Some time around 09/04/2004 19:14:22, I think I heard Roelof Otten say:
You might be overlooking Allie's point too.
No, I understood his/her point (sorry, I have learned not to assume gender by names);
hence my response.
!SNIP!
Whereas what Allie said was that Ritlabs had to satisfy a lot
Dear Dz-Jay,
@5-Sep-2004, 09:38 -0400 (05-Sep 14:38 UK time) DZ-Jay [DJ] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Roelof:
DJ !SNIP!
Whereas what Allie said was that Ritlabs had to satisfy a lot of
customers. Some need another UI, some need one bugfix or another. When
you're a company and 100 users
Some time around 09/05/2004 09:42:17, I think I heard Marck D Pearlstone say:
DJ as they are functional deficiencies, which impede use at the most,
DJ and annoy and frustrate users at the least.
Incorrect.
Bugs are functional deficiencies that impede at worst, yes, but the
least effect of a
Some time around 09/05/2004 09:42:17, I think I heard Marck D Pearlstone say:
DJ as they are functional deficiencies, which impede use at the most,
DJ and annoy and frustrate users at the least.
Incorrect.
Bugs are functional deficiencies that impede at worst, yes, but the
least effect of a
Hi Jack,
Sunday, September 5, 2004, 7:44:57 PM, you wrote:
Jack Sunday, September 5, 2004, 10:43:52 AM, you wrote:
Maybe RitLabs is not well suited to build a good e-mail
client capable of competing in todays market.
Jack IMO, until they learn how to spell the word
Tony, [T] wrote:
there is no much use continuing this chat.
I picked this up from early. It's OK.
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The Bat! v3.0 · Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2)
. Oxymoron: Definite possibility
Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using
Maybe RitLabs is not well suited to build a good e-mail
client capable of competing in todays market.
Jack IMO, until they learn how to spell the word D-O-C-U-M-E-N-T-A-T-I-O-N,
Jack they're dead meat.
Jack And that would truly be a damn shame.
That's one of the worst things about the way
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.
All of the above is one of the reasons that I am thinking of leaving
The Bat! I am beginning to think it is an unstable program, it
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Mica Mijatovic wrote:
| I stick with v2.12 which works (still enough) fine (for me).
I returned to Thunderbird (too many problems with nightly builds my
fault for experimenting) and now have settled on Mozilla Suite while
the dust settles. They too
Some time around 09/04/2004 19:14:22, I think I heard Roelof Otten say:
You might be overlooking Allie's point too.
No, I understood his/her point (sorry, I have learned not to assume gender by names);
hence my response.
!SNIP!
Whereas what Allie said was that Ritlabs had to satisfy a lot
Bryan Anderson wrote:
BA Butwhat has happened? I buy the software, install it and sign
BA up to the mailing list only to discover dissent in the
BA rankswhat is the score with the licence and why are so many
BA people unhapy with the new version?
I think there's a feeling that a lot of
Tony, [T] wrote:
Add fat graphics, animated stuff, and useless gadgets. IMO TB! made
it's 1st step in that direction with the new icons and promise of
skins.
soapbox
You know, I find this interesting.
The very common negative commentary about new icons and smilies with
improved XP look
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@ @ when Allie Martin wrote:
The very common negative commentary about new icons and smilies with
improved XP look support is just testimony to how these things are
Hello Allie,
Saturday, September 4, 2004, 1:44:44 PM, you wrote:
Tony, [T] wrote:
Add fat graphics, animated stuff, and useless gadgets. IMO TB! made
it's 1st step in that direction with the new icons and promise of
skins.
soapbox
You know, I find this interesting.
The very common
Hello Ben!
On Saturday, September 04, 2004, 8:02 AM, you wrote:
Allie But please, I'm personally really getting tired of the
Allie comments about smilies and new icons as if they comprise a
Allie HUGE coding effort that could have been channeled elsewhere,
Allie or that they comprise a
Hello Tony,
05-Sep-2004 00:48, you wrote:
The very common negative commentary about new icons and smilies with
improved XP look support is just testimony to how these things are
noticed, whether it be positively or negatively.
The 1st thing I do after installing XP is reverting everything
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@ @ when Clive Taylor wrote:
The only issue I have with smilies is that it's impossible to ignore
the ):( type characters in the text - and that's just as annoying
Tony, [T] wrote:
The 1st thing I do after installing XP is reverting everything to
classic w2k look.
Choice. It's all a matter of choice.
Roelof recently stated that TB! doesn't look any different to him
since he still uses the glyph set he likes.
With your glyph set and the classic Windows
Ben Allen, [BA] wrote:
Go Allie go Allie go.
from the new non mod allie cheerleading squad
LOL! A lightish weekend, so far (keeping fingers and toes crossed),
does allow for the occasional soap-boxing. ;)
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-= Allie =-
The Bat! v3.0 · Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2)
. S met ing's hap
The ecstasy's around the corner, and is lurking.
Well, assuming you're talking about smilies and not drugs, that would
be fantastic.
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Regards Clive T
Nursing the under-developed TB 3.0
Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
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@ @ when Clive Taylor wrote:
The ecstasy's around the corner, and is lurking.
Well, assuming you're talking about smilies and not drugs, that would
be fantastic.
I'm
Tony, [T] wrote:
I never claimed diffrently. I even think a good UI takes a *lot* of
development time. And is *very* important. But UI is more then
icons.
Sure, and this is why I keep saying 'user interface *appearance*'. The
user interface as a whole is an entirely different thing to talk
But I re-think that removing them from original messages wouldn't still
do anything useful (because of interrupting a consistency of the
original, whichever it can be).
I made the original suggestion somewhat lightheartedly; I recognise
that it would be difficult/impossible to implement.
Hello Tony,
04-Sep-2004 09:38, you wrote:
You could as well discuss wether you like the beginning of the first track
of insert-your-favorite-band-here's new CD, and how it evolves into the
2nd track.
Wouldn't that be of topic?
LOL!
It's just that I'm using software for over 20 years and
Some time around 09/04/2004 12:07:27, I think I heard Allie Martin say:
I disagree here. I'm saying that bugs are in TB!, many are frustrated
with their bugs not being fixed, and many quite unreasonably cast a
lot of blame/attention/emphasis on the changes being made to the
user-interface
Hallo DZ-Jay,
On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 14:05:39 -0400GMT (4-9-2004, 20:05 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:
DJ I believe you are missing the point.
You might be overlooking Allie's point too.
DJ The point is that focusing on the UI, however minor the
DJ modifications introduced, while there is a
On Fri 3-Sep-04 2:32pm -0400, Mary Bull wrote:
I think that it loads faster upon launch, also.
Mary, are you using the efficient version (pro) or the easy
version (home)?
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Best regards,
Bill
Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL'
Hello Bill!
On Saturday, September 04, 2004, 6:26 PM, you wrote:
MB I think that it loads faster upon launch, also.
BM Mary, are you using the efficient version (pro) or the easy
BM version (home)?
I'm using the Professional version. And just today, because I'm
subscribed to tbbeta, I saw an
On Sunday, September 5, 2004 @ 1:15:08 PM, Mary Bull wrote:
[snips]
Mary It loads fast, also, and--whether coincidence or not--my mails are
Mary coming down faster from the Mail Dispatcher, too.
How are you measuring that?
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cheers, Mic (reply address works)
If you would be a real seeker
On Sunday, September 5, 2004 @ 2:05:39 AM, DZ-Jay wrote:
[snips]
DZ-Jay Its not that it is such a large programming effort to change
DZ-Jay the UI of the application and that those efforts could be diverted to
DZ-Jay debugging the application. The point is that focusing on the UI,
DZ-Jay
Hello Mic!
On Sunday, September 05, 2004, 12:18 AM, you wrote:
Mary It loads fast, also, and--whether coincidence or not--my mails
Mary are coming down faster from the Mail Dispatcher, too.
MicCullen How are you measuring that?
Subjectively, of course. Didn't put a stopwatch on it. But 75
On Sunday, September 5, 2004 @ 1:32:58 PM, Mary Bull wrote:
[snips]
Mary It loads fast, also, and--whether coincidence or not--my mails
Mary are coming down faster from the Mail Dispatcher, too.
MicCullen How are you measuring that?
Mary Subjectively, of course. Didn't put a stopwatch on it.
The Bat! is a great client and if you were happy enough with it to buy it
then I don't think you have wasted your money.
However I have moved from TB! to Outlook 2003 with Nelson Email Organiser
and I am loving it. It is an amazing bit of software :)
--
Morgan Pugh
E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
W:
Hello Bryan!
On Friday, September 03, 2004, 10:48 AM, you wrote:
BA Butwhat has happened? I buy the software, install it and sign
BA up to the mailing list only to discover dissent in the
BA rankswhat is the score with the licence and why are so many
BA people unhapy with the new
Mary wrote:
snippage
But the product is a good one, I think.
It is - but I have a suspicion that it's been released a tad early.
The help system is all Version 2, the mail ticker seems to behave a
bt oddly (showing read messages for some reason) and my headers are
claiming I am running Pro
Hello Bryan Anderson,
03-Sep-2004 17:48, you wrote:
Have I made a guff in deciding to stay away from Outlook
and stay with/invest in The Bat!?
No, you haven't, on the contrary. The Bat is one helluva fine email client
(the more I've been looking for alternatives, the more I found myself
Hi Morgan,
On Fri, 3 Sep 2004, at 20:27:04 [GMT+0100] (which was Sat, 5:27:04
Australian Eastern Time) you wrote:
However I have moved from TB! to Outlook 2003 with Nelson Email Organiser
and I am loving it. It is an amazing bit of software :)
Amazing how it top posts, as well!
--
John
Hello Bryan,
It is - but I have a suspicion that it's been released a tad early.
Yes, most of us think that way. But don't worry, I'm quite confident
that quite soon we'll get completely boiled and cooked version 3.01 or
something like that.
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial -
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