Re: Installation problems with Vista
Chris- Sunday, July 8, 2007, 1:34:26 PM, you wrote: (You may have to confirm some of these actions.) 1) Log in as an administrator. ...and better yet, enable the Administrator account: open a command prompt box and type net user Administrator /Active:yes Of course, my preference would be to go with your original inclination and throw it against the wall, then go back to XP. I've got a Vista system at work that I fire up when I absolutely need to, and won't touch it any other time. -- -Mark Wieder Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Dragging from message list to Knujon e-mail: AV
Mary- Friday, January 5, 2007, 7:02:54 AM, you wrote: I need to check what date I let Microsoft update Internet Explorer to v. 7.0. That may be the difference on my system--although how an un-launched IE could affect The Bat! is beyond me. Sorry I missed this earlier. There have been reports of IE7 installing a new version of wininet.dll and this causing some havoc with other applications. I don't know if that's what's at work here, but you might want to check the date and version on that file. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to uninstal The Bat 1.x?
Mary- Saturday, September 23, 2006, 5:40:31 AM, you wrote: I recently had to get a new hard drive, and I'm now having problems with it, because Windows 2000 won't shut down properly. I'm running a similar vintage TB on Windows 2k, as you can see from my signature. While I sometimes have trouble shutting down TB because it's locked up waiting for the Connection Center to finish whatever it's doing, it's never interfered with Windows shutting down. And this is over several years on multiple computers. I'd seriously doubt that TB is to blame for the system problems, especially if you're not launching it explicitly. There aren't any processes running in the background to interfere with Windows operation. What symptoms are you having when the computer won't shut down properly? -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Aletrnatives to AVG?
Mark- Wednesday, February 8, 2006, 1:31:47 AM, you wrote: I'm not using the plugin but am satisfied with Nod32. Ditto. I'm more than satisfied. I used to run Norton as a backup to catch anything that made it past nod32, but *nothing* ever did, and I eventually tossed the Norton garbage and never looked back. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ssl
Chris- Thursday, December 8, 2005, 4:22:12 PM, you wrote: A proper certificate for the server would also solve the problem. ROTFL. Stunnel might solve the problem as well. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: GMail certificate not being 'sent' or something
Marten- Monday, September 12, 2005, 1:19:09 PM, you wrote: anything, I can't find where in TB to import a certificate. And frankly I don't see why I should be having to do this just to collect the occasional GMail email I have no certificates here and gmail is working fine. You're using the right ports, yes? pop: port 995 secure to dedicated port (TLS) full address as user name: [EMAIL PROTECTED] authentication: regular smtp: port 587 secure to regular port (STARTTLS) Perform SMTP authentication pop-before-smtp -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgraded from Dial-Up to DSL, TB Knocked Out - (Sent by Webmail)
jmtb- If all you need is TLS, then you should be OK. I'm using roughly the same vintage and I can connect to my gmail account using TLS. OTOH I seem to remember some TLS problems with some earlier versions, so this may or may not work out. My settings are: SMTP: secure to regular port (STARTTLS) : 587 Perform SMTP authentication: RFC 2554 Use settings of mail retrieval Use POP before SMTP authentication POP: secure to dedicated port (TLS) : 995 authentication : regular Other than that, try installing stunnel. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: using The Bat on multiple computers
David- Wednesday, August 3, 2005, 4:21:05 AM, you wrote: We have a very simple solution on our system (4 computers on a standard peer to peer network running under Win XP). We simply have one copy of the Bat on one of the machines, which is designated the server (where we save all files and which is backed up regularly). We then access the Bat .exe on the server from any of the machines on the network (using a desktop short cut) from which we want to use the Bat. This is how ours is set up as well, and it's worked fine that way for years. The version on the server is set up in TCP/IP server mode and the other computers are set up in Non TCP/IP workstation mode. This has the added advantage in that account changes (password, filtering, etc.) take place at the server level and UI changes (sorting, number of columns displayed, etc.) are customizable per workstation. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Announcement: The Bat! Nailclipper
Marten- Tuesday, May 3, 2005, 1:46:35 PM, you wrote: The Bat! Nailclipper Mobile Enail Client Sounds Great but what is the URL. MG Is it? No. It is a pronoun. What is the URL. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Announcement: The Bat! Nailclipper
admin- Monday, May 2, 2005, 5:15:34 AM, you wrote: aacu Many users experience difficulties activating the hand aacu and configuring an e-nail account. Often my hands are busy typing. I wonder if it would be possible to have an e-nail client for a different OS. My feet, for example, are generally underused when I'm at the computer. We used to have a sneakernet at my old office, but I think this was something else. Does Nailclipper rely on the finger protocol to determine configuration? -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
pi
Mic- Saturday, March 26, 2005, 3:21:35 PM, you wrote: MC Don't believe everything you hear... MC http://www.snopes.com/religion/pi.htm Embarassed that I didn't check with snopes first Yes, it was actually Indiana, not Kansas: http://www.ccsn.nevada.edu/math/pi/ http://db.uwaterloo.ca/~alopez-o/math-faq/node45.html -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message priority -- possible problem!
Mica- Friday, March 25, 2005, 5:33:16 AM, you wrote: MM The state of Kansas once passed legislation rounding the value of Pi MM from 3.14159265... to an even 3. Actually, I believe Kansas rounded pi *up* to 4. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using the TB! while I have the flu?
Gerard- Wednesday, March 9, 2005, 2:29:16 AM, you wrote: C Why not install UltraVNC on both (or all) machines? That's not only C giving you access to mail... G I just installed it and it works like magic. G BTW It also looks like a great tool for spying on some ones machine or for G practical jokes :) Well, yes, but remember that what you're doing there is screen-sharing, so when you move your mouse the cursor also moves on the machine you're controlling. And vice versa. You can get into mouse war situations easily. Although I've used this technique before for playing games over a network, turning single-machine games into multi-player, multi-cpu games. g -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using the TB! while I have the flu?
Roelof- Wednesday, March 9, 2005, 12:57:44 AM, you wrote: Z Is there a way I can let the laptop access the mail directory of the Desktop Z without corrupting it? RO You can do this in two ways. Both ways require you to have TB RO installed on your laptop and you've got your mail directory on your RO desktop shared for the network. Not necessarily. I installed TB on the laptop to get the registry entries in place, then uninstalled it, and now run the app from the desktop server. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: new AV plug-in for TB
B- Thursday, February 24, 2005, 2:04:28 PM, you wrote: David I find it a little odd that Eset/NOD32 isn't on that list. They're David usually pretty fast. Where did you find that info anyway? I'm curious. BRiaNS http://www.hispasec.com/unaaldia/2308/ BRiaNS I hope you know spanish ;) Well, that writeup *does* say that BitDefender, Kaspersky, NOD32v2, Norman, and Panda all caught it on the way in, even though the virus definitions weren't updated specifically for the variant. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Total Commander
Alexander- Sunday, October 31, 2004, 12:40:01 AM, you wrote: Thanks for the pointer. Another tool I didn't know about... -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Try to find Alow local delivery
Gerard- Thursday, September 30, 2004, 4:12:29 AM, you wrote: G There is one, for me at least, compelling reason to have this as an G account setting. I use one of my accounts on my iPAQ. One of the things I G do is send a mail with a specific subject, that creates an autoreply. I do G this so I can see if TB! is still up and running. Obviously I do not want G to have it delivered locally, because then it would not reach my ISP mail G server were I would collect it with my iPAQ. This is about the only scenario I can think of where it might actually make sense to have local delivery controlled at an account level. Nonetheless, local delivery is, and should remain, a system-wide setting. About the best you might hope for is a macro to disable this for a single message. There's a simple way to ensure that your test messages go out to your ISP even with local delivery turned on: send the message to an address outside your local system and put your iPAQ address on the CC line. I do this all the time for testing. If you don't have an outside address to test with then set one up with one of the free webmail providers. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Terminal Server client window crashes TB with an error in ntdll.dll
Marten- I see you're running XP, so you've already got this installed. The older rdp client, simply called Terminal Server Client (oh, those clever Microsoft names) didn't have some of the features of the newer version. Some programs work with rdp, some don't. I can say, though, that I've never had TB cause a problem with either the new or old TS clients. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/tools/rdclientdl.mspx -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! on a network
Cams- Sunday, September 12, 2004, 5:25:06 AM, you wrote: C I've tried with one account by going to Properties Files Directories C and browsing to a directory on PC1's hard drive, then doing the same on PC2 C with the directory mapped as z: over the network. If the directory in the C account's Files Directories settings is set as z: I get a message on PC1 C that says z: cannot be found. Likewise if I change it to d: on PC1, PC2 C then says that it cannot find d: That's the way my network is configured, with the addition that the executable is also on PC1 with a shortcut to it on PC2. Has worked fine for a number of years. You might check the registry settings on PC2 to make sure everything's set up the way you think it is. Make sure that both PC1 and PC2 have the same drive mapping. I use the M: drive (for Mail g) but I've set up other systems using other drive mappings and UNC addressing and it's always worked out. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
History of sliced bread
Michael- It's a twentieth-century thing: http://desmoinesregister.com/extras/iowans/rohwedder.html -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CSAPI spell checker
MAU- Monday, September 6, 2004, 10:45:19 AM, you wrote: Wow. Thanks. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Cut mark / A new fish in the block
Leif- Friday, September 3, 2004, 2:38:28 PM, you wrote: LG Baad Odor :grin: ROTFLASTC -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Tenure as List Moderator Ends
Allie- Getting out before the trout gets hot, eh? Thanks for your moderation over the years, and your level-headedness and voice of sanity, and for putting up with the rest of us. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Undeleting messages
Steve- As long as you can browse the deleted messages, you can copy them to another folder. Does that do what you want? -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: NOD32 Plug-In Beta.
Michael- Ditto here. I run nod32 on the server and I also run Norton AV on my workstations just because I don't trust *anything* completely. But nod32 has _never_ let anything through for Norton to catch. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folders don't display contents immediately
Robin- Have you compacted those folders lately? And have you checked the size of the folders themselves (file size, not number of messages)? Are you storing large binary attachments inline? -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Folders don't display contents immediately
Robin- Tuesday, August 10, 2004, 3:02:19 PM, you wrote: RA They range up to 53MB Well, I probably can't help there. Most of my folders are under 1MB in size (I store attachments separately) and they almost always open in under a second, even over the network with virus scanners working. When new mail comes in, of course, there's a delay while the virus scanners do their thing. But compacting always gets a zip back in my folders if they're slow in opening. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Playing with BayesIT macros
Leif- Wednesday, August 4, 2004, 11:23:46 AM, you wrote: LG Newer versions of TB recognize the dash space dash dash as a sig LG delimiter now. Thanks for the clarification. The PGP/GPG thing messing with text has always bothered me. Glad to know TB takes it in stride now. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Playing with BayesIT macros
Michael- Do post what you came up with here - that's *very* interesting. However, I should point out that since your cutline is incorrect and your message is roughly 80% signature lines I smell a trout hovering quite close nearby. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Oh those smilies are killing me
Mary- Sunday, August 1, 2004, 3:32:22 AM, you wrote: MB written a three-symbol symbol Is that a TSS? Sorry... I'm being a bit symbol-minded today... -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: questions/suggestions for the bat...
Marck- Sunday, June 20, 2004, 1:31:58 AM, you wrote: MDP stock lecture MDP I have a pet hate in TB. That pet hate is named Folder Templates. In MDP 150 folders I have two and only two that have folder templates. They MDP are for two specific lists which don't set the reply address properly. sigh ...I have three... /sigh -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: questions/suggestions for the bat...
Maggie- Sunday, June 20, 2004, 9:47:50 AM, you wrote: M Have you ever signed your telephone company correspondence Love, Mark? M ;-) g I haven't, but I *have* sent messages to tbudl that should never have gone there. And have (on another misconfigured listserv) accidentally sent messages to a single recipient when I meant them to go to the entire list. ducking ...besides, my telephone company knows how I feel... /ducking -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Downloading e-mail on to second computer
Peter- Thursday, June 17, 2004, 5:01:35 PM, you wrote: PO protocol://server/dir/file. Just another remark: TB can't work with PO something like (windows) \\server\share to store mail bases. You'll need PO to use a mapped network drive for that. My mail databases are stored in \\servername\sharepoint. I don't think I've had to use a mapped network drive since version 1.5x. I *do* keep a drive mapped to the mail directory just for easy access, but some time ago I started experimenting with changing the mapped entries to UNC entries and found that everything worked out fine. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access Violation
Bill- Saturday, June 12, 2004, 11:42:25 PM, you wrote: BM Here's one of the offending URLs: Works fine here with Mozilla, but I have to say that is quite possibly the longest url I have ever seen. Could you have run into an IE buffer overrun? -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Repair Message Base doesn't work
Sergey- Wednesday, June 9, 2004, 2:36:06 PM, you wrote: SK I can only suggest trying The Bat! Message Recovery tool: SK http://savenger.com/download/tbrec.rar. And short of that, try renaming a copy of the .tbb file to .uue, open it with WinZip, and see what comes up. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: Searching for a Tool
Marck- Tuesday, March 2, 2004, 1:41:58 AM, you wrote: MDP This thread is firmly in the Off-Topic realm. Please continue this MDP on TBOT (this message has been CC'd to the TBOT list to maintain MDP threading.) Hey - not fair! If I remember correctly here this topic is about flagging the attributes of stored email messages. That seems to me to be very much on-topic, as a workaround for changing the subject line and such. Just my opinion, but of course I'm right. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TBUDL Current version?
MAU- Saturday, February 28, 2004, 6:48:33 AM, you wrote: M Does it make any difference if you owe me 7 or 07 beers? ;-) Or 007 (cue the theme music...) This is the silliest argument I've seen on the list in some time. Maybe we should designate Friday as official OT Day on tbudl. We could sing TB songs, write TB poetry, annoy the moderators... -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Time for a Newsgroup?
Shouldn't this be in the FAQ by now so we can just put it to rest? -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sumbission Forms
Roelof- Friday, February 27, 2004, 7:50:41 AM, you wrote: That's my understanding of TB forms as well. I've always thought of them as one of the more useless features of TB. Right down there with the Menu Navigator (...ducking...) -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Off Topic, but I've no where else to post it.
Stuart- Wednesday, February 25, 2004, 1:11:16 AM, you wrote: SH I know how to get hold of support; I wanted RitLabs to know that SH their website had a duff address on it. ...so why not just email [EMAIL PROTECTED] and let them know? -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Menu Navigator Keyboard
Thomas- Monday, February 23, 2004, 10:42:04 AM, you wrote: TF Yes. There are so many menu items now that I sometimes forget where is TF which. The menu navigator is faster for me than guessing and looking TF through all the menues and submenues. Ah. But you do have to remember that there's something to look for, even if you don't remember where it is. For me, putting these things in an improved Help feature would serve the purpose much better. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.04.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Menu Navigator Keyboard
Allen- Sunday, February 22, 2004, 8:31:12 AM, you wrote: A There should be a little button to the left of the 'minimize' button in A your window title bar. Clicking it opens a little window that makes it A possible to search through the menus for an item in the menu. It can be A very handy, but not so much for me as I don't like mice :-) The Menu Navigator is one of the first things I turned off. Have you actually found something useful buried in there? -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.04.04 | quot;Using TBUDLquot; information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: Coffee
Mary- Sunday, February 8, 2004, 4:36:59 AM, you wrote: MRB So. why are we still here? Are you trying to entice me into more MRB flouting of tbudl's rules? Are you not subscribed on tbot? No, I'm not - I get enough traffic on my other lists. I wasn't actually trying to prolong this fishbait, but I couldn't figure out SCNR on my own. I'm off to other threads now, before Leif catches me. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: Coffee
Chris- Thanks. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: digest mode problem
Peter- Friday, February 6, 2004, 5:31:21 PM, you wrote: PO Checking the mail headers may reveal the problem. PO Did you check them? Well, I didn't before, but now that I look at 'em, it appears that my ISP just held on to issue 18 for a few hours. The received times look fine all the way through to the endpoint, then a long silence. At least the mystery is on my end and nothing for the listserv to worry about. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: digest mode problem
Roelof- Friday, February 6, 2004, 5:08:41 PM, you wrote: RO That's really weird, since they arrived here in the good order RO (creation time matches with reception time), so it could be just you. Yep. Apparently it is. Not to worry. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OT: Coffee
Mary- Saturday, February 7, 2004, 3:50:43 AM, you wrote: MRB prospective father whom a country doctor has told to go down to the MRB kitchen and boil some water. :) ...for coffee no doubt... M Hm! That coffee! :) MRB Yes! Time for another cup. :) that's all the encouragement I needed. Off I go... -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP: too many recipients / own SMTP server / PHP mailer
dAniel- Saturday, February 7, 2004, 6:40:08 PM, you wrote: dh As said to Chris it has been sent.. dh Strange. Very strange. It probably depends on the software the ISP is using. My experience with this before is that none of the messages were sent until the addressee list was fixed up. dh This is so nasty.. R How many recipients did your message have? dh One in To:, 15 in CC. Maybe that's the difference: you had the extra addresses in the CC: line rather than the To: line. Even so, I wouldn't think 15 addresses would be out of line. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: Coffee
Mary- Saturday, February 7, 2004, 3:03:42 PM, you wrote: MRB to tbot, for both of us, and I deserve the trout I'm probably going to MRB get for even responding here. :) But, SCNR! Yes, I'll take that as a virtual trout and go fishing elsewhere. Oh, all right... I'll bite... SCNR? Stampeding Cats Never Run? Seven Campus Nuns Rescued? Some Cheaters Nag Relentlessly? Second Cup's Not Ready? -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scroll Wheel Problem
Wayne- Thursday, February 5, 2004, 9:40:11 PM, you wrote: WH The problem does not occur with Microsoft mice. Unfortunately, WH Microsoft does not make any mice that fit my hand correctly. Then I fail to see why this is a TB problem. You should be on Logitech's case to fix their driver, although I'm interested in what the problem is just from a geek perspective. The point about hand-fitting is well taken. MS has their own ideas about ergonomics (and everything else). -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scroll Wheel Problem
Wayne- Friday, February 6, 2004, 11:29:06 AM, you wrote: WH partially recognize the scroll settings. It's still not scrolling a WH screen at a time when it does work. Sometimes it is more than a WH screen. Stefan replied that he thinks he's solved the problem - the mouse driver apparently sends a non-standard message from the scroll wheel, and he's accomodating in in the next release. WH I think I misunderstood what you said here in my last reply. Sorry. g Meanwhile, I'm here staring at a MS ergonomic keyboard that was recommended by a client and trying to get my hands into MS's version of how I *should* be typing. My typing speed has slowed down considerably and my typos-per-minute rate has gone way up. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
digest mode problem
Bats- I'm having interesting symptoms today: my digest mode messages are arriving out of sequence. TBUDL digest vol 183 issue 18 arrived three hours after issue 19. Makes for quite a disjointed reading experience. I checked the sending time, so it's not just me. Weird. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scroll Wheel Problem - I may have figured it out!
Wayne- Sounds like the problem is nailed, but I'm with that developer on this one: I would assume that a -1 returned from a number-of-lines API call would mean an error condition occurred. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scroll Wheel Problem
Stefan- Thursday, February 5, 2004, 1:30:09 PM, you wrote: FWIW, my MS Wheel Optical Mouse 1.1A works flawlessly, too, once I discovered the trick of selecting the proper pane... -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I kinda like my Bat :)
Mary- Sunday, January 25, 2004, 10:44:41 AM, you wrote: MRB Glad I didn't miss the mark too much. :) Ouch. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
a happy beginning
ken- Friday, January 23, 2004, 11:39:16 PM, you wrote: kg Well, I've got the Christmas Edition running on my laptop. Thanks g I think it's a real testimony to the dedication folks have to TB that you were willing to go through all that to get it back. Glad you're running again. /g -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: uninstalling The Bat!
Leif- Friday, January 23, 2004, 7:20:41 AM, you wrote: kg AbacusBat! - Uninstall kg This will remove AbacausBat! Continue? LG ,-- [ From http://www.esqwiredconsulting.com/update.htm ] LG | New Integrated Email AbacusBat is an integrated custom version of the I'm always wary of integrated custom versions of *anything*. My guess is that the registry entries ken's looking for will be more in the Abacus-related areas, although now that he's started doing all this by hand, the chances of this coming out well aren't good. I also wouldn't hold out much hope for a mixture of the Abacus stuff and a new non-Abacus version of TB working together. Since it's all integrated, a better solution would probably be to upgrade the whole Abacus package at once, with whatever AbacusBat comes bundled. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I kinda like my Bat :)
MAU- You've got 65 messages in your Must Reply folder that are 60 days old! No wonder you never write... -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! with shared message folders on a network drive: has version 2 got any file locking?
Maksym- Saturday, January 17, 2004, 8:47:02 PM, you wrote: I've never had any problems with locking in a multi-user environment, but then I'm using v1.63. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: inbox corrupted - Christmas Edition (reposted)
Mike- Sunday, January 18, 2004, 2:19:18 AM, you wrote: MF OK, my TEMP directory is now 74MB. !!! Mine is zero k. Even my WINNT\TEMP directory is only 2k (after cleaning). -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: application/ms-tnef
MAU- I would love to see a Tools plugin API for TB that would allow us to do things like that. But for now plugins are only for antivirus, antispam, and macro development. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can I import TB into Outlook?
Julian- Sunday, January 4, 2004, 5:49:57 AM, you wrote: JBL I use TB to directly access the Exchange Server, so I can continue to JBL use TB to send and receive work email. I found that just adding the JBL name of our Exchange Server in the Mail Server box in the account JBL properties|transport worked fine with my logon details. I believe this will only work if pop access is enabled on the Exchange Server, and Steve Sawczyn said his employer has decided to disable pop access. It's off by default - I don't remember off the top of my head whether it can be enabled on an account-by-account basis or if it's a global switch. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: not receiving attachments
ken- Sunday, January 4, 2004, 8:16:18 PM, you wrote: kg The only thing I can think of that might be an issue is that the kg messages in question are both affected by a filter that moves them to a kg common folder, and I have the attachment option set not to store with kg message, but in a specific folder. (grasping at straws, here...) Nope - that's how I have mine set, too, and messages moved with filters still have attachments ...er... attached... -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: not receiving attachments
ken- Sunday, January 4, 2004, 5:43:03 PM, you wrote: kg Since I first noticed it missing, I have restarted both TB and my kg computer - I suspect one of those may have fixed the problem. How long do you go without rebooting your computer? Windows likes to be rebooted every so often in order to rebuild its driver tables, especially if you've installed something new or changed some system setting. (or if there's unusual sunspot activity or if it's a day ending with the letter y). I now make sure I shut down my computers every night and restart them in the morning to give the house of cards called an operating system a chance to rebuild things. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Happy New Year Moldova
Bill- Cool. 99% literacy rate !!! -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2.0 Underwhelmed...
Edgar- Tuesday, December 23, 2003, 12:51:04 AM, you wrote: E Although the help here in this group is great, It should not need E to exist. There should be a good help system. Companies do not Of course, if a good help system were a prerequisite then nobody would buy any MS products. The built-in help system is certainly one of TB's weaker points, but the day TB comes out with one of those damn talking paper clips, I'm outa here... -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
scnr
Martin- Speedy Collection of Non-sequitur Replies (thanks) -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving The Bat to a new PC
Thomas- Sunday, December 21, 2003, 6:30:43 AM, you wrote: TF There is a good configuration? rotfl (and spewing coffee all over my keyboard) TF scnr scnr? -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: html email help?
daveiw- Friday, December 19, 2003, 8:26:17 AM, you wrote: dcn Surely someone on this list can advise me on this please? Why not just create a web page and send them the url? BTW - your sig delimiter doesn't seem to be working... -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: application/ms-tnef
Chris- Sunday, December 7, 2003, 12:58:48 PM, you wrote: C In Microsoft Outlook 2003: Thanks. This solves a big mystery for me. Nobody has been able to explain to me where those damn .att attachments come from. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachment Name Problems
Julian- Thursday, November 20, 2003, 1:10:07 AM, you wrote: JBL ,- [ File Boundary - truncated file name] JBL | [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@11CBF JBL | Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=CRB JBL | Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 JBL `- I don't think this is TB's fault. Here's part of the header for a pdf file I received as an attachment. It came through fine. Spaces and punctuation and all. That octet-stream encoding may be the key, though. Content-Type: application/pdf; x-mac-type=50444620; x-mac-creator=4341524F; name=YOU ARE INVITED!.pdf Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Description: Unknown Document Content-Disposition: inline; filename=YOU ARE INVITED!.pdf -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Security concerns
rich- Friday, November 14, 2003, 7:13:05 PM, you wrote: rg AFTER TB! was installed (and after TB knew to place attachments in it's own rg default directory) I moved the attachment directory and the files within so rg of course now TB thinks the (affected) attachments are 0-byte files! Anyone? The Account | Properties | Files Directories | Directory setting should get you what you want. Point it to where you moved the directory and that oughta do it. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
alt-click!
Allie- Thursday, November 13, 2003, 2:52:29 PM, you wrote: AM - Very much in its favour and that which I use a lot for searching is AM the alt-click filter. If you hold down the Alt key while clicking on any AM item in the message list, TB! will display only those messages that AM contain the same item you clicked on. This can be any item in the AM message list, i.e., a From name, subject, attachment, flag status, AM message flag attribute. !!! Alt-click !!! That's way useful, but it took some doing to figure out how to un-alt-click to get them all back again... at any rate, I learned something new. Thanks. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: alt-click!
Allie- Thursday, November 13, 2003, 7:37:05 PM, you wrote: Hmmmpph! Well, I don't know about any of those, but *I* went to View | Display | Advanced Filtering | Header | uncheck the filter ...PITA if you ask me... I was hoping that shift-alt-click would do it, but no... -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: replies and cutlines
ken- Wednesday, November 12, 2003, 9:43:49 AM, you wrote: kg The Bat's over-zealousness with deleting after cut marks is causing me kg problems. Again, I am reminded of Word features that drive me nuts kg like this. OK, great feature now how do I TURN IT OFF!?! Well, basically Simon has laid out the sequence of events that will do what you want. However, expecting TB to ignore cut marks would be asking the developers to violate RFC-2646 in much the same way that Microsoft's developers did with OE. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat Alternatives
rich- Monday, November 10, 2003, 9:05:39 AM, you wrote: rg In fact, almost ALL of the arrow-key commands do not work as they are rg supposed to. Highlighting, deleting, and inserting characters don't rg work as they should either in the MicroEd editor. No wonder I've Shift+arrows? They work here. Insert? Delete? They work. What are you talking about? rg The Bat! does not corretly use STANDARD editing keystrokes. Are you referring to ctrl-C, ctrl-V, ctrl-X? They work here. rg Try cutting and pasting (esp between the body, the TO:, FROM:, SUBJECT, etc)! rg Try highlighting ANY of the hedaer fields when creating a rg message (to, say delete one or 2 names from a list of addressees rg or to shorten the subject line)! Hmmm... all these work fine for me. Always have. Have you remapped your keyboard shortcuts? -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What is unique about TB?
Simon- Thursday, November 6, 2003, 6:02:12 PM, you wrote: K So, I must look at alternatives. S I really think you'd be making a mistake Kitty. If you are having I think it's never a mistake to look into alternatives. At the very least it may give you something to suggest for enhancements. I do look around every once in a while, just to see what else is out there. And each time I do I realize that there's nothing that even comes close to fitting my needs for an email client. I'd have to redesign my workflow completely if I had to switch to something else. I *do* use Eudora on my macs, but only because there's no TB client for OSX. Although, since OSX is built somewhat around FreeBSD, if the fabled TB linux client ever materializes I'll be switching over without thinking twice about it. Eudora's interface has always seemed too cartoony to me. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error Could not export message
Gerard- I would get the could not export message error on a client-server system where TB running as a server didn't have read access to the machine holding the document. If you're running on a single computer then I'm stumped. Have you tried moving the document to a different folder and attaching it? Do you have different user accounts on your computer? Are you logged in to windows as an administrator? -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Translations
Melissa- Sunday, November 2, 2003, 12:23:35 PM, you wrote: MR In any vulgar translation from one language to another, there can be MR interesting cultural connotations inferred. I guess that because in ...And don't miss http://www.tashian.com/multibabel/ -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP info display
Roelof- Sunday, November 2, 2003, 12:34:03 AM, you wrote: RO MIME singing is merely a waste of time. ...unless it's accompaniment to air guitar... -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! 2
Douglas- Friday, October 31, 2003, 10:39:32 PM, you wrote: DH Could you tell me exactly how you have your transport configuration DH settings set up? (Particularly with regard to the authentication). DH TIA Basically, I followed the instructions on mail15.com's web site. They're very specific about the fact that you need to have authentication turned on. Transport: SMTP server: smtp.mail15.com Connection: regular Authentication: Perform SMTP Authentication [RFC 2554] Use specific settings: User: username (without the @mail15.com) Password: password I also have POP before SMTP authentication checked, but just because I do that on all my accounts. Probably isn't necessary. HTH. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: bring mole recipe
DZ-Jay- Saturday, November 1, 2003, 4:29:02 AM, you wrote: ... and let me point out for us vegetarians that it's also excellent over lightly sauteed Portabella mushrooms. ... and trout ... -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Too many 0 byte batXXX.tmp files under %temp% dir
Thomas- Saturday, November 1, 2003, 7:26:54 AM, you wrote: TF Bat droppings is the only problem I have with Win98... apart from TF having to reboot every couple of hours. No other suddenly appearing TF files, though. My big problem with Win98 was having to reinstall the OS every six months. I'm *so* glad to have that in my past... I hate to say this about a Microsoft product, but win2k has been amazingly stable for me. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: bring mole recipe
Melissa- Friday, October 31, 2003, 1:05:38 AM, you wrote: MR We're still waiting for the mole recipe. :-) No moles around here. Would you settle for gopher? -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: bring mole recipe
DZ-Jay- Friday, October 31, 2003, 2:45:24 AM, you wrote: Powered by The Bat! v1.62r Hindered by MS Windows 2000 build 5.0.2195 Service Pack 3 ...and I love the tag line... -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! 2
Douglas- Friday, October 31, 2003, 8:12:46 AM, you wrote: DH Sign up and try it out - if your like. LookOut even works with it. DH mail15.com is Russian and has a link for configuring TB! to work DH with it, but the link itself doesn't work the last time I looked. I use my mail15 account with TB all the time. No special configuration necessary - it worked from the first time I tried it. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can I have both 1.62 and 2.0 on the same PC?
net5zero- Thursday, October 30, 2003, 1:37:02 AM, you wrote: nnn And have both version accessing the same account folders -- i.e. nnn I'll point the v2 to the same directories as my v1.62? Do the two nnn version have the same file formats? Yes. And mostly. nnn With respect to attachments (in Account Properties), is it better to nnn keep it in separate folders or in message bodies? YMMV. This is quite a can of worms. Depends on whom you ask, when you ask, sunspots, phase of the moon, etc. I *always* keep attachments in separate folders. I've had too many problems over the years with corrupted message base files. They aren't frequent, but they're disastrous when they occur. And trying to parse the database files with a hex editor is *much* easier if you're looking at straight text without binary attachments getting in the way. But, other folks have other opinions and have had different experiences. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Account General Settings
Rob- Thursday, October 30, 2003, 3:27:08 PM, you wrote: R the whole Help/F1 seems a bit 'incomplete' ... incomplete is probably the nicest thing I've heard anybody call TB's help system in a long time... -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! 2
Douglas- Monday, October 27, 2003, 6:47:47 PM, you wrote: DH What kind of plugins? Third-party spam control and macro extensions. MW The folder and file formats are the same and you shouldn't have MW any trouble switching back and forth. DH Does that hold true for 1.62, 1.63 v. 2? 1.62 is a country I haven't visited, so I can't comment about it. However, it *is* the same as 1.53d, so I wouldn't expect any surprises. On the other hand, that's what surprises are all about, no? Nothing beats a thorough recent backup. DH You hadn't backed up your hard drive(s). g yes, it's all backed up regularly, but for something like this it's easier not to try to restore from the backup archives. /g The problem was that Win2k doesn't like you installing new motherboards. Tends to get a wee bit confused. Then installing SP2 over an SP4 installation increases the confusion. Took the best part of a day. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! 2
Douglas- Tuesday, October 28, 2003, 3:25:15 PM, you wrote: DH After Wed. Thurs. tomorrow and the day after) the cost doubles. Actually the cost goes to normal instead of being heavily discounted. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! 2
Douglas- Sunday, October 26, 2003, 3:09:25 PM, you wrote: 1.63 allows for the use of plugins, which you're not using anyway in 1.62. That's about it, except for some SmartBat / scheduling features. If missing out on these doesn't bother you, then there's no reason to go hunt down one of the betas. The folder and file formats are the same and you shouldn't have any trouble switching back and forth. I was actually using beta 9 for a bit, but then I had to rebuild this computer a couple of days ago and lost the link. I'll have to put it back and get back to SP4 at the same time. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! 2
Douglas- Saturday, October 25, 2003, 5:55:51 PM, you wrote: DH Does this mean v. 2 can be installed without replacing (along side DH of) v. 1.x? Yes. I've gone back and forth several times (and expect to do more of the same). V2 seems fine unless you need the multiuser networking features (I do), in which case I'm sticking with v1.63 for now. I keep both copies in TB's directory, named tb163.exe and tb200.exe. I just copy one or the other to the_bat.exe and restart TB. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: the difference?
Peter- Sunday, October 26, 2003, 11:13:15 AM, you wrote: PM The .tbb file contains the messages' contents, whereas the .tbi contains PM their properties (like flagged, or replied etc.). Close, but not exactly... the attributes (flagged, deleted, replied, etc.) are stored in the .tbi file but are also stored in the .tbb file, so you don't lose the attributes if you delete the .tbi file and let TB rebuild it. The only thing you lose would be attached memos. Stefan - enhancement request: I'd love to see memos stored in a separate file so they don't get lost during a rebuild. For me this is the one thing that prevents memos from being useful. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: the difference?
Peter- Sunday, October 26, 2003, 2:46:08 PM, you wrote: PO http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0001866 Er... yes... that's what I mean. Glad it's in the bug tracker already. And let me add an emphatic aol-style me, too to that. I don't think ritlabs' bug tracker has a way to count the number of times a feature has been requested, but I'd add me to the list if there were. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Purchased the Bat!
Darrin- Sunday, October 26, 2003, 7:51:47 AM, you wrote: D lol! I think I say that about every day. I always find features that I D didnt know were there. Ditto here, although I usually find features because of discussion on this list. I'll take tbudl over documentation any day! -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SMS messages and cell phones
Thomas- Tuesday, October 21, 2003, 7:49:25 PM, you wrote: TF I had an email-address for my cell phone for a while, but Svetlana TF from Russia kept sending me her love at 3am - especially when I was TF travelling abroad, so I had to pay the internationla roaming fee in TF addition to having been woken up. :-( No more email to my cell phone! Am I the only one who thinks it's hilarious that when cell phones receive text messages they beep S-M-S in Morse code? Does anyone even know Morse code anymore? I was on a train the first time this happened and I couldn't stop laughing. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: working on a pgp merit badge...
NA By the way Allie, your Key has expired. Are you simply going to change NA the expiry date... or generate an entirely new Key? ...and if you generate a new key, wouldn't that invalidate your whole argument for sending signed messages to the listserv? -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Vasiliy- This is very cool. I didn't realize I could display Cyrillic characters without changing the language set. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: working on a pgp merit badge...
Peter- PM Not if this key was signed with the old (expired) one... :-) ...thanks, I think... -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error message on TB Backup
Greg- Try the Folder | Maintenance | Check Integrity/Repair option. That's worked for me in the past. The message database files are stored as linked lists. Every so often the links can get damaged, especially (in my experience) if you have attachments stored in-line. The Repair option seems to do a good job of fixing up the links most of the time. If you've got more serious damage than that, it may be time to bring up a hex file editor and patch the links yourself. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
