Re[2]: Is there a way to set up a Reply to automatically use a specific Account based on the Subject?

2006-07-20 Thread z5worg

Wednesday, July 19, 2006, Chris W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 2006-7-19 6:47:27 PM
 Is there a way to set up a Reply to automatically use a specific
 Account based on the Subject? mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 %If:%subject=[FCNYC]:%-
 %account='Account3':%-
 %account='Zworg'

 The Subject heading would be something like [FCNYC] AA
 OR Re: [FCNYC] AA

 When I Reply to either of the above message, I want it to use Account
 Account3; but it is using Zworg.

 Am I putting the macro in the wrong place?  Or something else?

 You are performing a literal match. I.e., the subject must match
 [FCNYC] EXACTLY (no more, no less). What you want to do it perform a
 substring match (i.e., if [FCNYC] exists in the subject, then do
 something). For this, take a look at regular expressions.

I looked at Regular Expressions in online help; and it is all greek to
me.

Would appreciate if someone would provide me with the exact syntax.

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Re[2]: Is there a way to set up a Reply to automatically use a specific Account based on the Subject?

2006-07-20 Thread z5worg

Thursday, July 20, 2006, Chris W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 2006-7-20 1:59:06 AM
 Is there a way to set up a Reply to automatically use a specific
 Account based on the Subject?
 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 For this, take a look at regular expressions.

 I looked at Regular Expressions in online help; and it is all greek
 to me. Would appreciate if someone would provide me with the exact
 syntax.

 I'm only a regular expression novice, so this (UNTESTED) solution
 probably could be improved:

 %SETPATTREGEXP='.*(\[FCNYC\]).*'%-
 %IF:'%REGEXPMATCH=%OSUBJECT''':'%ACCOUNT=Account3':'%ACCOUNT=Zworg'%-

 The %SETPATTREGEXP line tells The Bat! to look for [FCNYC] anywhere
 in a string and capture it. Then, %REGEXPMATCH is called with the old
 subject. If [FCNYC] is in the old subject, the result of
 %REGEXPMATCH is [FCNYC], otherwise the result is the empty string,
 . Therefore, the %IF tests to make sure that %REGEXPMATCH did not
 result in the empty string. If the result was non-empty, Account3 is
 used, otherwise Zworg is used.

Thanks, Chris, it works.


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Re[3]: Is there a way to set up a Reply to automatically use a specific Account based on the Subject?

2006-07-19 Thread z5worg

Tuesday, July 18, 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tuesday, July 18, 2006, Robin Anson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 at 00:50:18 -0400, Z5worg wrote:

 Can one write a conditional filter for the Outgoing message to use
 Account XYZ if the Subject is ABC?  If yes, please specify the exact
 macro(?).

 Sure. Put the following in an appropriate message template or quick
 template:

 %If:%subject=ABC:%-
 %account='XYZ':%-
 %account='LMN'


 Thanks.  Works like a charm.

Sorry, I spoke too soon.  It was a fluke; and it doesn't work.

Here is what I did:

I have two lists -- FCNYC and FCNYC_Cafe -- filtered into a folder named
FreeCycle, in Account Zworg.  And I put the following macro in folder
FreeCycle's Reply template -- including all the single/double quotes:

%If:%subject=[FCNYC]:%-
%account='Account3':%-
%account='Zworg'

The Subject heading would be something like [FCNYC] AA
OR Re: [FCNYC] AA

When I Reply to either of the above message, I want it to use Account
Account3; but it is using Zworg.

Am I putting the macro in the wrong place?  Or something else?

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Re[2]: Is there a way to set up a Reply to automatically use a specific Account based on the Subject?

2006-07-18 Thread z5worg

Tuesday, July 18, 2006, Robin Anson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 at 00:50:18 -0400, Z5worg wrote:

 Can one write a conditional filter for the Outgoing message to use
 Account XYZ if the Subject is ABC?  If yes, please specify the exact
 macro(?).

 Sure. Put the following in an appropriate message template or quick
 template:

 %If:%subject=ABC:%-
 %account='XYZ':%-
 %account='LMN'


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Re[2]: Is there a way to set up a Reply to automatically use a specific Account based on the Subject?

2006-07-17 Thread z5worg

Monday, July 17, 2006, Alexander S. Kunz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED]  everyone else,

 on 17-Jul-2006 at 05:30 you ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 I subscribe to a mailing list which is set up so that a Reply would
 automatically go the email address of the message's author (instead of
 to the list's address). But the List is identified in the Subject.

 We are discussing this very topic since yesterday, in the messages
 starting with msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] which you
 might want to read first to avoid the redundancy.

How do I get to that topic?

I tried the archive at
http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/ and there are no
message ids attached to the messages.

If you are referring to the topic Lists that don't overwrite the
Reply-To header, my question is different.

I filter two similar announcement Lists to the same folder; and each
List is identified with the List name in the Subject. When I reply to
the author of the message, I would like to to send the reply from
different Accounts -- depending on which List.

Can one write a conditional filter for the Outgoing message to use
Account XYZ if the Subject is ABC?  If yes, please specify the exact
macro(?).

If no, any other way to accomplish that?

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Is there a way to set up a Reply to automatically use a specific Account based on the Subject?

2006-07-16 Thread z5worg

I subscribe to a mailing list which is set up so that a Reply would
automatically go the email address of the message's author (instead of
to the list's address).  But the List is identified in the Subject.

So is there a way to set up a Reply to automatically use a specific
email Account based on the Subject ??

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Re: Tiny blank spam messages...

2006-06-19 Thread z5worg

Sunday, June 18, 2006, Philip Storry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Over the last week, I've been getting LOTS of messages that are, for
   want of a better word, empty.
   .

I get them too. Would someone tell me what is the purpose of these
emails?

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Need Help on SMTP Server settings for Earthlink.net

2006-06-11 Thread z5worg

I hope some one on this list is on earthlink.net.  They are changing
their SMTP server to smtpauth.earthlink.net.  I can't get it to work;
and earthlink does not support The Bat!.  I can't get it to work in
Moilla eihter.

Can someone help?

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Re[2]: Need Help on SMTP Server settings for Earthlink.net

2006-06-11 Thread z5worg

Sunday, June 11, 2006, Alexander S. Kunz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED]  everyone else,

 on 11-Jun-2006 at 09:49 you ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 I hope some one on this list is on earthlink.net.  They are changing
 their SMTP server to smtpauth.earthlink.net.  I can't get it to work;
 and earthlink does not support The Bat!.  I can't get it to work in
 Moilla eihter.

 I'm not using earthlink :) but smtpauth.something sure sounds like they
 require authentication before you can use their SMTP server to relay
 messages.

 Check Account / Properties / Transport.

 There's a button Authentication.

 Check the tickbox use SMTP authentication

 Enter the username and password for your earthlink account below (or
 simply use same user/password as for Mail Retrieval if its the same)

 That should do it.

I did that; but it doesn't work.  As I was writing this, I thought I
would give it another try -- with one change.  Instead of using same
user/password, I checked use specific settings.  That change made
it work -- even though the specific settings is the same as same
user.  Weird.



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Inbox-Known

2006-06-11 Thread z5worg
Two questions on Inbox-Known:

1. When my cursor in on Inbox-Known and I on New Message, the account
that is being used is Account1234, by default. I don't recall setting
the account to be used for Inbox-known.  Is there a way to set the
default account to another account?  [I don't know whether this is a
coincidence but Inbox-Known is just below Account1234 -- in the Accounts
pane.]

2. In a regular account, I can instruct it to ignore the Reading
Confirmation. However, some of my mail is filtered to Inbox-Known
immediately upon retrieval. When those email are read in Inbox-Known, it
generates a Reading Confirmation Receipt (for each email that requested a
Reading confirmation); and put it in the Outbox of Account1234. How can I
get the Inbox-Known to ignor the Reading Confirmation Request?

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Re[2]: Inbox-Known

2006-06-11 Thread z5worg

Sunday, June 11, 2006, Robert D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Generally, [EMAIL PROTECTED] foretold :

z How can I get the Inbox-Known to ignor the Reading Confirmation
z Request?

 I believe you can set it in Properties of Inbox-Known :

 Templates | Over-ride | Ignore

I don't have over-ride under Templates.

When I put my cursor on Inbox-Known, and go to Account Properties, the
Common Folder Properties comes up. In that Properties box, all I get
are Options, Templates, Memo and Chat. Under Templates, I only have Save
Messages and Cookies.

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Re[4]: GMail certificate not being 'sent' or something

2005-09-13 Thread z5worg

Monday, September 12, 2005, Michael Acklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 .

 Make sure you have the following set up:

 Send Mail:

  Server: smtp.gmail.com
  Authentication: SMTP Authentication Checked
  Specific Settings: User Name and Password
  Connection: Secure to Regular Port (STARTTLS)*
  Port: 587

Does Secure connection for email requires that it be offered by the ISP?
Or one can simply configure and use the secure connection -- independent
of the ISP?


 Receive Mail:

  Server: pop.gmail.com
  Authentication: Regular
  User:
  Password:
  Connection: Secure to Dedicated Port {TLS)*
  Port: 995

Same question for POP3.

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Re[2]: The best mail services provider for using with TB and online by webmail ?

2005-09-10 Thread z5worg

Friday, September 09, 2005, Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello WilWilWil,

 On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 00:46:17 +0200 GMT (10/09/2005, 05:46 +0700 GMT),
 WilWilWil wrote:

W I'm searching about a good provide for mail services.

W Here are my needs :

W -Free
W -No pub, no adds at footer of mail, even on webmail

 How do you expect them to finance their hardware and service?

 Anyway, I recommend www.gmx.net
 1GB of space and has all the features you want in the free version.

I am interested in a free email a/c with pop3 and smtp. However, I don't
understand the foreign language. Does www.gmx.net has a English page on
its web site?

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Re[2]: Filtering questions.

2005-09-09 Thread z5worg

Friday, September 09, 2005, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ..

JP What is the purpose of Common Filters?

 To use the same filter for multiple accounts.
 When you're using common filters, those will be checked first and then
 the account filters will be checked.

Are common filters available in v2?  If yes, how do I get to it?

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IMAP

2005-09-08 Thread z5worg

I have one Account that only works in IMAP for retrieving mail.  When I
press F2 to retrieve mail, I think it downloaded the mail.  The Account
List pane shows 2 unread (bold) for the Inbox.  But when I put my cursor
on the Inbox, the messages do not get listed in the Message List pane;
and of course the message body is not displayed either.

Under Manage IMAP Folders, the Inbox is checked for Subscribed and
Sychronize All Messages.

How do I need to do to get the messages in the Inbox to display?

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Re[2]: Templates

2005-09-07 Thread z5worg

Tuesday, September 06, 2005, Alexander S. Kunz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello Marten Gallagher  everyone else,

 on 06-Sep-2005 at 10:21 you (Marten Gallagher) wrote:

 Is there a way to set up default templates for all Accounts -- instead
 of setting up the same templates one account at a time?

 When you're creating the template, the Edit Template window has an
 Options tab.

 I don't think z5worg meant the Quick templates, but the account templates.

Yes, I meant Account templates. Is there any way to set up default
demplates that will apply to all Accounts?  Since one cannot have more
than one Account Properties open at the same time, I have to keep
opening and closing two Account Properties in order to copy and paste.
Is there a more efficient way?

TIA


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Filtering questions

2005-09-07 Thread z5worg

1.  What is the difference between Outgoing message and Replied message
filters?  e.g. If I want to sort all messages to TBUDL into a separate
folder, some messages (like this one) would be a new message while
others would be replies.  Do I need 2 filters -- one for Outgoing and
one for Replies?  If not, what are the circumstances that one would put
a filter into Replied Messages?

2. I have a filter for Outgoing message; and I want that message marked
as UNread. Looking under the Action tab, the only option is to marked it
Read. But all outgoing messages are automatically treated as Read
(Marked the message as read is unchecked).  So that checkbox doesn't
seem to make sense.  Anyway, is there a way to get TB to mark a filtered
Outgoing message as UNread?

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Re[2]: Templates

2005-09-07 Thread z5worg

Wednesday, September 07, 2005, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 18:47:00 -0400GMT (8-9-2005, 0:47 +0200, where I
 live), you wrote:

 

Z Since one cannot have more than one Account Properties open at the
Z same time, I have to keep opening and closing two Account
Z Properties in order to copy and paste. Is there a more efficient
Z way?

 Two ways to do this easier:
 1)
 
 2)
 Copy your new message template to a QT (quick template) and all it 'New'
 Share that QT with all accounts (options tab)
 Change the new message template for all accounts into this:
 %QInclude('New')%-
 Do likewise with the other accounts.
 

This sounds promising.

Now does that mean that even if the QT is checked to share with all
accounts, it doesn't really share unless the macro %QInclude('New')%- is
typed into the other Account's Properties?

And if I modify the QT at a later date, the change will apply to all
accounts that has the %QInclude('New')%- in it?

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Re[2]: Filtering questions

2005-09-07 Thread z5worg

Wednesday, September 07, 2005, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 19:22:44 -0400GMT (8-9-2005, 1:22 +0200, where I
 live), you wrote:

 .

Z 2. I have a filter for Outgoing message; and I want that message marked
Z as UNread. Looking under the Action tab, the only option is to marked it
Z Read.

 That must be a difference between v2 and v3, as I have a 'Mark message
 as unread' action immediately below 'Mark as read'

In v2, Flagging the message is the 2nd option.

Z Anyway, is there a way to get TB to mark a filtered Outgoing
Z message as UNread?

 Upgrade to v3?
 You could try to 'mark as read', maybe it's just toggling the read
 status, but I don't know, it's been awhile since I used v2.

Checking mark as read doesn't work.

Thanks for the explanation of the differences in the various types of
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Filtering with an exception

2005-09-07 Thread z5worg

I want to set up a filter for outgoing messages for Known -- @ in
Recipient -- to a particular folder, EXCEPT for one recipient (messages
to that recipient will stay in Sent folder).

Is that doable? If yes, how?

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Importing messages

2005-09-06 Thread z5worg

After I click on Tools | Import Message | From .msg/.eml Files, it takes
about 12-15 seconds before Choose Export Directory pops up.  That
seems to be awfully long wait for a 800MHz PC.  Am I wrong?

If no, any suggestion to speed up that process?

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Re[2]: Folder Maintenance - Check Integrity/Repair

2005-09-06 Thread z5worg

Monday, September 05, 2005, Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ...

 I am not sure whether you did the following after creating the temp
 folder from within TB:

 Close TB
 Delete messages.tbb and messages.tbi
 Rename part0001.bin to messages.tbb and put it into that directory
 Open TB

Yes, this is what I did.


 If this is what you did and you still get the error, the message file
 is really damaged. Somebody with a hex editor might be able to take a
 look.

zzc Does this mean that the old part001.bin is useless, and messages
zzc can not be recovered?

 Not yet. Let's open that file with a screwdriver first and have a look
 inside.

It is mostly text.  So I copy and paste it into a new file.  There are 2
message.  So I manually clean it up and save the as 2 *.msg files.


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Templates

2005-09-06 Thread z5worg

Is there a way to set up default templates for all Accounts -- instead
of setting up the same templates one account at a time?

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Re[2]: Importing messages

2005-09-06 Thread z5worg

Tuesday, September 06, 2005, Marten Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 After I click on Tools | Import Message | From .msg/.eml Files, it takes
 about 12-15 seconds before Choose Export Directory pops up.  That
 seems to be awfully long wait for a 800MHz PC.  Am I wrong?

 If no, any suggestion to speed up that process?

 Interesting - I get a long dealy sometimes when a similar browse box
 is called when 'saving attachments' out to an external directory.

 I wonder if there isn't some buggy thing going on here.

 Is your system on a network?

Yes, in the sense that it is connected to a router. But this is the only
PC that is powered on; and the Export Directory is a local HD.

When I am on a 2.0 GHz desktop running WinXP-Home, it is almost
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Re[2]: How to delete a Common/Virtual Folder

2005-09-05 Thread z5worg

Monday, September 05, 2005, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hallo z5worg,

 On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 21:18:19 -0400GMT (5-9-2005, 3:18 +0200, where I
 live), you wrote:

 
 But next time you remove TB, do so via the software panel of the
 configuration screen.

You mean Add/Remove Program in Windows?


Z After setting up all the Accounts, somehow I ended up with an extra
Z yellow folder (I'll call it Folder 1A) at the end (of my Account
Z list) that is a duplicate of one of my accounts (Folder 1). I don't know
Z how it got there.  Both Folder 1 and 1A has the same name.

 Is it listed outside your regular accounts?
 In that case exit TB, browse to your mail directory and check for any
 account.flx and account.flb files and move them to another location.
 .

 Just report back after you've done this, please.

It cured the problem.  Thanks.

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Re[2]: Folder Maintenance - Check Integrity/Repair

2005-09-05 Thread z5worg

Monday, September 05, 2005, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 01:35:55 -0400GMT (5-9-2005, 7:35 +0200, where I
 live), you wrote:

Z I  do not find a part0001.bin on my HD's subfolder1.  There is a
Z part0001.bin in another subfolder from an earlier run of Folder
Z Maintenance.  What do I do with that file?  Does it contain the damaged
Z messages?  How do I recover them?

 Create a new folder with TB
 Exit TB
 Copy the *.bin file to your new folder and rename it to messages.tbb
 (this means you'll have to delete the original messages.tbb and .tbi
 files and that's why you created a new=empty folder)

I created a Temp folder; and follow the instructions above.  When I
re-open TB, the Temp folder shows 0 messages.  Then I check the
integrity of the Temp folder.  The result is Messages Recovered:0,
Damaged Parts (part0001.bin), Saved:1.

However, the Temp folder still shows 0 messages.  When I look in my hard
drive, the new part001.bin is smaller than the previous part001.bin; and
the messages.tbb and *.tbi in Temp folder indicate an empty folder.

Does this mean that the old part001.bin is useless, and messages can not
be recovered?


Z Also, the messages listed against Subfolder1 is 4,920. Where are the
Z other 6 messages? There are similar differences in # of messages for the
Z other 3 damaged folders.

 I don't know why these differences exist, but you can try two things:
 exit TB
 delete the messages.tbi files for the problem folders
 

This doesn't work.

 If it isn't right now.
 Create a new folder.
 Move all messages from one of your problem folders to your new folder
 Compress the problem folder and see if there are any messages left
 . and move the messages back from the new folder to their
 original folder (to keep your filters from messing up)
 Compress the new folder.
 Now proceed with your next problem folder.

This works in that the Integrity check shows the smaller message
numbers.

Separately, after I ran the Integrity check today, some row labels are
missing on the Results section on the bottom.

On the bottom Left   On the bottom Right
   Duplicate found: 0 172
   Messages purged: 0   3
   Disk space saved  8447

When I ran the Integrity check the day before, I remembered that there
were row labels for the numbers on the bottom Right. Why am I missing
those row labels? And how can I get them back on the Results page again?

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Re[3]: How to delete a Common/Virtual Folder

2005-09-05 Thread z5worg

Monday, September 05, 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Monday, September 05, 2005, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 

Z After setting up all the Accounts, somehow I ended up with an extra
Z yellow folder (I'll call it Folder 1A) at the end (of my Account
Z list) that is a duplicate of one of my accounts (Folder 1). I don't know
Z how it got there.  Both Folder 1 and 1A has the same name.

 Is it listed outside your regular accounts?
 In that case exit TB, browse to your mail directory and check for any
 account.flx and account.flb files and move them to another location.
 .

 Just report back after you've done this, please.

 It cured the problem.  Thanks.

I just noticed that all my other Common folders are deleted from the
Account List. Luckily, there are only two Common folders -- $Known$
(Inbox-Known) and Trash. So I added those two. However, TB puts all new
folders at the bottom of the list. And I can't move $Known$ up to the
3rd position. So, I edited the AccOrder.cfg; and that seems to work.

But why the normal Ctrl+Shift+UpArrow does not work in this case???  [It
works for the common folder Trash.]

My last problem is creating the sub-folders under $known$.  Usually, the
Ctrl+Shift+Alt+L would recover lost sub-folders.  But when I put my
cursor on the $Known$, and try to recover lost sub-folders, TB
recovers ALL Accounts and their sub-folders -- i.e. I get a duplicate
of everything.

Is there a way to recover the sub-folders of $Known$ ONLY?  If yes,
how?

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Re[3]: Folder Maintenance - Check Integrity/Repair

2005-09-05 Thread z5worg

Monday, September 05, 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Monday, September 05, 2005, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 01:35:55 -0400GMT (5-9-2005, 7:35 +0200, where I
 live), you wrote:

 

 If it isn't right now.
 Create a new folder.
 Move all messages from one of your problem folders to your new folder
 Compress the problem folder and see if there are any messages left
 . and move the messages back from the new folder to their
 original folder (to keep your filters from messing up)
 Compress the new folder.
 Now proceed with your next problem folder.

 This works in that the Integrity check shows the smaller message
 numbers.

I forgot to mention that when I move messages from the problem folder to
the new folder, TB asks me whether I want to move the parked messages;
and I click on Yes.  However, when I move the messages from the new
folder back to the old folder, it didn't ask me that question about
parked messages.  And I found the Park markings are all gone in that
folder.  Is that normal?  Or does it indicate some other problem(s)?

[The integrity check shows no problem.]

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How to delete a Common/Virtual Folder

2005-09-04 Thread z5worg

I installed v.2 on my laptop (Win98SE) a few days ago.  I had a 1.6x
before; but I didn't find an uninstall, so I simply deleted 1.6x; and
installed v.2

After setting up all the Accounts, somehow I ended up with an extra
yellow folder (I'll call it Folder 1A) at the end (of my Account
list) that is a duplicate of one of my accounts (Folder 1). I don't know
how it got there.  Both Folder 1 and 1A has the same name.

I tried to delete that Folder 1A; but it says that there are parked
messages, and I have to unparked them first.  And I found that as I
unparked the messages in Folder 1A, the same thing happened in Folder 1.

Is Folder 1A a Common folder or a Virtual folder?  And how do I delete
it without affecting Folder 1?

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Re[2]: How to delete a Common/Virtual Folder

2005-09-04 Thread z5worg

Sunday, September 04, 2005, Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 21:18:19 -0400 GMT (05/09/2005, 08:18 +0700 GMT),
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

zzc Is Folder 1A a Common folder or a Virtual folder?  And how do I delete
zzc it without affecting Folder 1?

 It's neither a common nor a virutal folder, it's a duplicate. It was
 likely caused by deleting rather than uninstalling the previsou TB
 version (by the way, you could have just installed the new version
 over it, no need to uninstall).

For my future information, how would I uninstall The Bat!?

 So, in order to fix your problem, we would need to look into your
 registry key and into the folder structure on your harddisk.

What exactly am I looking for?

I search in the Registry for the Account name (that has the duplicate);
and it was only listed ONCE in [HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Software\RIT\The
Bat!\Users Depot].

Before I install v.2, I deleted the entire [HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Software\RIT]

Would it help to uninstall and reinstall at this point?  If yes, what
is the procedure that would involve the least amount of work?

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Folder Maintenance - Check Integrity/Repair

2005-09-04 Thread z5worg

When I run that for all the Accounts/subfolders, there were 3 damaged
folders.

e.g. Subfolder1

 Messages recovered: 4,926, damaged parts (part.bin), Saved:0

I  do not find a part0001.bin on my HD's subfolder1.  There is a
part0001.bin in another subfolder from an earlier run of Folder
Maintenance.  What do I do with that file?  Does it contain the damaged
messages?  How do I recover them?

Also, the messages listed against Subfolder1 is 4,920. Where are the
other 6 messages? There are similar differences in # of messages for the
other 3 damaged folders.

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Connection Center

2005-04-15 Thread z5worg

It used to be that the Connection Center would go away when it finished
downloading all messages.  I don't know what I did, but it now stays
there after finish downloading.

How do I get it back to the way it was before?

Thanks in advance

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Re: Connection Center

2005-04-15 Thread z5worg

Friday, April 15, 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It used to be that the Connection Center would go away when it
 finished downloading all messages. I don't know what I did, but it now
 stays there after finish downloading.

I try to Exit The Bat!; and I get this message:

  Some tasks are now active.  Do you want to exit when finished?

And there are 3 choices: Yes, No and Abort. I tried both No and Abort;
and get the same result -- nothing. How do I find out what tasks are
active? And does any of those 3 choices let me terminate whatever tasks
are active and Exit The Bat!?

[I ended up terminating The Bat via a Ctrl+Alt+Del.]

 How do I get it back to the way it was before?

 Thanks in advance


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Re[2]: Connection Center

2005-04-15 Thread z5worg

Friday, April 15, 2005, Peter Fjelsten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 z5worg,

 On 15-04-2005 09:48, you [zzc] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

zzc How do I get it back to the way it was before?

PreferencesGeneralDisplay Connection Centre = Automatically.

That is the setting I have.  It may have something to do that it
believes that the download is not finished -- although I don't see any
connection open -- resulting in my not able to exit The Bat!


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Links in email

2005-04-15 Thread z5worg

The default browser was Netscape. Now my default browser is Mozilla.
When I click on a link in the email, it still goes to Netscape.

Is there a place where I specify which browser The Bat! should use?

Thanks in advance

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Backup problems [2]

2005-04-15 Thread z5worg
I didn't see any response to my previous post. So I am trying again. I
did a backup today; and get the same 2 messages. Hope some one has the
answer.

= Forwarded Message =
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TBUDL@thebat.dutaint.com
Date: Thursday, April 14, 2005, 8:09:36 PM
Subject: Backup problems {Fwd)


I did a backup; and I got 2 messages:

1. TheBat.exe - No disk -- There is no disk in the drive. Please insert
a disk into drive A: [This message seems to happen at Account .]

2.  An error occured while storing data of the folder X.  It is
possible that the message index is damaged - try to delete the index
file and re-read the folder, then try to backup again.

Re: message #1.  in the first backup, I click Cancel and it continues.
I did a backup again.  This time, I put in a diskette and click Try
again; and it continued.  But when I look at that diskette after the
backup, it has no contents.  What is that message?

Re:  message #2.  After the first backup, I deleted the tbi file for
that folder.  Re-click on that folder and it rebuilds the tbi.  Then I
ran the backup again.  The same message pops up again.  There is no
apparent problem with that folder.  What could be causing this error
message?

Thanks in advance

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Re[2]: Can the messages in different message base be merged?

2005-04-14 Thread z5worg

Friday, April 08, 2005, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

C [EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 2005-Apr-8 10:21:24 PM
C Can the messages in different message base be merged? mid:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]

 The Bat crashed; and I lost access to my mail folder. Can I set up
 new mail folders in another drive; then when I get the old mail
 partition back in working order, can I merge the messages in the 2
 different directories into one???

C Tools/Import/The Bat! Message Base

I have many folders within each accounts.  Am I right that I have to
import one folder at a time?  Or is there a quicker/easier way?

Thanks in advance

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Re[2]: Can the messages in different message base be merged?

2005-04-14 Thread z5worg

Friday, April 08, 2005, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

C [EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 2005-Apr-8 10:21:24 PM
C Can the messages in different message base be merged? mid:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]

 The Bat crashed; and I lost access to my mail folder. Can I set up
 new mail folders in another drive; then when I get the old mail
 partition back in working order, can I merge the messages in the 2
 different directories into one???

C Tools/Import/The Bat! Message Base

I have many folders within each accounts.  Am I right that I have to
import one folder at a time?  Or is there a quicker/easier way?

Thanks in advance

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Backup problems

2005-04-14 Thread z5worg

I did a backup; and I got 2 messages:

1.  TheBat.exe - No disk -- There is no disk in the drive.  Please
insert a disk into drive A:

2.  An error occured while storing data of the folder X.  It is
possible that the message index is damaged - try to delete the index
file and re-read the folder, then try to backup again.

Re: message #1.  in the first backup, I click Cancel and it continues.
I did a backup again.  This time, I put in a diskette and click Try
again; and it continued.  But when I look at that diskette after the
backup, it has no contents.  What is that message?

Re:  message #2.  After the first backup, I deleted the tbi file for
that folder.  Re-click on that folder and it rebuilds the tbi.  Then I
ran the backup again.  The same message pops up again.  There is no
apparent problem with that folder.  What could be causing this error
message?

Thanks in advance

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Re: Backup problems

2005-04-14 Thread z5worg

Thursday, April 14, 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I did a backup; and I got 2 messages:

 1.  TheBat.exe - No disk -- There is no disk in the drive.  Please
 insert a disk into drive A:

Just now, when I deleted a message, I get this popup again: There is no disk 
in the drive.  Please
insert a disk into drive A:  Can someone tell me what is this all
about?  And what can I do to get rid of it?

Thanks in advance

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Re[2]: Account configurations files for v2.x vx v1.x

2005-04-10 Thread z5worg

Sunday, April 10, 2005, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 20:15:05 -0400GMT (10-4-2005, 2:15 +0200, where I
 live), you wrote:

 

Z Would someone please tell me what the other extensions are? And which
Z ones, if any, are not necessary for v2.x?

 Here's the list from the wiki:
 http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp/tiki-index.php?page=Program%20Folders%20and%20Files

Thanks for the link.

 account.cfg Account configuration and account templates for v1/v2 
 account.cfn Account configuration and account templates for v3 

I don't have v3; but I have .cfn in all my accounts in v2.12.

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Re[3]: Can the messages in different message base be merged?

2005-04-10 Thread z5worg

Saturday, April 09, 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Saturday, April 09, 2005, Mica Mijatovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  ~( __ _o   Was another beautiful day, Fri,  8 Apr 2005,
@  @  at 21:00:22 -0700, when [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there a way to get The Bat! to start as if it is a new installation
 -- without actually re-installing it? Or get The Bat! to look at
 another directory for the mail folders?

 1) Delete registry entry...

 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\software\rit\The Bat!]

 ...and start thebat.exe. You'll be prompted for the standard info as
 when you install it for the first time.

 2) The path to Mail directory/folder you can set at
 Options|Preferences|System|Mail Directory.

 Thanks, Mica.  It worked.

Somewhere along the line, I mess up. I have a few accounts that doesn't
show all the folders within those accounts. Other accounts do. Is there
an easy way to correct this -- instead of re-creating all the folders
again?

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Re[2]: Can the messages in different message base be merged?

2005-04-10 Thread z5worg

Sunday, April 10, 2005, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 19:52:40 -0400GMT (11-4-2005, 1:52 +0200, where I
 live), you wrote:

Z Somewhere along the line, I mess up. I have a few accounts that doesn't
Z show all the folders within those accounts. Other accounts do. Is there
Z an easy way to correct this -- instead of re-creating all the folders
Z again?

 Press Ctrl+Shift+Alt+L while you've got focus on the account tree,
 that'll restore lost folders

Thanks.  Works great.

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How to make a folder nested under another?

2005-04-10 Thread z5worg

I have 2 folders:  folder 1 and 1A.  1A is nested under 1.

I accidentally drag 1A to become folder 2 -- on the same level as folder
1.  How do I get it to nest under folder 1 again?

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Re[2]: Can the messages in different message base be merged?

2005-04-09 Thread z5worg

Saturday, April 09, 2005, Mica Mijatovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  ~( __ _o   Was another beautiful day, Fri,  8 Apr 2005,
@  @  at 21:00:22 -0700, when [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there a way to get The Bat! to start as if it is a new installation
 -- without actually re-installing it? Or get The Bat! to look at
 another directory for the mail folders?

 1) Delete registry entry...

 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\software\rit\The Bat!]

 ...and start thebat.exe. You'll be prompted for the standard info as
 when you install it for the first time.

 2) The path to Mail directory/folder you can set at
 Options|Preferences|System|Mail Directory.

Thanks, Mica.  It worked.


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Account configurations files for v2.x vx v1.x

2005-04-09 Thread z5worg
I have the following Account files in v2.x for some of the Accounts:

   ~flb cfg cfn flb fld flx fpf his log m_d m_r srt and srx

In some accounts, I also have ~fb.

I assume log is connection log; and his is history (history of
what?).

Would someone please tell me what the other extensions are? And which
ones, if any, are not necessary for v2.x?

For those extensions that are the same for v1.x and v2.x, which ones
have different content -- since v2.x has more configuration options than
1.x?

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Re[6]: IMAP4 Configuration

2005-03-29 Thread z5worg

Monday, March 28, 2005, Allie Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED],
On 28/3/2005 12:29 AM -0500, you wrote:

 IMAP4 a/c has the Inbox, Outbox, etc. Does those count? Anyway, How
 do I see the messages on the server so that I can select them and
 drag  drop???

 Go in the IMAP account properties, navigate to the 'Mail Management'
 options and ensure that the you enable the options under
 'Automatically connect to the server'  'at startup', 'For managing
 folders', 'When account is selected', and 'By any command'.

I did that; and still nothing happens.

 Clicking on each folder should show their content, since selecting
 each folder will lead to a header synchronisation provided the
 connection with the server has been successfully established.

I don't see message listings.  I noticed that under Manage IMAP Folders,
the Drafts, Sent Items and Trash folders seem to be indented under
Inbox.  On my PC, the folders are named Outbox, Sent Mail and Trash; and
they are at the same level as the Inbox.  Could this be the problem?

 If you're not seeing the folder's content then it may be a problem
 with TB! and your server.

 When I click on Get new mail (or Connect to Server), I get the
 Connection Center; but no activity, no messsages, no downloading.
 Then it time out. [I logged onto its webmail; and there are a few
 messages there.]

 In Manage IMAP Folders, for the Inbox, I have a check mark in
 Subscribe; and do not synchronize.

 Even if 'do not synchronize' is ticked, selecting the Inbox will still
 lead to a header sync. The synchronizing options there are for 
 unattended, automatic syncs without the folder being selected.




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Re[8]: IMAP4 Configuration

2005-03-29 Thread z5worg

Tuesday, March 29, 2005, Allie Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED],
On 29/3/2005 3:02 AM -0500, you wrote:

 I did that; and still nothing happens.

 Hmmm. Not good. You should have been seeing something.

 I don't see message listings.  I noticed that under Manage IMAP
 Folders, the Drafts, Sent Items and Trash folders seem to be indented
 under Inbox.  On my PC, the folders are named Outbox, Sent Mail and
 Trash; and they are at the same level as the Inbox.  Could this be
 the problem?

 Go back to the Mail Management options in the IMAP account properties 
 and for the Predefined folders, uncheck all of them. This will make the
 Outbox, Sent mail and Trash local. When finished, exit and restart TB!.
 Select the Inbox and see what happens.

Those folders were not checked when I looked.  I guess I will give up.

 If still nothing happens, I draw a blank. I don't know why. I'd try 
 another client just to be sure you can access the account via IMAP.

Version 1.x at least download the messages.  Thanks for all the help.

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Re[2]: How to set orders for displaying messages for each account?

2005-03-27 Thread z5worg

Saturday, March 26, 2005, MFPA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi

 On Friday 25 March 2005 at 1:17:51 AM, in
 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 But the problem now is when I change the display/listing order
 in one folder (under folder properties), it changes the default
 order and applies to ALL accounts/folders.

 Have you a Global View Mode set?
 (see View menu in main TB! window)

I have a black dot next to Generic ViewMode

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Re[2]: How to set orders for displaying messages for each account?

2005-03-27 Thread z5worg

Friday, March 25, 2005, Alexander S. Kunz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED]  everyone else,

 on 25-Mrz-2005 at 02:17 you ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 So, my question is how to set a different order of display for some
 folders WITHOUT changing the default order for ALL accounts? And is it
 possible to change the order for all folders in a particular account? Or
 do I have to do it for each folder in the account?

 Check into the Viewmodes feature of TB. You can set up a number of
 viewmodes for the different sort options and then apply that viewmode
 to the folders where you need it.

I finally find the Viewmode feature under Right-Clicking the Column
Heading of the Message List.

I get into Manage ViewMode, create a new viewmode to sort by Subject.
And then click of Used By and check two folders. When I go to those 2
folders, the display order does not change -- it is still sorted by Date
(Generic View Mode). And when I look under the Folder properties of
those 2 folders, it shows that it is set to the new view mode (by
Subject). So, what am I doing wrong?

I am new to v2.  Please be verbose in your response.


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Re[4]: IMAP4 Configuration

2005-03-27 Thread z5worg

Friday, March 25, 2005, Allie Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  On 24/3/2005 8:34 PM -0500, you wrote:
 ..

 1. First I need to know how to move the messages from the server to my
 PC. How do I do that?

 Make a local folder, i.e., a common folder or a folder in a TB! POP 
 account. Select all the messages in the IMAP account, then drag and 
 drop them to the local folders.

IMAP4 a/c has the Inbox, Outbox, etc.  Does those count?  Anyway, How do
I see the messages on the server so that I can select them and drag  drop???

When I click on Get new mail (or Connect to Server), I get the
Connection Center; but no activity, no messsages, no downloading.  Then
it time out.  [I logged onto its webmail; and there are a few messages
there.]

In Manage IMAP Folders, for the Inbox, I have a check mark in
Subscribe; and do not synchronize.

I still don't know how to get to see the messages on the server.


 Sometimes this doesn't go smoothly and exporting the IMAP messages to 
 file and then importing them to the local folders makes the better 
 option.

 2.  What is the filter for all messages -- *.* ??  And I guess I
 delete the messages under the Action tab?

 You could create a filter that matches 'e' in the headers. This will 
 catch all messages. Have the message moved to the local folder and then
 deleted.

 3.  Then how to set a filter for further filtering the incoming
 messages to other folders/accounts?  Or is #2 and #3 are just one
 filter?

 You need a separate filter for each destination account and folder in 
 which case, you'd need to be more selective with your string matching.

 The Bat created the default folders when the account was created. And
 I added a few. Must the folders in TheBat match exactly with the
 folders on the server?  [I really don't want these other folders on
 the server -- even if they are all empty.]

 Once you create a folder in TB! for your IMAP account, you've created 
 one on the server. Right click the IMAP account and select 'Manage IMAP
 folders', or just hit Alt-F7. There you'll see all folders on the 
 server. If you create a folder in TB!, you've created the same folder 
 on the server and autosubscribed to it.

 Separately, this IMAP4 account did not port over well when I switch
 over from v1.x to v2.x.  So I had to delete the old and create a new
 account with IMAP4 protocol.  And I copy over the messages.tbl and
 .tbi. However, v2 is not displaying all the messages.  How can I get
 it to display messages in that account?

 I'm not sure about that. Try the 'Manage IMAP folders' to see what's on
 the server and subscribe to all the folders that are there.




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Re[4]: How to set orders for displaying messages for each account?

2005-03-27 Thread z5worg

Sunday, March 27, 2005, Stuart Cuddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello z5worg,
 Sunday, March 27, 2005, 8:50:57 PM, you wrote:

zzc I get into Manage ViewMode, create a new viewmode to sort by Subject.
zzc And then click of Used By and check two folders. When I go to those 2
zzc folders, the display order does not change -- it is still sorted by Date
zzc (Generic View Mode). And when I look under the Folder properties of
zzc those 2 folders, it shows that it is set to the new view mode (by
zzc Subject). So, what am I doing wrong?

zzc I am new to v2.  Please be verbose in your response.

  Make sure that View/Global Viewmode is set to (No Viewmode).

That does it.  Thanks.

  I  really wish they would do away with this thing as this causes more
  trouble than it is worth.

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IMAP4 Configuration

2005-03-24 Thread z5worg

I recently started to use v2 that I bought overght 1-yr. ago.  I have no
idea how to configure it for IMAP4 protocol.  All I want to do is
download all messages from the server; and automatically delete them on
the server after download.

I got it to work in v1.x; but those settings doesn't work in v2.  when I
click on Get Mail, the connection box comes up, but doesn't retrieve
mail.  It times out after a while and quit.  Can anyone help?

Also, in the Properties  Transport  Receive Mail, when I click on
change password, it doesn't do anything.

And does Sychronize means a 2-way sychronize between the server and my
PC?




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How to set orders for displaying messages for each account?

2005-03-24 Thread z5worg

In v1.x, I couldn't set a default order for listing messages in various
accounts. Now, in v2, I can do that. But the problem now is when I
change the display/listing order in one folder (under folder
properties), it changes the default order and applies to ALL
accounts/folders. Basically, the default order is ascending order by
Creation Date of the messages; and I want some folders to be in reverse
order.

So, my question is how to set a different order of display for some
folders WITHOUT changing the default order for ALL accounts?  And is it
possible to change the order for all folders in a particular account?
Or do I have to do it for each folder in the account?

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Re[2]: IMAP4 Configuration

2005-03-24 Thread z5worg

Thursday, March 24, 2005, Allie Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  On 24/03/2005 06:35 AM -0500, you wrote:

 I recently started to use v2 that I bought overght 1-yr. ago.  I have no
 idea how to configure it for IMAP4 protocol.  All I want to do is
 download all messages from the server; and automatically delete them on
 the server after download.

 Why would you wish to do that with IMAP4. That's what POP3 is for, and
 furthermore, I'm not sure that IMAP only accounts exist. Usually
 they're manageable using only POP3 or both IMAP and POP3.

IMAP4 is the only protocol for the free accounts at that place.  May be
I should just ditch that account?

 Since v2, TB! does IMAP the way it should be done in that the messages
 are truly managed on the server and kept there. If you wish to do what
 you want, then you'd need to create filters to delete the messages as
 they're found on the server and move them to local folders on your
 system.

1. First I need to know how to move the messages from the server to my
PC. How do I do that?

2.  What is the filter for all messages -- *.* ??  And I guess I delete
the messages under the Action tab?

3.  Then how to set a filter for further filtering the incoming messages
to other folders/accounts?  Or is #2 and #3 are just one filter?

 The local folders would be either common folders, or folders within a
 POP account. The folders you create in an IMAP account are actually
 folders created on the server.

The Bat created the default folders when the account was created. And I
added a few. Must the folders in TheBat match exactly with the folders
on the server?  [I really don't want these other folders on the server --
even if they are all empty.]

Separately, this IMAP4 account did not port over well when I switch over
from v1.x to v2.x.  So I had to delete the old and create a new account
with IMAP4 protocol.  And I copy over the messages.tbl and .tbi.
However, v2 is not displaying all the messages.  How can I get it to
display messages in that account?

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Re[2]: Total Commander

2004-11-05 Thread z5worg

Thursday, November 04, 2004, MAU [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 .

 The WinXP in Windows Explorer is already set to Show hidden files
 and folders and Hide protected operating system files is also
 unchecked. But I still cannot open the System Volume Information
 folder. Have you open that folder and copied any files from that
 folder? If not, would you try and let me know? I am simply trying
 to use TC to make a full backup copy of my C: drive (a new
 installation of WinXP); so that if I need to reinstall a clean copy
 of WinXP, I can simply do a copy from this backup and it would be
 mostly all configured.

 To be able to open, or view or copy the System Volume Information
 you would need to change the the access permissions because, as I
 think I told you in my previous message, it is only accessible to
 the system. In particular for System Restore.

 On the other hand, even if you could do so, backing up the System
 Volume Information would serve you no purpose because if you are
 going to install XP again, it will create/configure a new System
 Volume Information for each volume (drive or partition).

Thanks for the info. Does that mean that I can have a clean
reinstall of WinXP by copying back from the backup copy described
above -- without the System Volume Informaiton files? So does the OS
create/configure a new System Volume Informaiton ONLY IF I reinstall
from the WinXP installation CD?

 Anyway, if you are curious and what to see what's inside, take a
 look at:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;309531

 or

http://www.theeldergeek.com/system_volume_information_folder1.htm

 or search Google for more links.

Thanks for the links.

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Re[2]: Total Commander

2004-11-04 Thread z5worg

Thursday, November 04, 2004, Mica Mijatovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 .

 Do I need some specific settings in WinXP?  [I am the only user on that
 computer; so I don't have to log in or anything.]

 Yes, you'd need. You may set this up in Windows Explorer (I think it is
 somewhere under View menu),

The WinXP in Windows Explorer is already set to Show hidden files and
folders  and Hide protected operating system files is also
unchecked.  But I still cannot open the System Volume Information
folder.  Have you open that folder and copied any files from that
folder?  If not, would you try and let me know?  I am simply trying to
use TC to make a full backup copy of my C: drive (a new installation of WinXP); so 
that if I need to reinstall
a clean copy of WinXP, I can simply do a copy from this backup and it
would be mostly all configured.

 but as Miguel said, it is a sensitive
 thing: if we do not know exactly what we are doing we can screw our
 system up very easily, which is not a big tragedy since Windows does it
 to itself by definition and on a regular basis, but the only problem is
 then that you'd need to reinstall it again and most of if not all the
 programs as well, somewhere along the way loosing perhaps few of your
 important or even precious documents - and all of this needs some TIME,
 some for work and some for mourning, which may be done simultaneously or
 separately, depending on attitude we grow in such moments, or on our
 specific habits, dictated by our particular culture, being it our
 personal one, or of some wider nature we as individuals accept and obey
 to, preferably willingly.

I appreciate your kind note of caution. But I resent Miguel's tone
(and people like him) who jumps to conclusion and thinks he knows it
all when he couldn't possibly have.

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Account from which email is sent

2004-11-03 Thread z5worg

For the TBUDL list, I have a Reply Template and I set the Account to
%ACCOUNT=Zworg.  The name of this Account was xyz with an email
address of [EMAIL PROTECTED]; and I renamed it to Zworg with an email
address of [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Now, when I click on Reply to respond to a TBUDL message, I find the
From address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- EVEN
THOUGH Zworg is shown as the Account on the bottom of te screen
(below the scroll bar) and there4 should be using [EMAIL PROTECTED] for
the From address.

Can someone tell me how to correct this problem?

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Re[2]: Account from which email is sent

2004-11-03 Thread z5worg

Wednesday, November 03, 2004, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 03:06:38 -0500GMT (3-11-2004, 9:06 +0100, where I
 live), you wrote:

Z Can someone tell me how to correct this problem?

 I guess you're encountering a bug.
 Try the %From=address macro instead of the %account macro.

It works.  Thanks.


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Re[2]: Total Commander

2004-11-03 Thread z5worg

Wednesday, November 03, 2004, Mica Mijatovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there anyone here using TC in WinXP-Home?  I find that Copy in TC
 will no longer copy system and some other files.  Is that the ways
 it is?  Or can I get around it?

 As Martin said, it depends on OS settings: if on the OS level is set
 that system files are hidden, then TC will obey to this rule (will not
 see them, although it will display them with an exclamation mark in
 the icon). So you would just have to change this OS setting to show
 system (or all) files and TC will be able to apply all actions on them
 it can, including copying.

If by OS settings you mean TC's settings, it was sett to show
hidden/system files and I can see them.

I can't remember which file wasn't copying when I tried to copy the
entire C drive before. But I am on the WinXP-Home computer now, and I
can't even open the C:\System Volume Information directory/folder to
see what files are in there.  And when I tried to copy that
directory, it doesn't nothing.  When I do a Shift+Alt+Enter to
calculate the disk space occupied by each directory, it shows the
result for each directory EXCEPT the system Volume Information
directory.

Do I need some specific settings in WinXP?  [I am the only user on that
computer; so I don't have to log in or anything.]

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Re[2]: Version 3.x

2004-11-02 Thread z5worg

Tuesday, November 02, 2004, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 00:33:15 -0500GMT (1-11-2004, 6:33 +0100, where I
 live), you wrote:

 ..

Z 2.  Will the backup/restore copy all configurations, accounts,
Z filters, etc. from v1.x to 3.x?

 There's no need to do any backup/restore during the upgrade. You
 should be able to install v3 on top of v1 without any problems.

I am thinking of installing v3 on a new computer ONLY; and would keep
and use v1.62 on my current computer until I determine whether I
want to switch to v3 permanently.

 Some config files changed.
 folder info:   account.flx - account.flb
 account info:  account.cfg - account.cfn
 filters:   account.srx - account.srb

 ...

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Re[2]: Total Commander

2004-11-02 Thread z5worg

Tuesday, November 02, 2004, Mica Mijatovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Sorry, I've not seen previous mails of this topic : what is Total
 Commander ?

 It's a small, fast and very powerful two-windowed file (but also ftp)
 manager, with many useful plug-ins. www.ghisler.com

Is there anyone here using TC in WinXP-Home?  I find that Copy in TC
will no longer copy system and some other files.  Is that the ways
it is?  Or can I get around it?

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Version 3.x

2004-11-01 Thread z5worg

1.  How is v3 compare to v1.62 -- in terms of memory requirements and
speed/performance.  Is v3 more bloated and slower?

2.  Will the backup/restore copy all configurations, accounts,
filters, etc. from v1.x to 3.x?

3.  Do the messages.tbb and messages.tbi have the same structure in
v1.x and 3.x? i.e. can I copy the *.tbb and *.tbi from a computer with
1.x to another another computer with v3? Or do I have to use Backup
and Restore?

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Message files -- versions 1.6x and 2.12

2004-10-27 Thread z5worg

I have one computer on Win98SE with The Bat! 1.62 and a new computer
with WinXP-Home and The Bat! 2.12.

Do the messages.tbb and messages.tbi have the same structure in both
of the above versions?  i.e. can I copy the *.tbb and *.tbi from one
computer to another?   Or do I have to use Backup and Restore?

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PGP in v2.12

2004-10-27 Thread z5worg

I have copied the 3 batpgpNN.dll files (the same ones from version
1.6x) in The Bat!'s program directory.  However, when I click on
Tools  OpenPGP  Choose OpenPGP Version, the Open PGP 6.0x/6.5x plugin
is grayed out.

How do I make the plugin a selectable option?

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Re[2]: Migration from v1.6 to 2.12

2004-10-27 Thread z5worg

Tuesday, October 26, 2004, Alexander S. Kunz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 1:07:56 AM, you wrote:

 How do I get the WinXP computer to pick up all the accounts in the
 Mail directory AND the message filters for each Account -- without
 having to re-create all of them?

 TheBat has a built-in backup function (in the Tools menu). Make a
 backup of your 1.6x installation and restore it on the other machine,
 that should do the trick.

Thanks, that did the trick.

 The colors of the icons are different from 1.x. I prefer those of
 1.x -- the colors and outlines are stronger and easier to
 distinguish. Can I change the icons to those from 1.x? If yes, how?

 You can use so called glyphs (an external set of icons). You can
 start at batworld.de - its a german site but you can access the files
 for v1/v2 directly with this link:
 http://www.batworld.net/modules.php?op=modloadname=Sectionsfile=indexreq=listarticlessecid=3

Thanks.  I downloaded one of the files.  How do I replace the program
icons with the downloaded *.bmp file?

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Re[2]: PGP in v2.12

2004-10-27 Thread z5worg

Wednesday, October 27, 2004, Allie Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wednesday, October 27, 2004 at 11:09:40 AM [GMT -0500], Alexander
 S. Kunz wrote:

 I'm not 100% sure, but IIRC v2 doesn't need the batpgpNN DLL's anymore.

 You can install PGP (version 5,6,7 or 8) and should be able to select PGP
 5,6,7,8 (built in support) from the menu; at least thats how it works with
 v3 here, and it hasn't changed AFAIK.

 You may find that the older PGP versions work better with the old
 plugin dll's. They're available for download from the Ritlabs site.

I have PGP 6.5.8 freeware. The batpgpNN DLL's were the ones downloaded
from Ritlab sometime ago. But as I said, I unzipped the files into the
Program directory, and the Choose OpenPGP Version option is grayed
out.

Where should I put the batpgpNN DLL?

 However, if you're running PGP v8, the integrated support is the best
 to use.

Is there a PGP v8 freeware?  If yes, should I upgrade or not?  [I
don't use PGP that often.]  If yes, where can I download it?  Are
there substantial differences between PGP v6.x and v8?

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Re: Boycott then purchase of V3

2004-10-27 Thread z5worg

Wednesday, October 27, 2004, WilWilWil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 

 Bugs strongly handicapping me in V2 are corrected in V3. Did I have

I bought v2 last January; but haven't really used it yet. I just
installed it on a new computer last week. I am still using v1.62. What
kinds of bugs are there in v2? Serious bugs?

I just send and receive emails, filtering into different folders, very
elementary macros. Should I just stayed with v.162 and forget about
v2.12?


 really the choice? My trial version finished this evening. And to
 leave TB it is too heavy for me (files of 7000 mails, 50 rules of
 sorting, bayesit which makes finally its job after 4 months of
 training, and my plugin AVG7 which correctly quarantines virused
 mails (except 1 this week).

 ..

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Migration from v1.6 to 2.12

2004-10-25 Thread z5worg

I have v 1.62 on a Win98SE computer.  My mailbox is in a directory
that is different from the program directory.

I have a new computer running WinXP-Home.  I copy my Mail directory to
this computer and installed v2.12, specifying the location of the Mail
directory.

How do I get the WinXP computer to pick up all the accounts in the
Mail directory AND the message filters for each Account -- without
having to re-create all of them?

The colors of the icons are different from 1.x.  I prefer those of 1.x
-- the colors and outlines are stronger and easier to distinguish.
Can I change the icons to those from 1.x?  If yes, how?

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