Secure POP3?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Does anyone use TB! for retrieving messages from server with POP3 and secure connection (STARTLS)? Both secure to regular and dedicated port end up with this: ===8===[ Begin paste ]= 31/07/2003, 13:44:18: FETCH - receiving mail messages !31/07/2003, 13:44:19: FETCH - Server reports error. The response is: -ERR authorization first ===8[ End paste ]== On the same server, with same settings, secure connection works for IMAP. I've tried messing with authorization options, but it didn't help. Why is that log so brief, it doesn't even report connecting to server or anything (with IMAP it's full of information)? The Bat! 1.62r, Win2000. Domchi -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt Comment: KeyID: 0x33FAB7E4 Comment: Fingerprint: FD16 4946 03AF 4E93 5B0F EE8B B81E AA54 33FA B7E4 iQA/AwUBPypnfLgeqlQz+rfkEQJiFACgwa45SuU0Mjk33Y6dUr4mh9h+AT8AnjSd vEkYDP4E0HQ5nP9PS4zAVO6d =X4gH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Secure POP3?
Dear Domagoj, On 16:13 01.08.2003, you [Domagoj Klepac] wrote... On the same server, with same settings, secure connection works for IMAP. I've tried messing with authorization options, but it didn't help. Why is that log so brief, it doesn't even report connecting to server or anything (with IMAP it's full of information)? draenor:~# telnet mx.ouroboros.hr 110 Trying 66.135.32.98... Connected to server1.ouroboros.hr. Escape character is '^]'. +OK [EMAIL PROTECTED] capa -ERR authorization first quit +OK Connection closed by foreign host. draenor:~# Perhaps TheBat tries to verify that your server understands STARTSSL? As it negates the CAPAbility command, one cannot tell for sure. On a side note, your ISPs server is listed in our/the lists MTA configuration: hosts_avoid_tls = ouroboros.hr : epost.de We had real problems when using STARTTLS, which is advertised by the mx.ouroboros.hr but which in 75% of cases led to an error... Perhaps the same happens with pop? Cheers, Johannesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- What good is having someone who can walk on water if you don't follow in his footsteps? Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Secure POP3?
Domagoj- try http://www.stunnel.org -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [problems (IMAP, secure pop3, certificates, etc.)/help needed]
Hello James! On Friday, December 27, 2002 at 7:17:32 AM you wrote: Does version 2 have any anticipated release date? Somewhere in the future. Sorry, the only thing known about the release date is that the developers wok hard on it. Hopefully soon? I keep hearing of people reporting problems and shortcomings with this version and that version that are supposedly fixed in version 2, but I don't believe I've heard any official word from RITLabs about what new features / bug fixes are in version 2 and when they believe they'll have either the beta or final product ready. There once was an interview Marck conducted. Most of what was promised then has now been become part of 1.6x. BTW, there are not many bugs left in TB, and the shortcomings have more to do with certain aspects users want. -- Dierk Haasis The Bat 1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600Service Pack 1 Wer von anderen nichts erwartet, darf sich nicht wundern, wenn er nichts erhält. (Aleks Papst) Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[problems (IMAP, secure pop3, certificates, etc.)/help needed]
Dear all, we are attempting to use TheBat (v 1.62) to a secure IMAP server at the university campus. I dont know how many hours I have lost in this matter. There is no way I can connect. I have tested all of the alternatives but it wont go. Netscape Mail and Outlook Express are really lousy programs but they do this automatically (exchange certificates and connect to the IMAP secure server *flawlessly*). I have exported the certificates (both mine and the one from the university server) from IExplorer, imported them to TheBat and put them into the Trusted address book. I attempted to connect either through IMAP on port 995 or POP3 on port 993 and have used all of the alternativa/combinations given by TheBat. Nogo. Nogo. Could you advice, please, on what I should do ? To me, it is amazing how this can be done automatically on lousy email programs and it is -- so -- difficult to do with TheBat. The mailserver is aguayro.ulpgc.es or aguayro.gestion.ulpgc.es Please, don tell me ask your sysop because they just deny the possibility to use other email programs then the ones they chose. Any help will be *mostly* appreciated. Thank you. Merry xmas to all. Cheers, APS Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [problems (IMAP, secure pop3, certificates, etc.)/help needed]
Hello Aldo! On Thursday, December 26, 2002 at 11:47:42 AM you wrote: Could you advice, please, on what I should do ? Well, TB 1.x does support IMAP only very rudimentary, it will connect to the server and download mail. Actually IMAP in TB is currently nothing more than POP3 via IMAP server. Version 2 is said to have complete IMAP support. -- Dierk Haasis The Bat 1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600Service Pack 1 The First Amendment presupposes that right conclusions are more likely to be gathered out of a multitude of tongues, than through any kind of authoritative selection. (Judge Learned Hand as cited in New York Times v. Sullivan) Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: [problems (IMAP, secure pop3, certificates, etc.)/help needed]
Hello Dierk, Thursday, December 26, 2002, 11:59:20 AM, you wrote: DH Well, TB 1.x does support IMAP only very rudimentary, it will connect DH to the server and download mail. Actually IMAP in TB is currently DH nothing more than POP3 via IMAP server. DH Version 2 is said to have complete IMAP support. It's not just IMAP problem. The same happens with POP3 using TLS protocol. I had to get and installa manually the certificate of my ISP in order to establish a secure communication. Is this a missing feature, or is a deliberate behaviour? Ciao, Luigi -- Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition On Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [problems (IMAP, secure pop3, certificates, etc.)/help needed]
Hello Luigi! On Thursday, December 26, 2002 at 1:55:59 PM you wrote: It's not just IMAP problem. The same happens with POP3 using TLS protocol. I had to get and installa manually the certificate of my ISP in order to establish a secure communication. Is this a missing feature, or is a deliberate behaviour? I'd say it's a problem with secure connections. You see, to establish one, you need a server supporting it and the correct implementation incl. certificates. A feature of TB is to use the best secure method even if the server doesn't use it. But in one of the last versions that was changed to revert to the next possible authentication, AFAIK. When TB connects to one of my mail servers (don't know if it is POP or SMTP) the log always shows unknown authentication method but TB nonetheless connects. Sorry to be that vague, but this is more a question for some of our more tech savvy members, who seem to be vacationing. -- Dierk Haasis The Bat 1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600Service Pack 1 Yes, *you* can make a difference. You just have to *do* something ... anything. (Derek Leveret) Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [problems (IMAP, secure pop3, certificates, etc.)/help needed]
Hello Aldo, Thursday, December 26, 2002, 7:17:42 AM, you wrote: APSA Dear all, we are attempting to use TheBat (v 1.62) to a secure APSA IMAP server at the university campus. APSA I dont know how many hours I have lost in this matter. There is Very sorry to hear. APSA no way I can connect. I have tested all of the alternatives but APSA it wont go. There really isn't anything special you need to be doing to receive mail. You could always post what error message you get. APSA Netscape Mail and Outlook Express are really lousy programs but APSA they do this automatically (exchange certificates and connect to APSA the IMAP secure server *flawlessly*). APSA I have exported the certificates (both mine and the one from the APSA university server) from IExplorer, imported them to TheBat and APSA put them into the Trusted address book. I attempted to connect APSA either through IMAP on port 995 or POP3 on port 993 and have used APSA all of the alternativa/combinations given by TheBat. Nogo. Nogo. APSA Could you advice, please, on what I should do ? There are few options you can tinker with. Seems like something is up with your provider. Maybe if your provider can provide technical details on how they operate, someone here might be able to interpret it. APSA Please, don tell me ask your sysop because they just deny the APSA possibility to use other email programs then the ones they chose. We'd never say that! G -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: [problems (IMAP, secure pop3, certificates, etc.)/help needed]
Hello Dierk, DH Version 2 is said to have complete IMAP support. I too fell victim to spending hours trying to figure out why my newly installed stunnnel and openssl programs and libraries were not working with TheBat. They don't work with Eudora either. But, they work just fine with Outlook. I scanned the TB mailing list and found someone else mentioning that openssl changed the protocol negotiation slightly and broke how TB works for pop3s. I'm now trying to apply a work-around. Does version 2 have any anticipated release date? Hopefully soon? I keep hearing of people reporting problems and shortcomings with this version and that version that are supposedly fixed in version 2, but I don't believe I've heard any official word from RITLabs about what new features / bug fixes are in version 2 and when they believe they'll have either the beta or final product ready. Does anyone have a list of features/bugs and a preliminary (subject to change) release date for an alpha, beta, or final product? Thanks for passing it along :) --James Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Secure POP3 FAQ needed
On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 at 8:36 PM Peter Palmreuther wrote: | |KG have also heard that one can create his own certificate using OpenSSL. | |You will not need to build a certificate. |You'll only need the public part of servers key to have imported into your |address book into 'Trusted Root CA' part. | |If your University does not offer to download the public key you can 'work |around' this. | |Fetch OpenSSL compiled for Win32 from |http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/beta/openssl.rar |Unrar it and open a command line shell (command.com or cmd.exe). | |Use this command from openssl-directory you extracted the content from |RAR-archive to to connect to the server: | |openssl s_client -connect Mail-Server:Port -showcerts | |Port is usually 995 for POP3-over-SSL, Mail-Server you really should |know best :-) | |Some stuff appears on screen. Then .. suddenly there's a line starting: | |-BEGIN CERTIFICATE- | |From _this line_, including it, until | |-END CERTIFICATE- | |also _including_, copy the whole block and save it with the help of |Notepad, or any text editor of your choice, to a new text file. |Call it to you preferences, but I'd suggest you make it's extension to |'.pem' | |Now open up your TB!'s AB and go to 'Trusted Root CA'. |Create a new contact, enter informations to your like. |Enter the 'Certificates' tab and 'Import' the file you've just created. |Save this new 'contact'. | |Enter the server settings of your mail account belonging to this server. |At 'Transport' section change it to use 'Secure to dedicated port (TLS)'. | |You should be done. If not: copy the error message from log file |(Ctrl+Shift+A) and paste it here so we maybe can give further hints. | |KG Maybe they could even post an FAQ sheet? | |Not yet :-) I'll need some _spare_ time for that :-))) = Might it be possible to incorporate this behavior into TB, so that when it discovers a secure server; it gets the certificate, displays it and prompts me if I want to save the certificate? While the above works, it does seem like a lot to ask an end-user to do, especially when other [inferior] email clients do it as I suggested. Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Secure POP3 FAQ needed
Hi: I would like to connect to my university's secure POP3 server via SSL but have no clue how to create my own certificate, how to import the server's certificate and what the deal with the Intermediate Root CA and Trusted Root CA directories is. I am aware that it is possible to purchase a private certificate from companies like VeriSign, but have also heard that one can create his own certificate using OpenSSL. Maybe somebody like Mr. Palmreuther or Mr. Pearlstone who seem to be very knowledgable about stuff like that could answer these, I suppose, basic questions and provide some specific instructions. Maybe they could even post an FAQ sheet? Thanks, Kai -- Windows XP Pro TB 1.60 Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Secure POP3 FAQ needed
Hello Kai, On Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 10:28:18 AM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): KG have also heard that one can create his own certificate using OpenSSL. You will not need to build a certificate. You'll only need the public part of servers key to have imported into your address book into 'Trusted Root CA' part. If your University does not offer to download the public key you can 'work around' this. Fetch OpenSSL compiled for Win32 from http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/beta/openssl.rar Unrar it and open a command line shell (command.com or cmd.exe). Use this command from openssl-directory you extracted the content from RAR-archive to to connect to the server: openssl s_client -connect Mail-Server:Port -showcerts Port is usually 995 for POP3-over-SSL, Mail-Server you really should know best :-) Some stuff appears on screen. Then .. suddenly there's a line starting: -BEGIN CERTIFICATE- From _this line_, including it, until -END CERTIFICATE- also _including_, copy the whole block and save it with the help of Notepad, or any text editor of your choice, to a new text file. Call it to you preferences, but I'd suggest you make it's extension to '.pem' Now open up your TB!'s AB and go to 'Trusted Root CA'. Create a new contact, enter informations to your like. Enter the 'Certificates' tab and 'Import' the file you've just created. Save this new 'contact'. Enter the server settings of your mail account belonging to this server. At 'Transport' section change it to use 'Secure to dedicated port (TLS)'. You should be done. If not: copy the error message from log file (Ctrl+Shift+A) and paste it here so we maybe can give further hints. KG Maybe they could even post an FAQ sheet? Not yet :-) I'll need some _spare_ time for that :-))) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) --- There Can Be Only One --- Current Ver: 1.60 / 1.60a FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Secure POP3 ?
Hello Alexander, On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:22:45 -0800 GMT (11/12/2001, 06:22 +0800 GMT), Alexander Jason wrote: AJ I'm new to the list so please forgive me if this has been discussed . . .. I think not, but not many people have seen your request, because it came as a reply to Re: Problem with URLS in AOL email. Check out the threading facility in TB by hitting alt-1. Hit crtl-* to open all threads. See your message hanging under the one you replied to. ;-) Switch back to non-threaded mode by hitting alt-0 (zero). See also View / View Threads by ... for more choices. Best is to start a new enquiry by using the new message feature in TB. AJ Is SECURE POP3 possible with TB -- or will it SOON be possible? My mail server has been AJ switched to ATTBI and it requires Secure POP3. AJ How is it that Outlook and many other mail clients have this and we don't . . . We do. Check out Account / Properties / Transport / Mail Retrieval / Authentication. Now which kind of secure does your POP server require? ;-) On a side remark: Shouldn't this be Authentification? ^^ -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Everybody repeat after me.We are all individuals. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.54/10 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Secure POP3 ?
Hello Thomas, On 11 Dec 2001 at 14:18:00 you wrote (at least in part): TF On a side remark: Shouldn't this be Authentification? No. I had problems learning this by myself, but it is Authentication :-) (I guess you're used to the German word 'Authentifizierung' but as I had to check by myself the 'fi' is not contained in the English version :-))). Don't ask how many times I stumbled over this in different RFC's I read *ggg*) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/15 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Anyone who hates Dogs and Kids Can't be All Bad. -- W. C. Fields -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Secure POP3 ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Peter! On 11 Dec 2001 at 16:39:17 you wrote: (I guess you're used to the German word 'Authentifizierung' but as I had to check by myself the 'fi' is not contained in the English version :-))). This, BTW, is a very interesting example for the different histories of language - especially ones connected as closely as German and English. Due to the different vowel shifts in Germany and England the Latin cat from authenticat- the resulting words had to be changed to pronounceable. In English it essentially stayed Latin, in German cat became (t)zi, which needed a buffer. Caveat: This is only the abridged version; a comparative linguist with German as his main subject may have to say some more about it. - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/14 on Windows 95 4.0 67306684 C When you say, I love you, mean it. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBPBYedPTo1oA8g8dLEQKaLwCcC+qlBODF7BiYvVsUIw8XdEd6HigAnio2 EBS41htI57gRSmJ9GorUb8ck =LHas -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Secure POP3 ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas! On 11 Dec 2001 at 14:18:00 you wrote: On a side remark: Shouldn't this be Authentification? Not according to Longman's DCE the OED - there is no such word. It goes back to the plural stem of the Latin authenticare. - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/14 on Windows 95 4.0 67306684 C The graveyards are full of people who rushed in bravely but unwisely. (Terry Pratchett) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBPBYO6/To1oA8g8dLEQKcQgCg1hjyzJee+qzFBQRxChO+IwB0eYUAnjum hKhSPVq7UAiScdTicouA6vPT =2QR1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Secure POP3 ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 21:18:00 +0800GMT (which was 14:18 +0100GMT where I live), Thomas F thought about Secure POP3 ? and wrote: AJ I'm new to the list so please forgive me if this has been discussed . . .. TF I think not, but not many people have seen your request, because it TF came as a reply to Re: Problem with URLS in AOL email. Hi Thomas and Alexander, I'm one of them. I wouldn't have seen the mail as I'm not interested in AOL related matters... Secure POP3 is another matter. I'm really interested in that although I cannot contribute anything, being a learner myself... ;-) - -- Cheers Peter . -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: GnuPG for better authentication. Key-ID: 0xE10774CE iD8DBQE8FjtIAzZSBuEHdM4RAsqkAJ9a5VQKI5gUeHm7g8gLeSHKiqHvsQCgm/Ab oOrtfcMluk+f+cCG1GLjfXo= =K+/Y -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Secure POP3 ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Alexander! On 11 Dec 2001 at 18:41:20 you wrote: I'm new to the list so please forgive me if this has been discussed I you always ask for forgiveness, did it ever come to mind that there is an archive to search? Is SECURE POP3 possible with TB -- or will it SOON be possible? My mail server has been switched to ATTBI and it requires Secure POP3. It was hinted that SSL is planned. How is it that Outlook and many other mail clients have this and we don't . . . Because this isn't Outlook? How is it that TB! is safe from malware attacks and others aren't? - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/14 on Windows 95 4.0 67306684 C Sonar no cuesta nada (Träumen kostet nichts.). -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBPBY/lvTo1oA8g8dLEQL7pQCeJFxkPJWLYTB6689MS77pdqRc+n8AoKvc X+8uBmi2BnXsL+3sEkZo77ns =1nHY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Secure POP3 ?
Hi Dierk, Yes, it did occur to me to search the archive. Alex Jason Tuesday, December 11, 2001, 10:17:09, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Alexander! On 11 Dec 2001 at 18:41:20 you wrote: I'm new to the list so please forgive me if this has been discussed I you always ask for forgiveness, did it ever come to mind that there is an archive to search? Is SECURE POP3 possible with TB -- or will it SOON be possible? My mail server has been switched to ATTBI and it requires Secure POP3. It was hinted that SSL is planned. How is it that Outlook and many other mail clients have this and we don't . . . Because this isn't Outlook? How is it that TB! is safe from malware attacks and others aren't? - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/14 on Windows 95 4.0 67306684 C Sonar no cuesta nada (Träumen kostet nichts.). -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBPBY/lvTo1oA8g8dLEQL7pQCeJFxkPJWLYTB6689MS77pdqRc+n8AoKvc X+8uBmi2BnXsL+3sEkZo77ns =1nHY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Secure POP3 ?
Hi Alexander, On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:41:20 -0800GMT (12/12/2001, 01:41 +0800GMT), Alexander Jason wrote: AJ NOTE: TB (v153d) does NOT have this type of common authentication. AJ Here is a reply from Stefan: We are working on it right now. Before we get it implemented, you can use the program STunnel (www.STunnel.org) together with The Bat!.. OK, so you are looking for SSL authentication. This has been on the wishlist, and as Stefan confirmed to you, is being worked on. IIRC correctly, this is one of the features that should be ready by the end of this year, but don't quote me on this. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53t under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Secure POP3 ?
Hi Dierk, On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 15:49:18 +0100GMT (11/12/2001, 22:49 +0800GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: On a side remark: Shouldn't this be Authentification? DH Not according to Longman's DCE the OED - there is no such word. It DH goes back to the plural stem of the Latin authenticare. I would have thought it is authentus, a, um + facere. (BTW since when do Latin words have th? Wouldn't this be a Greek word?). BTW I'm just guessing. f'up2tbot. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53t under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Secure POP3 ?
Hi Peter, On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:39:17 +0100GMT (11/12/2001, 23:39 +0800GMT), Peter Palmreuther wrote: PP No. I had problems learning this by myself, but it is PP Authentication :-) PP (I guess you're used to the German word 'Authentifizierung' Yes. ;-) This is what my last English teacher used to call false friends. They betray you in translations, as you think you know this word - but beware. PP but as I had to check by myself the 'fi' is not contained in the PP English version :-))). I didn't actually look it up. Shame on me! ;-) f'up2tbot. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53t under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Secure POP3 ?
I'm new to the list so please forgive me if this has been discussed . . .. Is SECURE POP3 possible with TB -- or will it SOON be possible? My mail server has been switched to ATTBI and it requires Secure POP3. How is it that Outlook and many other mail clients have this and we don't . . . Alex Jason -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Secure POP3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello TBUDL! I just want to know if I'm to stupid to find it: Is there an option to make your POP3 connection a secure SSL one? My mail provider will support this in a few days and I'd like to use it, so if it is not an option with TB!, please could we make it? - -- Using The Bat! 1.44 under Windows 95 4.0 Build 1212 C Dierk Haasis It is better to be both right and consistent. But if you have to choose - - you must choose to be right. (Winston Churchill) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOTpjy/To1oA8g8dLEQJ3SQCdFXSUvbrN4nBNrOXA9L99nZ9D8dMAoJO4 m7eTGr09vnZyy8OpF8MbgpTR =nqwM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Secure POP3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, June 04, 2000, 8:12:27 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote: DH I just want to know if I'm to stupid to find it: Is there an option DH to make your POP3 connection a secure SSL one? My mail provider DH will support this in a few days and I'd like to use it, so if it is DH not an option with TB!, please could we make it? I like the idea and would like to know more about this feature. To date, I've only ever heard the two terms... POP3 and SSL... used in conjunction with one another, was on Linux discussions... which I immediately turned away from, because I feel that using Linux is like taking a few giant steps backwards. That is not to be confused however, with my wish for a better alternative to MS Windows... it's just that Linux isn't it. :o) Anyway, getting back to your subject... all I can find relating to secure connections, is at Account/Properties/Transport... where there is the following checkbox: [] Encrypted logon (APOP/MD5) It's probably not the same thing, is it. Nick -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.3 Comment: Join PGP-Basics at http://www.egroups.com/group/PGP-Basics iQA/AwUBOTqf4MUChHR7o/3OEQJh0gCePobV2ee8paqcmm1ocLL8m18eLLwAoMAT RxGxAe6CobQZqyfiQnYqb8Ga =3Mfb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Secure POP3
Servus Jast, Am 04.06.2000 so gegen 20:39 meintest Du: Nope. With APOP your password is encrypted when you log on. SSL encrypts the actual data during transfer. Bat doesn't support this. Now sure, GMX cannot provide a shell for every of it's customers, but if you need encrypted transmission of your eMails from your POP3 box to your client, you'd also consider a SSH tunnel. You've got the choice between both, and personally I prefer SSH with port forwarding because the program doesnt need to support it... Just my 0,02c Cheers, Johannesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Fehler sind erzielte Ergebnisse, die nicht den erwarteten Ergebnissen entsprechen. Fehler sind die Quelle der Kreativität! -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Secure POP3
Hallo Dierk, Sunday, June 04, 2000, 5:12:27 PM, you wrote: DH I just want to know if I'm to stupid to find it: Is there an option DH to make your POP3 connection a secure SSL one? My mail provider DH will support this in a few days and I'd like to use it, so if it is DH not an option with TB!, please could we make it? I suggested such a feature just a week or so ago to "The Bat! - Suggestions". The reply I got from Stefan Tanurkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] (RIT Research Labs), was: MH The feature is miss most, since replacing Outlook Express with The MH Bat, is the capability to use the POP-Protokol over SSL, since the MH German mail service provider WEB.DE uses this feature. We are going to implement it soon. Please stay tuned. -- Best regards, -- Michael Hurler --- Michael Hurler e-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The future of digital systems is complexity, and complexity is the worst enemy of security. --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Secure POP3
On Sun, 4 Jun 2000 11:28:54 -0700, Nick Andriash wrote: NA That is not to be confused however, with my wish for a better NA alternative to MS Windows... it's just that Linux isn't it. :o) I like that. I feel exactly the same way about Linux. It's a poor desktop solution at this time. -- Allie Martin[ TB! v1.44 | Win2k Pro ] PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=GetAlliePGPKey "Xerox never comes up with anything original anymore. " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Secure POP3
JMP Now sure, GMX cannot provide a shell for every of it's customers, but JMP if you need encrypted transmission of your eMails from your POP3 box JMP to your client, you'd also consider a SSH tunnel. You've got the JMP choice between both, and personally I prefer SSH with port forwarding JMP because the program doesnt need to support it... Just my 0,02c Speaking of which, does anyone know of any (Windows or Linux) proxies for SSL and have any easy configuration steps? I want this for work mostly so I can get news from a secure news server (and only Netscape and Outlook implement the snews protocol it seems, so it leads me to believe that it's SSL), but it might be handy in a general sense also... If such a thing exists, wouldn't SSL with port forwarding do the same thing as SSH? thx- -tom! -- Hopin' this said *something* useful, [EMAIL PROTECTED] out. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Secure POP3
Hello Nick Andriash, On Sun, 4 Jun 2000 11:28:54 -0700 GMT your local time, which was Monday, June 05, 2000, 1:28:54 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Nick Andriash wrote: On Sunday, June 04, 2000, 8:12:27 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote: DH I just want to know if I'm to stupid to find it: Is there an option DH to make your POP3 connection a secure SSL one? My mail provider DH will support this in a few days and I'd like to use it, so if it is DH not an option with TB!, please could we make it? DESCRIPTION The stunnel program is designed to work as SSL encryption wrapper between remote client and local (inetd-startable) or remote server. The concept is that having non-SSL aware daemons running on your system you can easily setup them to communicate with clients over secure SSL channel. stunnel can be used to add SSL functionality to commonly used inetd daemons like POP-2, POP-3 and IMAP servers as well as to standalone daemons like NNTP, SMTP and HTTP without changes to the source code. This product includes cryptographic software written by Eric Young ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Anyway, the package also has the required dll's you need to be able to run anything like this. Note that they are or seem to be restricted to USA use only... How to implement it on the client, no idea. Best regards, tracer -- Using theBAT 1.44 with Windows 98 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using FireTalk: 321338 ICQ: on request Website: www.phuketcomputers.com Our special website hosting/mailservers are now operational -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
