Scheduling Backups
I have set up the Scheduler to backup at 6:15pm every day. The scheduler seems to have a mind of it's own, though. For instance, it just performed a backup (at ~9am). Any suggestions on how to keep the scheduler working according to the time I have specified? -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.99.1 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Corrupt Backup
I lost my hard drive yesterday. Now I find out that my backup of TheBat! is corrupted (Error reading file ...). Do I have any options? Is there any way I can investigate the backup to recover even some data. My e-mail is the only significant loss on the hard drive. Everything else was on the server. Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.95.6 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Filtering Read Messages
MFPA, Sunday, April 29, 2007, 3:42:12 PM, you wrote: M Hi M On Friday 27 April 2007 at 4:40:40 PM, in M mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael Rudnick M wrote: I want to be able to read and process the messages that appear in my Inbox. Once I'm done with the message, I usually file it for future reference. My goal in filtering *read* messages is to automate the filing process. M You could always use incoming filters to do the filing but set up M a virtual folder to view all unread messages in any folder. That M way, already filed and disappears from the virtual folder when you M mark it as read. That is an interesting approach. I may consider it. thanks for pointing it out. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.99.1 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Filtering Read Messages
Doug, Sunday, April 29, 2007, 3:55:37 PM, you wrote: DH Messages are marked read automatically when viewed for six seconds. DH (I would forget to mark them as read otherwise). But then, If I DH determine a message needs action, I flag the message. Good use of flagging. I may use this in my filtering approach. DH I'm not totally there yet, my inbox has a couple thousand messages, I heard that problems can occur if leaving messages in the Inbox. You may want to move read messages into a 'Hold' folder. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.99.1 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Filtering Read Messages
Roger, Saturday, April 28, 2007, 12:41:05 AM, you wrote: RP Hello Michael, RP Friday, April 27, 2007, 2:59:52 PM, among other things, you wrote: MR I'm experimenting with using filters for read messages. MR Any other suggestions on filtering read messages would be appreciated. MR RP There is one problem you should be aware of: RP I am assuming that you may be new to The Bat! and may not know that RP you can navigate through a list of messages just by using the space RP bar. If the message is long enough 'Space' moves one down the message RP and eventually moves one to the next unread message. At this point it RP marks the message you are leaving as 'Read' and this triggers any RP 'Read' filter, *except* if the message is the last one in the folder; RP for this last message you have to mark the message manually as 'Read' RP for the filter to trigger. RP I reported this problem in July 2005 but it has never been fixed. I'm not new to TheBat. I did notice this problem, though when messages were automatically moving after I checked them. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.99.1 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Filtering Read Messages
MAU, Friday, April 27, 2007, 7:45:03 PM, you wrote: M Hello Michael, I'm experimenting with using filters for read messages. I've been filtering incoming mail for some time with good success. My goal is to have mail from common people or domains automatically go to the proper folder after I'm done with it. M What you want to do is similar to the set up I have. M - I have addresses for what you call 'common people' in my address book M and they all belong to a same Group. M - I have an Incoming filter that checks if Sender belongs to Group and, M if so, the message is moved to a folder that I called 'My Inbox'. M - In Account/Properties/Options I have disabled (deselected) the 'Mark M message as read when it has been read for..' so that messages are NOT M marked as read after N seconds. I want to decide when I am _done_ with a M message and I manually mark them as read with Ctrl+M (Actually, I have M customised this to use Space). M - It is this manually marking as read what triggers Read filters, and I M basically have two, both of them only looking (applying) to My Inbox M folder: MFilter 1.- If the message IS flagged, the message is moved to an M'Action-Reply' folder. (This way, if I want to reply later or take Mfurther action, I flag the message before marking it as Read). MFilter 2.- This filter will only trigger if 1 hasn't but, anyway, it Mchecks if the message is NOT flagged and then moves the message to Mfolder '\\Account\Group\%ABFromName'. M - I then have a Replied filter that similarly to Read filter 2, looks M only to folder 'Action-Reply' and moves the replied message to M '\\Account\Group\%ABFromName'. This one, together with an Outgoing M filter that checks if Address groups. Group contain first recipient, M move both the message I have just replied to and my own reply to folder M '\\Account\Group\%ABFromName'. M HTH. But if something is not clear enough or you need more detail, M please ask. So now I have a few questions for the experts! - If 'Manual' is not selected, when is mail filtered in a folder? M AFAIK, when manually marking it as read. - Will mail filter out of any folder? If so, I guess I can use a condition to only filter out of the Inbox. M Read and Replied filters have an extra 'Folders' tab where you can M select if the filter applies to 'Any folder' or just to one or more M folders. - I put a button on the toolbar to refilter. It's now 3 clicks to filter a folder (Refilter button, OK, Close). Is there any way to have the refilter process run without as much interaction (fewer clicks)? M Not that I know of. But I think you don't really need to use M 'Re-filter'. I just flagged your message. I'll have to look at a bit more thoroughly when I have a chance. I'm going to take your ideas and let the read filters work automatically. Just need a few minutes to wrap my mind around this. Thanks for the suggestions. I may write back when I'm actually implementing this. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.99.1 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filtering Read Messages
I'm experimenting with using filters for read messages. I've been filtering incoming mail for some time with good success. My goal is to have mail from common people or domains automatically go to the proper folder after I'm done with it. I started with people who I often receive mail from. I set up a few filters and noticed that the messages filter automatically, using a pattern that I'm not aware of. Sometimes I had read the message but wasn't done with it. I then had to hunt down the message and process it. Since then I turned all the filters to manual, to make sure that I choose when to filter the mail. So now I have a few questions for the experts! - If 'Manual' is not selected, when is mail filtered in a folder? - Will mail filter out of *any* folder? If so, I guess I can use a condition to only filter out of the Inbox. - I put a button on the toolbar to refilter. It's now 3 clicks to filter a folder (Refilter button, OK, Close). Is there any way to have the refilter process run without as much interaction (fewer clicks)? Any other suggestions on filtering read messages would be appreciated. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.99.1 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Filtering Read Messages
Richard, Friday, April 27, 2007, 10:15:10 AM, you wrote: RW Hello Michael, RW On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 you wrote in RW mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MR Any other suggestions on filtering read messages would be appreciated. RW Why don't you just filter them to their respective folders as soon as RW they arrive in your inbox and then read them in situ in the folders. It RW seems (unless I've completely misunderstood) that you filter all your RW messages to various folders *after* reading anyway? Good suggestion. For all my newsletters, newsgroups, etc, I'm already filtering them into other folders. When I finish reading those messages, I just delete the message. I'm looking for a way to manage the important mail. I want to be able to read and process the messages that appear in my Inbox. Once I'm done with the message, I usually file it for future reference. My goal in filtering *read* messages is to automate the filing process. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.99.1 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Selecting Plain Text or HTML in Macro
I'd like to be able to send messages to certain people in Plain Text, To others in HTML/Plain. I have a toolbar that allows me to select the message format. Is there any way to do that through a macro? If not, any other options? -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.98.4 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Selecting Plain Text or HTML in Macro
Alexander, Thursday, April 12, 2007, 5:39:38 PM, you wrote: ASK Hello Michael Rudnick everyone else, snip ASK If its possible for you, you can add the people that you wish to send ASK HTML messages to into an AB group with a template for the AB group that ASK sets the editor to HTML (simply add %seteditor=3%- somewhere in the ASK template). If thats not possible, you could use one of the AB fields ASK that you don't use (job title, memo, whatever) to add HTML or ASK something there, check the existence with a %IF macro clause, and set ASK the editor accordingly. Or just create a custom template for that person. Thanks. This is just what I wanted. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.98.4 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Marking As Junk
I use the 'Mark As Junk' feature regularly. I've added it as a button and it's worked fine until recently. Now, if I mark a message as junk when I'm in my two main accounts, the message is not moved into my Junk folder. On one of my other accounts, the message is moved when I mark as junk. Any suggestions regarding how to fix this? -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.98.1 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.98 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Size of files on Disk
I have been moving around folders to better organize things. After deleting several large messages and some attachments in one folder, I did a compress. I expected that the size of the TBB and TBI files would change. In fact, it didn't reduce by a significant amount. I also moved all the messages in a folder to another one and did a compress on the original folder. The file sizes are still the same. What am I doing wrong? -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.95.6 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Recovering Toolbars from Old Computer
MFPA, Thursday, January 11, 2007, 10:35:40 AM, you wrote: M Hi M On Thursday 11 January 2007 at 2:37:04 PM, in M mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Mary Bull wrote: More curiously, TB!'s temp folder *is* in the App Data folder, here. M I have no temp folder under %programfiles%\The Bat! or under M %appdata%\The Bat!. Here, bat*.tmp files can sometimes be M found in the %temp% directory. I did some more checking on this and found tbuser.def in C:\Documents and Settings\Michael\Application Data\The Bat! All of my toolbars are there, but... I had to create a toolbar in the Customize toolbar interface. Then I could go into the file and add the code for the buttons (using a backup of the file). The toolbar creation interface has clearly been dumbed down. I'm a bit surprised. In the file there is a 'container' command which allows a multiple use button (like the Receive new mail button in the Standard toolbar). Once it's added in the tbuser.def file, it shows up properly in the Customize toolbar interface. Not sure why they removed this feature. It's still there, just not available to the average user. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.95.6 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Adding a drop-down arrow to a toolbar (was: Help: Does Anyone Know About Setting Up Toolbars?)
Martin, Thursday, January 11, 2007, 12:20:14 PM, you wrote: MS Hello Michael, - How do I set up a button that has a drop-down arrow, similar to the 'Receive new mail' button. MS That is a functionality well hidden in TB's deep muddy waters... MS 1. In the Customize dialog choose Create new container (it's the 4th MSbutton from the top between actions and layout list). A new MStoolbar container (with a triangle on the right) is created. Select MSit. MS 2. Select the action you want to have in that container in the MSAction List and press Shift and the Insert Item button (its MSthe first button from the top). The item should be added to your MScontainer. Interesting. I must have missed this. This feature still doesn't give me what I want, although it's close. I want to be able to recreate some of the buttons that are on the Standard toolbar. With them you can click on the button to chose a default action or click on the drop-down arrow to choose an alternate action. I did find a way to do this but it's using the tbuser.def file in the Docs and settings folder. I commented on it in my other e-mail on this subject, 'Re:Recovering Toolbars from Old Computer'. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.95.6 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Adding a drop-down arrow to a toolbar (was: Help: Does Anyone Know About Setting Up Toolbars?)
MAU, Thursday, January 11, 2007, 7:31:33 PM, you wrote: M Hello Michael, Interesting. I must have missed this. This feature still doesn't give me what I want, although it's close. I want to be able to recreate some of the buttons that are on the Standard toolbar. With them you can click on the button to chose a default action or click on the drop-down arrow to choose an alternate action. M If I understand what you want, do this: M - Click 'Create new Toolbar' button, not _container_, give it a name and, M when you OK, it will appear in the left window as a new container under M Main Form. M - Select the new toolbar. In Actions, select the one you want to be the M default for the button and insert it into the Layout window which should M still be blank. You can also select now the icon for the button. M - Select this first (default) action in layout and in Actions window M select and shift+insert the action you want to be the first in your M drop down list. M - You can now add (insert) more actions in the drop down list. If in M Layout you select one of the second level (drop down) actions you can M now just insert (without shift) a new action below it. You only need to M shift+insert if the top level (default) action is selected. Aha! You have the answer. Why is this so confusing (Shift+insert)? If there is this type of flexibility, there should be documentation. Thanks for your comments. I'm going to save your e-mail for the time that I forget how to do it. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.95.6 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Help: Does Anyone Know About Setting Up Toolbars?
I posted yesterday but didn't get any replies. Is it true that no one knows how to set up toolbars in TB? I need to know: - How do I set up a button that has a drop-down arrow, similar to the 'Receive new mail' button. - How do I change the size of the buttons? Is there nowhere where this information is documented? If not, why?? Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.95.6 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Help: Does Anyone Know About Setting Up Toolbars?
Terry, Tuesday, January 9, 2007, 3:28:38 PM, you wrote: TM Hello Michael, TM Tuesday, January 9, 2007, 10:19:54 AM, you wrote: - How do I set up a button that has a drop-down arrow, similar to the 'Receive new mail' button. TM Sorry can't help. So how did I do this on my other computer? It appears that they took away some functionality here. - How do I change the size of the buttons? TM I remember getting help from Mary on changing the size of the icons TM within TB!. Here is what Mary had me do. TM Find the batskin.xml file in the root directory of The Bat! Edit the TM file. Change 32x32 to 16x16 (or wherever you want) to change to a TM smaller size. snip Thanks. That did it. I seem to remember with an earlier implementation of the toolbars that I could do it in the Interface. Maybe I was dreaming. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.95.6 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Recovering Toolbars from Old Computer
I recently set up a new computer. I successfully moved TheBat and my messages over successfully. I'd like to move over my toolbars. I customized several items and don't want to go through the process again. Does anyone know where this might be stored? Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.95.6 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Recovering Toolbars from Old Computer
Roelof, Monday, January 8, 2007, 10:12:47 AM, you wrote: RO Hallo Michael, RO On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 18:26:58 -0500GMT (8-1-2007, 0:26 , where I live), RO you wrote: MR I recently set up a new computer. I successfully moved TheBat and my MR messages over successfully. I'd like to move over my toolbars. I customized MR several items and don't want to go through the process again. MR Does anyone know where this might be stored? RO In the tbuser.def file in your mail directory. RO In case you're using OTFE it's called tbuser.eef, but that can only be RO used when you're using the same master password. Not sure what is OFTE. I found the file and had already moved it. On the old pc, I have an new toolbar. I can see reference to it in the tbuser.def file but I don't see it when I go to View, Toolbars. Any other suggestions? -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.95.6 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Recovering Toolbars from Old Computer
Roelof, Monday, January 8, 2007, 12:17:29 PM, you wrote: RO Hallo Michael, RO On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 11:10:12 -0500GMT (8-1-2007, 17:10 , where I live), RO you wrote: MR I recently set up a new computer. I successfully moved TheBat and my MR messages over successfully. I'd like to move over my toolbars. I customized MR several items and don't want to go through the process again. MR Does anyone know where this might be stored? RO In the tbuser.def file in your mail directory. RO In case you're using OTFE it's called tbuser.eef, but that can only be RO used when you're using the same master password. MR Not sure what is OFTE. RO On The Fly Encryption: encrypted message base. OK. Don't use it. I restored from the backup I created and didn't change anything on the new PC. MR I found the file and had already moved it. RO Did you close and restart TB on your new system? Yes, I've restarted the computer several times since tht file was put in that location. MR On the old pc, I have an new toolbar. I can see reference to it in MR the tbuser.def file but I don't see it when I go to View, MR Toolbars. RO You wouldn't per chance use encryption on your new system, would you? RO I guess the unencrypted tbuser.def from your old pc wouldn't work in RO that case. MR Any other suggestions? RO Not really, no. Frustrating. It would be so nice to simply copy this info over. Thanks for trying. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.95.6 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Recovering Toolbars from Old Computer
Michael, Monday, January 8, 2007, 12:26:49 PM, you wrote: MR Roelof, MR Monday, January 8, 2007, 12:17:29 PM, you wrote: RO Hallo Michael, RO On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 11:10:12 -0500GMT (8-1-2007, 17:10 , where I live), RO you wrote: MR I recently set up a new computer. I successfully moved TheBat and my MR messages over successfully. I'd like to move over my toolbars. I customized MR several items and don't want to go through the process again. MR Does anyone know where this might be stored? RO In the tbuser.def file in your mail directory. RO In case you're using OTFE it's called tbuser.eef, but that can only be RO used when you're using the same master password. MR Not sure what is OFTE. RO On The Fly Encryption: encrypted message base. MR OK. Don't use it. I restored from the backup I created and didn't change MR anything on the new PC. MR I found the file and had already moved it. RO Did you close and restart TB on your new system? MR Yes, I've restarted the computer several times since tht file was put in MR that location. MR On the old pc, I have an new toolbar. I can see reference to it in MR the tbuser.def file but I don't see it when I go to View, MR Toolbars. RO You wouldn't per chance use encryption on your new system, would you? RO I guess the unencrypted tbuser.def from your old pc wouldn't work in RO that case. MR Any other suggestions? RO Not really, no. MR Frustrating. It would be so nice to simply copy this info over. MR Thanks for trying. Just a reply to my own message: I created a small toolbar, then closed and restarted TB. I then searched the computer and couldn't find a file that had been updated. The tbuser.def file still has a date stamp of Friday. So, it's a mystery where the toolbar information is located. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.95.6 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Creating a Toolbar
OK, now that I realize that I can't copy my customized toolbar from my old computer, I'm faced with recreating one on the new computer. Some questions: - Somehow, on the old computer, I set up toolbar buttons with a drop-down. I can't figure out how to do that now. - How do I change the size of the buttons? Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.95.6 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Question about Voyager
Alexander, Wednesday, January 3, 2007, 12:56:17 AM, you wrote: ASK Hello Mike Greenbaum everyone else, ASK on 03-Jan-2007 at 06:34 you (Mike Greenbaum) wrote: I'm a bit puzzled about Voyager. Does one buy it separately or does it come automatically with The Bat! Professional? ASK Its a part of the Pro license. I finally bit the bullet and am exploring Voyager. My current message store is 875MB. I don't need all of that on the flash drive. Is there a way to determine what folders in my store are synced onto the flash drive? Also, how do the messages get back into the desktop computer? Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.95.6 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Question about Voyager
Peter, Wednesday, January 3, 2007, 5:03:02 PM, you wrote: PM Hi Michael, PM on Wed, 3 Jan 2007 13:42:57 -0500GMT (03.01.07, 19:42 +0100GMT here), PM you (Michael Rudnick) wrote: MR I finally bit the bullet and am exploring Voyager. My current message store MR is 875MB. I don't need all of that on the flash drive. Is there a way to MR determine what folders in my store are synced onto the flash drive? Also, MR how do the messages get back into the desktop computer? PM Create a complete backup of your desktop TB!. When Voyager is PM installed select Tools -- Restore and point it to your backup. Then PM you can choose, which parts of it (accounts or folders) you want to PM have in Voyager. The messages don't need to get back on the desktop PM computer, because they never leave it. I see the Restore dialog. My choices are: Account Properties Folders with Messages Address Books Global Options If I uncheck the Folders with Messages, I get the folder structure with no messages. I don't see any way to selectively restore some folders and not others. Regarding my second question, let me give an example. I'm away from my main computer. I plug my flash drive into another computer and download messages. I send a few messages. How do the downloaded messages and my sent messages get back to my main computer? Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.95.6 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Question about Voyager
Andrew, Wednesday, January 3, 2007, 9:39:25 PM, you wrote: AD On 1/3/07, Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AD snip Regarding my second question, let me give an example. I'm away from my main computer. I plug my flash drive into another computer and download messages. I send a few messages. How do the downloaded messages and my sent messages get back to my main computer? AD Voyager is a stand-alone email client. I got bit by that, too. It's AD not meant to be TB when you're away, it's really a separate mailbase. AD So, when I bought TB! to use at work, I just started using Voyager for AD my home email. AD Don't let the sync options in the menus fool you -- they don't work AD (so says Ritlabs support). Or, they're really not for syncing between AD TB! and Voyager, anyway. Okay, that makes sense. I'll just use it to look at mail in a familiar interface. It's easy enough to turn off the deleting from the server and I can send a bcc of my sent messages to myself. It's a shame there isn't much in the way of documentation. It also would be nice to have *some* kind of syncing. It's almost, but not quite, ready. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.95.6 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Filtering Tabs
Thomas, Wednesday, October 11, 2006, 9:17:00 AM, you wrote: TF Hello Michael, TF On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:03:59 -0400 GMT (11/10/2006, 01:03 +0700 GMT), TF Michael Rudnick wrote: TF I think if you want to create a permanent filter and access it by way TF of tab, you need to create a Virtual Folder. For this, you go to TF the Search Function, key in the condition, and run it. Then you go to TF the Advanced tab and click on Virtual Folder. MR I'm missing something. MR Some time ago I created a couple of tabs. If I go to one of the tabs, it is MR automatically filtered. TF How did you create the tabs, if not by the way I suggested? MR If I go to View, Display, Advanced Filtering I see 'Subject MR Contains . I don't see any place where a Virtual Folder is MR referenced. TF No, I am not talking about View / Display. I am talking about the TF Search function, this icon which looks like a magnifying glass. TF Alternatively, hit F7. I know the Search function. Based on your comments above, I created a new Virtual Folder that has the filtering that I want. I then created a tab based on the folder. MR I only have a few Virtual Folders. None of them have this MR filtering. TF Right-click on the Virtual Folder, choose Properties / Filter. My bet TF is that there is a condition which you entered the way I described. TF Again, I don't know about any other way to create a Virtual Folder. MR So how did I create this? Also, how do I change the filter and have it MR saved permanently? TF See whether you find the Search function I mean. And you can change the TF filter in the Properties of the Virtual Folder. I finally figured this out. Previously I had created View Modes. I created a filter on the View Mode and used that View Mode for a tab. I guess that this is an alternative to the Virtual Folder approach that you showed me. This again confirms the power of TB. Unfortunately, the power doesn't always come with training wheels. Thanks for helping me review this. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.85.03 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filtering Tabs
I've been using tabs more often recently. I'm now trying to set up a tab to filter a folder. I see how I can create the tab. I also see that when on that tab, I can go to View, Display, Advanced Filtering and filter the information. But after moving off of the tab, the filter gets lost. 1. What am I missing? 2. I think that filtering should be a right-click of the tab. Otherwise it's too complex. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Filtering Tabs
Thomas, Tuesday, October 10, 2006, 1:15:25 PM, you wrote: TF Hello Michael, TF On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:37:43 -0400 GMT (10/10/2006, 20:37 +0700 GMT), TF Michael Rudnick wrote: MR I've been using tabs more often recently. I'm now trying to set up a tab to MR filter a folder. I see how I can create the tab. I also see that when on MR that tab, I can go to View, Display, Advanced Filtering and filter the MR information. But after moving off of the tab, the filter gets lost. MR 1. What am I missing? TF I think if you want to create a permanent filter and access it by way TF of tab, you need to create a Virtual Folder. For this, you go to TF the Search Function, key in the condition, and run it. Then you go to TF the Advanced tab and click on Virtual Folder. I'm missing something. Some time ago I created a couple of tabs. If I go to one of the tabs, it is automatically filtered. If I go to View, Display, Advanced Filtering I see 'Subject Contains . I don't see any place where a Virtual Folder is referenced. I only have a few Virtual Folders. None of them have this filtering. So how did I create this? Also, how do I change the filter and have it saved permanently? -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.85.03 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Scheduling Backups
Alexander, Sunday, June 25, 2006, 11:08:46 AM, you wrote: ASK Hello Michael Rudnick everyone else, ASK on 25-Jun-2006 at 16:42 you (Michael Rudnick) wrote: I'd like to set up an automatic backup, either using the scheduler or using other standard Windows tools. Can anyone give me a simple backup that I can rely on? ASK When TB is not running, press Windows+R and type ntbackup. Thats a ASK realiable backup program. :-) I'm familiar with NTBackup. I thought that for a successful reinstall (folders, accounts, etc.) I needed the backup within TheBat! If not, can I just backup the Program Files folders or are there other locations that should be backed up? ASK Inside TB you can use its own backup tool and schedule the backup as an ASK event (open scheduler, right click no insert a new event, under the ASK actions tab select backup). I assume that a backup job in the Scheduler only runs when TheBat! is running. No way to kick it off separately? -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.80.06 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Scheduling Backups
I know that this topic has been discussed before. I apologize for any repeat questions. I'm not sure how to search old messages. I'd like to set up an automatic backup, either using the scheduler or using other standard Windows tools. Can anyone give me a simple backup that I can rely on? Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Font for Account Tree
Richard, Sunday, June 11, 2006, 8:54:51 PM, you wrote: RW Hello Michael, RW On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 you wrote in RW mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MR Can anyone tell me where I can change the font for the Account Tree? RW Optons/Preferences/system. It's down the bottom. Thanks. Found it. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.80.06 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Font for Account Tree
I recently reinstalled all my programs onto a new Hard Disk. I'm fiddling with the fonts in TheBat! Can anyone tell me where I can change the font for the Account Tree? Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
MS Exchange Public Folders
I'm experimenting with using TheBat! for MS Exchange. I have been using it for some time with POP mailboxes. Is it possible to set up the viewing of Public folders with TheBat? Also, is it possible to see anything besides the mail folders in TheBat? Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.71.03 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Problem Reconfiguring TheBat!
Alexander, Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 6:54:26 AM, you wrote: ASK Hello Michael Rudnick everyone else, ASK on 14-Dez-2005 at 03:41 you (Michael Rudnick) wrote: I have a 'Bat' folder with a specific templates. Previously the templates would automatically appear when I started a new message in that folder. Now it doesn't. How do I fix this? ASK This is Marten Gallaghers favorite bug at the moment. ASK Please add a note to https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5367 and use ASK some kind words. ;-) Oh, I thought I was doing something wrong. It looks like the reply template works. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.62.14 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem Reconfiguring TheBat!
I had to reinstall TheBat! and am now having problems setting it up as it was previously. I have a 'Bat' folder with a specific templates. Previously the templates would automatically appear when I started a new message in that folder. Now it doesn't. How do I fix this? How do I change the size of the icons on the toolbars? Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Error on Exit with 3.62.14
Richard, Wednesday, November 16, 2005, 9:35:08 AM, you wrote: RN Hello Michael, RN Tuesday, November 15, 2005, 9:24:28 PM, you wrote: MR The problem I get is that whenever I exit (in 3.62.08, 3.62.09 and MR 3.62.14) I get an error. The error in the latest version is MR essentially the same as the earlier versions: MR Any suggestions? RN After backing up, try an uninstall and reinstall. If you've RN already done that, do an uninstall, remove all references to TB or RN RitLabs from your registry with regedit, reinstall. Technique #2 RN seems to always correct anomalies in individual machines. FWIW, I had to uninstall, removing the message base (after backing up). Then I renamed The Bat! program folder and installed into a new folder. That finally did the trick. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.62.14 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Error on Exit with 3.62.14
Richard, Wednesday, November 16, 2005, 9:35:08 AM, you wrote: RN Hello Michael, RN Tuesday, November 15, 2005, 9:24:28 PM, you wrote: MR The problem I get is that whenever I exit (in 3.62.08, 3.62.09 and MR 3.62.14) I get an error. The error in the latest version is MR essentially the same as the earlier versions: MR Any suggestions? RN After backing up, try an uninstall and reinstall. If you've RN already done that, do an uninstall, remove all references to TB or RN RitLabs from your registry with regedit, reinstall. Technique #2 RN seems to always correct anomalies in individual machines. Is there a list of the registry entries so that I don't have to hunt around for them? Also, Where is the license number that I will need to enter after doing this? Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.60.07 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Error on Exit with 3.62.14
Roelof, Wednesday, November 16, 2005, 11:29:09 AM, you wrote: RO Hallo Michael, RO On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:14:27 -0500GMT (16-11-2005, 16:14 +0100, where RO I live), you wrote: MR Is there a list of the registry entries so that I don't have to hunt MR around for them? RO Everything in the tree: RO HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT RO or maybe RO HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat! RO when you're using more stuff from them. MR Also, Where is the license number that I will need to enter after doing this? RO Restore the key: RO HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\RegistrationBlock RO Though opening the message you received from Ritlabs with your RO original key would do fine too. Thanks to all on this. I'll probably do on the weekend when I have some time. Hopefully all will go well. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.60.07 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Error on Exit with 3.62.14
I recently upgraded to the latest version to see if my error on exit has been resolved. It hasn't. The problem I get is that whenever I exit (in 3.62.08, 3.62.09 and 3.62.14) I get an error. The error in the latest version is essentially the same as the earlier versions: Access violation at address 00B47126 in module 'thebat.exe' Read of address 000C. The only difference in the error message is the first address. I have removed BayesIt! to see if that was a problem. I turned of compressing of folders. I even tested to see if there was a conflict with an existing program by booting in safe mode and opening the program there. I still get the error. I assume that others aren't getting this error, yet I continue to have the problem. I'm OK with 3.60 but not with succeeding versions. Any suggestions? -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.60.07 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:3.62.09 Error on Exit (was Re:3.62.08 Error on Exiting)
Alexander, Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 10:43:45 AM, you wrote: ASK Hello Michael Rudnick everyone else, ASK on 02-Nov-2005 at 00:22 you (Michael Rudnick) wrote: I turned off all the compression. I don't have an AV plug-in. I'm using the Bayes Filter plug-in. Should I remove that? ASK Yes, please try to remove all plugins you're using. Maybe there's a ASK compatibility issue, though you're the first to experience it. I'm still getting the error. I can do a maintenance without a problem. It just gives an error at exit time. ASK So its not the maintenance or any damaged folder. Thats good news. :) I don't really have the time to do bug testing for RIT Labs. I'll stay on 3.60 until this gets resolved. All works fine on this version. Thanks for your help on this. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.60.07 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
3.62.08 Error on Exiting
Since upgrading to 3.62.08 I have been getting an error when exiting. It goes through the compressing of folders and then I get the following error: Access violation at address 00B45232 in module 'thebat.exe' Read of address 000C. When I open it up again, all looks fine but it will crash the next time I exit. I've done a repair with a fresh downloaded copy of the install package. I also did a maintenance. Any ideas? -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.62.08 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
3.62.09 Error on Exit (was Re:3.62.08 Error on Exiting)
Alexander, Tuesday, November 1, 2005, 12:28:59 PM, you wrote: ASK Hello Michael Rudnick everyone else, ASK on 01-Nov-2005 at 14:32 you (Michael Rudnick) wrote: Since upgrading to 3.62.08 I have been getting an error when exiting. ASK I'm using TB on the same OS + ServicePack as you do, but I do not have that ASK problem. Maybe you can try again with the .09 version that has just been ASK released. Upgraded to .09 and still have the same problem. Should I be concerned about this? -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.62.09 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:3.62.09 Error on Exit (was Re:3.62.08 Error on Exiting)
Alexander, Tuesday, November 1, 2005, 2:55:18 PM, you wrote: ASK Hello Michael Rudnick everyone else, ASK on 01-Nov-2005 at 19:32 you (Michael Rudnick) wrote: Upgraded to .09 and still have the same problem. Should I be concerned about this? ASK Uh. ASK If I were you I'd try to track down the source of the problem - does it ASK happen if you disable all folder compression and whatnot when you exit? Or ASK does the AV maybe also occur if you do a manual folder maintenance? Are you ASK using any plugins that you can temporarily disable/remove? I turned off all the compression. I don't have an AV plug-in. I'm using the Bayes Filter plug-in. Should I remove that? I'm still getting the error. I can do a maintenance without a problem. It just gives an error at exit time. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.62.09 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:3.62.09 Error on Exit (was Re:3.62.08 Error on Exiting)
Michael, Tuesday, November 1, 2005, 6:22:11 PM, you wrote: MR Alexander, MR Tuesday, November 1, 2005, 2:55:18 PM, you wrote: ASK Hello Michael Rudnick everyone else, ASK on 01-Nov-2005 at 19:32 you (Michael Rudnick) wrote: Upgraded to .09 and still have the same problem. Should I be concerned about this? ASK Uh. ASK If I were you I'd try to track down the source of the problem - does it ASK happen if you disable all folder compression and whatnot when you exit? Or ASK does the AV maybe also occur if you do a manual folder maintenance? Are you ASK using any plugins that you can temporarily disable/remove? MR I turned off all the compression. I don't have an AV plug-in. I'm MR using the Bayes Filter plug-in. Should I remove that? MR I'm still getting the error. I can do a maintenance without a problem. MR It just gives an error at exit time. (Replying to my own post) Downgraded to 3.60 and all is fine. The tabs were nice but not worth the error. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.60.07 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:The Bat and GTD
admin, Friday, October 21, 2005, 4:44:54 AM, you wrote: aacu Is anyone out there using TB as a part of GTD* (Getting Things Done)? aacu *GTD is a personal organisation system promoted by David Allen. aacu If you don't know what I mean then you are probably not able to discuss this with me. aacu I am seeking GTDers using TB to exchange ideas as to how to integrate TB with the system aacu rather than use MS Outlook. E-mail can be managed whatever program you use. My use of GTD in TheBat is this: Don't keep anything in my Inbox. Instead, put it in the appropriate folder. Create folders for @Action, AWaiting, @Someday. Add ToDo tasks for e-mails in my ToDo system (I use a Palm for this). I don't use Outlook. On the Desktop side, I use Ecco and Bonsai (for tasks). I must admit that I don't always clean out my Inbox entirely. It's my goal, though. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.60.07 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:questions about latest TB
Tom, Friday, September 9, 2005, 2:47:58 AM, you wrote: TP Michael Rudnick wrote: I've added a custom toolbar that has the different message formats. That way if I want to reply in plain text (as I do most of the time) I can just press a button to change it. If I want to leave it as HTML to preserve the formatting I don't have to do anything. TP Why not just click through the options in the status bar of the TP message composition window? (Second field from the right.) Not sure what you mean by second field from right. The way I have it one click and I can change the message format from html to Plain text or back. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.60.07 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:questions about latest TB
zwjunk, Thursday, September 8, 2005, 6:45:34 PM, you wrote: z Still running 2.12. I'm not upgrading until they fix a few problems (or until z another competitor comes along that has TB features that I need, whichever comes z first): z 1) Per my tbudl message titled Does 3.0 properly render Outlook email? from z Sept 1, 2004. A major problem with 2.x was that it wouldn't render Outlook email z properly. It often concatenates words. Very annoying, especially when one wants z to reply/forward the message. z 2) Many HTML issues per my tbudl message titled composing html mail from July z 9, 2004. Having various problems with html mail. If I compose within TB using z HTML/Plain Text and then switch to HTML only, HTML formatting is lost. I can't z cut/paste from one HTML message into another. If I import text with HTML into z the plain text editor and switch to HTML/Plain Text, almost all tags are lost z (it somehow keeps li tags.) If I change a font or bold a hyperlink, the URL info z is lost and has to be re-entered. If I'm doing a quick HTML message, the z internal editor works ok. But I'm finding it quite burdensome to maintain a more z complex message or - more importantly - to reuse code from previously sent z messages. z 3) Image links. Previously there is no option to view such images within an z email; one has to open the HTML attachment. Very annoying. I would like to z decide to display images or not, just like Gmail or Outlook. z Status on any of these? z Thanks - z jon I've noticed a difference in the way TB works with HTML in the latest version. I've been getting more and more frustrated by the way it handled replies. I would have to reformat the paragraphs of the e-mails from my assistant whenever she sent me bulleted items (in OE). Now when replying it pops me into HTML when the sender uses HTML. The formatting is good (but not perfect). If I switch it to Plain text it's the same old messed up text. I've added a custom toolbar that has the different message formats. That way if I want to reply in plain text (as I do most of the time) I can just press a button to change it. If I want to leave it as HTML to preserve the formatting I don't have to do anything. Interesting that this improvement isn't touted in the upgrade notes. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.60.07 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Keeping TB! Data Files on a Server
Jeff,
Sunday, July 17, 2005, 12:22:47 PM, you wrote:
JG Hello Group
JG I am having a bit of a play/experiment :-)
JG I have just built myself a server out of old bits and have attached to
JG it a Buffalo Terrastation. The plan is to use a Shared Data directory
JG on the server for all my data and then run scheduled backups to the
JG Buffalo. Hopefully this will stop me from updating the wrong files when
JG I switch PC's.
JG Is anybody running TB! with data kept on a server? The laptop I
JG use is wi-fi connected - 801.11g- and maintains a pretty reliable connection
JG to the network.
JG If anybody is doing this I would appreciate comments on usability. I
JG guess it's technically possible but every time the laptop goes into
JG standby it loses its network connection. It re-connects automagically
JG but only after loads of error messages from Explorer ('My Documents'
JG is on the server now) - which could be avoided if it was intelligent
JG enough to wait for the connection before doing anything else.
JG The laptop doesn't travel so I don't need access to the data while
JG away from base.
JG Many thanks.
I *had* been doing this on a wired LAN and had problems closing out
TheBat! It would take 2 minutes to fully close (removed from the Task
Manager). After posting to this forum and not getting any answers that
worked for me, I gave up. Now I use a SyncBack, a scheduled backup
program to back up to the server
(http://www.2brightsparks.com/index.html).
--
Michael Rudnick
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Using The Bat! 3.5 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2
Current version is 3.51 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Mailbase stored on Server: slow shutdown
Martin, Wednesday, May 18, 2005, 3:48:23 AM, you wrote: MS Hello List, MS I've got my Mailbase-folder on a network drive on our server to be MS able to access it from different computers in the network. MS I noticed that when I close TB!, the process stays active for nearly MS 20-30 seconds (100MBit net). As I looked deeper I saw that TB! updates MS the files in the Mailbase bit by bit (saw it from the Modified date MS in explorer) with a tranfer rate of 40-50 kBit... MS Can anybody confirm this? I had a similar problem where I was using a folder on my server and had set it to be 'offline' so it would be available always (on my laptop). It would take over 2 minutes to end in the Task Manager. I wrote about it (Nov 7, 2004). Received some replies but nothing that helped the situation. I gave up and put the files locally. Now I do a nightly backup for security. I'd love to hear it if you find anything out. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.5 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
3.5 Frustration
I want to register my frustration with the 3.5 upgrade. All of the shortcuts were lost. I had to recreate the ones that I had put into the previous version. There was no warning of this. Some keyboard shortcuts are changed. I used to press CtrlEnter to put the message in the Outbox. Now that same command sends the message immediately. Maybe a minor change but an unsettling one. The customization is nice but a bit daunting. I created a toolbar and found myself looking everywhere to see the appropriate icons. It's nice to have choices but it would be nicer to have them arranged in a manner that made sense to the novice. One bug (I think). I can't seem to create a toolbar and use the 'Insert item as a child' command. I get an error and am kicked out of TheBat. Can anyone confirm this or tell me what I'm doing wrong? (I was trying to duplicate the appearance of the first two Standard toolbar buttons.) None of this is critical. What it does illustrate for me is that TheBat is a niche product with a loyal following. I can't see it becoming a mainstream product when things like this occur. Thanks for listening to my Monday morning rant. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Can't Send Message to a Recipent
MAU, Tuesday, March 29, 2005, 5:07:11 AM, you wrote: M Hello Michael, The error message I get is: SEND - Message has not been sent. Server reply - Invalid recipient: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The message never leaves The Bat. It remains in the Outbox. Any ideas on how I can address this problem? M Create a text file called protocol.ini I tried another account and manually typed the address in a text editor as suggested in other replies. No luck. Here's the SMTP Trace file: [07:37:09] C: Connected to smarthost.coxmail.com, port 25 [07:37:09] S: 220 lakecmmtar04.coxmail.com ESMTP server (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) ready Tue, 29 Mar 2005 07:37:32 -0500 [07:37:09] C: EHLO LAPTOP [07:37:09] S: 250-lakecmmtar04.coxmail.com [07:37:09] S: 250-HELP [07:37:09] S: 250-VRFY [07:37:09] S: 250-XREMOTEQUEUE [07:37:09] S: 250-ETRN [07:37:09] S: 250-PIPELINING [07:37:09] S: 250-DSN [07:37:09] S: 250-8BITMIME [07:37:09] S: 250 SIZE 10485760 [07:37:09] C: MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=607 [07:37:09] S: 250 Sender [EMAIL PROTECTED] and extensions (SIZE=607) Ok [07:37:09] C: RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [07:37:09] S: 550 Invalid recipient: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [07:37:09] C: RSET [07:37:09] S: 250 Ok resetting state [07:37:09] C: QUIT [07:37:09] S: 221 lakecmmtar04.coxmail.com ESMTP server closing connection The confusing thing here is that another address within the e-mail domain works fine. Is there any logic to this? Thanks to all for your help. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Can't Send Message to a Recipent
MAU, Tuesday, March 29, 2005, 9:40:04 AM, you wrote: M If as you say [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a valid e-mail address, I M think you should call your Cox mail service support. It is certainly not M a problem with The Bat! at all. To make a long story shorter, I suspect that there is a blacklist going on here. My current ISP (Cox) says that it's being kicked back because the mail server IP address is on an international list of spammers. There does seem to be a listing on some of the spam listers (for the hosting domain, not the actual address I'm trying to send). I ended up switching my SMTP server over to Earthlink since I have an account there. Once I changed it over it worked fine. Now it's someone else's problem. Thanks to all for your help. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Can't Send Message to a Recipent
I'm getting an error whenever I send a message to a specific recipient in The Bat. I know that the address is correct. I can send a message to him using my web-based interface. I can also send a message to another account on the same e-mail domain. The error message I get is: SEND - Message has not been sent. Server reply - Invalid recipient: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The message never leaves The Bat. It remains in the Outbox. Any ideas on how I can address this problem? Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Can't Send Message to a Recipent
Chris, Monday, March 28, 2005, 2:16:14 PM, you wrote: C Michael Rudnick @ 2005-Mar-28 11:40:25 AM C Can't Send Message to a Recipent C mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The error message I get is: SEND - Message has not been sent. Server reply - Invalid recipient: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The message never leaves The Bat. It remains in the Outbox. Any ideas on how I can address this problem? C Try without the angle brackets, if you added them. Nope. I put in the address without anything and it didn't work. Then I tried sending to another address in the e-mail domain ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and it went without a problem. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:%TOFNAME
Stuart, Sunday, February 13, 2005, 11:22:10 AM, you wrote: I like this method, however when I use it my cursor ends up about 7 lines down the page. Am I doing something wrong. My template is as follows. --- %QINCLUDE=Greet_All_Recipients %- %Cursor Hmm, don't know why that happens. It doesn't to me - did you edit the QT at all? SC Ok, I solved this problem. In your template there is a line between SC :~~%_GAR_Default~~ and SC %To=%To=%_GAR_Text%- SC near the bottom of the template. Removing this spare line solves the SC problem. I tried this template as well and noticed the extra lines. It seems to add an extra line for each person. I got rid of the line (as described above) and that reduced the number of added lines but I still get extra lines. Any other suggestions? -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Help: TheBat! Not closing on Exit
Spike, I didn't do any snipping to keep track of the issue. Sorry for anyone who has a slow modem connection. Sunday, November 14, 2004, 10:16:41 AM, you wrote: MR I'm having a nuisance issue with TheBat! I'm using the latest MR version although this problem occurred before in 2.x. MR Some preliminary info: MR - I have my files on my server. The folders 'available offline' so I MR can always access them. MR - I made the tests below with virus scanning turned off to remove that MR as a possible problem. MR - I turned off mail checking during the testing (at startup and after MR x minutes). MR - I removed the spam filter (Bayes Filter) for the tests. MR Now the problem: MR I log off, disconnect from network, S When you log off from the network (and your server) you are S disconnecting TB! from the message bases! MR then log and open TheBat! When I close the program, the process MR (in Task Manager) ends immediately upon exiting. S Normal, as the program has been disconnected from its data. The program is not disconnected from it's data. I am using Windows XP 'Offline files'. With it I always have my TB data available, even when I'm not connected to the network. I certainly don't have any connection to the e-mail server (outside of my office). MR I log off or restart, connect to network, and log on and open MR TheBat! When I close the program, the process (in Task Manager) MR takes over 2 minutes to end. S TB! is probably set to COMPRESS the message bases on exit. Yes, it does compress. After the compress (when a dialog box is plainly showing) the program 'appears' to close. But, upon looking at the Task Manager, there is still a process, 'thebat.exe'. That process remains for about 2 minutes, using CPU cycles. MR Another point: Whenever I open TheBat! (in either situation listed MR above) it takes about a minute for all the folders to display. MR During that time TheBat! process is taking most or all of the CPU MR resources. S You likely have a large amount of messages, which have to be S re-indexed due to the above mentioned disconnection (possibly S corruption) of the indexes. I have done a folder maintenance for all folders. Is there another place I should be reindexing the message base? MR I'm wondering if there is something fundamentally wrong with the MR installation. Should I uninstall and reinstall the program? Is MR there another test I should run to figure out why this is MR occurring? S No, this is probably normal, but your habit of disconnecting from the S message bases will eventually cause message base corruption (or S worse). S Let TB! finish its housekeeping before disconnecting from the server S and hence the message bases. I have seen this before on a client's S machine. I typically don't close out of the network before TB closes. What I have to do now is wait 2 minutes after TB closes so that it's really out of the active processes. This is sometimes a pain. S Anyone else have another explanation?? Yes, anyone else Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Help: TheBat! Not closing on Exit - 2nd Request!
Sorry to be pain but... I posted the request below but didn't receive a reply. Earlier I posted a message relating to this issue and Allie Martin replied (Re: Having Trouble Closing TheBat - 2nd Request). I have tried the ideas in that message but am no farther to solving the problem. == I'm having a nuisance issue with TheBat! I'm using the latest version although this problem occurred before in 2.x. Some preliminary info: - I have my Bat files on my server. The folders 'available offline' so I can always access them. - I made the tests below with virus scanning turned off to remove that as a possible problem. - I turned off mail checking during the testing (at startup and after x minutes). - I removed the spam filter (Bayes Filter) for the tests. Now the problem: I log off, disconnect from network, then log on and open TheBat! When I close the program, the process (in Task Manager) ends immediately upon exiting. I log off or restart, connect to network, and log on and open TheBat! When I close the program, the process (in Task Manager) takes over 2 minutes to end. Another point: Whenever I open TheBat! (in either situation listed above) it takes about a minute for all the folders to display. During that time TheBat! process is taking most or all of the CPU resources. I'm wondering if there is something fundamentally wrong with the installation. Should I uninstall and reinstall the program? Is there another test I should run to figure out why this is occurring? Thanks for your help. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Help: TheBat! Not closing on Exit
I'm having a nuisance issue with TheBat! I'm using the latest version although this problem occurred before in 2.x. Some preliminary info: - I have my files on my server. The folders 'available offline' so I can always access them. - I made the tests below with virus scanning turned off to remove that as a possible problem. - I turned off mail checking during the testing (at startup and after x minutes). - I removed the spam filter (Bayes Filter) for the tests. Now the problem: I log off, disconnect from network, then log and open TheBat! When I close the program, the process (in Task Manager) ends immediately upon exiting. I log off or restart, connect to network, and log on and open TheBat! When I close the program, the process (in Task Manager) takes over 2 minutes to end. Another point: Whenever I open TheBat! (in either situation listed above) it takes about a minute for all the folders to display. During that time TheBat! process is taking most or all of the CPU resources. I'm wondering if there is something fundamentally wrong with the installation. Should I uninstall and reinstall the program? Is there another test I should run to figure out why this is occurring? Thanks for your help. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:PC-cillin and TB!
P.Johnson, Friday, November 5, 2004, 12:14:31 PM, you wrote: PJ Did Trend provide instructions for changing your Account PJ Properties? (They sound similar to the changes I made when using PJ SpamPal.) Otherwise, you don't have a problem with OfficeScan PJ shutting down TB!, like Leo did? PJ Still, since the support at Trend was less than helpful, I may have to PJ give the product a pass (that is, a fail :-)). PJ I appreciate your help! Yes, there were instructions provided. No problems with it shutting down. Of the biggies (Norton, McAffee, Trend) Trend is the only one you can call and get free phone support (888-608-1009). There may be other vendors who also provide support. Good luck. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:PC-cillin and TB!
P.Johnson, Thursday, November 4, 2004, 6:03:59 PM, you wrote: PJ Hello, PJ I'm getting a new computer and want to get the best firewall and virus PJ protection I can, and have been looking at Trend Micro PC-cillin PJ Internet Security. I am wondering if any TB! users have tried this PJ suite; and more generally, if there has to be specific compatibility PJ between email programs and virus software. I use Trend OfficeScan, which has the same or similar engine to PC-Cillin. I had to manually change my Account Properties so that the mail server was 'localhost' and the user was of the format 'xxx%domain.com/pop.domain.com'. It's not as integrated as the programs that work directly with TheBat! but the other features of the product are nice. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TheBat! Visual Interface
When Ritlabs announced v3.0 they said: Amongst all the improvements the most visually outstanding is the new look user interface. The opportunity to replace the default interface glyphs with those of your own preference has been expanded: you can now use transparent images and new formats of graphic files. You will soon be able to download alternative glyph sets from our website Now that I've upgraded, can anyone tell me how to *easily* do this? -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Move From 3.01 Home to 3.01 Pro
Mary, Monday, November 1, 2004, 8:05:22 AM, you wrote: MB Hello Jeff! MB On Monday, November 01, 2004, 6:58 AM, you wrote: MB But I am still puzzled as to how he will put his Pro key in, when MB he receives it--if I had paid $6 or 6 euros or whatever it was, MB extra for the Upgrade, I would want my Help/About at the very MB least to say: Professional Edition. :) JG Perhaps it depends on the key? Mine says Professional Edition. MB How will he get his key in, when he receives it, if he does not do an MB Installation, but just stays with the Home .exe (which is, of course, MB identical to the Pro .exe) ? Well, I copied the (Pro) key that I had received and chose Help, Enter Registration Code. TheBat! took the code and properly added it. I now have 'Professional Edition' listed in my About screen. So the comments about the program being the same and the registration key denoting the version appear to be correct. Thanks to all for your comments. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Move From 3.01 Home to 3.01 Pro
I tried out the 3.01 Home version and decided to spend the extra $6 for the Pro version. (You can tell that I'm a big spender g.) I'm waiting for the registration key and have downloaded the Pro file. Should I just install the Pro over the Home version? Any other potential issues? Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Moving to version 3
Eric, Monday, October 18, 2004, 1:50:48 PM, you wrote: E On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:42:34 -0400 GMT(17/10/2004, 22:42 + GMT), Chris wrote: 6C Check out this script, which will temporarily raise your C account to administrator status. C http://blogs.msdn.com/aaron_margosis/archive/2004/07/24/193721.aspx C After running that, you can open Explorer and run the C installer from there or run msiexec /i TheBat.msi C Hope this helps for next time. E I'm sure it will - if I get it to work: it looks rather E complicated :-) E Many thanks. Another alternative is to use the runas command. Runas allows you to run any program as another user, without the logoff/logon. It's relatively simple: runas /user:mydomain\user notepad.exe or runas /user:user notepad.exe You only need the domain if you are part of a Windows domain. Once entering the command you are asked for the password. After entering it you are running that program as the user. I've used this to install programs, run IE (to install patrches), etc. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Having Trouble Closing TheBat - 2nd Request
I posted the message below a few days ago and didn't receive a reply. I'd appreciate any suggestions. I have been having trouble closing out TheBat. Sometimes when closing it I get a Windows (XP) message that the program closed improperly. Other times when I am shutting down the computer I notice that TheBat is still running, even though I closed the program. I did a little checking and noticed that sometimes after I close the program it still shows up in the Task Manager. If I click on the icon again, the computer chuggs for a bit and then the task ends. If I click on the icon at this point, the program starts up. Any idea as to what is happening here? -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Having Trouble Closing TheBat
I have been having trouble closing out TheBat. Sometimes when closing it I get a Windows (XP) message that the program closed improperly. Other times when I am shutting down the computer I notice that TheBat is still running, even though I closed the program. I did a little checking and noticed that sometimes after I close the program it still shows up in the Task Manager. If I click on the icon again, the computer chuggs for a bit and then the task ends. If I click on the icon at this point, the program starts up. Any idea as to what is happening here? -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Change E-Mail Address for TBUDL
Greg, Sunday, May 30, 2004, 1:41:32 PM, you wrote: MR Do I need to unsubscribe and re-subscribe? GS No see above. Done. Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.10.03 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Change E-Mail Address for TBUDL
How do I change the e-mail address I use to subscribe to TBUDL? Do I need to unsubscribe and re-subscribe? Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connection Centre Lock-ups
I upgraded to 2.10 and have occasionally had TheBat! lock up on me. In the most recent situation (and I suspect all the others) the main window was visible and I could minimize and restore it with no problem while the Connection Centre was blank. In the Task Manager TheBat! and Connection Centre each appeared twice. I ended the Connection Centre. It closed TheBat! and after restarting it, it's fine. This behavior has occurred several times. It's when I start up TheBat!. The second time I run it all is fine. Any suggestions? Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Connection Centre Lock-ups
Marten, Thursday, May 13, 2004, 2:36:27 PM, you wrote: I upgraded to 2.10 and have occasionally had TheBat! lock up on me. MG [snip] This behavior has occurred several times. It's when I start up TheBat!. The second time I run it all is fine. Any suggestions? MG Are you by any chance using the BayesIt Plug-In for spam detection? Yup. Is that the culprit? -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.10.01 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Moving Filters to another account
MAU, Monday, April 26, 2004, 4:37:45 AM, you wrote: M Hello Michael, I have set up several filters in one account. I'd like to move some of those filters into another account. Rather than copying and re-entering them, is there a way to move them? If it's easier, I could copy all of the filters and then delete the ones that I don't need in the new account. M Use The Bat! Filter Commander. You can download it from: M http://tirna.narod.ru/soft/tbfc.htm M The page is in Russian. Scroll to the bottom and download v1.2.0. Once M installed the interface can be either in English or Russian and it is M very intuitive. Thanks. I downloaded and ran it. Now I am moving around my folders and accounts so they make more sense. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.10.01 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Moving Filters to another account
I have set up several filters in one account. I'd like to move some of those filters into another account. Rather than copying and re-entering them, is there a way to move them? If it's easier, I could copy all of the filters and then delete the ones that I don't need in the new account. Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Strange preview pane behavior
Terry, Tuesday, April 20, 2004, 7:17:00 AM, you wrote: T Hi all, T Upgraded to 2.10 the other day and have noticed some different T behaviour while scrolling through long messages in the preview pane. T I can move the mouse over the folders pane, message list pane or T preview pane without the necessity of physically selecting any of the T panes. The focus for scrolling works perfectly. There's no need to T select the window by clicking it, selecting a message or a folder T prior to scrolling. T That's the same as the previous version. Here is where the behaviour T has changed. T In all other versions (at least the ones I've had), I could scroll T through a long message without having it physically selected (i.e. T clicking inside of it first). If I came across a link I wanted to open T or some text I wanted to select, I just pointed and clicked. Worked T great. T That doesn't work anymore. I can still scroll without physically T selecting the message. But if I attempt to click a link or select some T text, the message in that window moves back up to the beginning of the T message and text is selected from the point where I tried to click in T the message back up to the bottom line that's now displayed in the T preview pane. For example, if 10 lines display at a time in the T preview pane and I scroll down a few screens and then try to click on T a link that is on line 40, the message scrolls itself back up so the T first 10 lines are displayed again and the lines from 10 to 40 are T selected. T If I physically select the preview pane by clicking inside of it prior T to scrolling, I can then select text or click a link as normal. T Is anyone else experiencing this? Am I missing some setting somewhere T that changed when I upgraded? Confirmed here as well. The previous behavior was great. Hopefully the developers will fix this so we are all happy again g. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.10.01 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:All Email maked as Junk...
Marek, Sunday, April 18, 2004, 9:15:10 PM, you wrote: MM Hello all, MM Monday, April 19, 2004, Scott Sims wrote: Howdy, I have been having a problem since I installed 2.10. All my email that comes through is now marked as JUNK and moved to the junk folder. To stop this I have tried playing with various options in the anti-spam plugin, but it still doesn't work. I have now disabled the plug-in, but would like it fixed as it was really good in removing spam :)_ MM this is an info from BayesIt developer: MM Remark: parameter regarding threshold is used as multiplier for non-spam base MM of BayesIt. It helps to decrease the number of possibly false positives. MM Usually it is set to 1.5 or 2. If it is set to 0 which may happens during MM installation of The Bat 2.10.00, it means that ALL your incoming mail wil be MM marked as spam! This is serious. The regarding threshold parameter is in the 'advanced.ini' file in the BayesIt folder. I noticed it was 0 and changed it to 2. So far, no changes. Any other suggestions? -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.10.01 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:All Email maked as Junk...
Michael, Monday, April 19, 2004, 9:56:29 AM, you wrote: MR Marek, MR Sunday, April 18, 2004, 9:15:10 PM, you wrote: MM Hello all, MM Monday, April 19, 2004, Scott Sims wrote: Howdy, I have been having a problem since I installed 2.10. All my email that comes through is now marked as JUNK and moved to the junk folder. To stop this I have tried playing with various options in the anti-spam plugin, but it still doesn't work. I have now disabled the plug-in, but would like it fixed as it was really good in removing spam :)_ MM this is an info from BayesIt developer: MM Remark: parameter regarding threshold is used as multiplier for non-spam base MM of BayesIt. It helps to decrease the number of possibly false positives. MM Usually it is set to 1.5 or 2. If it is set to 0 which may happens during MM installation of The Bat 2.10.00, it means that ALL your incoming mail wil be MM marked as spam! This is serious. MR The regarding threshold parameter is in the 'advanced.ini' file in MR the BayesIt folder. I noticed it was 0 and changed it to 2. So far, no MR changes. Any other suggestions? I have now trained the plug-in and it (for now) seems to be cooperating better. Here's what I did: - Went to each folder (Received messages( and marked all the messages as NOT Junk. - Closed out the program - Opened it back up. I don't know if all that is required. Hopefully this will help someone else having this problem. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.10.01 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Spam Filter - Not Spam
I've been using the BayesIT! Spam filter for over a week, long enough to tag quite a few messages as Spam and several as Not Spam. I'm still having a problem with one set of messages. I support several servers. That includes getting messages from the server notifying that a virus was found. I currently have a filter that moves the message to the appropriate folder. The message from one of my clients continues to be marked as Spam. Here's the log message from one of them: 3/9/2004, 08:14:57: FILTER - Message from Administrator to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with subject [MailServer Notification]To Administrator virus found and action taken. scored 91, qualified as JUNK MAIL I keep on marking these messages as NOT Spam (I've been getting quite a few of them lately) but they are still going into the Junk folder. Any suggestions on eliminating this problem? Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
BayesIt Spam Plugin
When I upgraded to the latest version of TheBat! I decided to experiment with the new spam plug in. I don't have a great need for it due to a number of message filters that I have tweaked over time. Before I pull it out in frustration, I thought I would post a question or two. I don't see any way to customize the plugin. I went to the configuration screen and wasn't able to add anything to the whitelist or blacklist. (Choosing 'Add rule' did nothing.) I ran the Training (even though it said obsolete) to see if that would help. I went to the website (http://klirik.narod.ru/usefuls/bayesiteng.htm) but didn't find it helpful for tweaking the plugin. My problem is that some valid messages are going into the Junk folder. For example, I get messages from a client's server about viruses. I have those messages going into a folder that I review on a regular basis. BayseIt insists on putting them into Junk, even though I have marked them as 'Not junk'. I have fiddled with the scoring (moved it from 60 to 40) and that might have helped; I'm still not sure. Is there anything else I can do to customize the plugin for my specific needs? Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.04.7 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:How to Properly Forward an HTML message
Thomas, Sunday, December 28, 2003, 12:05:28 AM, you wrote: TF Can the HTML editor in TB handle bullets? No. It's pretty bad. It doesn't even keep proper paragraph formatting and can't do indentation. I rarely have a need for HTML but when I need it I'd like to have my mail program work properly for me. Thanks for your suggestions. -- TF This should be dash-dash-space-enter. The space is missing. Seems OK here. I manually put a space in again. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Macros: Windows Info
Jernej, Friday, December 26, 2003, 10:46:15 AM, you wrote: JS Looks like you're running The Bat in Windows NT4sp5 compatibility JS mode. Hmmm. I wonder why I turned that on. Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:How to Properly Forward an HTML message
Thomas, Saturday, December 27, 2003, 10:24:44 AM, you wrote: ... one frustration I have is when I need to forward an HTML message. TF Try this: park the message, copy it to the Outbox, and open it. TF Then you edit the From/Reply-To/To fields and put it back in the TF Outbox for sending. No luck. The original message had bullets. As soon as I opened it the bullets went away in the editing mode of the message. After saving it the bullets went away from the message. Any other suggestions? -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Macros: Windows Info
I recently noticed that when I list the Windows information using the macros it doesn't seem to correctly list the information. For instance, When I list I get %WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER 1381 %WINDOWSCSDVERSION Service Pack 5 %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION4 %WINDOWSMINORVERSION0 %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAMEWindows NT I'm writing this on a Windows XP Pro system with SP1 installed. Is there something I'm missing here? -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows 4.0 (1381) Service Pack 5 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How to Properly Forward an HTML message
I like The Bat! but one frustration I have is when I need to forward an HTML message. I'd like to make it look to the reader just like it was when it came to me but I don't seem to know how to do that. If I forward or redirect, the message is sent with an attachment that the reader must open. If I attach the HTML file the same thing happens. What am I doing wrong? Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows 4.0 (1381) Service Pack 5 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Message Flag Icon
I've noticed that the Message Flag icon has a few more designs than before. Besides closed and open, there is a check mark that (I assume) indicates a PGP signed message. I also noticed that some messages have a green strip on the left of the message flag. Anyone know what that's for? Are there any other designs I will be noticing? Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows 4.0 (1381) Service Pack 5 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Message Flag Icon
Jernej, Sunday, October 26, 2003, 2:48:50 PM, you wrote: JS Green strip indicates that the message was replied, purple that it JS was forwarded. Pre-2.0 versions had green and purple arrows JS instead. Right. I remember the arrows. I didn't notice they were gone. The strips confused me at first. My 2 cents: I'd rather have the arrows. They are more intuitive. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows 4.0 (1381) Service Pack 5 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
PGP Tutorial (was Re:PGP - Checking Signature)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marck, Thursday, October 23, 2003, 6:51:31 AM, you wrote: MDP You must set PGP wrapping off and set your TB wrap to around 70. MDP Currently your lines are too long to guarantee message integrity MDP (when passing through old SMTP servers that may wrap long lines MDP themselves). OK. I turned off wrapping in PGP and checked TB, which was at 70. Now, a question, since I'm new to PGP. Other than this forum, I don't run across signed messages. I'd like to know how people are using PGP to help them in their e-mail. Should I sign *all* my messages? Should I urge all my associates to get onto PGP? How do I manage this additional tool when most of my correspondents are using MS mailing programs? Thanks for your comments. - -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows 4.0 (1381) Service Pack 5 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP5fF8hIbxY05w9+FEQJfZACg4NvRBb0lEjYoXLzArGZ1LhT/LZQAnRfM zqVzSwtAVzzlwxwv8OxqLL48 =kSdG -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:PGP Tutorial (was Re:PGP - Checking Signature)
Peter and others, Thursday, October 23, 2003, 12:30:14 PM, you wrote: PM Hi Michael, PM on Thu, 23 Oct 2003 08:14:26 -0400GMT (23.10.03, 14:14 +0200GMT here), PM you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : PM You might want to join the PGP-Basics mailing list: PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is certainly a good forum PM to discuss all the pros and cons of PGP in general and not related PM to a particular mailer. :-) Thanks for the info. I'll check out the Yahoo group when I have the time (about 3 years from now g). -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows 4.0 (1381) Service Pack 5 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Junk Mail Folder in 2.0
Can anyone comment on the new Junk Mail folder in 2.0? I understand that it can be used in conjunction with a spam plug-in. Somehow though, I have a message that went into that folder even though I don't have a plug-in. Also, what plug-ins are available? (Unrelated to the above: Notice the Service Pack below. Here is my template. How come it shows SP5 when I have SP4?) Using The Bat! %THEBATVERSION on Windows %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION (%WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER) %WINDOWSCSDVERSION Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows 4.0 (1381) Service Pack 5 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
PGP - Checking Signature
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Having just registered The Bat! 2.0 I decided to jump in to PGP as well. I downloaded and installed PGP 8.0 and have set up a key. I'd like to see if my key is working correctly. Can someone verify the signature? Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows 4.0 (1381) Service Pack 5 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP5csgBIbxY05w9+FEQKSfgCdG1gkrE8IPnnmfXi1QZ1kETppar0An1+T m3YaXQ5mSyewEmY6O+a4W0wu =aN0n -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:PGP - Checking Signature
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marck, Wednesday, October 22, 2003, 9:30:04 PM, you wrote: MDP Hi Michael, MDP Use the Key Manager (from PGP 8) software's Upload key to key-server option. I have already done 'Server, Send to, ldap://keyserver.pgp.com'. I just did it again. The first time it said that I successfully updated it. When I did it again it said that it was already on the server. Is it possible that the key is not staying on the server or is there something else I'm not doing correctly. Thanks. - -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.01.3 on Windows 4.0 (1381) Service Pack 5 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP5c4mRIbxY05w9+FEQLr9gCgpdcb0w0rOpaOc1xYvZin2IrE4qAAn2vK fppFjjiNzcNsiLndST1CbEb6 =wBIZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Archived Folders
I'd like to do a bit of housecleaning of my folders. What I would like to do is move some e-mails out of The Bat! store so they are not part of my backups. But I may want to be able to search or review the old messages from time to time. I noticed that there is no automatic function to archive some messages or folders. Has anyone done this and/or have any suggestions? Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Changing Font of Viewer
I recently purchased a laptop and have set up The Bat! on it (no problems, by the way). Because the screen resolution is 1400x1050 the size of the text is very small. I found where to change the size in the messages but the size of the account tree and message list are still small. Where can I change the font size in these windows? Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Changing Font of Viewer
Roelof, Wednesday, December 11, 2002, 9:24:57 AM, you wrote: RO Options - Preferences - 'System' tab - Fonts RO and RO Options - Message list Colours and fonts... That did it. I must have missed it. Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Group Templates
Marck, Yes, I know about moving the cursor to the body. Can anyone else confirm that this is a bug. Should I report this? If so, how. Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.61 on Windows 5.0 (2195) Service Pack 2 Thursday, July 18, 2002, 4:16:38 AM, you wrote: MDP -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- MDP Hash: SHA1 MDP Hi Michael, MDP @18 July 2002, 21:36 -0400 (02:36 UK time) Michael Rudnick [MR] in MDP [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: MR ... If I start a new message from the main screen and enter the MR group handle, the standard template stays MR Am I doing something wrong or is this a bug? MDP It sounds like a bug although when selecting addresses templates may MDP not be evoked until you move the cursor from the headers to the body MDP editor. MDP - -- MDP Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator MDP TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 MDP ' MDP -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- MDP Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) MDP iD8DBQE9NnlnOeQkq5KdzaARAkGTAJ9k+Uk+ScJsOe+/fCjquclDiFLOgACfZTUt MDP HScr9lC/zBdGFnB6/C0BqSQ= MDP =85wa MDP -END PGP SIGNATURE- MDP MDP Current Ver: 1.61 MDP FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com MDP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com MDP Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/ Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Group Templates
I have a group with group specific templates for new messages. If I'm in the Address Book and select a new message for the group, the correct template comes up. If I start a new message from the main screen and enter the group handle, the standard template stays. If I start a new message from the main screen and enter a specific name from the group, the correct template is inserted. Am I doing something wrong or is this a bug? -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60q on Windows 5.0 (2195) Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re:Stuck Messages
Jonathan, Thanks for your comments and from others as well. Since this has occurred several times I have some information on the problem. I can't yet see a pattern but here's what I know so far: - The Bat! gets stuck downloading a message. I note the message number. - I open a browser and go into my mailbox via the web. - I find the message and look at it. Usually there is nothing special about it. I can read it fine. On several occasions it has been from this group. - I go into the dispatcher and delete the offending message. I guess I could try to download the message in Outlook Express, which I still have on my system. If it worked though, what would that tell me? I already know that the message is OK. I assume that since others aren't noticing this happening regularly then it's not a major bug. I'm happy to do a little more research on this if someone knows what I should do with the results. Cheers, -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tuesday, July 2, 2002, 12:37:03 AM, you wrote: JA Hi Thomas, JA On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:17:14 +0700, you wrote: JA If it is the same message all the time, did you try downloading said message via JA a different mail client? See if that has the same issue? It could be possible JA it contains a character in the body somewhere that TB! is miss-reading some how, JA and dropping the connection (like the old nuke commands where you could remotely JA send a modem a string, and it'd shut it down). Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re:Stuck Messages
Roelof, Unlikely. It's a DSL line. Additionally, If I try to download again, it gets stuck on the same message each time. Finally, I only started having this problem recently. It might be when I went to 1.60q or 1.60m or maybe 1.60c. I can't remember. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Monday, July 1, 2002, 5:14:16 AM, you wrote: RO Hallo Michael, RO On Sun, 30 Jun 2002 21:33:38 -0400GMT (1-7-02, 3:33 +0200GMT, where I RO live), you wrote: MR I'm having occasional problems with messages not being read by The MR Bat! The log message is: MR 6/30/2002, 21:24:55: FETCH - Connection to host broken (last MR commands sent were: LIST, RETR 1) RO Might be an unstable connection. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Stuck Messages
I'm having occasional problems with messages not being read by The Bat! The log message is: 6/30/2002, 21:24:55: FETCH - Connection to host broken (last commands sent were: LIST, RETR 1) When I go to my mail server (I can access my mail through the web) the message looks fine. The latest message that had a problem was from Marck Pearlstone: How to set up an autocomplete for a mail list? Often the mail goes through just fine. I'm not sure exactly how often the problem occurs, maybe 1-2 times a week. Any suggestions on where the problem may lie or anything I can do about it? Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60q on Windows 5.0 (2195) Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re:Palm Sync Sloooow
Start by reading the info on TB FAQ (http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/howdoi.html. Then go to How to sync The Bat! with your Palm device (by Tim Musson)) I set the Palm mail conduit to Eudora. Note: Some Palms (the less expensive ones) didn't include a mail program. If you don't have Mail on your Palm you'll need a 3rd party program. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53d on Windows 5.0 (2195) Service Pack 2 R Could you please share how you are doing this? Is is possible without R buying 3rd party software? I've been trying forever -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Palm Sync Sloooow
I have been using TB for several months and have been syncing successfully to my Palm. But I've it's very slow when syncing. The slowness is fully dependant on the size of the Inbox, which makes some sense. But the mail sync is an average of 10 seconds per message (or around 1 minute for a mere 6 messages in my Inbox). I never had that problem with Outlook Express (but experienced other problems g). I've gone through the settings and reviewed Tim Musson's entries in the Silverstones FAQ. All seems to be OK. Is anyone else having this problem? Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53d on Windows 5.0 (2195) Service Pack 2 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
