Re: New user, lotsa questions

2000-09-17 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 05:01:18PM +0200, Fred van Veen wrote: > You are very wrong here (and very arrogant too! (why?)) Because I'm right, have been right for nearly a decade and grew weary of explaining to all the newbies to the online world why their brand spanking new "wisdom", hard earne

Re: New user, lotsa questions

2000-09-17 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 10:52:07AM -0500, A . Curtis Martin wrote: > S>> Most likely because you weren't trying to do anything more advanced > S>> set up a lunch date. > FvV> You are very wrong here (and very arrogant too! (why?)) > > I have to agree with you here Fred. One of the list ru

Re: New user, lotsa questions

2000-09-17 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 04:22:29PM +0100, Tony Boom wrote: > SL> Hello, I stick with it and after 18 months I still hate it. > So can we assume you won't be buying the company? You never know. If that is the only way to get that lame-duck feature removed I might just do that. --

Re: New user, lotsa questions

2000-09-17 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 10:25:46AM +0100, Tony Boom wrote: > Stick with it and like Mark, myself and many others, I'm sure you'll > come to love it. Wow, that's what, the 5th one now? Sheesh. Hello, I stick with it and after 18 months I still hate it. Some people just don't like the co

Re: New user, lotsa questions

2000-09-17 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 04:41:42AM +0200, Karin Spaink wrote: > 'Cept that I don;'t always read on the spot, and then new massages get added > to old (unread) messages. That's where new and old start getting diffuse. I > don;t want that. I want my mailer to say that I've recieved do many here and

Re: New user, lotsa questions

2000-09-17 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 04:29:33AM +0200, Karin Spaink wrote: > At 20:15 16-09-2000 -0500, A. Curtis Martin kindly wrote: > > >SL> Exactly, there isn't a standard, at least not for the more advanced > >SL> features of an editor. > > >She hasn't really touched on any advanced features as s

Re: New user, lotsa questions

2000-09-17 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 04:21:01AM +0200, Karin Spaink wrote: > Is it now. Yes, it has been explained to you several times. > I have been on the net for six years and nobody ever told me that they were > aggreviated by the fact that I use a proportional font to compose in and > read my and

Re: New user, lotsa questions

2000-09-17 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 03:15:06AM +0100, Mark R Harding wrote: > True enough but given that TB! runs under Windows exclusively (unless > I really missing something...) then I think it is fair to assume that > the Windows Keystroke standard is an acceptable common standard that > everyone already

Re: New user, lotsa questions

2000-09-17 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 03:58:23AM +0200, Karin Spaink wrote: > Ah, seems I touched a nerve ;-) Nerve, no. Stabbed the spinal cord? Yes. > Currently, for mail, I use the inbuilt Eudora one. But no, I wouldn't mind > using Notepad as an editor, but I sure as hell don't want to need to invok

Re: New user, lotsa questions

2000-09-17 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sat, Sep 16, 2000 at 08:59:50PM -0500, A . Curtis Martin wrote: > The origin of this behaviour that is present in most Windows based > editors that may have reason to use is pretty much besides the point. > The reality is that if you are developing an application for Windows > users then you ar

Re: New user, lotsa questions

2000-09-16 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sat, Sep 16, 2000 at 08:15:58PM -0500, A . Curtis Martin wrote: > This is another thing that I have been indicating to you. In windows, > the basic behaviour of most editors is really standard. This is why > TB!'s editor is a real 'culture shocker' for those who are used to using > different ed

Re: New user, lotsa questions

2000-09-16 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 02:56:33AM +0200, Karin Spaink wrote: > Ah, but I don't like pitcvhed fomts to begin with. And as I told Jurek: it > feels as if somebdy is hammering it in. You _will_ have fixed fomts and even > if you find your way around them. we will still make your message editor act

Re: New user, lotsa questions

2000-09-16 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 02:36:13AM +0200, Karin Spaink wrote: > 1. Why does my reply to Januk gets garbled in the Subject line and suddenly > gets "Re[2]: etc" instead of your standard "Re: etc"? TB! loves to count replies for some reason. You can turn that off in the templates. The exact m

Re: New user, lotsa questions

2000-09-16 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 12:29:40AM +0200, Karin Spaink wrote: > 1. If you move your cursor down in the window in which you are editing your > mail (e.g. move it down to the next empty line), it goes down but stays in > the same column (read: horizontal axis) and doesn't go to the beginning of > th

Re: and a pgp question

2000-09-15 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday, September 15, 2000, 12:24:28 PM, Jason wrote: > I guess it's not a big deal if it escapes a long line of hyphens, but > it destroys the "dash-dash-space" line which does irritate me. Is > there an alternative that PGP wouldn't touch? You

Re: OT: Why not Emacs for mail and news (was Re: OT: Regular Expressions)

2000-09-15 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday, September 15, 2000, 11:30:25 AM, Peter wrote: > and found TB! for mail. I've not bothered again to try newer versions > of gnus, i like the GUI of TB! (or many parts of it, there is always > room for improvements) Agreed. ;) - --

Re: HTML mail

2000-09-15 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday, September 15, 2000, 11:33:27 AM, Peter wrote: SL>> What makes you think I'm not using one of them? > The mail that Tony replied to was written (according to the X-Mailer > header) with "Mutt/1.2.5i" Right. Is it now mandated that on

Re: and a pgp question

2000-09-15 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday, September 15, 2000, 11:24:31 AM, Jason wrote: > Why does signing a message in TB with PGP mess up lines with hyphens? > Just look at what it does to my signature. It's not _supposed_ to look > like that. Is this a PGP thing in general or speci

Re: a regexp question

2000-09-15 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday, September 15, 2000, 11:21:25 AM, Jason wrote: > My question is, can TB do this work for me with a regexp? The number AFAIK, no. Regexp is pattern matching and string replacement but does not have such capabilities. - -- Steve C

Re: OT: Regular Expressions

2000-09-15 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tuesday, September 12, 2000, 1:48:02 PM, Nick wrote: > Do you know any other applications, as an example, that you can use > regular expressions with? I've never fell across them before TB! and > was wondering if it's just a case of tunnel vision on

Re: Replying to your message dated Thursday, September 14, 2000, at 9:54 AM

2000-09-15 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday, September 15, 2000, 7:50:31 AM, Dierk wrote: > I gather that in not too long a time someone wants to have Flash > e-mail. Or whatever multimedia "standard" will come ;-). On the PMMail list we're having almost an identical discussion. I

Re: HTML mail

2000-09-15 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday, September 15, 2000, 4:43:49 AM, Tony wrote: > http://www.incredimail.com/english/index.html Thanks, I'm going to have to go home sick now. - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I

Re: HTML mail

2000-09-15 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday, September 15, 2000, 4:02:36 AM, Tony wrote: SL>> They both have their strengths and weaknesses. > Any reason why your not using either of them? What makes you think I'm not using one of them? - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm y

Re: OT: Regular Expressions

2000-09-15 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, September 13, 2000, 12:35:06 PM, Peter wrote: > one, i'm just used to it). And yes, i'm eagerly awaiting the > possibility to use Emacs as an external editor from within TB! ... Never understood the drive to use Emacs as an external ed

Re: OT: Regular Expressions

2000-09-15 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, September 13, 2000, 2:16:56 AM, Markus wrote: > You may hit me, but in certain way even MS Word knows REs in Search > and Replace. Somehow I doubt that if I told Word to do something like the following in vim it would know what to do o

Re: Regular Expressions

2000-09-15 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tuesday, September 12, 2000, 1:34:40 PM, A wrote: > OTOH, most RE experts claim that you'll find uses for RE's that you > never imagined would be relevant to your situation and work, once you > learn how to use them. While others will point out t

Re: HTML mail

2000-09-14 Thread Steve Lamb
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 06:36:23PM -0500, A . Curtis Martin wrote: > You're asking me to put aside, perhaps, the single most significant > reason why I use TB! over PMMail. I cannot just put it aside like that > and continue the argument. :-) That's the point. You use templates extensively,

Re: HTML mail

2000-09-14 Thread Steve Lamb
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 04:36:12PM -0700, ztrader wrote: > I'd have to agree there, although good help files and examples could > have answered many of the questions I had. Even with help I'm afraid the filtering is just poorly laid out. > SL> limited scripting capabilities in advanced > SL>

Re: HTML mail

2000-09-14 Thread Steve Lamb
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 04:03:20PM -0700, ztrader wrote: > What sorting functions or operations does it do better? The layout and accessability is generally better in PMMail. With TB! the configuration of filters is quite cryptic. With PMMial it is straightforward in basic mode and quite ni

Re: HTML mail

2000-09-14 Thread Steve Lamb
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 05:59:22PM -0500, A . Curtis Martin wrote: > PMMail as a straightforward multi-account e-mail system is > comparable. Once you start moving to advanced features, PMMail in > general becomes a shadow of TB!. I used PMMail for a longer time than > I've been using TB!. :-)

Re: HTML mail

2000-09-14 Thread Steve Lamb
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 03:26:33PM -0700, ztrader wrote: > On Thursday, September 14, 2000, 10:10:51 AM, you wrote: > SL> has better sorting > What is better? That is not enough context to go by. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your IC

Re: Replying to your message dated Thursday, September 14, 2000, at 9:54 AM

2000-09-14 Thread Steve Lamb
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 03:02:57PM -0700, David Tod Sigafoos wrote: > Who says? Who is the leading authority on what email needs or doesn't > need? Indeed. So why are you saying that it needs HTML? > True .. there is no 'definitive' standard. But 99% of HTML (not > dhtml, xhtml etc) is co

Re: Replying to your message dated Thursday, September 14, 2000, at 9:54 AM

2000-09-14 Thread Steve Lamb
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 12:55:09PM -0700, David Tod Sigafoos wrote: > And why shouldnt email be presentable? Email /is/ presentable. It doesn't need HTML for that. > What is it about HTML that scares people so much. The fact there is no standard for displaying it, what standard d

Re: HTML mail

2000-09-14 Thread Steve Lamb
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 01:22:21AM +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: > My main argument is always the waste of bandwidth (and that I find > emails with different fonts and colours offensive or just plain ugly, > but that's certainly a matter of taste). What other reasons are there? There is no s

Re: HTML mail

2000-09-14 Thread Steve Lamb
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 05:54:55PM +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: > attachment. Thus you can attach a prepared HTML file to an email an > and in that way send an "HTML mail". I don't want to get into an > argument about OE and Poco and all of the others that "let you do it > properly

Re: PGP signing

2000-09-07 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday, September 07, 2000, 8:16:18 AM, Marek wrote: > Hello all, > Thursday, September 07, 2000, Cameleon wrote: >> We can setup a macro for "sign when completed". But can we say in >> the template with WHICH key we want sign, assuming t

Re: Sewcurity

2000-08-29 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tuesday, August 29, 2000, 9:18:18 AM, Christian wrote: > Btw, if you like I can send you some of my love letters. If you've seen one > you have seen them all anyway.. ;) Please, darling, next time more duct tape on the hamster and 10W-40 would be

Re: Fwd: Re: TheBat and Spam

2000-08-25 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday, August 24, 2000, 3:49:00 PM, A wrote: > - Filter rules for messages from news and other promo sites to which I > have subscribed. Pst. You misspelled "porno". :) - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrin

Am I missing something?

2000-08-24 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 How does one get TB! to set itself as default mail client without going through the install? - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of s

Re: why do u discriminate me just cuz Im new to this list?

2000-08-22 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Monday, August 14, 2000, 11:08:06 AM, Dierk wrote: > BTW, my browser is Opera and what I don't like about the latest > version is it's integrating of features which are not - repeat *not* - > really integral to a browser, i.e. news and mail facilities

Fwd: Re: TheBat and Spam

2000-08-14 Thread Steve Lamb
.049%, being spam getting through to my inbox. That was over several years of using that system on PMMail on an account that was spammed heavily and on which I got in excess of 500 messages per day. Frankly, this should be a FAQ. ===Original message text=== From: Ste

Re: Moderator's Announcement

2000-08-14 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Saturday, August 12, 2000, 2:21:28 AM, Marck wrote: > Please extend a warm welcome to your new moderator - I know I do :-). 'Grats. I can think of none better. - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your

Re: why do u discriminate me just cuz Im new to this list?

2000-08-12 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Saturday, August 12, 2000, 6:10:14 AM, Dierk wrote: > Who are you? Joe in another guise? Glad I'm not the only one who thought that. - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343

Re: SOT: tbudl's mailserver (was: Re: Why not a Newsgroup or and WWW-forum?)

2000-08-12 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday, August 11, 2000, 5:07:14 PM, Roel wrote: > http://mdaemon.deerfield.com/ MDaemon is actually an attempt at an MTA on Windows that has built in list server functionality. The whole thing seems subpar to me on all levels and certainly not

Re: SOT: tbudl's mailserver (was: Re: Why not a Newsgroup or and WWW-forum?)

2000-08-11 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday, August 11, 2000, 3:28:48 PM, Peter wrote: > Syafrils server and is using MDaemon as the list server software. I > don't know how MDaemon compares to Listar (if there is anybody willing > to point out the differences, move to tbot, I would be i

Re: why do u discriminate me just cuz Im new to this list?

2000-08-11 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday, August 11, 2000, 1:18:30 PM, Marck wrote: > Let's leave this to the moderators. Please do not respond to starc any > further on this topic - anyone. Noted. Normally I don't do small replies, but I am this time just to let you know when I

Re: why do u discriminate me just cuz Im new to this list?

2000-08-11 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, June 28, 2000, 8:28:17 PM, starc wrote: > And I'm telling that to all of you older users that think that they can bash > me just because I'm a newbie. Presumption: That your ideas are being rejected because you're a newbie. False.

Re: Effective Immediately

2000-08-11 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday, August 11, 2000, 7:07:35 AM, Tom wrote: > Steve's posts amuse me these days. He tries so hard to be offensive, > I find it hard not to laugh. Actually, I don't try to be offensive at all. I am what I am and have long since grown tired o

Re: why do u discriminate me just cuz Im new to this list?

2000-08-11 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday, August 11, 2000, 12:35:45 PM, Mark wrote: > TIT(This is true). Perhaps the definitive answer to the original > question would be reached if such a discussion group was created. No. > Then, those that preferred the newsgroup approach coul

Re: why do u discriminate me just cuz Im new to this list?

2000-08-11 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ooook, maybe I wrote the last message wrong. Wednesday, June 28, 2000, 7:56:40 PM, starc wrote: > Hmm...sorry..but u r the one writing BULLPOO. As I already pointed out > in another email, I never thought that my suggestion was better. Reall

Re: why do u discriminate me just cuz Im new to this list?

2000-08-11 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, June 28, 2000, 6:37:07 PM, starc wrote: > And...by the way...new people are sometimes better enabled to see > things that are wrong...cuz the older users are already familiar with > it, they got used to the system and to those things t

Re: Communication between mail clients and external editors

2000-08-11 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday, August 11, 2000, 5:03:19 AM, Soth wrote: > I don't believe that's a justifiable claim. Oh, it is more than justifiable. I downloaded it and boy did the problems come flooding in. First off, default colors were completely unacceptable. W

Re: Why not a Newsgroup or and WWW-forum?

2000-08-11 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, June 28, 2000, 4:50:14 PM, starc wrote: > My question is, why donĀ“t we create a newsgroup Because newsgroups are very open and hard to control. They are also very easy to harvest email addresses from. > forum in a www-page for po

Re: The Bat! - suggestions

2000-08-11 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday, August 11, 2000, 6:31:18 AM, Marc wrote: > ALSO would be nice if FROm and REPLY-TO drop downs listed all from ALL > accounts. Sometimes my business account I would like to change the (as > Eudora does) personality from business to personal etc

Re: Communication between mail clients and external editors

2000-08-11 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday, August 11, 2000, 5:03:19 AM, Soth wrote: > Although superficially valid, after all they are all email clients, the > difference between TB! and, for example, Outlook is significant. As Right, one email client does a decent job at IMAP and

Re: Communication between mail clients and external editors

2000-08-11 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday, August 11, 2000, 3:40:39 AM, Soth wrote: > Then why were you so eager to term it "another notepad wannabe"? Because most, if not all, ASCII editors on Windows aren't much above that level. I've taken a look at UltraEdit and wasn't impres

Re: Communication between mail clients and external editors

2000-08-11 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday, August 10, 2000, 11:43:19 PM, Oleg wrote: > It doesn't remain in memory -- it is dumped to swapfile and next time > I will need it it will be ready a bit faster than if started again. It > will be an economy of my time if I use it frequentl

Re: Communication between mail clients and external editors

2000-08-11 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday, August 10, 2000, 11:43:19 PM, Oleg wrote: > It doesn't remain in memory -- it is dumped to swapfile and next time > I will need it it will be ready a bit faster than if started again. It > will be an economy of my time if I use it frequentl

Re: Two Format Questions

2000-08-11 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday, August 10, 2000, 11:24:23 PM, Graham wrote: > Any idea where I can get vim? I like Editpad for a number of reasons, but I > want an editor I can use with other applications and The Bat! I'd like to > look at vim www.vim.org - --

Re: Effective Immediately

2000-08-10 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday, August 10, 2000, 5:08:04 PM, Joe wrote: > Thanks, everyone out there who gave me a lot of help, and there were > quite a few of you! You're most welcome. - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your

Re: Using The Bat! with GPG

2000-08-10 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday, August 10, 2000, 7:34:24 PM, Cricket wrote: > There is no need to install PGP. Doesnt TB! have a built in PGP > module? ... under Tools->Privacy->PGP_Version First of GPG isn't PGP. Secondly the build in version can only deal with RSA

Re: Effective Immediately

2000-08-10 Thread Steve Lamb
On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 05:49:01PM -0500, Joe Finocchiaro wrote: > Apparently he can't write a message without being sarcastic. Odd, I've written about a dozen today without sarcasm. Maybe you can't read my messages without sarcasm? > to one of my posts (no, I don't need nor want his help),

Re: ">From" in a message

2000-08-10 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday, August 10, 2000, 3:17:47 PM, Joe wrote: > Something/someone put it there, and it wasn't Leif. You have been told what it is. > Then why doesn't my server put the same ">" in front of the word "From" > when I send that same message to m

Re: ">From" in a message

2000-08-10 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday, August 10, 2000, 2:49:48 PM, Kenneth wrote: > Not sure about the latter. How would you tell the difference between a > line that was escaped vs. one that was originally in that form before > sending? The MUA could make an educated guess base

Re: Communication between mail clients and external editors

2000-08-10 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday, August 10, 2000, 2:22:25 PM, Kenneth wrote: > I was thinking that more powerful editors like those you and I use > could implement this as either a core function or in an add-on DLL (.so > for Linux). Stupider editors could rely on a small w

Re: ">From" in a message

2000-08-10 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday, August 10, 2000, 1:58:11 PM, Marck wrote: > No. Only those of us who have a sendmail server between the list > server (which is MDaemon running on a WinNT/2K PC) and the end user > POP server. It isn't sendmail, it is the deliv

Re: Effective Immediately

2000-08-10 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday, August 10, 2000, 12:27:31 PM, Joe wrote: > Does it happen to everyone else? Please check that message you recently > received from Leif and let me know if that ">" appeared in your copy. Well, see, this is where us, nerds, people in th

Re: Two Format Questions

2000-08-10 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday, August 10, 2000, 12:01:08 PM, Nick wrote: > The choice of Editors is all "need" dependant, and EditPad Lite meets my > meager needs perfectly when I want to quickly open or create a small > text file. :o) I fail to see why one needs to

Re: Question regarding case (in)senisitivity in Reg Exp filters

2000-08-10 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday, August 10, 2000, 12:32:00 PM, Peter wrote: > The PCRE part of the help file is IMHO one of most complete help > topics, once you've found it. My tip for locating it: open Help, go to > the find tab and enter "regular". Choose the entry "What

Re: Communication between mail clients and external editors

2000-08-10 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday, August 10, 2000, 12:32:09 PM, Kenneth wrote: > First, does it need to be cross-platform? Would one run an email client > and editor on different machines? TB! will soon be on Linux. The issue isn't what the user will do, but what the p

Re: Two Format Questions

2000-08-10 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday, August 10, 2000, 10:58:03 AM, Nick wrote: > One of the nicest little MDI Editors I use is called EditPad. It's > Freeware, and you can take a look at it here: > http://www.jgsoft.com/editpadlite.html Yikes. How can anyone get any work

Re: Communication between mail clients and external editors

2000-08-10 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday, August 10, 2000, 10:51:18 AM, Kenneth wrote: > Ideally there should be a standard editor "server protocol" that all > editors should support so that editor-using clients (like mail > composition programs) need not include an editor but can t

Re: Communication between mail clients and external editors

2000-08-10 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday, August 10, 2000, 7:20:46 AM, Jamie wrote: > So what exactly is better than UltraEdit? In my opinion and it blows > Word and Emacs out of the water. I've never used it. Why should I when I've had joe and vim? - -- Steve C. Lam

Re: Communication between mail clients and external editors

2000-08-10 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday, August 10, 2000, 2:43:00 AM, Oleg wrote: SL>> use are a little more advaced than the garden variety notepad programmed by a SL>> shareware wannabe visual basic programmer? > Because I don't exit my UltraEdit. I just close project with all fi

Re: Two Format Questions

2000-08-10 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 08:37:54PM -0500, Curtis wrote: > SL> Why would anyone use an MDI editor in the first place? It offers > SL> only limitations over SDI editors. > Not editors that offer both MDI and SDI options. > Anyway, that's a strawman argument there. You're deviating again into an

Re: Communication between mail clients and external editors

2000-08-10 Thread Steve Lamb
On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 02:07:02AM -0500, Curtis wrote: > This is the sort of thing I'm referring to Kenneth. Having to close the > editor every time in PMMail is plain awkward. It may be natural to Steve > but it's bad. I'd only put up with it if I really much preferred the > external editor over

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 11:56:47AM +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: > What is wrong with you today Steve? Marck is referring to the closing > feature that you would like, not about the bug. I'm just wondering why everyone things they are different when they are one and the same. --

Re: TB vs. PMMail

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 4:51:12 PM, Kenneth wrote: > I think a large part of my problem is the sparse and inconsistent help > (admittedly a problem with many programs). Is this another case of an > undocumented feature? Well, given that regex

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 3:59:19 PM, Marck wrote: > No need. You did not originate this thread nor was any of it in > response to your initial attempt to divert it. Please, do I have to send you a screen shot of the threaded view in my

Re: Two Format Questions

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 4:11:30 PM, Curtis wrote: > Even if you're using an MDI editor where you can close a particular > document and save it? Why would anyone use an MDI editor in the first place? It offers only limitations over SDI editor

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 3:45:22 PM, Curtis wrote: > Urhm, yes. What use exactly have I found for this bug? Stop being > dishonest Steve. The bug, Allie, is not closing upon hitting the end of a list. You know that as well as I do. Stop lyin

Re: Too many windows

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 2:49:01 PM, Kenneth wrote: > What are you doing different? I'm reading your message in my > "Software\TheBat" folder, go back to the PMMail main window and select > a message in the "Software\PMMail" folder, and then back o

Re: Selective quoting

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 2:53:08 PM, Kenneth wrote: > Okay, Steve, what was your argument against selective quoting (ie. the > F4 function)? Sent to you before you even asked this question. ;) > argument on this list seems to be over what sh

Re: Two Format Questions

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 2:55:04 PM, Curtis wrote: > I fill in the addressing etc and then hit the use external editor button. Or just hit return in the subject field. > The part I dislike is having to close the editor each time, for each > m

Re: Selective quoting

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 3:04:49 PM, Kenneth wrote: > As I've said elsewhere, this should be a configurable > default to satisfy our different work styles. It is configurable. You know you're going to quote selected, hit F4. Personally my sug

Re: Two Format Questions

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 2:22:00 PM, Joe wrote: > Correction, Kenneth. No one but you, apparently. Others were mentioned. > But is two days really enough time to fairly evaluate a program? Especially a > program as quirky as TB is? Thin

Re: TB vs. PMMail

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 2:38:05 PM, Curtis wrote: KP>> Found this. Why would one select text and *not* want this to happen by KP>> default? Why the special keystroke? > Ask Steve Lamb about this. He was the main voice of rea

Re: Default Column Sorting by Account?

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 2:42:07 PM, Leif wrote: > If you right click a folder, there is a checkbox called "Use Account > Default Column Settings." If you check this box, it becomes a > "defaulted" folder. > Let's say you have ten folders which yo

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 2:07:51 PM, Marck wrote: > So what? I have said *exactly* that already - in context and in the > part of the thread in which it was discussed. You have changed the > subject and quoted me out of context. That i

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 2:06:10 PM, Curtis wrote: > Exploit a bug???!!! I've never done that. Bugs aren't exploitable. > Perhaps your bugs are but what I consider bugs are never exploitable. > I'm yet to hear or read a person say or write that a b

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 1:58:45 PM, Curtis wrote: > On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 13:27:36 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: >>> the weasel with me. Why deviate the discussion and bring the above >>> bug into the picture. Of course that'

Re: TB vs. PMMail

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 1:36:31 PM, Kenneth wrote: >>a) Hit >b) Hold down the key while hitting the reply toolbar button. >>c) Go to the Message -> Specials -> Reply quoting selected text > Found this. Why would one select text and *not* want th

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 1:23:03 PM, Marck wrote: > That is only because you happen to have the main Window open. Curtis > and I (and others who haven't yet mentioned that they work this way) > don't. TB stays in the tool tray most of the time.

Re: Too many windows

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 12:22:36 PM, Kenneth wrote: > One deficiency in PMMail is that if I select another folder from the > main window and then select next message from the reading window, the > reading window closes, instead of reading the next

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 12:23:21 PM, Curtis wrote: > the weasel with me. Why deviate the discussion and bring the above > bug into the picture. Of course that's a bug! I agree entirely and I > have indicated this both on list a lng time ago a

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 12:03:43 PM, Marck wrote: > Definition time: a bug is a _fault_ in the implementation of a piece > of software (the coding) which renders it inoperable or breaks design > constraints within which the software should

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 11:32:11 AM, Curtis wrote: > If the software doesn't do things the way you prefer it to, it's buggy > on that account? Isn't that stretching what the term 'bug' means? :-) > Do you consider suboptimal implementation of a f

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 11:08:48 AM, Curtis wrote: > another for all other folders. The only reason I'd check the main window > at times for would be to see the amount of unread messages left in the > folder I was browsing. Ungh. If I wanted

Re: Next/Prev action at end of list

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 11:01:28 AM, Curtis wrote: > Being able to change to a different folder using is a > kludgy function? I say no to that. TB! is just different in approach. And a wrong one. As I said months ago, it does something unex

Re: Quotes macro (Was: Re: thebat! 1.46 beta)

2000-08-09 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 10:27:29 AM, Curtis wrote: > but still have enough retained to do basic stuff. That's the plan. > What do you think? Good plan overall. I don't use much of the power of regex but what I do use is quite handy.

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