c Vd8T3ARFt/sMU34Ke3tpqQDi =j5Vd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Administrator and more
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Michal, On 12 April 2001 at 22:59:50 +0200 (which was 21:59 where I live) Michal Kozusznik wrote to Ming-Li and made these points: MK ... But if the TB! admin acc is created under "name1" Win account, MK it can't be used under "name2" win account. TB! says: there is no MK "Admin" account. I have only one admin account. I don't know what MK happens with more such accounts. MK More important is, I can't made working more then one user account MK based on the group. TB! doesn't say this account doesn't exist. When I MK use wrong password TB! says: "Wrong password". But when I use correct MK pass, TB! going to hang or nothing happens (Cancel button on password MK requester usually works) You have made a basic error here. TB stores its configuration in HKCU. If you log in as a completely different user at the *Windows* level, then you are dealing with a whole new installation of TB. TB is designed to be user specific. *Either* use a single windows login and multiple TB users *Or* use multiple Windows logins *and* multiple TB installations. You can probably use a single executable set but will need different mailbase root folders for each user/account. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Consultant Software Engineer [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOtbksTnkJKuSnc2gEQKikACfVNoURM1I+UKv2nFnb9B7lCmBvdsAoJJR T84xL7CKew5SITLpVUHmkvXT =h2+V -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
periodical checking mail
Hi. I have a problem with periodical checking mail. It's does not work. Please, tel me how can I fix this bug without erasing account.cfg file from the mail box dir. Best regards Dmitry Polunin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: 8(095)534-0071 Home: 8(095)536-3786 ICQ 37099779 Voice mail 8(095)705-9285 63381 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: periodical checking mail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Dmitry, On 13 April 2001 at 15:52:03 +0400 (which was 12:52 where I live) Dmitry S. Polunin wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points: DSP I have a problem with periodical checking mail. DSP It's does not work. Please, tel me how can I fix this bug without DSP erasing account.cfg file from the mail box dir. Have you checked the " - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Consultant Software Engineer [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOtbrFjnkJKuSnc2gEQIIjgCgy8p2zWdEe+dylUvbmjKe0YGWY6YAn0ME +jxfpi07L6Az3RKLKHz0/9DF =Vjvo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: periodical checking mail
Hello all, Friday, April 13, 2001, Dmitry S. Polunin wrote: Hi. I have a problem with periodical checking mail. It's does not work. Please, tel me how can I fix this bug without erasing account.cfg file from the mail box dir. What OS You have? Didn't You upgraded OS or IE? -- Bye Marek Mikus Using the best The Bat! 1.52 Beta/4 under the worst Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 Intel Celeron 266 MHz, 96 MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: periodical checking mail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Dmitry, On 13 April 2001 at 13:03:34 +0100 (which was 13:03 where I live) Marck D. Pearlstone wrote to Dmitry S. Polunin on TBUDL and made these points: (and pressed send before he'd quite finished!) DSP I have a problem with periodical checking mail. DSP It's does not work. Please, tel me how can I fix this bug without DSP erasing account.cfg file from the mail box dir. Have you checked the "No automatic dial for periodical checking" in the network options? That can cause such behaviour. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Consultant Software Engineer [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOtbtjznkJKuSnc2gEQI+vACg86up1b0kXFpUPABiI6937nZ/e4kAoJ38 4Qf2kVidQSC3zFEb5DhaiPwI =I/cr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: periodical checking mail
Hello Marek, Friday, April 13, 2001, 4:01:52 PM, you wrote: MM Hello all, MM Friday, April 13, 2001, Dmitry S. Polunin wrote: Hi. I have a problem with periodical checking mail. It's does not work. Please, tel me how can I fix this bug without erasing account.cfg file from the mail box dir. MM What OS You have? NT4 SP6 IE 5.0 MMDidn't You upgraded OS or IE? May be... can't remember what I did first: install thebat or sp6 :) -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: periodical checking mail
DSP I have a problem with periodical checking mail. DSP It's does not work. Please, tel me how can I fix this bug without DSP erasing account.cfg file from the mail box dir. MDP Have you checked the " If you mean "periodical checking mail" checkbox - yes! It's checked -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Administrator and more
Hello Marck, Friday, April 13, 2001, 1:32:40 PM, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: If you (or a user) are configuring multiple access points for mail then the setting "Leave mail on server for xx days" should be used. This will allow mail to be read from multiple locations without problem. ??? I think if I'm logged-in as chosen user (not administrator), I should not be able to do anything with other users accounts, including receiving their posts !!! In folder windows is OK: I can see only my accounts. But in pull-down menus of SEND and RECEIVE buttons I can see other accounts. Even administrator account. I think it's very incorrect. I disagree. IMHO TB goes further in this respect than most (if not any) other client I have seen. You're right. But as client of single user. It's not perfect, agreed, but it does go quite a way. How can I use TB! in multiuser mode if: 1. Administrator user cannot log-in from other windows account then Admin account was installed? 2. I can't get working second TB! account 3. Any user logged in its account can receive mails of other users Sorry, Or I misunderstand something or there is some true troubles. I'm using TB! long time, and I hope these problems will be solved as soon as possible Best regards -- *** Michal Kozusznik *** MaXyM/PicSaintLoup *** *** music *** Taekwon-do *** *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** http://mops.uci.agh.edu.pl/~mxm_crd *** -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: periodical checking mail
DSP I have a problem with periodical checking mail. DSP It's does not work. Please, tel me how can I fix this bug without DSP erasing account.cfg file from the mail box dir. MDP Have you checked the "No automatic dial for periodical checking" in MDP the network options? That can cause such behaviour. No... I have Lan connection with Inet... And do not check "Use account specific network settings" -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: periodical checking mail
Hello all, I have a problem with periodical checking mail. It's does not work. Please, tel me how can I fix this bug without erasing account.cfg file from the mail box dir. MM What OS You have? NT4 SP6 IE 5.0 MMDidn't You upgraded OS or IE? May be... can't remember what I did first: install thebat or sp6 :) some users told me problem with automatic periodical checking after they installed SP1 on Windows2000 or IE5.5 with SP1 on IE5.0. I sent bugreport to Ritlabs already. You can try to install TB again, if will be SP installed after TB. -- Bye Marek Mikus Using the best The Bat! 1.52 Beta/4 under the worst Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 Intel Celeron 266 MHz, 96 MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[4]: periodical checking mail
Hello Marek, Friday, April 13, 2001, 4:28:08 PM, you wrote: MM Hello all, I have a problem with periodical checking mail. It's does not work. Please, tel me how can I fix this bug without erasing account.cfg file from the mail box dir. MM What OS You have? NT4 SP6 IE 5.0 MMDidn't You upgraded OS or IE? May be... can't remember what I did first: install thebat or sp6 :) MM some users told me problem with automatic periodical checking after they MM installed SP1 on Windows2000 or IE5.5 with SP1 on IE5.0. I sent MM bugreport to Ritlabs already. MM You can try to install TB again, if will be SP installed after TB. Fuck!!! Really thebat must be called TheBug! However thank's! maybe next version... -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Administrator and more
Hello Marck, Friday, April 13, 2001, 1:36:17 PM, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: TB is designed to be user specific. *Either* use a single windows login and multiple TB users *Or* use multiple Windows logins *and* multiple TB installations. You can probably use a single executable set but will need different mailbase root folders for each user/account. Yep. You're right. I'm doing as you wrote. Hmm. Is it enough to install TB! into the same directory from different windows account (is it the reason of register settings?) If I'll have to install TB! in different places for each windows account it will be waste of HDD space. Best regards -- *** Michal Kozusznik *** MaXyM/PicSaintLoup *** *** music *** Taekwon-do *** *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** http://mops.uci.agh.edu.pl/~mxm_crd *** -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: periodical checking mail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Dmitry, On 13 April 2001 at 16:41:42 +0400 (which was 13:41 where I live) Dmitry S. Polunin wrote to Marek Mikus and made these points: MM You can try to install TB again, if will be SP installed after TB. DSP !!! Really thebat must be called TheBug! DSP However thank's! maybe next version... moderator Please try to keep the language "vanilla". We have strict rules about swearing on this list. Thank you. /moderator - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Consultant Software Engineer [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOtb2FjnkJKuSnc2gEQI6EgCfYtrsPkvJcduyYKK0Y2KpYHVbCRIAoODp zqyed40uPVyUsbE/nhp1gLKT =s4oC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Killing dupes
Hello TBUDL! A while back I did something that I shouldn't have done - I killed dupes in a certain folder I have set up for a mailing list. I didn't even stop to hesitate when the program said it was going to kill 60(!) duplicates... I just clicked OK... :-( How stupid of me. What happened was that I lost sixty messages that were NOT duplicates, all from same person. From his later messages I have discovered that all his messages have the same message-ID!! It seems that either his computer or some program(s) can't manage the y2k so he has set the date permanently to January 1st, 1980. OK, that's fine but I wouldn't even have dreamed that that should make the message-IDs exactly the same!! Actually, I don't have any question... I just wanted to share this... It would have been nice if TB! had told me *what* were the messages it was about to kill... showing the basic "from" and "subject" info for instance. Now it seems to me that the message-ID isn't a very reliable way to determine which messages are duplicates... but then again, what is? -- Best regards, Pete Using The Bat! v1.51 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Receiving blank messages- help???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I have a strange problem that maybe an easy hit for many of the subscribers of this group. That is for some reason I am occasionally receiving blank messages in my inbox- that is to say no headers, from, to, or even text in the message! (not even rfc-822 headers) All I get is received and created times in the inbox list, and they are becoming quite annoying. I have even uninstalled, then re-installed the bat (and used restore) and still they occasionally turn up. Please please help as this is becoming very irritating? Best regards, Dave Wilson. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (E-mail me subject: 'public key' and I will send it to you) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 04 iQA/AwUBOtcI2IuowXdtlnXzEQL0LgCfWp1ZghDq5vRQH6TZXbo+SRFUV/EAnRon K35kk1oOedhEzOFqlsaPbh16 =TOxB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Killing dupes
On 13-04-2001 at 15:54, Pete P kindly wrote: What happened was that I lost sixty messages that were NOT duplicates, all from same person. From his later messages I have discovered that all his messages have the same message-ID!! (..) That is a serious error on his part. Message-IDs are *meant* to be unique. It would have been nice if TB! had told me *what* were the messages it was about to kill... showing the basic "from" and "subject" info for instance. Would be a nice option, indeed. Have you tried to browse that particular folder for deleted messages? You might be able to salvage them that way... Now it seems to me that the message-ID isn't a very reliable way to determine which messages are duplicates... It is the only reliable way. But there is no way that TB can foresee that somebody will, agains all RFCs, start using the same message-ID over and over again... - K - -- Biographies rely on butch criteria: a life is plotted according to the markers of death, marriage, professional appointment, murder and military campaigns. - Alain de Botton: Kiss Tell -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Receiving blank messages- help???
On 13-04-2001 at 16:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] kindly wrote: I have a strange problem that maybe an easy hit for many of the subscribers of this group. That is for some reason I am occasionally receiving blank messages in my inbox- that is to say no headers, from, to, or even text in the message! (not even rfc-822 headers) There's a virus around that does exactly that, but it usually has an attachment. Do you get attachments in these empty mails? (Usually, the subject is "Hahaha".) I get at least four a day. - K - -- At last official count nearly 500 gay and lesbian couples had been united in civil unions this summer in Vermont. There were flowers, champagne, brides and brides, grooms and grooms. The sky did not fall. The earth did not split in two. Happy families and happy friends watched happy people pledge their love. - Columnist Anna Quindlen, Newsweek, Sept. 11 2000. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Receiving blank messages- help???
On 2001-04-13 at 3:10 pm daveiw wrote: I have a strange problem that maybe an easy hit for many of the subscribers of this group. That is for some reason I am occasionally receiving blank messages in my inbox- that is to say no headers, from, to, or even text in the message! (not even rfc-822 headers) All I get is received and created times in the inbox list, and they are becoming quite annoying. I have even uninstalled, then re-installed the bat (and used restore) and still they occasionally turn up. Please please help as this is becoming very irritating? Your email address immediately suggests to me that it's some quirk of your ISP; when I was (briefly) a member of cwcom.net in 1999 all sorts of strange things happened with email delivery (and many other facilities). Suggestion: (i) Set up a secondary (completely different) email package to access your mailbox, ensuring _that email is left on the server_ by it; (ii) Before using The Bat! to download email off the server, check mail (without downloading it) using the other package. Are the problems visible with the secondary email package? Alastair -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Killing dupes
Hello Karin, Friday, April 13, 2001, 5:25:56 PM, you wrote: KS Have you tried to browse that particular folder for deleted KS messages? You might be able to salvage them that way... Well, I've got most of them back with the list-moderator's help so this is not as disasterous (is that a real word?!) as it first seemed. Now it seems to me that the message-ID isn't a very reliable way to determine which messages are duplicates... KS It is the only reliable way. But there is no way that TB can KS foresee that somebody will, agains all RFCs, start using the KS same message-ID over and over again... Which leads me to a question: how *is* it possible to have same message-ID on several messages?! I'm dumbstruck! "Start using the same message-ID..."? How? Thanks, Karin, for response. -- Best regards, Pete Using The Bat! v1.51 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Killing dupes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Pete On 13 April 2001 at 18:51:11 +0300 (which was 16:51 where I live) Pete P wrote Which leads me to a question: how *is* it possible to have same message-ID on several messages?! I'm dumbstruck! Check out XRay. I have seen it this list. Do a search for 4775736E617769.4368656E@home in the header and you will find a few and then search for [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 6 march follow that thread for an explanation. - -- BBFN, ___ David | MUA :- The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2000 Server 5.0.2195 SP1 | International | | And let's see ... what to post in return ... `SEX' Taglines?| -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt (Build 04/01) Comment: PGP Signed, sealed, delivered. iQA/AwUBOtclL/mK8eZlD0U0EQJHfgCg5jjbw52INSFeqw8cgS/eaJQl9doAn1jx lFFqitQQ8VYvL+wVpnbjstfg =jP7a -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Purging, was:: TB temp files mystery -- an experiment
Thursday, April 12, 2001, 3:56:24 PM, you wrote: When you delete a message from a folder, it is not really removed: it is only taken out of the folder's index file (*.tbi). When you purge, it is really deleted. But you also need to compress from time and time: remove old entries (messages) from the messge database (*.tbb). I have been compressing, which seems to purge. Today I tried purging, which seems to compress. They appear to be redundant processes. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB temp files mystery -- an experiment
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 at 10:29:14 +0800 Thomas wrote: This is indeed methodical, Not really, because I didn't set out to try all functions of TB. I just did what I usually do. I also said it's not scientific because I knew it's not real-time monitoring, but infrequent snapshots (1 min. interval may be frequent enough for human activities, but not for computers). and must have created a rather large log file which you had to read through after those over two hours. ;-) Not really, either. TB's temp file follows a certain naming rule (BAT*.tmp), which is easy to search in an editor. I stopped the experiment around 7:30 this morning, about 24 hours after it began. The log is about 2.4 MB, 66 thousand lines, and it logged a total of 7 BAT temp files. All of them have been deleted automatically by TB, even though I haven't closed it since yesterday. When you download new mail, I understand these messages will be downloaded to the temp dir first, then "imported" (some, including myself, have already seen the cycle "importing messages" from TB, and the occasional hang at that point), and if the import action is successful, the files will be deleted from temp. I'm not sure exactly how this works. I watched closely at the temp dir when downloading mail, but even when the number of messages to download is large, I don't always see temp files created. It's possible they're deleted too soon for my explorer to refresh its display. I'll get a real-time monitoring tool to try again. This is what you have missed. If there is any doubt about whether the "import" was successful, TB will not delete the files in the temp dir, giving you a chance to find out whether the error might have to do with them. This seems plausible. Yet then it begs two questions: 1. why are there many leftovers (undeleted temp files) for so many users? My experience (very rarely has TB left anything in my temp dir) should be the norm, but it clearly is not given the testimonies by others on the other thread. It's hard to imagine they're experiencing so many failed imports, since it's not related to the outside connection (the message has been downloaded and saved as a temp file on your HD, but somehow TB fails to import it into TB). 2. why are there so many 0-byte temp files (for many others, not me)? As I speculated earlier, it could be due to incomplete deletion, but why? Well, since it doesn't affect me, I'm not sure why I'm pursuing this. Kind of foolish, ain't I? :-) -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/4 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Killing dupes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Pete! On Friday, April 13, 2001 at 3:54:49 PM you wrote: How stupid of me. It would have been nice if TB! had told me *what* were the messages it was about to kill... showing the basic "from" and "subject" info for instance. Now it seems to me that the message-ID isn't a very reliable way to determine which messages are duplicates... but then again, what is? In my experience there is not much to do about any kinds of mistakes. You see, any way to ease work (= automating it) gives way to new failure. That's why I usually go through my folders by hand every few weeks - I know, not really feasible if you have a very big message base. But I don't keep most of the messages I get. So, I agree, it would be a nice option, but will surely not cure this kind of "stupidity"*, to borrow your word . ;-) *And I have a great share in those. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/3 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Die Trunkenheit vermehrt schn zwei schne Dinge - Mut und Liebe. (Jean Paul) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOtciuvTo1oA8g8dLEQIXwgCdE4tljWwYV9vLwp3HmCwt/7G5uYEAoOHY Is2k1Ec5mmebhaPeNI7G6MT8 =Pl5m -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Deleting messages
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 at 03:11:54 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. I have a mailing list that is cumulating over 4,000 messages. I decided to delete them since I don't have time to read them. It took over 10 minutes on my slow p133. If you're deleting all messages in a folder, several ways would generate faster result: 1. select the folder in the account tree pane, and hit DEL. TB would prompt you to either "delete to trash", "wipe", or "leave message base intact". The first option would take a little longer, but still significantly shorter than what you did. The last two options are instant. 2. use the "Empty" command from the Folder menu. It still move files to the recycle bin, but is still much faster. On my 200MHz machine, deleting all messages in folder with 5300+ messages took me 1:20, while emptying it took 50 sec. Mark and delete is the slowest, because not only it has to move messages to the trash folder, but also it works on one message at a time. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/4 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Purging, was:: TB temp files mystery -- an experiment
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 at 11:23:03 -0500 Dwight A Corrin wrote:
When you delete a message from a folder, it is not really
removed: it is only taken out of the folder's index file (*.tbi).
When you purge, it is really deleted. But you also need to
compress from time and time: remove old entries (messages) from
the messge database (*.tbb).
I have been compressing, which seems to purge. Today I tried purging,
which seems to compress. They appear to be redundant processes.
No, as Karin put it, purge and compress are two different things.
It's just in TB you can't do Purging without compression. The "Purge
all folders" command under the Folder menu does do compression,
which should be renamed to "Purge AND COMPRESS all folders". The one
for a single folder ("Purge and Compress") is clear.
The Compress and Compress All Folders commands, OTOH, don't purge.
--
Best regards,
Ming-Li
The Bat! 1.52 Beta/4 | Win2k SP1
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Re: TB temp files mystery -- an experiment
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Ming-Li! On Friday, April 13, 2001 at 6:23:24 PM you wrote: Well, since it doesn't affect me, I'm not sure why I'm pursuing this. Kind of foolish, ain't I? :-) First off all, I want to thank you for it. And then, I can tell you why: 1. You're a nice person (Good to see that some are still around.). 2. The problem cannot be investigated by someone who encounters it. You are "our" control group. Thanks again! :-) - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/3 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Es ist viel einfacher, Kritik zu ben, als etwas anzuerkennen. (Benjamin Disraeli) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOtckM/To1oA8g8dLEQK0SwCgiv057bdniOLRKZTN/Lysp8ZpGZIAn1hz 1Fh9j6JPBqlDTHQQ+qFRhNI1 =ISrr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Receiving blank messages- help???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Alastair, Friday, April 13, 2001, 3:30:57 PM, you wrote: I have a strange problem that maybe an easy hit for many of the subscribers of this group. That is for some reason I am occasionally receiving blank messages in my inbox- that is to say no headers, from, to, or even text in the message! (not even rfc-822 headers) All I get is received and created times in the inbox list, and they are becoming quite annoying. I have even uninstalled, then re-installed the bat (and used restore) and still they occasionally turn up. Please please help as this is becoming very irritating? AS Your email address immediately suggests to me that it's some quirk of AS your ISP; when I was (briefly) a member of cwcom.net in 1999 all sorts AS of strange things happened with email delivery (and many other AS facilities). Many thanks for your swift replies, especially Alastair. I have tried another client (OE) as you suggested and found that it too received 1 of those messages. This may suggest the ISP but I have never had this problem before. Is it possible that I may have some sort of virus on my PC (this seems unlikely as the messages are few and far between) that's causing this? Apart from changing ISP - something I do not wish to do, do you have any suggestions? Also in answer to Karin's question - I have no attachments with the messages. :-) - -- Best regards, Dave Wilson. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (E-mail me subject: 'public key' and I will send it to you) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 04 iQA/AwUBOtc0WYuowXdtlnXzEQIvcgCgtMLVUyD7O+37tJ+mxftB0TavuM8AnAu7 3H7oPxOUgoFtRL9nFtzgEGW7 =Wvc2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB temp files mystery -- an experiment
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Ming-Li! On Thursday, April 12, 2001 at 6:50:11 PM you wrote: And I don't use TB's ticker, if that makes a difference. As one who has - newly - encountered the mysterious temp problem, I just want to fill in that I am also *not* using the MT due to my problem that it gets stuck and I cannot get access through it to the new mails because it gets stuck displaying the message how many mails have arrived. So, it is not the MT creating and not deleting the temps. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/3 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Wer sich nicht verbiegen lt, zerbricht! (Aleks Papst) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOtcZU/To1oA8g8dLEQLuhgCdEawwniqaLi2nzJO5lwGKXOerD+cAoO5b KzIbo7vgKRA1eY0iRPALk7gL =lwgm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB temp files mystery -- an experiment
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas! On Friday, April 13, 2001 at 4:29:14 AM you wrote: This is what you have missed. If there is any doubt about whether the "import" was successful, TB will not delete the files in the temp dir, giving you a chance to find out whether the error might have to do with them. But why then do I have those undeleted temps consistently every time, when I have *never* encountered the prob with hanging or even crashing (lucky me) during the import process? - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/3 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Peace: In international affairs, a period of cheating between two periods of fighting. (Ambrose Bierce) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOtcZtvTo1oA8g8dLEQLDEQCggfcvFd9viI3MmHI1++jd5vBb4O4AoOwZ WnXFXy3/oBzJfgkHr3YDyhWv =hr3W -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB temp files mystery -- an experiment
Hallo Ming-Li, On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 09:23:24 -0700 GMT (14/04/2001, 00:23 +0800 GMT), Ming-Li wrote: and must have created a rather large log file ML The log is about 2.4 MB, 66 thousand lines, If that is not large... ML I'm not sure exactly how this works. [...] ML 1. why ML 2. why So many questions, so few answers (without source code). Life's tough. ;-) Thanks for your efforts, but I tink at this point we can only guess. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. When I'm not in my right mind, my left mind gets pretty crowded. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49g under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Change reply-to for a folder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Marck! On Friday, April 13, 2001 at 1:14:17 AM you wrote: %TO=""%TO="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Just out of curiosity: Why not *%TO="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"*? - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/3 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Dankbarkeit ist eine Pflicht, die erfllt werden sollte, die aber zu erwarten keiner das Recht hat. (Jean-Jacques Rousseau) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOtcae/To1oA8g8dLEQKyaACfQps/72KUfQ0tkcgAbUAV6KNFY30AoK34 SWPiJL/2AY19IHpAlmBKryHy =8+td -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Change reply-to for a folder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas! On Friday, April 13, 2001 at 4:35:38 AM you wrote: That's the risk. One should take a look at the TO header before hitting "send". It requires an IQ above that of bread, which should be no problem for anybody who has grown out of AOL, I guess. A bit touchy today? OK, as some may remember I do not completely agree on Marck's view concerning folder level templates. Just for the record, I consider the sensible dealing with templates on all three levels is one of the major benefits of TB! I think I once described it on list not so long ago. The operative word is "sensible". - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/3 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C If you think that thinking the earth is spherical is just as wrong as thinking the earth is flat, then your view is wronger than both of them put together. (Isaac Asimov) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOtccB/To1oA8g8dLEQKU9QCgu222zM+W2hE+DpjuU9Rlz0gDf5kAoN+B TdMwwfF4DIR01to/zZzFLRSM =fW52 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Uninstall Problem-Help.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Lars! On Friday, April 13, 2001 at 8:27:25 AM you wrote: On my machine, the attachment is shown as "message.html", not .shtml and its content type is text/html. But you are right, I can't delete the attachment either. Same here. BTW, what happened to the mailing list's footlines in that message? - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/3 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C I never think of the future. It comes soon enough. (Albert Einstein) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOtcdRPTo1oA8g8dLEQL/FACg2x6cbcElPd573p6hbunSQn9Ydc8AoK59 KV/mVRjzi7dWHLfEOsSyllVn =OiUy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Change reply-to for a folder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello David! On Friday, April 13, 2001 at 8:31:10 AM you wrote: I have a list like this as well. My solution is to put the following in a folder level template for that list. %to="" %to="%OFROMNAME on [group name] %OTOADDR" Another side question bugging me for some time now: Are the macro names case sensitive? - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/3 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Why don't you ever see the headline, "Psychic Wins Lottery?" -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOtceWPTo1oA8g8dLEQKPLQCg4UWQpvksTb/SIDb/Xh3UabeHpwcAn1Z3 uC4h0zxFo032NcXlIWQbcvo/ =/Pk4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Ghostlap MaXyM Monza 1-22-447 McLaren kierownica
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Michal! On Friday, April 13, 2001 at 9:29:13 AM you wrote: Hello Best regards A case of a misplaced folder level template? Or do I begin to not just missing something but really losing it? - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/3 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C The great tragedy of science: The slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact. (T.H. Huxley) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOtce4/To1oA8g8dLEQIBVACfT/wTDEmUIRfwXwuZlbn31MAyDxoAoOfb K5s/tCyldRaYnTEIE/As0bet =cJga -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Change reply-to for a folder
Hello Marck, On Friday, April 13, 2001, 12:14:17 AM, you wrote: MDP The only way to do this is to create edit the Folder properties and MDP create a Reply template for the folder which includes the MDP%TO=""%TO="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" I used this (thanks) for a list I am on, it works but also leaves the original senders e-mail address in as well as the lists, I tried a reply to macro which is supposed to override the "To", but it didn't clear the senders address and just leave the list address in. Any ideas why please? -- Best regards, Adam Using The Bat! v1.52 Beta/1 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Ghostlap MaXyM Monza 1-22-447 McLaren kierownica
Hallo Dierk, On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 18:44:34 +0200 GMT (14/04/2001, 00:44 +0800 GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: DH A case of a misplaced folder level template? Or do I begin to not just DH missing something but really losing it? If in doubt, the latter. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Nothing is fool-proof to a sufficiently talented fool. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49g under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Receiving blank messages- help???
On 2001-04-13 at 6:15 pm daveiw wrote: Many thanks for your swift replies, especially Alastair. I have tried another client (OE) as you suggested and found that it too received 1 of those messages. This may suggest the ISP but I have never had this problem before. Is it possible that I may have some sort of virus on my PC (this seems unlikely as the messages are few and far between) that's causing this? Apart from changing ISP - something I do not wish to do, do you have any suggestions? Also in answer to Karin's question - I have no attachments with the messages. :-) A look around suggests that: (i) completely blank emails are most likely an offshoot of faulty spamming software (!) (ii) completely blank emails _with an attachment_ are produced by a number of virus generators (I had one a couple of weeks ago where there were no headers whatsoever but an attachment containing a virus; Panda Antivirus sounded the alarm immediately it was received). Certainly, as there is literally nothing in the emails, they can only be harmless but annoying; the best solution is probably to work up a The Bat! filter to silently delete them before they get to you. (That said, I am having trouble working out what such a filter would be when the incoming message seemingly contains nothing at all, not even a header. Help!) Alastair -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Ghostlap MaXyM Monza 1-22-447 McLaren kierownica
Hello Dierk, Friday, April 13, 2001, 6:44:34 PM, Dierk Haasis wrote: A case of a misplaced folder level template? Or do I begin to not just missing something but really losing it? Yep. Sorry. wrong folder selected when I've used mailto: from www page. Fortunately the attachment was removed by TBUDL server :) Best regards -- *** Michal Kozusznik *** MaXyM/PicSaintLoup *** *** music *** Taekwon-do *** *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** http://mops.uci.agh.edu.pl/~mxm_crd *** -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Change reply-to for a folder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Dierk, On 13 April 2001 at 18:32:22 +0200 (which was 17:32 where I live) Dierk Haasis wrote to Thomas and made these points: DH I think I once described it on list not so long ago. The operative DH word is "sensible". The operative word *is* sensible. Every time someone says "There's no problem" and "it's easy", someone who doesn't understand what "sensible" means implements an unnecessary folder template and another slip happens. My strong warnings against the practice have a purpose. To *make* people treat them sensibly. To simply say "use them but be sensible" makes an understatement that can only result in problems. And, no sooner do we start discussing the topic than a user makes a post to two addresses bearing no relationship to this list and yet one of those addresses is that of the list. Coincidence? Not in my book. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Consultant Software Engineer [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOtdIwznkJKuSnc2gEQIvZgCeKB0xHFuOPQJtbU6VqsXPOM68gfYAoJj+ btj3uy5b/vSJMFUFaJwxWaEf =mVGW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Change reply-to for a folder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Adam, On 13 April 2001 at 18:52:43 +0100 (which was 18:52 where I live) Adam wrote to Marck D. Pearlstone and made these points: MDP%TO=""%TO="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ^^ A I used this (thanks) for a list I am on, it works but also leaves the A original senders e-mail address in as well as the lists, I tried a A reply to macro which is supposed to override the "To", but it didn't A clear the senders address and just leave the list address in. A Any ideas why please? The underlined bit is important. It takes out any existing entry in the "To:" field. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Consultant Software Engineer [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOtdLqznkJKuSnc2gEQL3zQCgvnTi27KMn3f+7zBkFYvDZ2IHCTMAoOqn EDeZzeKjTDyche8HSyJOz0Kc =yL7t -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Ghostlap MaXyM Monza 1-22-447 McLaren kierownica
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Michal! On Friday, April 13, 2001 at 8:24:17 PM you wrote: Yep. Sorry. wrong folder selected when I've used mailto: from www page. Fortunately the attachment was removed by TBUDL server :) Phew, am I glad, I really started to think I'm going more than slightly mad ;-). Happy Easter! - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/3 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises. (Samuel Butler) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOtdZhvTo1oA8g8dLEQLRgACg911rFpjYCiYq6qKP/s/SbsBAeWAAnR6r WJv5K/+WzJVhwVdHnWbs+i77 =nd3O -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Change reply-to for a folder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Marck! On Friday, April 13, 2001 at 8:43:08 PM you wrote: And, no sooner do we start discussing the topic than a user makes a post to two addresses bearing no relationship to this list and yet one of those addresses is that of the list. Coincidence? Not in my book. *I* am sure it is coincidental. All this shows something else, something most people today seem to forget: It could be both sides are right. In this case your position strengthens my use of "sensible". Contrary to my experience - jutted down in another message to another thread today - I hope that humans are inherently what their Linnean name suggests: Homo sapiens - sensible (wo)men. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/3 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C History would be an excellent thing if only it were true. (Leo Tolstoi) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOtdbA/To1oA8g8dLEQL7+QCg+R52N7023OflPX5v1ef23tOsQqsAnA+W NVUnQemuAuYAb+ZUSUizcu9u =kwfE -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Purging, was:: TB temp files mystery -- an experiment
Friday, April 13, 2001, 12:10:40 PM, you wrote:
I have been compressing, which seems to purge. Today I tried purging,
which seems to compress. They appear to be redundant processes.
No, as Karin put it, purge and compress are two different things.
It's just in TB you can't do Purging without compression. The "Purge
all folders" command under the Folder menu does do compression,
which should be renamed to "Purge AND COMPRESS all folders". The one
for a single folder ("Purge and Compress") is clear.
The Compress and Compress All Folders commands, OTOH, don't purge.
It seems that when I compress all folders, it purges. To test, I
compressed all folders, then deleted a message. I compressed, and
recovered an amount of space similar to the size of the message. When
I purged all folders, there was nothing to purge.
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MIME Forwarding via template?
TBUDL, Under account properties where the forwarding template is set, there is an option for "Use MIME standard for forwarding". Is there a way to control this using a template macro, rather than a global account setting? -=Elden=- http://www.moondog.org -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: MIME Forwarding via template?
Elden, Friday, April 13, 2001, 3:41:42 PM, you wrote: EF Under account properties where the forwarding template is set, EF there is an option for "Use MIME standard for forwarding". Is EF there a way to control this using a template macro, rather than a EF global account setting? Sorry, I should have been more precise... what I'm actually looking for is a way to cause an RFC-822 .msg attachment of the original message to happen via template macro. -=Elden=- http://www.moondog.org -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Deleting HTML attachment (was: Uninstall Problem-Help.)
Hello Thomas others on this TB! list following this thread, Friday, April 13, 2001, you asked: T Has anybody ever been able to delete the HTML part of a message with a T content-type text/html? This is what I do: I redirect the message using Crtl+F6, addressing it to the same address it came in with. I then select the attachment and delete it. Then I save it to the outbox, and drag it back to the folder it was in. Lastly, I delete the original. This is one of things redirecting is good for. Douglas -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Purging, was:: TB temp files mystery -- an experiment
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 at 16:40:43 -0500 Dwight A Corrin wrote: It seems that when I compress all folders, it purges. I went back to look at the explanation Karin gave you, and found what caused the confusion. I'm also at fault, of course, since I endorsed what she said without thinking. I guess she was lacking caffeine, and I simply had a bad day though it was only morning. Now, Karin's explanation is still a good place to start: KS When you delete a message from a folder, it is not really KS removed: it is only taken out of the folder's index file KS (*.tbi). This is almost right, except the index entry isn't really "taken out". It's marked as deleted. That's why you can "browse deleted messages", which would be much harder to do if the index entries no longer exist. KS When you purge, it is really deleted. Here, "purge" should be "compress". (In dBase/Clipper terminology, it's "pack".) What does "purging" do, then? It means deleting old messages according to a set criteria. If you have experience with higher-end newsreader, you should have no trouble with this concept. In TB, the criteria is set on a folder-by-folder basis (try Folder | Properties). If you set a folder to keep no a maximum of 100 messages, e.g., then when you purge it TB would delete all messages but the newest 100. When purging, TB delete them in its usual way--marking them as deleted in the index file (.tbi), but not removing them physically from the message base file (.tbb). Yet, as I said earlier, purging in TB is always followed by compression (either on all folder or a single one). The reverse isn't true. Hope that is clear enough. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/4 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Search for No Sender messages
Hello TBUDL, I am trying to search for all incoming messages with no Sender that have accumulated over the years. I don't want to move them using "Sorting/Filters", I only want to view them. So I did Tools/Search. In the Message finder I left the "Search for" field blank, in "Scope" I ticked Sender, in "Look in" I selected Current Account. The result gave all messages instead of those with no sender. What's wrong with my settings? -- Best regards, jlaikan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Change reply-to for a folder
Hallo Marck, On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 19:43:08 +0100 GMT (14/04/2001, 02:43 +0800 GMT), Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: DH The operative word is "sensible". MDP The operative word *is* sensible. The *operative* word is sensible. g You operate your program, it will do what you tell it. It makes sense. MDP My strong warnings against the practice have a purpose. To *make* MDP people treat them sensibly. To simply say "use them but be sensible" MDP makes an understatement that can only result in problems. Yes, but unless you mistakenly copy the local mafia boss when you write to your friend about how you had a wonderful time the mafia-bosses wife last night when when he was out, I wouldn't classify folder templates as *very* *very* dangerous. A word of warning is in order, and I also try to avoid them, but I don't put them in the same category with drinking and driving (which *is* "very very dangerous"). MDP And, no sooner do we start discussing the topic than a user makes a MDP post to two addresses bearing no relationship to this list and yet one MDP of those addresses is that of the list. Coincidence? Not in my book. LOL! Beginners are bound to make this mistake, and you can clearly see that nothing happened (the attachment was stripped, so we received a few lines of non-committing text). The unfortunate sender has blushed, and he has learned something. Several readers have learned from his mistake, and that may be worth more than mere warnings - if these mistakes are explained, and how to avoid them. And, being as voyeuristic as I am, I love to read messages that were meant to go by PM, but were inadvertedly copied to the list. It almost always guarantees some excitement on the list. I haven't seen a good flame on this list for months! :- -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Success always occurs in private, and failure in full view. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49g under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Deleting HTML attachment
Hallo Marck, On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 10:20:19 +0100 GMT (13/04/2001, 17:20 +0800 GMT), Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: T Has anybody ever been able to delete the HTML part of a message T with a content-type text/html? MDP Of course. Seeing the rest of your message, I believe you mean "of course not", as otherwise I'm unable to contradict you. ;-) MDP How can you delete the only part of a message? And if the context type is multipart/alternative or multipart/mixed, deleting part of that message is OK? Or if you have a "real" attachment, is that not technically a part of the message? MDP As for TB keeping the self generated text approximation of such a MDP message - why should TB betray one of its base fundamentals of MDP not interfering with incoming email? It is generated from text actually in the message, thus the message body is shown (not some "generated text", but the message minus the HTML tags). So, part of the message is filtered, and I want to delete only the part that is not shown. Same idea as when I have a message that was sent as multipart/alternative, the HTML part (text plus tags) is not shown, and I want to delete that part. In the former case it would be betrayal, in the latter it would be fine? Kindly clarify for me. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Monday is an awful way to spend 1/7th of your life. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49g under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Anti spam filter setup
Hello list members I need a good advice and some help configure an anti spam filter. How do I do it ? Any Howto that I can read ? I'll appreciate any help. TIA. Using TB! 1.51, M$ win 98 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
