Thanks!

2016-10-12 Thread Mike Greenbaum
Thanks very much to Thomas Fernandez and MFPA for the responses to my question 
about moving TB! and for their suggestions.

I'm doing this as a new email since I always seem to reply to people 
incorrectly and get chastised for it.:)


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Invalid HTML ! Please forward this message to developers. Thanks.

2012-02-22 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Greetings,

I have received several of these (string in subject line)
over the past few months and assumed it was an Apple problem
simply because Apple was the sender. It wasn't until I
searched for this string on-line that I learned it was
actually being generated by TB!. If I understand what's
happening, Apple is sending me HTML messages which TB! is
having trouble displaying in HTML format. The actual body of
the message (from Apple) can be viewed by clicking on the
TEXT tab at the bottom of said message.

So, if my assumptions are correct, to whom should I forward
these?

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Always sending us-ascii (was: Thanks for MicroEd's Unicode ability)

2009-02-28 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MFPA,

On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 00:53:36 + GMT (28/Feb/09, 7:53 +0700 GMT),
MFPA wrote:

 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

M However, my outgoing messages for this account are
M sent using a local SMTP server and the copy in the
M sent list of that app also says

 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

M Surely that suggests it's not my machine that is
M changing it?

 In that case, it looks like your SMTP server does that.
 I would find that strange.


M I will give up trying to work out what happened to the character set
M of mid:1496799133.20090225192...@my_localhost because I cannot
M work out how to reproduce it consistently.

Yes, you can. Read on.

M My  mid:747229546.20090226183...@my_localhost came
M back via the list still in utf-8

No:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

M but
M mid:1854458029.20090226185...@my_localhost came back changed to
M us-ascii.

It's consistent. Your messages all arrive as us-ascii over here.

M mid:908317301.20090227222...@my_localhost in my sentbox has
M charset=iso-8859-15
M but the copy I received via the list has
M charset=us-ascii

As I said, it's consistent. Points to your SMTP server, I'd say.

M I am going a bit off-topic for the thread.

I have adjusted the thread. You are not off-topic for the list.

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Re: Always sending us-ascii (was: Thanks for MicroEd's Unicode ability)

2009-02-28 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Saturday 28 February 2009 at 1:52:08 PM, in
mid:8710485007.20090228205...@thomas-bkk.my-fqdn.de, Thomas
Fernandez wrote:



M came back via the list still in utf-8

 No:

 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

M but mid:1854458029.20090226185...@my_localhost came
M back changed to us-ascii.

 It's consistent. Your messages all arrive as us-ascii
 over here.

I never really took much notice before. That is weird because they are
sent in Latin 9, or in the same as the message they are in reply to
(if available).

M mid:908317301.20090227222...@my_localhost in my
M sentbox has charset=iso-8859-15 but the copy I
M received via the list has charset=us-ascii

 As I said, it's consistent. Points to your SMTP server,
 I'd say.

Odd, because if I send to myself, the character set does not change
(and the message is actually sent out and delivered via a POP server).

Still, I'll try sending via Yahoo's server. This message leaves me
with a character set of latin 9 (iso-8859-15).

M I am going a bit off-topic for the thread.

 I have adjusted the thread. You are not off-topic for
 the list.

(-;



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Re: Thanks for MicroEd's Unicode ability

2009-02-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MFPA,

On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:57:29 + GMT (27/Feb/09, 1:57 +0700 GMT),
MFPA wrote:


M Just noticed something odd about the character sets of my messages.
M When composing mid:1496799133.20090225192...@my_localhost the bottom
M of my editor window that it was Unicode (UTF-8). The headers from the
M copy in my Sent box say


 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

M but the copy I received back from TBUDL has

 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Must be your machine, not the list server. It works fine for Dwight
and me, and we outnumber you. Please check whether you have set
charset override set anywhere.

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Re: Thanks for MicroEd's Unicode ability

2009-02-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Eddie,

On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:00:26 +0200 GMT (26/Feb/09, 20:00 +0700 GMT),
Eddie Castelli wrote:

 No, it's Arabic for Thank you.

شوكرﴼ

TF I think I got the correct word isolated above. The cursor goes
TF left-to-write but internally deletes right-to-left.

EC No you didn't. see below. A friend wrote it for me. IShe said
EC something like you had a character to much.

شوكرﴼ
ECشكرا

OK, I have one o too many. This is the problem with Arabic,
sometimes the vowels are written, sometimes not. However, your last
letter (the left-most one) looks wrong to me. The two little lines
over the alif are missing, so it's shokra instead of shokran. Please
ask her again.

TF ขอบคุฌครับ!

 The last line is Thai. All three - English, Arabic, Thai - display
 correctly in my PTV. Provided that my Arabic spelling is correct,
 though. (My Thai spelling is indeed correct.)

EC I see very well Arabic and Thai. English? How does this look like?

You are right. I mean of course Latin script. But then, with English
spelling. ;-)

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Re: Thanks for MicroEd's Unicode ability

2009-02-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Dwight,

On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:23:19 -0600 GMT (26/Feb/09, 7:23 +0700 GMT),
Dwight Corrin wrote:


DC On Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 10:42:06 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

شوكرﴼ

TF ขอบคุฌครับ!

DC come out fine in reply here

Your reply is also looking good here, and in UTF-8.

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Re: Thanks for MicroEd's Unicode ability

2009-02-27 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Friday 27 February 2009 at 2:39:24 PM, in
mid:925553828.20090227213...@thomas-bkk.my-fqdn.de, Thomas Fernandez
wrote:


 Hello MFPA,

 On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:57:29 + GMT (27/Feb/09, 1:57
 +0700 GMT), MFPA wrote:

M Just noticed something odd about the character sets
M of my messages. When composing
M mid:1496799133.20090225192...@my_localhost the
M bottom of my editor window that it was Unicode
M (UTF-8). The headers from the copy in my Sent box say

 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

M but the copy I received back from TBUDL has

 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

 Must be your machine, not the list server. It works
 fine for Dwight and me, and we outnumber you. Please
 check whether you have set charset override set
 anywhere.


No idea where to look for that. However, my outgoing messages for this
account are sent using a local SMTP server and the copy in the sent
list of that app also says


 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Surely that suggests it's not my machine that is changing it?


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Re: Thanks for MicroEd's Unicode ability

2009-02-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MFPA,

On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 22:27:33 + GMT (28/Feb/09, 5:27 +0700 GMT),
MFPA wrote:

 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

 Must be your machine, not the list server. It works
 fine for Dwight and me, and we outnumber you. Please
 check whether you have set charset override set
 anywhere.


M No idea where to look for that.


Options / Preferences / Viewe/Editor / Profiles

I don't know whether it would actually override trhe charset, though.

M However, my outgoing messages for this account are sent using a
M local SMTP server and the copy in the sent list of that app also
M says


 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

M Surely that suggests it's not my machine that is changing it?

In that case, it looks like your SMTP server does that. I would find
that strange.

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Re: Thanks for MicroEd's Unicode ability

2009-02-27 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Friday 27 February 2009 at 10:42:35 PM, in
mid:905215704.20090228054...@thomas-bkk.my-fqdn.de, Thomas Fernandez
wrote:



 Options / Preferences / Viewe/Editor / Profiles

I have none of the boxes ticked there.

[...]

 In that case, it looks like your SMTP server does that.
 I would find that strange.

It would be.

I tried sending the message to myself and the character set did not
change.

I wonder what will happen if I send one to the list and cc myself.

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Re: Thanks for MicroEd's Unicode ability

2009-02-27 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Friday 27 February 2009 at 10:42:35 PM, in
mid:905215704.20090228054...@thomas-bkk.my-fqdn.de, Thomas Fernandez
wrote:


 Hello MFPA,

 On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 22:27:33 + GMT (28/Feb/09, 5:27
 +0700 GMT), MFPA wrote:

 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

 Must be your machine, not the list server. It works
 fine for Dwight and me, and we outnumber you. Please
 check whether you have set charset override set
 anywhere.

M No idea where to look for that.

 Options / Preferences / Viewe/Editor / Profiles

 I don't know whether it would actually override trhe
 charset, though.

M However, my outgoing messages for this account are
M sent using a local SMTP server and the copy in the
M sent list of that app also says

 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

M Surely that suggests it's not my machine that is
M changing it?

 In that case, it looks like your SMTP server does that.
 I would find that strange.


I will give up trying to work out what happened to the character set
of mid:1496799133.20090225192...@my_localhost because I cannot
work out how to reproduce it consistently.

My  mid:747229546.20090226183...@my_localhost came
back via the list still in utf-8 but
mid:1854458029.20090226185...@my_localhost came back changed to
us-ascii.



mid:908317301.20090227222...@my_localhost in my sentbox has
charset=iso-8859-15
but the copy I received via the list has
charset=us-ascii

I am going a bit off-topic for the thread.
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Re: Thanks for MicroEd's Unicode ability

2009-02-26 Thread Eddie Castelli
Dear Thomas,

 --- Thomas Fernandez / Mittwoch 25.02.2009, 18:42:06
Thanks for MicroEd's Unicode ability


 Hello list,

 I am redirecting this from TBOT to TBUDL, because it's on-topic. I
 just played around with MicroEd, which is Unicode-capable. The thread
 on TBOT was about Thank you in different languages. I added Arabic
 and Thai.

 Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 10:58:10 PM, I wrote:

 [...]
 No, it's Arabic for Thank you.

شوكرﴼ

TF I think I got the correct word isolated above. The cursor goes
TF left-to-write but internally deletes right-to-left.

No you didn't. see below. A friend wrote it for me. IShe said
something like you had a character to much.

شوكرﴼ
   شكرا


TF Hey everybody, do you see Arabic writing? Can somebody give me
TF Stefan's email address, he coded the editor and I'm on a new
TF computer and don't have his address in the history. I love
TF Unicode, because you can mix scripts at will.

TF ขอบคุฌครับ!

 The last line is Thai. All three - English, Arabic, Thai - display
 correctly in my PTV. Provided that my Arabic spelling is correct,
 though. (My Thai spelling is indeed correct.)

I see very well Arabic and Thai. English? How does this look like?


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Re: Thanks for MicroEd's Unicode ability

2009-02-26 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Wednesday 25 February 2009 at 10:12:51 PM, in
mid:1565691459.20090226051...@thomas-bkk.my-fqdn.de, Thomas
Fernandez wrote:


 The problem may have to do with the fonts chosen in
 your editor.


Courier New


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Re: Thanks for MicroEd's Unicode ability

2009-02-26 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Thursday 26 February 2009 at 6:31:48 PM, in
mid:747229546.20090226183...@my_localhost, MFPA wrote:


 Hi

 On Wednesday 25 February 2009 at 10:12:51 PM, in
 mid:1565691459.20090226051...@thomas-bkk.my-fqdn.de,
 Thomas Fernandez wrote:

 The problem may have to do with the fonts chosen in
 your editor.

 Courier New


Just noticed something odd about the character sets of my messages.
When composing mid:1496799133.20090225192...@my_localhost the bottom
of my editor window that it was Unicode (UTF-8). The headers from the
copy in my Sent box say


 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

but the copy I received back from TBUDL has

 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit



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Thanks for MicroEd's Unicode ability

2009-02-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello list,

I am redirecting this from TBOT to TBUDL, because it's on-topic. I
just played around with MicroEd, which is Unicode-capable. The thread
on TBOT was about Thank you in different languages. I added Arabic
and Thai.

Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 10:58:10 PM, I wrote:

[...]
 No, it's Arabic for Thank you.

شوكرﴼ

TF I think I got the correct word isolated above. The cursor goes
TF left-to-write but internally deletes right-to-left.

TF Hey everybody, do you see Arabic writing? Can somebody give me
TF Stefan's email address, he coded the editor and I'm on a new computer
TF and don't have his address in the history. I love Unicode, because you
TF can mix scripts at will.

TF ขอบคุฌครับ!

The last line is Thai. All three - English, Arabic, Thai - display
correctly in my PTV. Provided that my Arabic spelling is correct,
though. (My Thai spelling is indeed correct.)

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Re: Thanks for MicroEd's Unicode ability

2009-02-25 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Wednesday 25 February 2009 at 4:42:06 PM, in
mid:625586198.20090225234...@thomas-bkk.my-fqdn.de, Thomas Fernandez
wrote:



 Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 10:58:10 PM, I wrote:

 [...]
 No, it's Arabic for Thank you.

?

When reading the message you posted, I saw what looked like Arabic
writing. In this reply, I see question marks.

[...]

TF ??!

 The last line is Thai.

The Thai shows in the incoming message here as a line of squares but
is converted to a line of question marks when I reply.


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Re: Thanks for MicroEd's Unicode ability

2009-02-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MFPA,

On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:27:22 + GMT (26/Feb/09, 2:27 +0700 GMT),
MFPA wrote:

 No, it's Arabic for Thank you.

?

M When reading the message you posted, I saw what looked like Arabic
M writing. In this reply, I see question marks.

Over here, when I reply to my message, it still shows as Arabic.

M [...]

TF ??!

 The last line is Thai.

M The Thai shows in the incoming message here as a line of squares but
M is converted to a line of question marks when I reply.

I still see it in Thai when I reply to that message.

The problem may have to do with the fonts chosen in your editor.

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Re: Thanks for MicroEd's Unicode ability

2009-02-25 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 10:42:06 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

شوكرﴼ

TF I think I got the correct word isolated above. The cursor goes
TF left-to-write but internally deletes right-to-left.

TF Hey everybody, do you see Arabic writing? Can somebody give me
TF Stefan's email address, he coded the editor and I'm on a new computer
TF and don't have his address in the history. I love Unicode, because you
TF can mix scripts at will.

TF ขอบคุฌครับ!


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4.1.5: Thanks and more

2008-12-23 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hi,

first a thanks for finally crushing my pet bug [the one where I had to
change focus of a folder before I could empty it]. At least for now it
seems to be gone.

Unfortunately I have to say that RITLabs' ordering process is more of
an obstacle than an asset. It got worse when element5/Digital River
redirected me to PayPal, where I got presented with an error message.
The service provider for RITLab's payments has trouble with Opera -
even when the browser masks as IE I couldn't throw my hard-earned
money into the gaping gullet.

Make it easy for people to buy your program!



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Thanks for the suggestions...

2008-02-29 Thread Teresa Eckford
I've narrowed it down to something specific to my computer settings. I can send 
mail using the webmail site for my ISP. And now ALL the email software on my 
computer is having problems sending, though Thunderbird seems able to deal with 
my gmail account with no problem.

I'm thinking somehow some settings have been changed somewhere, though I've 
done nothing. Am considering uninstalling and reinstalling The Bat! as I really 
prefer it to any other email software I've used. And hope that a reinstall 
helps.

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Re: Thanks for the suggestions...

2008-02-29 Thread Rick Grunwald
 I've narrowed it down to something specific to my computer
 settings. I can send mail using the webmail site for my ISP. And now
 ALL the email software on my computer is having problems sending,
 though Thunderbird seems able to deal with my gmail account with no problem.

 I'm thinking somehow some settings have been changed somewhere,
 though I've done nothing. Am considering uninstalling and
 reinstalling The Bat! as I really prefer it to any other email
 software I've used. And hope that a reinstall helps.

double check the settings with some of us on the list - a lot easier
than reinstalling and that might not fix it.

You mentioned Gmail sending ... are you set to (under mail transport)
smtp.gmail.com, secure to dedicated port (TLS) and that port is 465?
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Re: Replying Messages that come to different accounts, from different accounts and a note of thanks to Mr Robin Anson

2007-11-05 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MFPA,

On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:39:50 + GMT (05/11/2007, 01:39 +0700 GMT),
MFPA wrote:

 All messages are sorted into folders in an archive account
 depending on certain conditions.

M That sounds very neat. I have been thinking of simplifying my
M set-up along similar lines but I also struggle for a simple and
M reliable way to automate which account and what email address I am
M sending/replying from.

That's easy with my setup: I reply from the account the message was
originally sent to. ;-)

 What I do is add an X-Apparently-To: header showing the account
 it originally came in on.

M Do you use an external application to add that, or can the
M %addheader macro be used?

I use an external application called Hamster. They created a special
beta-version for me. Since I paid for it (Hamster is freeware, so I
donated), I am pretty sure I can pass it on, but I will ask them
first.

 ...

 Ensure with a macro that the message is sent from the correct
 account. That's what the %Account= macro is for. I can send my
 regex-based macro to you (preferrably via this list, as members on
 this list helped me creat it), it is based on the X-Apparently-To:
 header.

 ...

 I'll be happy to send my Reply Template.

M They could both be potentially useful.

Here it is:

 ===

%Account='%-
%SetPattRegExp=(?m-s)^X-Apparently-To:\s(.*/?)@example.co.th%-
%RegExpBlindMatch=%Headers%-
%SubPatt=1%-
'%-
Hello %OFromFName,

%Cursor

%QInclude=CompanySig

%ODateEn, %OTimeLongEn, you wrote:

%Quotes

 

Be aware that this creates a top-posting, which is desired in my
company environment but not on mailing lists.
 
msl is there a way to ... get the REPLY-TO field automatically
msl configured to indicate the account email id from which the
msl message is sent out?

M Would something like %setheader(reply-to, %hdrfrom) achieve
M this? (I have not tested)

That won't change the account it is sent from. The SMTP server will
most likely reject it.

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Re: Replying Messages that come to different accounts, from different accounts and a note of thanks to Mr Robin Anson

2007-11-05 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Vernon,

You sent this to me by PM, with a CC copy to the list. I received it
only by PM and wonder why it didn't make it to the list. Maybe it will
come in later.

Monday, November 5, 2007, 12:08:17 PM, you wrote:

msl Hi Mr Thomas,

[snipped full-quote]

msl +++


msl Yours is well noted and thank you for same. Do you mean to say that if
msl a message comes to account A and when I hit 'reply' that i could even
msl send out the message from account B with account B settings instead of
msl account A settings?

Yes. You can switch the account from which it is sent manually by
going to Options / Active Account.

If you want to automate it, you need to add the X-Apparently-To:
header to incoming messages and use the reply template I just sent to
MFPA on the list. Then it will be sent from the account it was
originally received by.

msl for example, accounts A,B,C  D have different account settings
msl such as SMTP/POP.

Both methods fully switch to Account B with all its settings.

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Re: Replying Messages that come to different accounts, from different accounts and a note of thanks to Mr Robin Anson

2007-11-04 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Vernon,

On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 11:30:30 +0530 GMT (01/11/2007, 13:00 +0700 GMT),
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

msl My next issue is that I have 4 accounts (A,B,C,D) and account A has
msl all the folders (names 1 to 20). The other remaining accounts do not
msl have folders, but all accounts run under a common filter/folders which
msl was configured with the assistance of Mr. Roelof.

You have the same set-up as I do in the office. All messages are
sorted into folders in an archive account depending on certain
conditions. It's the countries were they came from, in my case.

msl so for instance if i receive a message under account A and folder 1,
msl the message is filtered in perfectly and so on it continues.

msl Now, if i need to take the message which arrived under account A/folder
msl 1 and send a reply under account B, the REPLY-TO: header field still
msl shows account A email id. so in order to circumvent this situation, I
msl drag/drop the message in account A/folder 1 to account B inbox, click
msl on this message and hit reply and send.

That's complicated. What I do is add an X-Apparently-To: header
showing the account it originally came in on.

msl Now under this process, the REPLY-TO: field indicates account B
msl email id. Once this message is sent, out message is filtered and
msl transferred to folder 1/account A which is ok, but i have to
msl manually drag/drop the message which is brought into the inbox of
msl account B, into account A/folder 1 or run a 're-filter' to get
msl this job done.

Easier: Ensure with a macro that the message is sent from the correct
account. That's what the %Account= macro is for. I can send my
regex-based macro to you (preferrably via this list, as members on
this list helped me creat it), it is based on the X-Apparently-To:
header. Then BCC to yourself, and your message (coming back) is
filtered into the correct folder in the archive account. No manual
labour like drag-and-drop is involved. TB! just does everything
automagically.

For example, I receive a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from Germany. It
will be sorted into the Germany folder in the archive account. I hit
Reply in the archive account, the reply is sent from the Sales
account. The same holds true for the Management account, the
Accounting account, etc.

I'll be happy to send my Reply Template.

msl is there a way to overcome this situation and get the REPLY-TO field
msl automatically configured to indicate the account email id from which
msl the message is sent out?

I don't even use Reply-To headers, as the replies should go to the
account the message was sent from.

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Re: Replying Messages that come to different accounts, from different accounts and a note of thanks to Mr Robin Anson

2007-11-04 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Sunday 4 November 2007 at 1:38:14 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas
Fernandez wrote:

 All messages are sorted into folders in an archive account
 depending on certain conditions.

That sounds very neat. I have been thinking of simplifying my
set-up along similar lines but I also struggle for a simple and
reliable way to automate which account and what email address I am
sending/replying from.

 What I do is add an X-Apparently-To: header showing the account
 it originally came in on.

Do you use an external application to add that, or can the
%addheader macro be used?

 ...

 Ensure with a macro that the message is sent from the correct
 account. That's what the %Account= macro is for. I can send my
 regex-based macro to you (preferrably via this list, as members on
 this list helped me creat it), it is based on the X-Apparently-To:
 header.

 ...

 I'll be happy to send my Reply Template.

They could both be potentially useful.

msl is there a way to ... get the REPLY-TO field automatically
msl configured to indicate the account email id from which the
msl message is sent out?

Would something like %setheader(reply-to, %hdrfrom) achieve
this? (I have not tested)

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Replying Messages that come to different accounts, from different accounts and a note of thanks to Mr Robin Anson

2007-11-04 Thread monsell
Hi Mr Thomas,

msl My next issue is that I have 4 accounts (A,B,C,D) and account A has
msl all the folders (names 1 to 20). The other remaining accounts do not
msl have folders, but all accounts run under a common filter/folders which
msl was configured with the assistance of Mr. Roelof.

You have the same set-up as I do in the office. All messages are
sorted into folders in an archive account depending on certain
conditions. It's the countries were they came from, in my case.

msl so for instance if i receive a message under account A and folder 1,
msl the message is filtered in perfectly and so on it continues.

msl Now, if i need to take the message which arrived under account A/folder
msl 1 and send a reply under account B, the REPLY-TO: header field still
msl shows account A email id. so in order to circumvent this situation, I
msl drag/drop the message in account A/folder 1 to account B inbox, click
msl on this message and hit reply and send.

That's complicated. What I do is add an X-Apparently-To: header
showing the account it originally came in on.

msl Now under this process, the REPLY-TO: field indicates account B
msl email id. Once this message is sent, out message is filtered and
msl transferred to folder 1/account A which is ok, but i have to
msl manually drag/drop the message which is brought into the inbox of
msl account B, into account A/folder 1 or run a 're-filter' to get
msl this job done.

Easier: Ensure with a macro that the message is sent from the correct
account. That's what the %Account= macro is for. I can send my
regex-based macro to you (preferrably via this list, as members on
this list helped me creat it), it is based on the X-Apparently-To:
header. Then BCC to yourself, and your message (coming back) is
filtered into the correct folder in the archive account. No manual
labour like drag-and-drop is involved. TB! just does everything
automagically.

For example, I receive a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from Germany. It
will be sorted into the Germany folder in the archive account. I hit
Reply in the archive account, the reply is sent from the Sales
account. The same holds true for the Management account, the
Accounting account, etc.

I'll be happy to send my Reply Template.

msl is there a way to overcome this situation and get the REPLY-TO field
msl automatically configured to indicate the account email id from which
msl the message is sent out?

I don't even use Reply-To headers, as the replies should go to the
account the message was sent from.


+++


Yours is well noted and thank you for same. Do you mean to say that if
a message comes to account A and when I hit 'reply' that i could even
send out the message from account B with account B settings instead of
account A settings? for example, accounts A,B,C  D have different
account settings such as SMTP/POP.

Pleased to hear from you and thank you for same in advance.

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Re: Replying Messages that come to different accounts, from different accounts and a note of thanks to Mr Robin Anson

2007-11-01 Thread Robin Anson
On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 at 11:30:30 +0530, Monsell wrote:
 is there a way to overcome this situation and get the REPLY-TO field
 automatically configured to indicate the account email id from which
 the message is sent out?

I suspect the simplest way is not to configure the REPLY-TO field at
all. It is only needed if the REPLY-TO is different to the FROM
address. If they are the same, then leave the REPLY-TO blank in each
of the account properties configurations.

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Replying Messages that come to different accounts, from different accounts and a note of thanks to Mr Robin Anson

2007-11-01 Thread monsell
On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 at 11:30:30 +0530, Monsell wrote:
 is there a way to overcome this situation and get the REPLY-TO field
 automatically configured to indicate the account email id from which
 the message is sent out?

 I suspect the simplest way is not to configure the REPLY-TO field at
 all. It is only needed if the REPLY-TO is different to the FROM
 address. If they are the same, then leave the REPLY-TO blank in each
 of the account properties configurations.

Thank you very much, Mr. Robin. It works fine, just like you had
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Replying Messages that come to different accounts, from different accounts and a note of thanks to Mr Robin Anson

2007-10-31 Thread monsell
Dear Members,

First, I would like to Thank Mr. Roelof for assisting to sort out the
filter issue. IE:- transfer filters from account to 'common filter'.
Took a little time to do this since all filters had to be transferred
manually. But the job was done and working fine.

My next issue is that I have 4 accounts (A,B,C,D) and account A has
all the folders (names 1 to 20). The other remaining accounts do not
have folders, but all accounts run under a common filter/folders which
was configured with the assistance of Mr. Roelof.

so for instance if i receive a message under account A and folder 1,
the message is filtered in perfectly and so on it continues.

Now, if i need to take the message which arrived under account A/folder
1 and send a reply under account B, the REPLY-TO: header field still
shows account A email id. so in order to circumvent this situation, I
drag/drop the message in account A/folder 1 to account B inbox, click
on this message and hit reply and send. Now under this process, the
REPLY-TO: field indicates account B email id. Once this message is
sent, out message is filtered and transferred to folder 1/account A
which is ok, but i have to manually drag/drop the message which is
brought into the inbox of account B, into account A/folder 1 or run a
're-filter' to get this job done.

is there a way to overcome this situation and get the REPLY-TO field
automatically configured to indicate the account email id from which
the message is sent out?

Thanks once more for your kind assistance.

Also I would like to take this opportunity to thank Mr. Robin Anson
who helped me out to configure the massmailing/AB issue with a macro
which works wonders for me. Thank you, Mr Robin.

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Thanks - Copying templates to several groups at once

2007-02-02 Thread Mike Greenbaum
 Do those persons appear in other groups with an empty forwarding template? 
 What happens when you address the whole group with

Roelof,

Right you are again! The person was also in another group with a different 
forwarding template. Once I changed the other filtering template, the forward 
worked correctly.

That brings up a second question. I have about 15 groups under one address book 
folder.  I'd like to have them all to have the same templates. 

Must I change each group one at a time or is there a way to make changes to all 
the groups at once?

Also, is it possible to copy all the templates from an older group to a newly 
created group, rather than having to retype each template in the new group?

I can't change the templates at the account level because there are other 
address book folders in that account which need to have different templates.

Thanks.


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Re: Thanks - Copying templates to several groups at once

2007-02-02 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Mike,

On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 08:27:46 -0700GMT (2-2-2007, 16:27 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

MG Must I change each group one at a time

Yes.

MG or is there a way to make changes to all the groups at once?

No.

MG Also, is it possible to copy all the templates from an older group
MG to a newly created group,

No.

MG rather than having to retype each template in the new group?

Well, it's not really so bad that you need to retype the full
template.
You can create quick templates (QT). These QTs can be named new1,
reply1, forward1 and for a second series of groups you call them new2,
reply2 and forward2.
Next thing is to refer in your AB templates to those QTs, just like
MFPA suggested, but then with a macro like %QInclude('New1') and that
will do the trick, that way you can correct the reply templates for
series of groups just by correcting one QT.


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Re: HTML backgrounds? - thanks!

2004-07-07 Thread Urban
Tuesday, July 6, 2004, Britt Henrikson wrote:

 You can't use html sjablones for TB.

 That's really a shame. I love to send and get mails with real letter
 papers.

The best you can do is to find an image that tiles nicely an use that
one.
If you, for example, open Outlook Express (presuming you have that
installed), you can find where the images it uses for background are by
creating a new message using a template, then go to
Format - Background - Image (I think, I am directly translating from a
Swedish OE). Or, if you're in a lazy mood, type
%CommonProgramFiles%\Microsoft Shared/Stationery/ in your
Start-menu - Run and the correct folder should open.
Remember, or write down or whatever, the file name. Then, in TB, when
you want a document background, you click the correct button, check the
Use background image, and press Load.

Hope I explained it clear enough. I'll be away from mail for a time, so
I can't answer you if you have any questions.

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Re: View modes - thanks!

2004-07-06 Thread Britt Henrikson
Hello Stuart and Andre,

 The first thing you need to do is set View - Global View Mode to (No
 View Mode) Then you can set different modes to each folder.

Thank you both so much for this info!!


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Re: Outgoing attachments are also saved in Attach folder?! - thanks!

2004-07-06 Thread Britt Henrikson
Hi again Roelof,

 Suppose you're collecting stamps and you've got a list with stamps
 you're looking for. You send that list to a friend, meanwhile you
 add stamps to your collection and delete them from your list. Some
 time later you'd like to check how many changes you've made to the
 list you sent in order to decide whether you should post a new one.
 The only way this is possible is by having a copy somewhere.

That's exactly my point: I have a copy of it *myself*, TB doesn't have
to create one for me.

 Therefore just as TB saves the messages it sent, it also saves the
 attachments it sent. Anything else wouldn't be acceptable.

Well, it *is* acceptable in other mail clients. TB is the only one
I've tried that does this.


 However there is a work around.

Thanks very much for your long and detailed explanation! I'll try the
method out when I have more time. Until then, I'll just continue to
open the Attach folder and manually delete my own attachments. At
least I know now that there isn't anywhere I can just easily turn this
function off.


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Re: Toolbar unadjustable? - thanks!

2004-07-06 Thread Britt Henrikson
Hi again Stuart,

BH Is the TB toolbar unadjustable?

 No at the present time it is not adjustable. I believe it is a future
 feature though.

Yes, I surely hope so! I would like to have it my own way.


Hi Dan,

 Right click on one of the column headings. Select: Setup View Mode
 You can can copy your settings to another folder by: TheBat! =
 Folder = Copy column Settings to

I think you must have misunderstood my question. I wasn't asking about
the folder column settings, I asked about the *toolbars*. Thanks for
your answer anyway!


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Re: HTML backgrounds? - thanks!

2004-07-06 Thread Britt Henrikson
Hallo Roelof,

 You can't use html sjablones for TB.

That's really a shame. I love to send and get mails with real letter
papers.


(Roelof to Mark:)
 BTW You're one of the few on this list who will have understood my
 garbling of languages.

Well, here is another one. I had no problem to understand!


 Of course I meant 'templates' in stead of 'sjablones' and as far as
 I know the latter isn't a proper word in any language.

Then you don't know Norwegian! ;-) Or maybe that's exactly what you
do, unconsciously - what if you were a Norwegian in your previous
life?!


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Re: Do I need the strange address books? - thanks!

2004-07-06 Thread Britt Henrikson
Hallo Charles,

 Answering another question from you: Yes, I for one like it when you
 state the real subject in the Subject: line, not something stupid
 like you see in tbbeta like: Probable bug? Classic...

I'm not aware of having asked any question about this...? Or maybe I
did that in May?

 What are Certum CA Directory, Netcenter Member Directory, Verisign,
 Intermediate CA and Trusted Root CA and why are they delivered with
 TB? I have ventured to delete them all. Are they necessary in a way
 that I'm not aware of?

 I'm not using TB! right now, but they most probably are root 
 certificates. You need them to verify if someone's certificate (which
 has been issued by one of those CA's [certificate authorities]) is valid.

Oh, sh-t... So I shouldn't have deleted them. But I suppose they can
be downloaded and installed again?


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Re: Read mails are still marked as unread - thanks!

2004-07-06 Thread Britt Henrikson
Hello Charles, Stuart and Marck,

 The message should be flagged read after the expiry time of two seconds
 (this is the default and is configurable). So if you're moving to 
 another message before those two seconds it won't get flagged.

Thanks to all three of you for your answers! I had no idea that two
seconds were such a short time, I was sure that every mail I opened
was opened for more than two seconds. Now I've tested and had the
mails open a second longer, and yes, now all the messages were marked
as read.


 If you are reading a thread, then the message above in the thread
 does not get marked as read until you have completed reading the
 thread.

Stuart, messages I open do get marked as read before I have completed
reading the whole thread. So I don't really understand your statement.
Maybe you're using another TB version than I am?


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Re: 'Paste as quotation' in HTML mails? - thanks!

2004-07-06 Thread Britt Henrikson
Hallo Roelof,

BH Why doesn't the function 'paste as quotation' work in HTML mails?

 Because it's a bug. The HTML-editor is new development in TB and has
 to be developed quite a bit.

Aha, I see... So it turned out that the two things I thought were bugs
were not, but this one is. As I said, I'm eagerly waiting for new HTML
features. Thanks for your answer!


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Re: Dictionaries and Spell Checker - thanks!

2004-07-06 Thread Britt Henrikson
Hi Roelof, thank you so much for your great help!

 TB has its own library set, you don't need to create another one.

OK.

 Every language you installed has two files, an ssceXX.tlx and an
 ssceXX2.clx file, where XX stands for the language 'am' for American
 English, 'du' for Dutch (that's an important one for me), 'go' for
 German old spelling, etc

Aha, very useful information!

BH So which dictionary should I add new words to

 To userdic,

OK.

 you don't need to insert them manually, but via the spell checker
 interface.

Yes, yes, I know that... :-D


BH and the file UserDic.TLX itself contains only the word I've added
BH to it.

 That's its function.

Oh, but in that case I must surely be able to manually copy all the
words in my own .dic file into UserDic? My .dic file contains
thousands of words that I've added to it over the years, and then I
wouldn't have to add each word again to TB UserDic every time it comes
up. Am I right?


BH Would it be better to make them all into one big file?

 No, TB would have no means to distinguish between languages.

But TB UserDic now contains words from different languages. Hence my
question if I should use one dictionary for each language to add new
words to. If I add them all to UserDic, how does TB then distinguish
between those languages?


BH And why can TB only spell check this mail in BrE and not in AmE??

 Because you haven't installed American English?

Of course I've installed it, that's why I wonder.


 does your 'speller' directory contain the files ssceam.tlx and
 ssceam2.clx?

Yes, it does.

 BTW Did you install all the languages in the international pack?

Not quite all, only the ones I need: 12 languages.

So, why can't TB spell check this mail in AmE when I've installed it?


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Re: Dictionaries and Spell Checker - thanks!

2004-07-06 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Britt,

On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 23:09:30 +0200GMT (6-7-2004, 23:09 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

 BTW Did you install all the languages in the international pack?
BH Not quite all, only the ones I need: 12 languages.
BH So, why can't TB spell check this mail in AmE when I've installed it?

How do you try to call it?
Via the menu or via the %language=am macro in a template?

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Re: Do I need the strange address books? - thanks!

2004-07-06 Thread Charles M. Gerungan
Hello Britt,

On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 23:02:32 +0200 UTC, Britt Henrikson wrote:

 Answering another question from you: Yes, I for one like it when you
 state the real subject in the Subject: line, not something stupid
 like you see in tbbeta like: Probable bug? Classic...

BH I'm not aware of having asked any question about this...? Or maybe I
BH did that in May?

No. You stated this in the first message you posted. Something like:
I've learnt since that 

 What are Certum CA Directory, Netcenter Member Directory, Verisign,
 Intermediate CA and Trusted Root CA and why are they delivered with
 TB? I have ventured to delete them all. Are they necessary in a way
 that I'm not aware of?

 I'm not using TB! right now, but they most probably are root 
 certificates. You need them to verify if someone's certificate (which
 has been issued by one of those CA's [certificate authorities]) is valid.

BH Oh, sh-t... So I shouldn't have deleted them. But I suppose they can
BH be downloaded and installed again?

If TB! can import certs, you could try exporting them from your browser
and then importing again in TB!. Don't have a clue if that will work, so
go play :).

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Re: OT: AV - Thanks everyone

2004-06-04 Thread Jan Rifkinson
Hi malexander,

At 10:38 PM on Thursday, June 03, 2004 you m wrote the following
OT: AV - Thanks everyone:

m I tired it download NOD32 from the link they gave to me and after two
m hours their server still wasn't running. Couldn't even ping it. So, I
m went to Grisoft and downloaded the trial version of AVG. Got it
m running now - it was easy to set up and, to be honest, I have to
m check now and again to see the little icon in my SysTray because
m otherwise I wouldn't know it was there ;-)

 However, if security is the goal, I think there are many who
 would say that AVG leaves something to be desired while NOD32 
 PC-cillin are generally rated as the best while Norton sometimes
 conflicts with other programs  McAfee misses too much.

 Having said all that, I'm sure there will be disagreements but my
 feeling is better safe than sorry  each to their own.

-- 
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Re: OT: AV - Thanks everyone

2004-06-04 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Jan!

On Friday, June 04, 2004, 10:54 AM, you wrote:

JR Hi malexander,

JR At 10:38 PM on Thursday, June 03, 2004 you m wrote the following
JR OT: AV - Thanks everyone:

m I tired it download NOD32 from the link they gave to me and after two
m hours their server still wasn't running. Couldn't even ping it. So, I
m went to Grisoft and downloaded the trial version of AVG. Got it
m running now - it was easy to set up and, to be honest, I have to
m check now and again to see the little icon in my SysTray because
m otherwise I wouldn't know it was there ;-)

JR  However, if security is the goal, I think there are many who
JR  would say that AVG leaves something to be desired while NOD32 
JR  PC-cillin are generally rated as the best while Norton sometimes
JR  conflicts with other programs  McAfee misses too much.

JR  Having said all that, I'm sure there will be disagreements but my
JR  feeling is better safe than sorry  each to their own.



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Re: OT: AV - Thanks everyone

2004-06-04 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Jan!

On Friday, June 04, 2004, 10:54 AM, you wrote:

JR ... if security is the goal, I think there are many who would say
JR that AVG leaves something to be desired while NOD32  PC-cillin
JR are generally rated as the best while Norton sometimes conflicts
JR with other programs  McAfee misses too much.

Don't forget F-Secure. Runs three scanning engines, updates as often
as the user would like to set it, has heuristic analysis, relatively
simple user interface.

Sorry for what just accidentally went, prior to this, my intended
message. I'm convinced now to set my configuration to delayed rather
than immediate sending.

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Re[2]: OT: AV - Thanks everyone

2004-06-04 Thread malexander
Hello Mary,

Friday, June 4, 2004, 5:55:01 PM, you wrote:

MB Hello Jan!

MB On Friday, June 04, 2004, 10:54 AM, you wrote:

JR ... if security is the goal, I think there are many who would say
JR that AVG leaves something to be desired while NOD32  PC-cillin
JR are generally rated as the best while Norton sometimes conflicts
JR with other programs  McAfee misses too much.

MB Don't forget F-Secure. Runs three scanning engines, updates as often
MB as the user would like to set it, has heuristic analysis, relatively
MB simple user interface.

That;'s what used to be F-Prot.   I haven't really investigated it,
but know I at least have something I'll take a look at it.

MB Sorry for what just accidentally went, prior to this, my intended
MB message. I'm convinced now to set my configuration to delayed rather
MB than immediate sending.

heheheh. Engage brain before pressing button ;-)


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Re[2]: OT: AV - Thanks everyone

2004-06-04 Thread malexander
Hello Jan,

Friday, June 4, 2004, 4:54:49 PM, you wrote:

JR Hi malexander,

JR At 10:38 PM on Thursday, June 03, 2004 you m wrote the following
JR OT: AV - Thanks everyone:

m I tired it download NOD32 from the link they gave to me and after two
m hours their server still wasn't running. Couldn't even ping it. So, I
m went to Grisoft and downloaded the trial version of AVG. Got it
m running now - it was easy to set up and, to be honest, I have to
m check now and again to see the little icon in my SysTray because
m otherwise I wouldn't know it was there ;-)

JR  However, if security is the goal, I think there are many who
JR  would say that AVG leaves something to be desired while NOD32 
JR  PC-cillin are generally rated as the best while Norton sometimes
JR  conflicts with other programs  McAfee misses too much.

I think it depends, to some extent on who you read. I'd not seen
anything about NOD32 before it was mentioned here, and I've seen
reviews for PC-cillin which were less than impressive.  I do intend,
whoever, now that I have some protection, on checking out other
products as well.

Thanks :)

JR  Having said all that, I'm sure there will be disagreements but my
JR  feeling is better safe than sorry  each to their own.

Ideally, what I'd like to do is retire one of our computers and turn
it into a sheep dip where I can have 2 or 3 AV products running on
consecutively (easy to do with a script to load them in and out of
memory) so that everything gets checked multiple times. But that means
buying a new computer Which of course, would be newer, faster,
shinierI must go and see our bank manager... ;-)


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Re: OT: AV - Thanks everyone

2004-06-04 Thread DanG
Message received at: 6/4/2004:11:54 AM
JR However, if security is the goal, I think there are many who
JR would say that AVG leaves something to be desired while NOD32 
JR PC-cillin are generally rated as the best

I'm glad to see someone else boldly mention PC-Cillin. I've used it for years and it's 
caught everything the ether has thrown my way. Don't brag about it tho cause the name 
is so stupid.
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OT: AV - Thanks everyone

2004-06-03 Thread malexander
Hi

I tired it download NOD32 from the link they gave to me and after two
hours their server still wasn't running. Couldn't even ping it. So, I
went to Grisoft and downloaded the trial version of AVG. Got it
running now - it was easy to set up and, to be honest, I have to
check now and again to see the little icon in my SysTray because
otherwise I wouldn't know it was there ;-)

Thanks to everyone who replied, and to the moderators for not spearing
my fish ;-)

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Thanks for the Mail Dispatcher font gift

2004-03-07 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Stefan!

I'm starting a new thread to thank you, in order to comply with the DH
decree. You are special and Allie has said you are most welcome to
send messages post-DH any time that you have the time to be with us
here, and, of course, that goes under all circumstances, post-DH or
not.

But I thought I would try to live by our ordinary-subscriber rules,
even though I accidentally broke them just earlier today, and yet I
did want to thank you publicly as well as privately.

You replied to me, in part, on that other thread:

MB Could I ask you for some help ...? Is there a way I could have my
MB fonts larger in the Message Dispatcher?

STEFAN Done - from now on, MD uses the same font used for message lists. :-)

STEFAN Tomorrow (March, 8) is the International Women's Day accordingly to
STEFAN USSR calendar. This is the second most celebrated holiday on the most
STEFAN of former USSR territory after New Year. So, please take it as my
STEFAN present for that day. :-)

STEFAN Also, my congratulations to all women participating in TBUDL!

Thank you so much for this and for everything else that you wrote to
me. I will be looking forward with pleasure to reading everything you
send, on any thread, to the TB! lists in the future.

Again, my most sincere appreciation for all that you've done and will
be doing for The Bat!

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Re: uninstalling The Bat! - thanks

2004-01-23 Thread ken green
Just wanted to take a quick moment and publicly thank all of you who
have been participating in this thread.

Without this forum, I don't know where I'd be with The Bat!

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Re: TheBat or Pocomail - THANKS

2004-01-05 Thread S J Love
Again, the question 'what is better, The Bat! or Pocomail? is an
impossible question to answer Similar to asking a group of
motorcyclists what is the best out of  BMWs, Ducatis, Harleys etc

Questions of personal preferences - aesthetics, and what weight you
put on different characteristics - come into play big time.

But thank you all for your helpful comments. No, you haven't
'answered' my question - an impossible 'ask' - but your insights have
been interesting and helpful...

Finally, whatever I personally dislike about The Bat! (and I dislike
something about all of the several programs I have tried!), I do not doubt
it is an excellent email program - easily among the best...


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Re: TheBat or Pocomail - THANKS

2004-01-05 Thread ken green
S  J Love wrote:
 Similar to asking a group of
 motorcyclists what is the best out of  BMWs, Ducatis, Harleys 


Honda VFR

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Macro help needed - Thanks!

2003-09-18 Thread John Phillips

Hi Bat! Fans,

I use this macro in replies

%WRAPPED='%SETPATTREGEXP=(?m-s)^Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:%-
[\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%HEADERS%-
On%SUBPATT=2, at %SUBPATT=3 [GMT%SUBPATT=4] %-
(which was %OTIME where I live) you wrote:'

which translates the received time to my local time (GMT +10).
However if my day is one day ahead than the sending time (because of
time zone differences), this is not indicated at all. Just the local
time still.

Can a macro - RegExP expert help here?

T.I.A.

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Re: Macro help needed - Thanks!

2003-09-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi John,

@18-Sep-2003, 17:33 +1000 (08:33 UK time) John Phillips [JP] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Bat:

JP ... if my day is one day ahead than the sending time (because of
JP time zone differences), this is not indicated at all. Just the
JP local time still.

First allow me to *plead* with you to check your new message and
reply templates for TBUDL and modify the %TO= to %TO=''%TO= to
ensure that only one address survives the experience and we stop
seeing two of your posts.

Now, on to the question.

I use a far more complicated version of the date formatter that can
be modified to help you but spreads of a series of QTs. Just use
%QINCLUDE=DATER in a reply template or greeting line formatter QT.

,--/ DATER \--
[EMAIL PROTECTED](SDate), %QINCLUDE(TMGET) %-
%IF:'%QINCLUDE(TMGET)''%ODATE(hh:nn)':%-
'%QINCLUDE(TMZONE) (%-
%IF:#%QINCLUDE(TMDATE)##%ODATE(dd mmm )#:%-
#%DATE(dd/mm/)#%-
%OTIME local time)':''_
`-8-

,--/ SDATE \--
%SETPATTREGEXP=(?im-s)^Date:.*?\s(\d{1,2})\s%-
%REGEXPMATCH=%HEADERS-%-
%SETPATTREGEXP='(?im-s)^Date:.*?\s\d{1,2}\s(...)'%-
%REGEXPMATCH='%Headers'-%-
%SETPATTREGEXP=(?im-s)^Date:.*?\s(\d{4})%-
%REGEXPMATCH=%Headers
`-8-

,--/ TMGET \--
%SETPATTREGEXP=(?im-s)^Date\:.*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})%-
\:[\d]{0,2}.*?([-+]\d{4})%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%HEADERS%SUBPATT=1
`-8-

,--/ TMZONE \--
%SETPATTREGEXP=(?m-s)^Date:.*\d\d:\d\d:\d\d.*([+-]\d\d\d\d)%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%HEADERS%SUBPATT=1
`-8-

,--/ TMDATE \--
%SETPATTREGEXP=(?im-s)^Date\:.*?,\s([\d]{0,2}\s[\S]{0,3}%-
\s[\d]{0,4})%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%HEADERS%SUBPATT=1
`-8-

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Re: Macro help needed - Thanks!

2003-09-18 Thread John Phillips
Hi Marck,
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, at 09:44:10 [GMT +0100] (which was 18:44 where I
live) you wrote:


 First allow me to *plead* with you to check your new message and
 reply templates for TBUDL and modify the %TO= to %TO=''%TO= to
 ensure that only one address survives the experience and we stop
 seeing two of your posts.


I plead guilty.

Macro challenged.  This is what I use, and not sure from your post
how to correct:_

%TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]

(Apologies for double posting).

Exactly how should this be fixed.

Also which one of the three macros you posted should I use?

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Re: Macro help needed - Thanks!

2003-09-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi John,

@18-Sep-2003, 19:28 +1000 (10:28 UK time) John Phillips [JP] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck:

 First allow me to *plead* with you to check your new message and
 reply templates for TBUDL and modify the %TO= to %TO=''%TO= to
 ensure that only one address survives the experience and we stop
 seeing two of your posts.

JP Macro challenged.  This is what I use, and not sure from your
JP post how to correct:_

JP %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]

%TO=%TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] for new messages
%TO=''%TO='%OFROMFNAME on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED] for
replies.

JP Also which one of the three macros you posted should I use?

Erm - all? They were nested quick templates, all interdependent. And
I count five. As I said in the original posting, 'Just use
%QINCLUDE=DATER in a reply template or greeting line formatter
QT.'

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Re: Macro help needed - Thanks!

2003-09-18 Thread Robin Anson
On Thu 18 September 2003, 17:33:28 +1000, John Phillips wrote:
 I use this macro in replies
 
 %WRAPPED='%SETPATTREGEXP=(?m-s)^Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:%-
 [\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))%-
 %REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%HEADERS%-
 On%SUBPATT=2, at %SUBPATT=3 [GMT%SUBPATT=4] %-
 (which was %OTIME where I live) you wrote:'
 
 which translates the received time to my local time (GMT +10).
 However if my day is one day ahead than the sending time (because of
 time zone differences), this is not indicated at all. Just the local
 time still.
 
 Can a macro - RegExP expert help here?

Well, I don't claim to be a Regexp expert, but the following checks
the day in your timezone to the day in the sender's, and if they are
different, inserts your day and time, otherwise just your time.

%WRAPPED='%SETPATTREGEXP=(?m-s)^Date:\s*(((.*?),.*?[\d]{4})\s*([\d]{0,2}:%-
[\d]{0,2}:[\d]{0,2})\s*(.*))%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%HEADERS%-
On %SUBPATT=2, at %SUBPATT=4 [GMT%SUBPATT=5] %-
(which was %-
%IF:_%SUBPATT=3__%ODate=ddd_%-
:_%ODate=ddd, h:mm:ss_%-
:_%ODate=h:mm:ss_ where I live) you wrote:'

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Re: Macro help needed - Thanks!

2003-09-18 Thread John Phillips
Hi Robin,
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, at 21:39:13 [GMT+1000] (which was 21:39:13 where
I live) you wrote:



 Well, I don't claim to be a Regexp expert, but the following checks
 the day in your timezone to the day in the sender's, and if they are
 different, inserts your day and time, otherwise just your time.



Thanks!

Another Aussie!

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Re: Macro help needed - Thanks!

2003-09-18 Thread Robin Anson
On Fri 19 September 2003, 5:50:31 +1000, John Phillips wrote:
 Another Aussie!

Yes, and since I'm in Victoria I have the black  white flag up this
weekend. :)

Oops that way OT!

Robin

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Re: Macro help needed - Thanks!

2003-09-18 Thread Martin Webster
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Hello Marck,

On 18 September 2003, 10:59 Marck on TBUDL in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

MDP %TO=%TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] for new messages
MDP %TO=''%TO='%OFROMFNAME on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED] for
MDP replies.

I couldn't get the reply macro to work and adapted it thus:

%TO=''%TO=%OFROMFNAME on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Is this correct? Or should it be:

%TO=''%TO='%OFROMFNAME on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED]'

And while I'm here a couple more macro questions:

How do you define the prefix; e.g. MDP?
Each macro seems to add an extra line to the message. How can I avoid
this? Do you have to string them altogether?


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Re: Macro help needed - Thanks!

2003-09-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi Martin,

@18-Sep-2003, 23:03 Martin Webster [MW] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck:

MDP %TO=%TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] for new messages
MDP %TO=''%TO='%OFROMFNAME on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MDP for replies.

MW I couldn't get the reply macro to work and adapted it thus:

MW %TO=''%TO=%OFROMFNAME on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED]

MW Is this correct? Or should it be:

MW %TO=''%TO='%OFROMFNAME on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED]'

It should be the latter to cater for names that include any special
characters. I personally use
%TO=''%TO='%OFROMNAME on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED]'%-
to give the full name.

MW And while I'm here a couple more macro questions:

MW How do you define the prefix; e.g. MDP?

I use the Initials macro set on the FAQ Macro Library, although
that may need the v2 update treatment.

MW Each macro seems to add an extra line to the message. How can I
MW avoid this? Do you have to string them altogether?

That works. What works better is to use the %- pair at the end of a
line of macros when you don't want the newline to appear in the
generated text.

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Re: Macro help needed - Thanks!

2003-09-18 Thread Martin Webster
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Hello Marck,

On 18 September 2003, 23:14 Marck on TBUDL [MDP]in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

MDP It should be the latter to cater for names that include any special
MDP characters. I personally use
MDP %TO=''%TO='%OFROMNAME on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED]'%-
MDP to give the full name.

Cheers! That's what I'm going with.

MW How do you define the prefix; e.g. MDP?

MDP I use the Initials macro set on the FAQ Macro Library, although
MDP that may need the v2 update treatment.

Seems to work as is. Time will tell.

MW Each macro seems to add an extra line to the message. How can I
MW avoid this? Do you have to string them altogether?

MDP That works. What works better is to use the %- pair at the end of a
MDP line of macros when you don't want the newline to appear in the
MDP generated text.

Thanks, very helpful.

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Re: Great Filter Tip - Thanks

2003-03-17 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Hello Spyder,

 I am still looking around for the spam filter to replace it, but for
 now it and the delete key seem to work ok.

Use POPFile (http://popfile.sourceforge.net/), it's unbeatable.

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Great Filter Tip - Thanks

2003-03-16 Thread Spyder
** Thanks to who ever told me about being able to make a filter and being able
to copy and paste it to the next folder... that worked great.  Had the whole
ctl-cctl-shft-sctl-v routine going...

I have Norton Internet Security and its spam alert thing where when it thinks
a spam email comes thru, it just tags the subject with spam alert.  I just made
a Common folder for all of my junk email to end up in so I can sort thru them
and figure how I need to tweak my not so perfect Norton filters.

So why use norton?  You do not have to tell it/setup user names  password information 
for
it to scan emails... it checks every email coming thru, regardless which email
client I use or which email address/account I have.  I am not so fond of its
filters as it takes 9 steps to get to the filter edit screen and even then its
very basic word matching and good or bad email rules.  I am still looking
around for the spam filter to replace it, but for now it and the delete key seem
to work ok.

Scott
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Re: Great Filter Tip - Thanks

2003-03-16 Thread Heiko Kuschel
Hallo Spyder,

on Montag, 17. März 2003 you wrote:


 ** Thanks to who ever told me about being able to make a filter and being able
 to copy and paste it to the next folder... that worked great.  Had the whole
 ctl-cctl-shft-sctl-v routine going...

 I have Norton Internet Security en and even then its
 very basic word matching and good or bad email rules.  I am still looking
 around for the spam filter to replace it, but for now it and the delete key seem
 to work ok.

Have you tried Spampal? Working quite well for me. And not a lot to
configure in the mail program, very easy. Disadvantage is that it
takes a while when a mail comes in that SpamPal cannot identify. It
takes upto 20 seconds until it has asked all those online Spam lists.


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Thanks, that did it (was Re: How to set TB as default mail client inMozilla 1.1)

2002-10-14 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Lars,

My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.62/Beta5) Personal' was used
to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Monday, October 14, 2002 at 8:35:50 AM.

LG As long as Mozilla's Mail application is installed, it is used be
LG default for mailto: links. There are 2 possibilities to change this
LG behaviour:

LG 1.)  Install Mozilla with a custom installation and leave out the Mail
LG  client.

LG 2.)  Add the following line to your user.js file in your Profiles
LG  directory:

LGuser_pref(network.protocol-handler.external.mailto, true);

Reminds me of Netsacpe!  Thanks, the prefs.js file change worked!

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Re[2]: digest and sig delimiter (thanks)

2002-09-02 Thread M Sulchan Darmawan

dear all,

thanks  for  these  valuable  suggest.  I  would  like  to  try  each
suggestion... SOL

Marck D Pearlstone, on Monday, September 2, 2002, 4:41:04 PM, you wrote:
MDP This is a global standard delimiter and is not confined to The Bat!

MDP TB uses the *last* delimiter as the one. If everyone signed with a
MDP delimiter, there would be no problem.

MDP One solution could be to change the way signatures are displayed so
MDP that the message becomes more legible.

MDP Another idea is, as Ochrid suggested, to forward the digest to
MDP yourself with an extra signature at the end to divert TB's attention
MDP (you don't need an extra account to do this).

MDP You could complain on the list and beseech all members to use cut
MDP marks to alleviate the problem. This is not practical in reality.

MDP Finally, as Lynn said, there aren't many real benefits to digest
MDP mode - why not just receive separate messages.



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Thanks David

2002-05-16 Thread Chill

Hi David van Zuijlekom,

Thanks a lot for your help :-)

  

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Re: Many thanks!

2002-04-17 Thread Peter Meyns

Hi Michael,

on Wed, 17 Apr 2002 06:35:16 -0500GMT (which was 17.04.02, 13:35 +0200GMT
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Re: Nice quotes and thanks everyone

2002-02-14 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Jan You can find a full explanation  all the QTs   necessary to
Jan produce that format on the TB_Beta list   under 'template
Jan problems in beta_39'.

 Where is that located please? I couldn't find it at
 http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/support.html

You can find the TBBETA list archive on
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Re: Nice quotes and thanks everyone

2002-02-14 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Carsten Thönges.

At 8:43 PM on Wednesday, February 13, 2002 you wrote
the following about [Nice quotes and thanks everyone]

JR   All credit for that goes to German List  Carsten
JR   Thongs who introduced it to us.
Carsten   ^^
Carsten   Aaargl *LOL* ;-)

  So sorry, pure laziness on my part.

  I did try for the umlaut or whatever that character
  is called but couldn't make it happen using my ASCII
  characters. But then it would have been Thöngs  that
  wouldn't have been much better, would it?

  You can refer to me as Jom, Janne, Jane, Jon, John a
  couple of times to even things up. OK? :-)

  Best regards,

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Re: Nice quotes and thanks everyone

2002-02-14 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Jan,

On Thursday, February 14, 2002 at 4:13:26 PM you wrote in
msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):

JR JR   Thongs who introduced it to us.
Carsten   ^^
Carsten   Aaargl *LOL* ;-)

[...]
JR   characters. But then it would have been Thöngs  that
  ^^
  Thönges
   ^
But that's the price one pays for a name scooping from all possible
characters *LoL*

Ne wahr, Carsten *grins*
 ^^^
(Isn't it)

 (EOT @ !OT)  (f'up2: OT)
 :-)
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Nice quotes and thanks everyone

2002-02-13 Thread Shoebuddy Jones

Wednesday, February 13, 2002 at 12:15 PM

Jan At 3:41 AM on Wednesday, February 13, 2002 you wrote
Jan the following about [More questions...]

Jan ,- [Shoebuddy]
Jan |  I hope you don't mind if I ask a few more questions
Jan |  1) what are all the properties for %Quotestyle?
Jan |  2) Can I automatically set it up so that when I create a
Jan |  message for within a folder (say containing this
Jan |  discussion group emails)the to line reads
Jan |  [EMAIL PROTECTED] or whatever?
Jan '-
  
Jan   The short answer to your questions are 'no'  'yes'.
Jan   As Marck points out you want to be careful what your
Jan   change. This is particularly important because TB!
Jan   can change/automate almost anything.

Jan   Best to make your templates in the Address Book either
Jan   on the group level or in a individual entry.

Jan   To get a grasp of what TB! is capable of -- including
Jan   the answer to your Quotestyle question, click on
Jan   Help. In Index, search 'Template Macros' to see the
Jan   full panoply of template options avialable in TB!

Jan   HTH


 
 First I wish to thank everyone for their replies.  They
 were all very helpful

 Jan, I love the way you format your quotes.  Could you
 tell us how you did that?


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Re: Nice quotes and thanks everyone

2002-02-13 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Shoebuddy.

At 12:16 PM on Wednesday, February 13, 2002 you wrote
the following about [Nice quotes and thanks everyone]

Shoebuddy Jan, I love the way you format your quotes.
Shoebuddy Could you tell us how you did that?

  All credit for that goes to German List  Carsten
  Thongs who introduced it to us.

  You can find a full explanation  all the QTs
  necessary to produce that format on the TB_Beta list
  under 'template problems in beta_39'.

  HTH

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Re: Nice quotes and thanks everyone

2002-02-13 Thread Carsten Thnges

Hi Jan,

Shoebuddy Jan, I love the way you format your quotes.
Shoebuddy Could you tell us how you did that?

JR   All credit for that goes to German List  Carsten
JR   Thongs who introduced it to us.
  ^^
  Aaargl *LOL* ;-)

JR   You can find a full explanation  all the QTs [...]

These (recursive) QTs don't work with TB v1.53. You should wait until
we have a v1.54 final release :-)

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Distribution Lists - Thanks

2002-01-14 Thread GJim

Howdy Ladies and Gents,

Thanks to all who responded regarding my question about distribution
lists.  I think that I have all the necessary info, now.

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Thanks

2002-01-11 Thread Joseph N.

For answers to recent inquiries, as well as for older answers that
went unacknowledged, thanks.  This mailing list is extremely helpful,
civil, and most usually on-topic.

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Re: Thanks here's another one!

2001-02-07 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Gary,

Monday, February 05, 2001, 10:57:05 PM, you wrote:

GJT How do I reclaim TB!'s
GJT rightful place as default mail client?

In M$IE:
Tools
| Internet Options
  | Programs
| E-mail:

Or from Win2k it is:
Start
| Settings
  | Control Pannel
| Internet Options
  | Programs
| E-mail:

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Re: Thanks here's another one!

2001-02-07 Thread Brian Clark


Hi Tim,

@ 8:39:21 AM on 2/7/2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

GJT How do I reclaim TB!'s
GJT rightful place as default mail client?

 In M$IE:

[...]

You can also refer to the FAQ for Netscalp and Operaw:

http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/howdoi.html#Mailto:%20(browser)

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Thanks here's another one!

2001-02-05 Thread Gary J. Toth


The threads thing works just fine.  Thanks to all.

Next?  I have Outlook 2K installed.  It seems to have taken over as my default
mail client.  As we all know, O2K pretty much stinks.  How do I reclaim TB!'s
rightful place as default mail client?

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You can go anywhere you want if you look serious and carry a  clipboard.
^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^
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Thanks for using English!

2001-01-05 Thread Gerry Doyon

Hello everyone!

I have recently purchased The Bat! and like it VERY much.  I also
subscribe to this list server, of course.

From a person who was born and raised in the United States I want to
thank everyone else whose primary language is NOT English.  I
appreciate your willingness to write your comments/e-mails in English.
Oh, how I wish I had not last my secondary Canadian French labguage as
a child.

So, THANKS!!

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Re: Thanks for using English!

2001-01-05 Thread Danilo Barbuio

Hello Gerry,

Friday, January 05, 2001, 2:55:29 PM, you wrote:


GD From a person who was born and raised in the United States I want to
GD thank everyone else whose primary language is NOT English.  I
GD appreciate your willingness to write your comments/e-mails in English.
GD Oh, how I wish I had not last my secondary Canadian French labguage as
GD a child.

GD So, THANKS!!

Prego

(this is italian ... but I think it's ok for this answer :-)))

Ciao (another italian word)

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Re: Thanks for using English!

2001-01-05 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo Gerry,

On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 08:55:29 -0500 GMT (05/01/2001, 21:55 +0800 GMT),
Gerry Doyon wrote:

GD I have recently purchased The Bat! and like it VERY much.  I also
GD subscribe to this list server, of course.

Good choice. :-)

GD From a person who was born and raised in the United States I want to
GD thank everyone else whose primary language is NOT English.  I
GD appreciate your willingness to write your comments/e-mails in English.

You are most welcome. Of course, feel free to subscribe the German,
Russian, Italian, Czech and Polish lists. The willingness of the
people to speak the list language there is just as formidable! ;-)

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Re: Thanks for using English!

2001-01-05 Thread Syafril Hermansyah

Hello Thomas Fernandez,

On  Friday,  January 05, 2001 at 23:22:35 GMT +0800(which was 1/5/2001
10:22 PM where you think I live) you told to the list :

GD From a person who was born and raised in the United States I want to
GD thank everyone else whose primary language is NOT English.  I
GD appreciate your willingness to write your comments/e-mails in English.

TF You  are  most  welcome.  Of  course,  feel  free to subscribe the
TF German,  Russian, Italian, Czech and Polish lists. The willingness
TF of  the  people  to  speak  the  list  language  there  is just as
TF formidable! ;-)

I am considering to create The Bat! Indonesia List near future, some
of friends keep asking me since last couple month :-)

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Re: Thanks for using English!

2001-01-05 Thread Stefano Zamprogno

Ciao Danilo,

Friday, January 05, 2001, 3:03:29 PM, you wrote:

DB Prego

Idem da un altro utente Italiano :-)))
(Idem from another Italian user)

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Re: Thanks for using English!

2001-01-05 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo Syafril,

On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 23:51:44 +0700 GMT (06/01/2001, 00:51 +0800 GMT),
Syafril Hermansyah wrote:

SH I am considering to create The Bat! Indonesia List near future, some
SH of friends keep asking me since last couple month :-)

Keep us informed and all good luck!

Speaking of TB lists in Asian languages, a Chinese list was set up
sometime in 1999, but it fell asleep again. It was GB2312 encoded
(simplified Chinese - Mainland China), like the Chinese TB interface.
Maybe one day we'll have another Chinese list, I see a chance for a
Big5 encoded Chinese interface (traditional Chinese - Taiwan, Hong
Kong, Singapore), followed by a Chinese (Big5) list. dream

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Re: Thanks for using English!

2001-01-05 Thread Syafril Hermansyah

Hello Thomas Fernandez,

On Saturday, January 06, 2001 at 01:19:47 GMT +0800(which was 1/6/2001
12:19 AM where you think I live) you told to the list :

SH I  am  considering to create The Bat! Indonesia List near future,
SH some of friends keep asking me since last couple month :-)

TF Keep us informed and all good luck!

TF Speaking of TB lists in Asian languages, a Chinese list was set up
TF sometime  in 1999, but it fell asleep again. It was GB2312 encoded
TF (simplified  Chinese  -  Mainland  China),  like  the  Chinese  TB
TF interface.  Maybe one day we'll have another Chinese list, I see a
TF chance for a Big5 encoded Chinese interface (traditional Chinese -
TF Taiwan,  Hong Kong, Singapore), followed by a Chinese (Big5) list.
TF dream

Perhaps due TB not supporting DCBC well, yet :-(
Well we hope TB will supporting it in near future.

Our language will cover Malaysia and Singapore (whom speak BAHASA),
but I don't know how large TB already use by Malaysian or Singapore
people.

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THANKS Re: Mailbox Import Wizard no longer sees Eudora mailboxes

2000-11-26 Thread David Perrotta

Mark,

Your suggested workaround is excellent -- allows me to
get the job done and stop futzing around.   Odd,
though, isn't it, that the Mailbox Import Wizard would
work fine initially and then stop working without any
changes to TB?

The only thing I can think of that's different is that
I did ADD a number of mailboxes to my Eudora Pro
configuration.  Could it be that I exceeded some
threshold beyond which TB can't deal with the
information from Eudora?   I have about 75 Eudora
mailboxes plus about 8 or 10 folders each containing
5-10 more mailboxes -- all together maybe 125-150
mailboxes.  

Any thoughts are welcome, but above all, thanks to
Mark for the workaround.

best regards,
-David Perrotta

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 Saturday, November 25, 2000, 8:57:53 PM, you wrote:
 
  I'm using the Halloween edition for Windows95.  I
  recently used the Mailbox Import Wizard to bring
 over
  some messages from my installation of Eudora Pro
 3.05.
 
 
  It worked flawlessly the first time, but now when
 I
  try to do the same thing again, the wizard only
  identifies three Eudora mailboxes -- IN, OUT, and
  TRASH.  
 
  The problem is that I have many more mailboxes and
  folders than that, but for some reason TB is not
  recognizing them any longer.
 
 Try importing them as Unix mail boxes, you will find
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 Eudora directory with an *.mbx extension to the
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Re: THANKS Re: Mailbox Import Wizard no longer sees Eudora mailboxes

2000-11-26 Thread Mark Aston

Hi David,

Sunday, November 26, 2000, 8:14:47 PM, you wrote:

 Your suggested workaround is excellent -- allows me to
 get the job done and stop futzing around.   Odd,
 though, isn't it, that the Mailbox Import Wizard would
 work fine initially and then stop working without any
 changes to TB?

 The only thing I can think of that's different is that
 I did ADD a number of mailboxes to my Eudora Pro
 configuration.  Could it be that I exceeded some
 threshold beyond which TB can't deal with the
 information from Eudora?   I have about 75 Eudora
 mailboxes plus about 8 or 10 folders each containing
 5-10 more mailboxes -- all together maybe 125-150
 mailboxes.  

 Any thoughts are welcome, but above all, thanks to
 Mark for the workaround.

Glad it worked out OK, I really have no idea why TB! wizard did not
see the other mailboxes, as you say there may be a limit or it just
sees the default boxes. Either way the Eudora boxes are in actually in
Unix format anyway, Eudora just creates a *.toc file to index the
mailbox.

I have a copy of Eudora 5.02 (for experimentation) and when I tried
TB! import wizard it could see all of the mailboxes, maybe it's just a
problem with 3.05

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THANKS! Re: How to extract text for use in auto-reply?

2000-11-24 Thread David Perrotta

Januk,

Thanks a million for the macro text!  It does exactly
what I need it to do.  Your answer came almost
immediately -- what a strange and marvelously
connected world we live in.  (I'm not usually this
cheerful.)

For everyone else's reference I'm also including this
response from TB tech support:

Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 08:16:05 +0200
From: Stefan Tanurkov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization: RIT Research Labs
To: David Perrotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The Bat! - information request

Hello David,

Yes, you should read the "Using Regular Expressions
in Templates"
topic in the help file. It is located in the "Regular
Expressions"
chapter. There were examples and you can learn how to
use RegExps
fast...

Also, you may want to look at the TBUDL archives -
they have a lot of
examples of using regular expressions -
http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com 

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best regards,
-David Perrotta



--- Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello David,
 
 On  Thu, 23 Nov 2000  at  21:21:39 GMT -0800 (PST)
 (which was 9:21 PM
 where I live) witnesses say David Perrotta typed:
 
  From the little I understand of TB's regular
  expressions capabilities, I think that there IS
 some
  way to do this.
 
  Here's an example of the type of e-mail I'd be
  responding to and from which I'm trying to extract
 the
  information for FIRST NAME and LAST NAME so that I
 can
  insert these into my auto reply:
 
 First Name: David N.
 Last Name: Perrotta
 
 Try the following:
 
 ---Begin Macro---
 

%SETPATTREGEXP="(?is).*?First.Name:\s*(.*?)$.*?Last.Name:\s*(.*?)$"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%TEXT"
 Extracted First Name: %SUBPATT="1"
 Extracted Last Name : %SUBPATT="2"
 
 ---End Macro---
 
 When applied to the message you sent, this is the
 output:
 
 Extracted First Name: David N.
 Extracted Last Name : Perrotta
 
 Try that and see if it works for you.
 
 Hope that helps.
 
 -- 
 Thanks for writing,
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Disagreement, Bingo, and Thanks (Was Re[2]: Keyboard Shortcut... (Ctrl+=)...

2000-09-23 Thread JM14

Januk,

   Are you sure? In my Bat that shortcut designation is
   "Ctrl+Plus", same as auto-completion of address-book addresses.

JA It is Ctrl-= on english keyboards

I'm using a Shellfish keyboard, and, for me, it's Ctrl+Plus.

(Which, as an aside, is precisely what I was most looking
for at the moment.  I am not a power user, am indeed daunted
by some of the posting here, and thus, on both counts, have
little I can contribute, regrettably.  But I do slog through
most of all but the most recondite posts (recondite to me,
anyway), and, bit by bit, pick up a wealth of information.
For which I thank you all.  Spectacular program, TB. [But
wouldn't a manual or genuine Help system be an easier way to
go about learning it?]  something between grin and wistful
smile [Would almost certainly result in an explosive
increase in the user base, too.])

Be well,
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Re: Disagreement, Bingo, and Thanks (Was Re[2]: Keyboard Shortcut... (Ctrl+=)...

2000-09-23 Thread JM14

All,


JA It is Ctrl-= on english keyboards

Jan I'm using a Shellfish keyboard, and, for me, it's Ctrl+Plus.

How's that for an obscure keyboard, eh?  Anyone, think they
can get a handle on that one?

Actually, what I wrote was "a US-English keyboard."
Originally, I had lowercased "english."  When Spell Check,
puzzled over the construction, I used the pause to uppercase
"English," telling Spell Check to make the change, then,
that being the only error, sent the message off, discovering
only afterward that Spell Check had made its own change.

Thus . . . the remarkably esoteric Shellfish keyboard.


Be well,
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Re: PGP woes (thanks)

2000-09-14 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi Aaron,

On 15 September 2000 at 09:59:11 GMT +1000 (which was 00:59 where I
live) Aaron wrote and made these points on the subject
of "PGP woes (thanks)":

A Well it seems to be working now, BTW I copied the DLL into The Bat!
A directory...that is OK?

Perfect - that's where mine is.

A At any rate The Bat! found it.

A Thanks again for the swift reply, good on ya!

My pleasure.

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 Kids Stuff:
To most people solutions mean finding the answers.
But to chemists solutions are things that are still
all mixed up.
 
 TB! v1.46 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured
Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness!

iQA/AwUBOcF0dznkJKuSnc2gEQJU8ACgii5+IvPWb+C3aeHE+krcAscE9YoAn2gE
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Thanks!

2000-08-09 Thread Terry G. Munson

Hi Marck

On Tuesday, August 08, 2000 you made the following points on the subject ""Huh? I 
don't own this mailing list!""


 %QINCLUDE="TMIntro"%CURSOR%QUOTESTYLE="I"%QINCLUDE="req"

Thanks  to  you  and  Ming-Li for the help on the templates.  You have
helped me move into a new area of The Bat! use.

Thanks to Steve and Joe for the "entertainment".

Later,
Terry



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Thanks (and I See I Was Unclear)

2000-08-07 Thread JM14

Hi,

I don't know if this message, which I sent a week or so ago, ever made
it to the list.  I was having some subscription problems at the time.
All is well with that now, and I simply want to be sure that I did
acknowledge the help that I received.  What I wrote was:

Thanks to all who responded to my comments and my basic question
regarding blocking-and-bolding or blocking-and-coloring.  I appreciate
the swiftness of response and helpfulness.

I had already created a folder with filter for TBUDL, and did know how
to flag individual messages, and was just beginning to peek into
colors.

What I had meant to ask was how, when reading many messages in one
long *digest* form, I could highlight certain selected passages within
the long digest for later reference.  But that's academic now (except
for mild abstract curiosity).  Replies on this list, and a bit of
experience show me that I'm much better off receiving individual
messages and concentrating on those immediately relevant to my state
of experience (just beginning at this point)and simply archiving some
for later and deleting others.

Which is what I intend to do as soon as I straighten out a mild
complication in my subscribing (which I believe is in process).

[And which I have indeed now done.]

 Thanks again.

Be well,
Jerry


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Thanks (and I See I Was Unclear)

2000-08-01 Thread JM14

Hi,

Thanks to all who responded to my comments and my basic question
regarding blocking-and-bolding or blocking-and-coloring.  I appreciate
the swiftness of response and helpfulness.

I had already created a folder with filter for TBUDL, and did know how
to flag individual messages, and was just beginning to peek into
colors.

What I had meant to ask was how, when reading many messages in one
long *digest* form, I could highlight certain selected passages within
the long digest for later reference.  But that's academic now (except
for mild abstract curiosity).  Replies on this list, and a bit of
experience show me that I'm much better off receiving individual
messages and concentrating on those immediately relevant to my state
of experience (just beginning at this point)and simply archiving some
for later and deleting others.

Which is what I intend to do as soon as I straighten out a mild
complication in my subscribing (which I believe is in process).

Thanks again.

Be well,
Jerry


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Thanks, thanks, 1000 times thanks!

2000-05-05 Thread Vincent - D. Ertner

Hi Co-Batties,

finally ... I'm so happy ... 1.42: It has Ctrl+P for printing
messages!

Thanx to all the people who heard me and managed it! Thanx.

Did I mention that I'm thankful? ;-)

Cheers,

Vince

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Re: Changing Reply-to for one folder only - THANKS!

2000-03-10 Thread Laura Jennings-Blijleven

Hi Roel,

Not only did that work like a charm, you brightened my day with your
art.

Smiling,

Laura


On 3/10/2000 at 10:29 AM, Roel wrote:

R  \\\|///
R  / ~ _ \
R (- O o -)
R --oOOo-(_)-oOOo---
R Hello Laura,

LJB Do you know if there's a macro you can put in the templates of
LJB your specific folder to achieve this?

R put %TO="" %TO="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" into the folder-template.
R That'll do exactly what you want...

R The first %TO="" will clear the original contents of the field, while
R the second one sets the new contents... (if you'd use only 1, it's
R value would be added to the existing %to-contents)

R hth



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Re: Changing Reply-to for one folder only - THANKS!

2000-03-10 Thread Allie Martin

On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 11:14:10 -0800, Laura Jennings-Blijleven wrote:

 Not only did that work like a charm, you brightened my day with your
 art.

 Smiling,

Er. Hm .. K! Looks as if I was the one
misinterpreting. I thought you meant the reverse of what you in fact
wanted. Forget the rest of my confusion. :)


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