Re: Templates

[Tom]

Sunday, August 13, 2017, 1:25:49 AM, you wrote:

> You could copy ACCOUNT.QTB from your %email% folder to the same place
> in your new installation. That file contains all your common QTs. Any
> account-specific QTs will be stored in another ACCOUNT.QTB file in the
> folder for the relevant account.

Happy to confirm that this still works and it works well.
All  my  account  specific template from the account that had the most
templates  are  now  treated  as common templates, making adding a few
additional ones much easier.


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Re: Templates

[MFPA]

Hi


On Sunday 13 August 2017 at 5:51:14 AM, in
, Tom wrote:-


> Great  -  I  have never used common QTF though it
> seems now that might
> have been easier allround. Is it possible to copy the
> Account.QTB file
> of one specific account into the Common location and
> that way turn the
> account  specific templates into common templates ? 
> Then I would only
> have to manually set up a few other templates
> scattered around various
> accounts to have everything as common templates.  

Yes. At least, it worked when I did it a few years ago.



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Re: Templates

[Tom]

> You could copy ACCOUNT.QTB from your %email% folder to the same place
> in your new installation. That file contains all your common QTs. Any
> account-specific QTs will be stored in another ACCOUNT.QTB file in the
> folder for the relevant account.

Great  -  I  have never used common QTF though it seems now that might
have been easier allround. Is it possible to copy the Account.QTB file
of one specific account into the Common location and that way turn the
account  specific templates into common templates ?  Then I would only
have to manually set up a few other templates scattered around various
accounts to have everything as common templates.






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Re: Templates

[MFPA]

Hi


On Saturday 12 August 2017 at 10:44:36 AM, in
, Tom wrote:-


> Hello Everyone,

> I  just  bought  another  license  and  would  like
> to use my existing
> templates  from my main pc on a second pc. What would
> be the procedure
> to export / import the quick templates.
> I  think  I will set up everything else from scratch
> but would like to
> have my templates imported and ready from the start.  


You could copy ACCOUNT.QTB from your %email% folder to the same place
in your new installation. That file contains all your common QTs. Any
account-specific QTs will be stored in another ACCOUNT.QTB file in the
folder for the relevant account.



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Re: Templates question

[Volker Ahrendt]

[In Reply to: »Chris Wilson« · 2017-05-16 · 11:33 h (CET)]

Moin, Chris et al.!

>>> I  subscribe to a mailing list but when I reply to it the reply always
>>> goes to the e-mail address of the poster to the list, and not the list
>>> address.   i  have  put  the  following  templates  under  the  folder
>>> properties,  but  despite  this  the  replies  go to the sender of the
>>> message.  What  have I done wrong please? BAT! version should be in my
>>> sig, thanks.

>>> %REPLYTO=""

>> Please try without angle brackets:

>> %REPLYTO="a...@contesting.com"


> Thanks for that, I had high hopes you'd cracked it, but sadly it still
> isn't  working  Thomas.  Even if the From: line to the list shows like
> this

> Bryan Swadener via Amps 

> The reply goes to

> Bryan Swadener 

Try this:

%TO=""%-
%TO="a...@contesting.com"

First line clears the To field. Second line sets the address of the
mailing list.

%REPLYTO sets an alternative reply address of *your* e-mail, e. g.:

- you send an e-mail with %REPLYTO=""
- my reply to your mail will be sent to gniddlf...@blub.com

Cheers!
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Re: Templates question

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Chris,

On Mon, 15 May 2017 16:25:58 +0100 GMT (15/05/2017, 22:25 +0700 GMT),
Chris Wilson wrote:

> I  subscribe to a mailing list but when I reply to it the reply always
> goes to the e-mail address of the poster to the list, and not the list
> address.   i  have  put  the  following  templates  under  the  folder
> properties,  but  despite  this  the  replies  go to the sender of the
> message.  What  have I done wrong please? BAT! version should be in my
> sig, thanks.


> %REPLYTO=""

Please try without angle brackets:

%REPLYTO="a...@contesting.com"

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Re: Templates

[Adrian Godfrey]

Monday, March 16, 2015, 1:22:50 AM, you wrote:

 I send and read plain text because, as far as I'm concerned, an email
 is a message and not a presentation.

Same here. Email is email. HTML is for websites.

If  all  that  presentation  is  actually  needed,  that's what file
attachments are for.

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Re: Templates

[MFPA]

Hi


On Friday 13 March 2015 at 5:30:42 PM, in
mid:1338099699.20150313133...@grunwalds.com, Rick wrote:


 You can personalize your response i.e. font, add a company logo,
 flowered borders etc :))  

Fortunately, the recipient can view messages in plain text and not be 
subjected to the visual assault you describe. (-;


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Re: Templates

[MFPA]

Hi


On Friday 13 March 2015 at 12:17:09 AM, in
mid:428509221.20150312191...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:



 Well, as you can see from here:
 http://clip2net.com/s/3e5DDQa, I have to do this to get
 to where you're describing (probably version
 differences).  But even then after I've selected
 Signature Text and made the necessary changes, it
 still has no effect on my sig in an AB reply.

Not sure if related, but your cut mark has gained a space at the
beginning, and therefore no longer works. In your previous two
messages it was fine.

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Re: Templates

[Rick]

 Fortunately, the recipient can view messages in plain text and not be 
 subjected to the visual assault you describe. (-;
Personally I will be adding leprechauns for St Patty's day and change them to 
Easter bunnies after that :)) 
Hows THAT for a visual assault? :)))



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Re: Templates

[MFPA]

Hi


On Sunday 15 March 2015 at 4:54:03 PM, in
mid:1727854470.20150315125...@grunwalds.com, Rick wrote:


 Personally I will be adding leprechauns for St Patty's day and
 change them to Easter bunnies after that :)) 
 Hows THAT for a visual assault? :)))

Fine by me; I would not see them. 

I send and read plain text because, as far as I'm concerned, an email
is a message and not a presentation. If any of my correspondents
choose to add bells and whistles, I do not see them so they cannot
distract my attention from the message.


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Re: Templates

[Rick]

Could someone kindly explain the practical effect this setting for the AB 
template -- or any level of template.
You can personalize your response i.e. font, add a company logo, flowered 
borders etc :))  I used to always include the Geico Gecko when corresponding 
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Re: Templates

[Leonard S. Berkowitz]

On Thursday, March 12, 2015, 11:08:15 PM, you (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote:

 making sure the the AB template is set to
 HTML

Could someone kindly explain the practical effect this setting for the
AB template -- or any level of template.

Thank you.


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Re: Templates

[Leonard S. Berkowitz]

On Friday, March 13, 2015, 1:30:42 PM, Rick Grunwalds 
(tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote:

 You can personalize your response i.e. font, add a company logo,
 flowered borders etc :))  I used to always include the Geico Gecko
 when corresponding with my insurance agent

Thanks.

Did it take 15 minutes to set up this insurance-agent template? grin

Leonard
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Re: Templates

[Rick]

Did it take 15 minutes to set up this insurance-agent template? 
Hehehe yes but it was worth it



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Re: Templates

[Jack S. LaRosa]

  Hello Rick,
 
On Friday, March 13, 2015 you wrote:
 
 Hello MFPA,
  
 On Thursday, March 12, 2015 you wrote:
  
M Hi

M On Thursday 12 March 2015 at 2:06:43 PM, in
M mid:883867997.20150312090...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

 As said, everything below the cursor positioning macro
 reverts to Courier New 12pt (unless the cut mark is
 somehow influencing the font).  Any ideas as to why
 this would happen?  

M What font do you have set for Signature Text at 
M Options | Preferences | Viewer/Editor | Message Viewer/Editor?

 Well, as you can see from here: http://clip2net.com/s/3e5DDQa, I
 have to do this to get to where you're describing (probably version
 differences).  But even then after I've selected Signature Text
 and made the necessary changes, it still has no effect on my sig in
 an AB reply.

 Mind you this is certainly not critical to anything, merely annoying.

R The  AB template is overriding it. Make changes to the AB template and
R you  should  be  good  to go (making sur the the AB template is set to
R HTML

The salutation and sig in the AB template are both set to Times New Roman 14pt 
and the format is already set to HTML.
 
 -- 
 Best Regards, 
Jack LaRosa
:usflag: Central Alabama
 
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Re: Templates

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Thomas,

On Thursday, March 12, 2015 you wrote:

TF Hello Jack,

TF On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 17:05:36 -0500 GMT (10-Mar-15, 05:05 +0700 GMT),
TF Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

 Hello TBUs,

 Is there anywhere I can find an explanation of how TB chooses which
 template to use for new messages, replies etc.

 On the one hand I might want it to use a personalized AB template but
 on another I might want a more generalized folder account template.

 I searched the archives but couldn't find anything newer than 10 years
 ago searching for TEMPLATE or TEMPLATES.

TF AFAIK the priority that TB! chooses is as follows (highest to lowest):

TF AB template
TF Folder template
TF Account template

TF HTH.


Well, I was going to reply that that priority didn't work for me until I 
realized that although I was replying to an existing denizen of my AB, although 
it was the same name, it was written from a new email address.  Once I added 
that new email address to her list of email addresses, the AB reply template 
always comes up now.

I notice however that although the template is composed in Times New Roman 
14pt, the template text below the quoted text (my sig) in the reply reverts to 
Courier New 12pt.  The template is as follows:

Hi Honey,

On %ODATEEN= you wrote:

%QUOTES
%CURSOR

-- 
Toodles,
Dad

As said, everything below the cursor positioning macro reverts to Courier New 
12pt (unless the cut mark is somehow influencing the font).  Any ideas as to 
why this would happen?

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Re: Templates

[Rick]

 Hello MFPA,
  
 On Thursday, March 12, 2015 you wrote:
  
M Hi

M On Thursday 12 March 2015 at 2:06:43 PM, in
M mid:883867997.20150312090...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

 As said, everything below the cursor positioning macro
 reverts to Courier New 12pt (unless the cut mark is
 somehow influencing the font).  Any ideas as to why
 this would happen?  

M What font do you have set for Signature Text at 
M Options | Preferences | Viewer/Editor | Message Viewer/Editor?

 Well, as you can see from here: http://clip2net.com/s/3e5DDQa, I
 have to do this to get to where you're describing (probably version
 differences).  But even then after I've selected Signature Text
 and made the necessary changes, it still has no effect on my sig in
 an AB reply.

 Mind you this is certainly not critical to anything, merely annoying.

The  AB template is overriding it. Make changes to the AB template and
you  should  be  good  to go (making sur the the AB template is set to
HTML
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Re: Templates

[MFPA]

Hi


On Thursday 12 March 2015 at 2:06:43 PM, in
mid:883867997.20150312090...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:




 As said, everything below the cursor positioning macro
 reverts to Courier New 12pt (unless the cut mark is
 somehow influencing the font).  Any ideas as to why
 this would happen?  


What font do you have set for Signature Text at 
Options | Preferences | Viewer/Editor | Message Viewer/Editor?



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Re: Templates

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello MFPA,
 
On Thursday, March 12, 2015 you wrote:
 
M Hi

M On Thursday 12 March 2015 at 2:06:43 PM, in
M mid:883867997.20150312090...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

 As said, everything below the cursor positioning macro
 reverts to Courier New 12pt (unless the cut mark is
 somehow influencing the font).  Any ideas as to why
 this would happen?  

M What font do you have set for Signature Text at 
M Options | Preferences | Viewer/Editor | Message Viewer/Editor?

Well, as you can see from here: http://clip2net.com/s/3e5DDQa, I
have to do this to get to where you're describing (probably version
differences).  But even then after I've selected Signature Text
and made the necessary changes, it still has no effect on my sig in
an AB reply.

Mind you this is certainly not critical to anything, merely annoying.
 
 -- 
 Best Regards, 
Jack LaRosa
:usflag: Central Alabama
 
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Re: Templates

[MFPA]

Hi


On Tuesday 10 March 2015 at 2:02:42 AM, in
mid:1978078585.20150310090...@gmx.net, Thomas Fernandez wrote:



 AFAIK the priority that TB! chooses is as follows
 (highest to lowest):

 AB template Folder template Account template


That is the priority given in the TB! help file; there are also 
AB Group Templates, which are not mentioned in the help file but I 
think come after AB Templates and before Folder Templates.


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Re: Templates

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Jack,

On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 17:05:36 -0500 GMT (10-Mar-15, 05:05 +0700 GMT),
Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

 Hello TBUs,

 Is there anywhere I can find an explanation of how TB chooses which
 template to use for new messages, replies etc.

 On the one hand I might want it to use a personalized AB template but
 on another I might want a more generalized folder account template.

 I searched the archives but couldn't find anything newer than 10 years
 ago searching for TEMPLATE or TEMPLATES.

AFAIK the priority that TB! chooses is as follows (highest to lowest):

AB template
Folder template
Account template

HTH.

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Re: Templates and IMAP

[Dwight Corrin]

On Sunday, August 22, 2010, 7:37:26 PM, TheLimit wrote:
 
 And you use both?
 
actually  no.  I rarely use pop at all any more. Have my IMAP account 
collect all my POP mail. 
  
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Re: Templates and IMAP

[MFPA]

Hi


On Friday 20 August 2010 at 11:19:05 PM, in
mid:993608511.20100820151...@comcast.net, TheLimit wrote:


 I went to templates in the AB a while back, and I liked
 it,  so that's what I'm doing.

I have a handful of AB templates but mainly use Account level 
templates (and steer clear of folder templates).



  The first one I did is
 fine; the rest refuse to play, period. I get a totally
 blank mail, and the F4 key doesn't work on replies. I
 can't figure it out. They used to work fine.

What's different between the first one that works and all the others 
that fail, in settings and in the templates themselves?

Is it something simple, like the tick being removed from use a 
specific template for replies [or new messages] in the AB entry?
Or having more than one AB entry for the same contact but only setting 
up the template in one of them? Or the SHIFT key being down when 
pressing F4? 



 This is an IMAP account. The POP account seems OK,
 though I haven't got very far with it. Will that go
 away too .. ?

You mean if you create messages from your POP account the AB templates 
work but if you create messages to the same contacts from your IMAP 
account the templates don't work? That sounds weird.



 What's going on? How do I fix it?

For a totally blank email to be created it looks like it 
is defaulting to a totally empty template set up *somewhere*... Check 
all address book entries for the address you are trying to set up 
templates for.

For IMAP accounts behaving differently, dunno as I only use POP.

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Re: Templates and IMAP

[Dwight Corrin]

On Sunday, August 22, 2010, 8:30:23 AM, MFPA wrote:
 
 For IMAP accounts behaving differently, dunno as I only use POP.
 
can't  imagine  how anything is different in IMAP as far as templates 
go. Never noticed it here. 
  
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Re: Templates and IMAP

[TheLimit]

On 8/22/2010 you wrote:

  
 can't  imagine  how anything is different in IMAP as far as templates
 go. Never noticed it here. 

And you use both?

These POP accounts seem fine. As I get a completely
bizarre time lag sometimes doing things in IMAP, I left
this particular problem alone for a couple of days, in
case it just needed some 'catch up' time.

That didn't help. I'm really totally stumped.

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Re: Templates - where are they stored

[Tom]

 account.cfn - account and folder templates, save message template
 account.qtn - quick templates
 print.ini - print template
 avconfig.ini - template for message about found virus

 excellent - thank you.

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Re: Templates - where are they stored

[Volker Ahrendt]

[Reply to: »Tom« · 2008-04-06 · 03:23 h (CET)]

Moin, Tom!

 if I wanted to back up my templates, where would I find them?

Templates and other account related stuff is stored in the file
Account.CFN located in the home directory of the regarding account.

Cheers!
VA

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Re: Templates - where are they stored

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Sunday, April 6, 2008, Tom wrote:


 Hello Everyone,

 if I wanted to back up my templates, where would I find them?

account.cfn - account and folder templates, save message template
account.qtn - quick templates
print.ini - print template
avconfig.ini - template for message about found virus

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Re: Templates - where are they stored

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Marek,

On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 13:17:38 +0200 GMT (06/04/2008, 18:17 +0700 GMT),
Marek Mikus wrote:

MM account.cfn - account and folder templates, save message template
MM account.qtn - quick templates
MM print.ini - print template
MM avconfig.ini - template for message about found virus

There was a complete list somewhere of all the files and what is
stored in them. I can't find in the the list FAQ
(http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBFAQ.html).

I am currently looking for the location of the common filters. Do you
know relative path and filename?

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Re: Templates - where are they stored

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Sunday, April 6, 2008, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

 I am currently looking for the location of the common filters. Do you
 know relative path and filename?

account.srb placed directly in MAIL directory.

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Re: Templates - where are they stored

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Thomas,

on  Sun, 6 Apr 2008 21:26:54 +0700GMT (06.04.2008, 16:26 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

TF There was a complete list somewhere of all the files and what is
TF stored in them. I can't find in the the list FAQ
TF (http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBFAQ.html).

TF I am currently looking for the location of the common filters. Do you
TF know relative path and filename?

I'm not sure, but I have an account.cfn file in my mail directory
outside the accounts. I tend to think that that is the one.

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Re: Templates - where are they stored

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Marek,

On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 17:16:56 +0200 GMT (06/04/2008, 22:16 +0700 GMT),
Marek Mikus wrote:

 I am currently looking for the location of the common filters. Do you
 know relative path and filename?

MM account.srb placed directly in MAIL directory.

Thanks.

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Re: Templates for a Beginner

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Mike Greenbaum  everyone else,

on 13-Jan-2007 at 17:49 you (Mike Greenbaum) wrote:

 I found the following in an article by Gerd Ewald and edited by Marck
 D. Pearlstone on How to Use Regular Expressions:

Regular Expressions can be used in templates, but you don't need
knowledge about RegExp to use templates and benefit from them.

 For example, is it possible to create a new message or a reply and
 have it show one of three different email account addresses in the
 FROM line dependent upon the person to whom it is going without my
 having to remember to change the FROM line?

Piece of cake. :-)

One possible solution would be to move your contacts into three
different address book groups, and set up individual templates for these
three groups where you add a %ACCOUNT and/or %FROM macro to set the
correct account/from address.

 For example, my emails to this mailing list often get rejected the
 first time because I forget to change the FROM line from my default
 business address to the personal address I registered here with. :)

That can be solved just the same as above - for example, I have address
book entries for the mailinglists I'm subscribed to, and I'm using
individual templates for each mailinglist.

 A direction to resources which might help me do this, if it's
 possible, would be appreciated.

You might want to check the template library on Marck's website. Some of
the templates there are quite complicated, but you can learn from them
nevertheless.

http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/samples.html
http://cgi.silverstones.com/library.php

Another good starting point is the helpfile - just search for Macros
and look at the full alphabetic list of macros. You get an idea about
the variables and commands that you can use that way.

And last not least, the TBUDP wiki http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp
has compact information about the template/macro system as well:
http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp/tiki-index.php?page=Templates


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Re: Templates for a Beginner

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Dear Michael,

@13-Jan-2007, 09:49 -0700 (13-Jan 16:49 here) Mike Greenbaum [MSG] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

MSG You have to download a DLL written by Dirk Heiser

MSG (http://www.Dirk-Heiser.de/RegExTest/RegExTest.zip)

MSG and copy it into your TB-directory.

MSG That link is no longer a good one. Does anyone know how to find this  file?

I have now updated the page and am hosting the latest version of the
file that I have.

MSG Is the above Ewald article the best tutorial on how a
MSG non-technical novice can learn to use templates?

Certainly not. It is an article on how to use regular expressions - an
advanced macro usage topic that has little to do with basic template
stuff.

MSG If not, can you suggest another?

http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/templates.html

... snip

MSG For example, is it possible to create a new message or a reply
MSG and have it show one of three different email account addresses
MSG in the FROM line dependent upon the person to whom it is going
MSG without my having to remember to change the FROM line?

Yes - by using address book templates. They kick in when they see a
particular recipient in the TO field.

MSG For example, my emails to this mailing list often get rejected
MSG the first time because I forget to change the FROM line from my
MSG default business address to the personal address I registered
MSG here with. :)

So create an address book entry for the list and have the reply
template set the from address for you.

MSG A direction to resources which might help me do this, if it's
MSG possible, would be appreciated.

The main TB FAQ on my site tells a lot of this.

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Re: Templates for a Beginner

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Mike,

On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 09:49:07 -0700GMT (13-1-2007, 17:49 , where I
live), you wrote:

MG For example, is it possible to create a new message or a reply
MG and have it show one of three different email account addresses in
MG the FROM line dependent upon the person to whom it is going
MG without my having to remember to change the FROM line?

Yes, you can do that by using address book templates, that's what I'm
doing with this list. My AB template includes The macro %From= and
also calls several quick templates.

If your subscription address is bound to an account, you can use the
%Account=. macro too.

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Re: Templates for a Beginner

[Perry Nelson]

Hi Mike,

Saturday, January 13, 2007, 11:49:07 AM, you wrote:

MG For example, is it possible to create a new message or a reply and
MG have it show one of three different email account addresses in the
MG FROM line dependent upon the person to whom it is going without my
MG having to remember to change the FROM line?

  Though this isn't the be all end all of template design, it might get
  you started.

  http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp/tiki-index.php?page=Addressbook+templates

  And while I'm mentioning this site, I'll use my response to you to ask
  the group as a whole, Is anyone still working on this site? Having
  users collaborate on documentation seemed like a good idea when it was
  first proposed back in 2004, but I'm not sure whether anyone still
  remembers it is there.

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Re: Templates for a Beginner

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Perry Nelson  everyone else,

on 13-Jan-2007 at 18:09 you (Perry Nelson) wrote:

 http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp/tiki-index.php?page=Addressbook+templates

 And while I'm mentioning this site, I'll use my response to you to ask
 the group as a whole, Is anyone still working on this site?

I just remembered it myself today and started to add some articles. ;-)

 Having users collaborate on documentation seemed like a good idea when
 it was first proposed back in 2004, but I'm not sure whether anyone
 still remembers it is there.

There should be more activity on the wiki, there's no question about it.

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Re: Templates for a Beginner

[Benedict Allen]

Howdy Alexander,

Saturday, January 13, 2007, 10:51:47 PM, Alexander wrotened:

 http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp/tiki-index.php?page=Addressbook+templates

 And while I'm mentioning this site, I'll use my response to you to ask
 the group as a whole, Is anyone still working on this site?

ASK I just remembered it myself today and started to add some articles. ;-)

 Having users collaborate on documentation seemed like a good idea when
 it was first proposed back in 2004, but I'm not sure whether anyone
 still remembers it is there.

ASK There should be more activity on the wiki, there's no question about it.

Perhaps we should add the link to the list footer if its possible.


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Re: Templates

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Tuesday, September 6, 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there a way to set up default templates for all Accounts -- instead
 of setting up the same templates one account at a time?

You can create Your template, store it into file like template.tpl for
example and in every account, enter following macro:
%INCLUDE=_path_\template.tpl where change _path_ to real path to
file.

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Re: Templates

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo z5worg,

On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 18:47:00 -0400GMT (8-9-2005, 0:47 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

Z Yes, I meant Account templates. Is there any way to set up default
Z demplates that will apply to all Accounts?

No.

Z Since one cannot have more than one Account Properties open at the
Z same time, I have to keep opening and closing two Account
Z Properties in order to copy and paste. Is there a more efficient
Z way?

Two ways to do this easier:
1)
Open the account properties and a text editor
Copy and paste all templates to the text editor
Open the next account
Copy and paste the templates into the next account
2)
Copy your new message template to a QT (quick template) and all it 'New'
Share that QT with all accounts (options tab)
Change the new message template for all accounts into this:
%QInclude('New')%-
Do likewise with the other accounts.

Especially the second way has a certain appeal to me, but as I'm using
just one account, I can't really comment on either of them.

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Re: Templates

[Chris]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 9/07/2005 8:52:38 PM
Templates mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Now does that mean that even if the QT is checked to share with all
 accounts, it doesn't really share unless the macro %QInclude('New')%- is
 typed into the other Account's Properties?

The share with other accounts option allows the QT to be used by other
accounts. If that is not checked, they do not have access to it.

QT server a slightly different purpose than account templates. QT can
be used while composing the message manually (by entering the name and
pressing Ctrl + Space) and in a few other locations. The QINCLUDE
macro lets you use QT in account templates and even in other QT.

 And if I modify the QT at a later date, the change will apply to all
 accounts that has the %QInclude('New')%- in it?

Yes. Every time a message is created, the included macro is re-read,
so any changes will take effect the next time you compose a message.

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Re: Templates

[Marten Gallagher]

 Is there a way to set up default templates for all Accounts -- instead
 of setting up the same templates one account at a time?

When you're creating the template, the Edit Template window has an Options tab.

Click that tab abd you will see a check box that says 'Share with other 
accounts'.

Check that box and away you go.

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Re: Templates

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Marten Gallagher  everyone else,

on 06-Sep-2005 at 10:21 you (Marten Gallagher) wrote:

 Is there a way to set up default templates for all Accounts -- instead
 of setting up the same templates one account at a time?

 When you're creating the template, the Edit Template window has an
 Options tab.

I don't think z5worg meant the Quick templates, but the account templates.

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Re: TEmplates for forwarding messages?

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Michael,

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:06:29 -0700 GMT (19/10/2004, 07:06 +0700 GMT),
Michael L. Wilson wrote:

MLW Anyone have any clever templates for forwarding messages?  I forward
MLW about 25 messages each morning to other people in my company, and I
MLW was just wondering if there is anything more clever than the default.

Yes, but it depends entirely on what you want to do. You can do
anything with forward templates that you can do with the other
templates, including regex if you are so inclined.

This is what I use for my office account:

Start template

Hallo %ToFName,

%Cursor

Best regards,

Thomas.
%BCC=[EMAIL PROTECTED]%-


* This is a forwarded message *
From: %OFromName %OFromAddr
To: %OToList
CC: %OCCList
BCC: %OBccList
Date: %ODateEn, %OTimeLongEn
Subject: %OSubj

===8==Original message text===
%Text
===8===End of original message text===

End template

I BCC myself in, you might not want to do that. I have put the line
This is a forwarded message before the headers, as I think it makes
it clearer to the recipient. I have also edited the original
recipients' list a bit. It's just an example, it might not suit your
needs.

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Re: TEmplates for forwarding messages?

[David Pascoe]

On Tuesday, 19 October 2004, at 17:06:29 [GMT -0700] you wrote:

MLW Anyone have any clever templates for forwarding messages?  I forward
MLW about 25 messages each morning to other people in my company, and I
MLW was just wondering if there is anything more clever than the default.

I have linked a couple of forward operations to a function key so that it
all happens really quickly - not that clever but anything that makes it
easier is a good thing.

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Re: Templates.

[Chris Weaven]

Hi Chris,

On Monday, September 13, 2004 21:09 our local time, Chris Weaven [CW]
wrote;

CW I'm planning to take TB! to work with me to access my IMAP account, but
CW the problem is, most of my QT's that run my main templates are in
CW original POP3 account that I'll not be using.

CW Is there a way to move these templates to my IMAP account so I can use
CW all my templates?

Surely someone has done this or can help me?

Otherwise I guess it's a case of copying and pasting them making sure I
get all the names right etc!?

Surely it's not that manual? :-/
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Re: Templates.

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Chris,

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:01:58 +0100GMT (14-9-2004, 22:01 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

CW Is there a way to move these templates to my IMAP account so I can use
CW all my templates?
CW Otherwise I guess it's a case of copying and pasting them making sure I
CW get all the names right etc!?

You've got it.

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Re: Templates.

[Chris Weaven]

Hi Roelof,

On Tuesday, September 14, 2004 22:30 your local time, which was 21:30 my
local time, Roelof Otten [RO] wrote;

CW Otherwise I guess it's a case of copying and pasting them making sure I
CW get all the names right etc!?

RO You've got it.

I was hoping that wasn't going to be the answer!

How unbeliveably manual for a program such as TB!

Maybe this should be a future feature request, and one high up the list
if you ask me!

Whoever created 'Filter Commander', do they fancy doing a similar thing
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Re: Templates.

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Chris,

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:33:44 +0100GMT (14-9-2004, 22:33 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

CW Otherwise I guess it's a case of copying and pasting them making sure I
CW get all the names right etc!?
RO You've got it.
CW I was hoping that wasn't going to be the answer!

Well, there are some additional ways.

You can copy your account templates by closing TB and copying your
account.cfn file to your new account. However on restarting TB you'll
find that in that case you'll need to reconfigure your other
account settings.

You can copy your quick templates by closing TB and copy the
account.qtn file to your new account. Hoewever, when you'd be tempted
to use your QTs in other accounts, you'll have the appropriate option
checked, so this is a rather useless hint.

You can copy your folder templates by closing TB and copying the
account.flb file to your new account. However, that will also copy the
same folder structure to your new account. I'm not sure about the
consequences for your IMAP account on server.

You can copy  your filter specific templates by closing TB and copying
the account.srb file to your new account. However that'll cause you to
duplicate your complete filter set to your new account.

You can copy your address book templates by copying the entire address
book to your new account, however this is rather useless, as you can
use one address book for all of your accounts.

CW How unbeliveably manual for a program such as TB!

Pray tell me, what kind of templates did you want to copy. When it's
merely the account templates you can hardly call it labour to copy and
paste them and foder templates tend to be little more specific and I
don't like them any way.

CW Maybe this should be a future feature request, and one high up the list
CW if you ask me!

There's a new feature on the way to copy account and folder settings
to other accounts/folders. The beta testers have a glance of it in one
of the previous betas.

CW Whoever created 'Filter Commander', do they fancy doing a similar thing
CW with templates?

Does filter commander support the NFS?

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Re: Templates.

[Chris Weaven]

Hi Roelof,

On Tuesday, September 14, 2004 22:57 your local time, which was 21:57 my
local time, Roelof Otten [RO] wrote;

Wow, great stuff Roelof!

RO You can copy your account templates by closing TB and copying your
RO account.cfn file to your new account. However on restarting TB you'll
RO find that in that case you'll need to reconfigure your other
RO account settings.

I may need this one.

RO You can copy your quick templates by closing TB and copy the
RO account.qtn file to your new account. Hoewever, when you'd be tempted
RO to use your QTs in other accounts, you'll have the appropriate option
RO checked, so this is a rather useless hint.

This is the one I want! Excellent!

Basically I created my QT's in my original POP account. Over time, I
have evolved from that account and am now 'working' with IMAP. Although
I still have the POP account on my home machine, I only want to take
IMAP with me. Hence, the QT's are only on the home machine, although
shared.

Hopefully, I can now take these QT's to my IMAP account.

RO foder templates tend to be little more specific and I don't like them any way.

No folder templates here, mainly address book templates.

RO There's a new feature on the way to copy account and folder settings
RO to other accounts/folders. The beta testers have a glance of it in one
RO of the previous betas.

I must've missed that one! Something to look forward to though and one
that I'm sure may well come in helpful!

RO Does filter commander support the NFS?

Never tried it to be honest, but I used it a few times on the OFS. I
would try it, but after having to rebuild all my filters for the NFS, I
don't want to do anything to upset it! I guess the common filters in NFS
takes away the need for such a program?

I've not tried common filters, so this is just a guess :-)

Thanks again for your help Roelof, superb summary of each template type
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Re: Templates.

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Chris,

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 22:19:17 +0100GMT (14-9-2004, 23:19 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

RO You can copy your account templates by closing TB and copying your
RO account.cfn file to your new account. However on restarting TB you'll
RO find that in that case you'll need to reconfigure your other
RO account settings.

CW I may need this one.

Actually that's the one I'd be most careful with. Especially when
you're transferring from POP3 to IMAP. I'd hate to think of the
possibilities for things to foul up when you're swapping the
account.cfn file with its server setting etc.

RO You can copy your quick templates by closing TB and copy the
RO account.qtn file to your new account. Hoewever, when you'd be tempted
RO to use your QTs in other accounts, you'll have the appropriate option
RO checked, so this is a rather useless hint.

CW This is the one I want! Excellent!

That's a rather safe one. Mind you that after you've copied the file,
you've lost the QTs you had previously made in your new account.

CW Thanks again for your help Roelof, superb summary of each template type
CW and more! ;-)

Mind that the file types I mentioned are only valid for v3. During v2
development the structures (and with them the file extensions) have
changed. Therefore making my summary dubious for v2 and worthless for
v1. (Only the .qtn was the same in v1)

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Re: Templates.

[Peter Fjelsten]

Chris,

On 14-09-2004 22:01, you [CW] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
CW Is there a way to move these templates to my IMAP account so I can
CW use all my templates?

CW Surely someone has done this or can help me?

In those Quick templates, tick Use for other accounts.

You can also copy the file to the new account on you disk. I forget its
name - somebody?

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Re: Templates and spaces !!

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V How can i make this, so when opening the new mail template i can start
V directly writing under this, instead off scrolling trought the template
V text.
If I've understood you correctly you need to but the macro %CURSOR in
the relevant place in your template.

Eg

On %DATE, %FROMNAME wrote on the subject %SUBJ

%QUOTE
%CURSOR


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Re: Templates and spaces !!

[VenimK]

Stuart Hemming plaatste dit op zijn scherm :
%CURSOR
Yeps, that works fine
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Re: Templates/Macros

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Dear Daniel,

@5-Mar-2004, 22:07 +0100 (05-Mar 21:07 UK time) dAniel hAhler [DH]
in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to David:


DH I'll give you a subject cleaner for now:

... and I had to tweak it:

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DH %___%REM=clean subject - by daniel hahler%%-
DH %_oldSubj=%OSubj%-
DH %Subject=%-
DH %SetPattRegExp='(?ix)\A:?
DH ( [([]+ .*? [)\]]+ \s*)* # save topic/listname
... snip

This gave a double space in the subject when there was a group name.
A simple change of the line from this:

( [([]+ .*? [)\]]+ \s*)* # save topic/listname

to this:

( [([]+ .*? [)\]]+ )*\s* # save topic/listname

fixed it.

I may replace the one in the Library with this.

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Re: Templates/Macros

[Urban]

Saturday, March 6, 2004, David Calvarese wrote:

 But I recall getting some really nice templates from the group before.
 I just don't recall from who.

U What did they do?

 Unfortunately, I don't remember.  I do know they were mostly for us in reply 
 templates.

Ok.
I dug up the latest message i had from you with The Bat! as X-Mailer,
May 2, 2003 you said on the subject Re: Restore
(mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]):



 On Thursday, May 01, 2003 at 04:20:31GMT +0100 (which was 11:20 PM where I live)
  Marck D Pearlstone wrote and made these points on the subject of Restore:
MDP @1-May-2003, 19:49 -0700 (03:49 UK time) Ken  Marilyn [KM] in
MDP mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

KM If you restore from a backup will it overwrite the folder you are
KM restoring or just add the backup data to the existing folder.

MDP I'd like to think that a restore will merge with an existing record
MDP set. I'm not certain though. Why not set up a dummy account, put
MDP half a dozen mails in there, backup, delete a few, add a couple more
MDP from a real account, restore and see what happens?

 It merges, I've had it happen a few times... At least, it looks to me
 like it merges.
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Re: Templates/Macros

[dAniel hAhler]

Hello bats,

on Sat, 6. Mar 2004 at 10:10:30 + Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

DH I'll give you a subject cleaner for now:
 ... and I had to tweak it:
 This gave a double space in the subject when there was a group name.
 A simple change of the line from this:
 ( [([]+ .*? [)\]]+ \s*)* # save topic/listname
 to this:
 ( [([]+ .*? [)\]]+ )*\s* # save topic/listname
 fixed it.

Thanks. Overlooked that.

 I may replace the one in the Library with this.

Fine. My first contribution then.. :)


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Re: Templates/Macros

[dAniel hAhler]

Hello bats,

on Sat, 6. Mar 2004 at 11:24:17 -0500 David Calvarese wrote:

dh That seems a bit complicated, but is in fact very good to maintain.
dh And instead fiddling around with different AB templates I simply have
dh to adjust my main templates a bit.
 That sounds like how I'd like to get mine set up.

Then go for it.. :)


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Re: Templates/Macros

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Dear David,

@5-Mar-2004, 15:14 -0500 (05-Mar 20:14 UK time) David Calvarese [DC]
in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

DC Does anyone have any that they would be willing to send to me?
DC I got all mine off of here before and off of a web page which
DC seems to be currently down.
DC (http://www.immer-international.de/tb_en/index.html)

DC I pretty much need ALL the cool stuff again.

What about the Macro Library in the official FAQ?!?!?

http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html

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Re: Templates/Macros

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Dear David,

@5-Mar-2004, 15:25 -0500 (05-Mar 20:25 UK time) David Calvarese [DC]
in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

DC I pretty much need ALL the cool stuff again.

MDP What about the Macro Library in the official FAQ?!?!?

MDP http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html

DC Well, I did plunder that for some of them.  But I recall getting
DC some really nice templates from the group before.  I just don't
DC recall from who.

Well, whoever published them can remember, perhaps they would be
kind enough to explain why they didn't want to share them with the
rest of the world by submitting them to the core Library?

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Re: Templates/Macros

[dAniel hAhler]

Hello bats,

on Fri, 5. Mar 2004 at 15:25:38 -0500 David Calvarese wrote:

 Well, I did plunder that for some of them.  But I recall getting
 some really nice templates from the group before.  I just don't
 recall from who.

I suggest you tell us what you search.. :)

I'll give you a subject cleaner for now:

-8
%___%REM=clean subject - by daniel hahler%%-
%_oldSubj=%OSubj%-
%Subject=%-
%SetPattRegExp='(?ix)\A:?
( [([]+ .*? [)\]]+ \s*)* # save topic/listname
(?:
  (?:
   (?:aw|antw|antwort|betrifft|fw|fwd|forw|
forward|ha|rcpt|re\^?\d*|sv|vs|wg|wtr)(?:\[\d*\])?:
  )
  |\s+
)*
(.*?)  # the subject
\s*
( 
 ([(\[]+
  ( (wa[rs][:; ] | pgp | s/mime ).*
   | fwd
  )
  [)\]]*\s*
 )*
)\z'%-
%RegExpBlindMatch='%OSubj'%-
%IF:#%SubPatt='1'###:#%SubPatt='1' #%-
Re: %SubPatt='2'%-
%___%-
%-
%REM='add note at cursor position'%-
%Cursor%IF:'%Subj''%_oldSubj':'*note: subject changed from %_oldSubj
'%-
%Quotes
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Re: Templates/Macros

[Urban]

Friday, March 5, 2004, David Calvarese wrote:

 But I recall getting some really nice templates from the group before.
 I just don't recall from who.

What did they do?
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Re: Templates/Macros

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Peter,

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 02:43:09 +0100 GMT (06/03/2004, 08:43 +0700 GMT),
Peter Ouwehand wrote:

DC Unfortunately, I don't remember.  I do know they were mostly for us
DC in reply templates.

DC IIRC, one of them took care of the Hello line for mailing lists
DC and the other fixed the to field for mailing lists.

Hi David,

If they are not in the library Marck poinbted you to, just sya what
exactly you need, and someone will help you. And the macros will be
added to the library.

I need something urgently but I don't remember what that is is not
very helpful.

 I tend to remember a 'manager in ballon' story . . .

I have the same feeling...

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Re: Templates/Macros

[dAniel hAhler]

Hello bats,

on Fri, 5. Mar 2004 at 17:55:45 -0500 rich gregory wrote:

DH I'll give you a subject cleaner for now:
 What does it do?

it cleans the subject when you reply to a mail; removes multiple Re's
and was: parts and the like at the end.

For the mailinglist functionality I have the following:


Getting mailinglist post address out of the headers with some
hardcoded for specific lists (needs Python and plugin Pyxie):
-8
%REM=get correct %TO for mailinglists%-
%PY(
from re import search

r = re.search('([EMAIL PROTECTED])', '''%OTOLIST%OCCLIST''')
if r: tb.set('To', r.group(1))
else:
  r = re.search('(?m)^List-Post: (?:mailto:)?([EMAIL PROTECTED])?\n', '''%HEADERS''')
  if r: tb.set('To', r.group(1))

)%-
%-
-8

Then comes the subject cleaner (and a script wihch gets the proper
fromaddr for myself).

For the checking if writing to a mailinglist I use the following:
-8
%REM=check if writing to mailinglist%-
%SetPattRegexp='^(.*)@'%-
%_onML=%RegExpMatch=#%-
%___%SetPattRegexp=(?ix)(tbudl|tbbeta|tbdev|tbtech)@thebat\.dutaint\.com
 |(tbot)@yahoogroups\.com
 |(otherlists)@domain\.com
%___%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%TOADDR%-
%___%SUBPATT='0'#%-
-8

After that I have a variable with the mailinglist name (the part that
matched in the parenthesis) and can use that to generate a nice
To:-headerentry fo ML posts:
-8
%REM='Add mailinglist info to %TO'%-
%IF:%_onML'':#%-
%_oldTOAddr=%TOADDR%-
%IF:'%FROMNAME''%OFROMNAME':%_newTO='%OFROMFNAME on '%-
%TO=''%TO=%_newTO%UPPER=%_onML %_oldTOAddr%-
%-
%REM='No numbered RE: on mailinglists'%-
%SINGLERE#%-
%-
%QInclude='#sig'%-
-8

There is also sth to remove myself from CC-List (if I should do a
reply-to-all):
-8
%REM=___kill %FROMADDR from CCLIST; for reply-to-all%-
%SETPATTREGEXP='(.*)?((,|^).*%FROMADDR[^\w]*)(.*)?'%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH='%CCLIST'%-
%IF:%SUBPATT='0':%CC=''%CC=%SUBPATT='1':''%-
%IF:%SUBPATT='4':%CC=%SUBPATT='4':''%-
%-
-8

In general, I have a 'message' and 'reply' Quick-template (I do not
forward often) that is simply included for my account's newmail/reply
templates and I don't have special templates for folders, AB groups or
contacts.
These QTs both include (%QInclude) a #init template (which gets my
fromaddr, the hello name, checks if the mail should be
signed/encrypted, ..) and afterwards generate the headers (xx
wrote:) and in case of reply cleans the subject, gets the proper
address, ...

That seems a bit complicated, but is in fact very good to maintain.
And instead fiddling around with different AB templates I simply have
to adjust my main templates a bit.

HTH :)


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Re: Templates

[Maurice Snellen]

On Sunday, September 21, 2003 at 11:13 (which was Sunday, September
21, 2003 at 6:13 where I am) Thomas Fernandez [TF] wrote:

TF Not from the vCard.

Quite some time ago I added a wishlist item for this to the
bugtracker:

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0001250

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Re: Templates

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Maurice,

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:47:42 +0200 GMT (23/09/2003, 21:47 +0700 GMT),
Maurice Snellen wrote:

TF Not from the vCard.

 Quite some time ago I added a wishlist item for this to the
 bugtracker:

 https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0001250

I have just seconded the wish.

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Re: Templates

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Andrew,

On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 23:19:15 +0100 GMT (21/09/2003, 05:19 +0700 GMT),
Andrew Hodgson wrote:

 1.  Is it possible to have my signature block composed using a
 template,  so  that  the  location  information  I  have put in my
 current signature is derived from my Vcard?

Not from the vCard. But if you add yourself to the AB, you can take
the details from there. Check out the %ABnnnppp macros in the
helpfile.

 2.   Is  the  best  way  to  get  the hello text correct to create
 addressbook  entries for the specific users?  What is the best way
 to work this for email list subscriptions?

I use AB templates. In the AB templates, however, I have
quicktemplates, so that for example all AB templates for mailing lists
add the sig by way of %QInclude=mlsig. If I want to change my sig, I
need to do that only in the QT called mlsig.

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   use !

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Re: Templates

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David Calvarese [DC] wrote:

DC I've got a strange little problem. For some reason, when I reply to
DC a message, I've got about 3-4 blank lines between the Hello like and
DC the quote header. Any ideas?

If you have macros in your template that only add or adjust header
information, these will take up a line in, although they don't
really add text to the message body.

To prevent their using a line, put '%-' (without the quotation
marks) at the end of the macros.

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Re: Templates for This Discussion Group?

[Roman Katzer]

Hi Michael,

On Sunday, December 8, 2002, 23:56:28, Michael S. Hyatt wrote:
 Can someone share with me templates for New messages and Replies that
 are appropriate for this list?


My New Message template looks as follows:
 %Cursor
 %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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 %wrapped=%qinclude=cookie

my Reply template is
 %Cursor
 On %ODateen, %OTimeLong, %TONAME wrote:
 %Quotes
 %SINGLERE
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 %wrapped=%qinclude=cookie

Set your Identity accordingly.

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Re: Templates - Sharing

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In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Francis Mendez [FM] wrote:'

FM I have set up some templates like my signature below. I would
FM like to set these up for other bat users. is there a way to
FM share these or copy them without simply emailing them to all the
FM users?

Not that I know of. Unfortunately, the manual route is the only way.

moderator

Your signature is inappropriately long for this list. Please keep it
down to no more than 6 lines. In this way, bandwidth isn't wasted
and also, readers don't get frustrated or annoyed with it.

Be sure to have a look over the list information page, the link for
which is at the foot of each message from this list. There are very
good reasons for all the list rules. I hope that you'll take them in
good spirit. :)

Thanks.

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Re: Templates - Sharing

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Francis,

On Sat, 16 Nov 2002 23:37:47 -0500 GMT (17/11/02, 11:37 +0700 GMT),
Francis Mendez wrote:

 I have set up some templates like my signature below.  I would like to 
 set these up for other bat users. is there a way to share these or copy 
 them without simply emailing them to all the users? 

I hope not. Your sig is about 90% of your whole message. And doesn't
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Re: Templates - Sharing

[John De Hoog]

Thomas Fernandez wrote...
 I have set up some templates like my signature below.  I would like to 
 set these up for other bat users. is there a way to share these or copy 
 them without simply emailing them to all the users? 

I hope not. Your sig is about 90% of your whole message. And doesn't
even have a sig delimiter.

Not to mention that the message still has the following headers from the 
thread it stole, only minutes after a warning about that very practice.

**In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
**References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Templates question - I have version 1.61

[Harriekins]

 On Tuesday, September 17, 2002 at 08:42:14GMT -0500 (which was 8:42 AM where I live) 
Joseph N. wrote:

 One way to address those global templates is to leave just the
 %CURSOR expression in place, or to leave that plus some short line,
 if you like, identifying the person to whom you're replying or to
 the date on which his/her email came in.

Thanks, JN, I find as I become more familiar with the Bat, I am changing my mind
as to what I want and don't want!  This reply and Jan's earlier advice
was helpful to meI will experiment with the %CURSOR expression
today.

One thing I would like to set up, with two close friends I email a
lot, is to have a template where my reply begins above the heading
of the mail I am responding to, in other words, like in Outlook
Express where it automatically shows the below fields and your typing
begins *above* that.  Can anyone help?  Perhaps even the cursor
expression does this, I will find out!

From:
Sent:
To:
Cc:
Subject:

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Re: Templates question - I have version 1.61

[Thomas F.]

Hello Harriekins,

On Tue, 17 Sep 2002 09:04:27 -0500 GMT (17/09/02, 21:04 +0700 GMT),
Harriekins wrote:

H One thing I would like to set up, with two close friends I email a
H lot, is to have a template where my reply begins above the
H heading of the mail I am responding to, in other words, like in
H Outlook Express where it automatically shows the below fields and
H your typing begins *above* that. Can anyone help? Perhaps even the
H cursor expression does this, I will find out!

I don't know Outlook express, but I believe you want to do something
that most people frown upon:

  Dear Blabla;

  (your message)

  Greeting.

  - Original Message -
  
  From:
  To:
  Subject:

  (total original message)

It is possible. I go step=-by-step, so it is easy to follow:

Without the header information, you can just use the following
template:

   %Cursor
   %Text

But that is not so good, as the original text will not be marked as
quoted (BIG disadvantage of Outlook). Better is this:

   %Cursor
   %Quotes

Now, you can put the full header info in there:

%Cursor

From:%OFrom
To:  %OTo
Subject: %OSubject

%Quotes

But there is really no need to follow Outlook's conventions any more.
You are now dealing with a powerful email-client that can do better -
much better. Use your creativity and don't get stuck in old ways,
because the old MUA couldn't do anything else. Try yourself out and
find that life is much more than the narrow path of Outlook. Dare do
something different, something new, something creative! :-)

And find out why it is even more practical too, to not just top-reply
and bottom-quote, but to use inline-quoting. You will see that people
on this list use mostly inline-quoting, because this way, threads are
easier to follow. Welcome to the world of fully-functional email.

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Re: Templates question - I have version 1.61

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Joseph!

On Tuesday, September 17, 2002 at 4:38:18 PM you wrote:

 If you want all your replies like that, do it in your global 'reply'
 template.

And don't do it for this list.




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Re: Templates question - I have version 1.61

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@17-Sep-2002, 09:38 -0500 (15:38 UK time) Joseph N. [JN] in
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H ... my reply begins above the heading of the mail I am
H responding to, in other words, like in Outlook Express

JN Put the %CURSOR expression above the %QUOTES expression.

JN If you want all your replies like that, do it in your global
JN 'reply' template.  ...

... but please (Harriekins) don't use that reply convention when
writing to this list. Although it may not be against the list rules
to do so, it nearly always results in over quoting (quoting
everything without trimming) and angers many readers here.

I say this, not as a moderator's edict but tipping the moderator's
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[Harriekins]

 On Tuesday, September 17, 2002 at 15:52:59GMT +0100 (which was 9:52 AM where I live) 
Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

 ... but please (Harriekins) don't use that reply convention when
 writing to this list.

No worries, all, I understand that.

Harriekins

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Re: Templates

[Roelof Otten]

Hello Paul,

On Sat, 11 May 2002 15:00:09 -0400GMT (11-5-02, 21:00 +0200GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

PC I made an AB template that says:
PC Hi Jon,

PC How do you get the email to use the AB template, or what am I doing
PC wrong?

If you've made an AB template, that should be used. If it isn't you
might have two AB entries with the same address.

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On Saturday, May 11, 2002, 4:01 PM, you wrote:


PC I made an AB template that says:
PC Hi Jon,

PC How do you get the email to use the AB template, or what am I doing
PC wrong?

RO If you've made an AB template, that should be used. If it isn't you
RO might have two AB entries with the same address.

well, I did have that name as part of a group, but I see ONE thing I
did wrong. double-clicking the name is doing a NEW MESSAGE. I was
changing the REPLY template. I think I'm getting it now.



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Re: Templates for Groups

[Roelof Otten]

Hello joeo,

On Sat, 04 May 2002 20:26:02 -0400GMT (5-5-02, 2:26 +0200GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

j I have checked for multiple entries and there are none.

j When  I  create a NEW message, the group-name template IS used. I just
j have the problem with the Forward template!

I suppose  you have created an AB group forwarding template and don't
have defined a personal forwarding template? That ought to work and if
it doesn't I'm somewhat at a loss.

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Re: Templates for Groups

[Roelof Otten]

Hello joeo,

On Sat, 04 May 2002 14:34:09 -0400GMT (4-5-02, 20:34 +0200GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

j Yes,  there  is  a  forwarding  template for the members of the group,
j however,  the  members  template  is  not used either. It is using the
j account/folder  template.  If  I  delete the account/folder forwarding
j template,  then  it  will  not use ANY forwarding template that I have
j defined even the individual AB ones.

In that case I think that you've got multiple entries in the address
book with the same address. Otherwise TB gives preference to the
templates in this order: personal, address book group, folder,
account.
When you've got two entries with the same address in the address book
it's unpredictable what template TB will use. So check for double
entries. (It's possible for one entry to be part of multiple groups,
so even when you want someone to be part of several groups, he only
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Re: Templates in The Bat! 1.60c

[Clive Taylor]

25 April 2002, 20:03, you wrote:

MDP Actually, the coverage of Templates in the Help is pretty good, even
MDP if I say so myself. There's a good basic explanation under Templates
MDP General Concept and a lot of detail in the various break downs with
MDP examples and links to the macro sections. Then there's the
MDP essay...

My point, made somewhat light-heartedly, was perhaps that there is a lack of clarity
and explanation in some areas of the help file and it's this
inconsistency of coverage of topics that make it difficult to get
information about the prog's features at times. To use a small example that's
been aired here recently - SmartBat.

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@26 April 2002, 07:52:09 +0100 Clive Taylor wrote in
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 ... To use a small example that's been aired here recently -
 SmartBat.

... a new feature that hasn't yet been covered, admittedly, although
40 new topics were added for the latest release. Yes there are holes,
and omissions but they are being covered bit by bit and the help file
is already hugely improved over what it was this time last year.

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Re: Templates in The Bat! 1.60c

[Joseph N.]

There are three ways to do what you have asked; it is not clear to me
which is really what you have in mind.

If you want one generic message for all email within a particular
category, e.g., business, then go into Options/Quick Templates, and
create or paste the content.  Give it a name you'll remember, and
whenever you write a letter that is, say, for business, you can type
the name of the quick template and press Ctrl+SpaceBar to reproduce
the form content.

If you want a message that will always go to a particular person or
group of people, then put them in your address book.  Open the contact
card for each person, go to the tab that is appropriate (New Message,
Reply, etc.) and type or paste the content you want to reproduce.  Be
sure to check the box for using the template.  Then, each time you
list that person as an addressee in a new message, or reply, or
whatever tab you filled in, the content will appear when you click
into the body of the message editor.

If you want *always* to include particular text in a new message, or
reply, or whatever, then go into Account/Properties, and go to the
Templates line.  Open it up, and there will be places for new,
replies, etc., where you can type or paste content, and place it
appropriately with respect to the cursor and other information.

In all of these places, there are also options to include some
information automatically, like the date or specific text.  Those are
the macros.  You can use them in simple ways that are supplied, or
in very complicated ways that are not documented but which people on
this list can help explain.

HTH.

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 Fré van Limpt wrote on Thursday, April 25, 2002:


 Hello udlers,

 I'm new in TB! 1.60c and quite impressed by the detailed
 discussions you have in TBUDL. Could anyone explain this novice
 how to make a series of *different* new messages (one to
 friends, another one to business relations, et cetera) and how
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Re: Templates in The Bat! 1.60c

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Fré!

On Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 5:02:38 PM you wrote:

 I'm new in TB! 1.60c and quite impressed by the detailed
 discussions you have in TBUDL. Could anyone explain this novice
 how to make a series of *different* new messages (one to
 friends, another one to business relations, et cetera) and how
 to store them somewhere?

There are different ways to achieve this.

1. Account templates (see under Account/Properties/Templates)
2. Folder Templates (Folder/Properties/Templates)
3. Address Book Templates (Properties for any contact or group you
entered)
4. Quick Templates (Ctrl+Shift+q)

The first category should be used for those messages you don't need
specific info or formatting for, that is, Account Templates are the
most general ones.

Folder Templates can be quite useful if you need quite general (but
more specific than AccTemp) templates for certain groups of messages
originating from different sources but linked by something (e.g.
business vs. private). But beware, the take precedence over AccTemp,
and if you are in the wrong folder, you may sent out a message with
the wrong template.

AB Templates are very good if you create them for every group or
contact you have. You can thus create individual messages for every
single person (even address) you have listed in your AB. Combined with
the last category you'll get a very versatile and easy to use system
of individual messages.

QTs can be used to create special templates for messages that are not
that often and may be evoked manually. They can also be inserted into
other templates. This is particularly handy if you have lots of
contacts but only a few different looking message templates for them.

I use about a dozen standard templates for new messages, replies,
forwarding in two different languages and two categories each (business
and private in German and English). Together with two QTs for my
signature (one formal, one less formal) that makes much less than 20
templates I may have to change, not dozens or even hundreds.

For details search help for the above mentioned templates, and look
under macros. They are a powerful tool to make message creation
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Re: Templates in The Bat! 1.60c

[Clive Taylor]

25 April 2002, 16:27, you wrote:

JN There are three ways to do what you have asked; it is not clear to me
JN which is really what you have in mind.

Joseph

That was one of the clearest responses I've seen for a long time. You
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Re: Templates in The Bat! 1.60c

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On 25 April 2002 at 17:54:53 +0100 (which was 17:54 where I live) Clive
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CT That was one of the clearest responses I've seen for a long time. You
CT wouldn't like to write the rest of TB's help file, would you? :)

and put Marck out of a job :)

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Re: Templates in The Bat! 1.60c

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@25 April 2002, 19:39:29 +0100 David Elliott wrote in
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CT That was one of the clearest responses I've seen for a long time.
CT You wouldn't like to write the rest of TB's help file, would you?
CT :)

 and put Marck out of a job :)

Actually, the coverage of Templates in the Help is pretty good, even
if I say so myself. There's a good basic explanation under Templates
General Concept and a lot of detail in the various break downs with
examples and links to the macro sections. Then there's the essay on
them at the FAQ site, which is superb. I don't think that the original
questioner looked... or possibly didn't get that term Templates
applied to the issue.

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Re: Templates according to senders email

[Roelof Otten]

Hello Jon,

On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 19:43:42 +0100GMT (3-4-02, 20:43 +0100GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

JL   Is it possible to have a different Reply template depending on which
JL   website one of my enquiries came in on?

Yep.

JL   For example, I might get a reply from:
JL   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JL   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JL   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JL   The first two require a different Reply template to the last one.

When you're using automatic replies, you can define a template in the
filter.
When you're replying manually you've got to filter messages from the
two sites to two folders and define folder reply templates.

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Re: Templates

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Stefan,

On Monday, January 21, 2002 at 5:54:26 PM you wrote (at least in part):

SK Hoi

SK Not exactly.. i want to change the sig...and there
SK just the The answer is 42. (Adams 1980) to
SK another wise slogan ;)

Maybe you want to use the '%COOKIE' macro which automatically choose
one tag line randomly (at most it's randomly *G*)?
See German help file for further reference ... syntax is either

%COOKIE

if you have all cookie lines in account properties

or

%COOKIE=filename

if you want it to choose one line from a file located on your hard
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Re: Templates

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Stefan!

On Monday, January 21, 2002 at 5:54:26 PM you wrote:

 Not exactly.. i want to change the sig...and there
 just the The answer is 42. (Adams 1980) to
 another wise slogan ;)

Randomly? Then the answer was - I think - already given: Use a text
file, enter every tag line you want in *one* line. In your template
insert the line %WRAPPED='%COOKIE=Path\file name'.

You can also use TB!'s built-in cookie facility.


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Re: Templates

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Stefan,

On Sunday, January 20, 2002 at 5:20:03 PM you wrote (at least in
part):

SK Is it possible to change them for each outgoing
SK mail automaticly?

Depends on 'what' kind of automatic you're talking about.
What's the final goal you want to achieve?

Entering system time of mail writing?
Random signature line?
Several different templates for different recipients?
Automatic controlling of coffee machine, freezer or television,
depending on when you write the mail?

If you could give us some more details we'll surely be able to find a
solution, or at least some work arounds :-)
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Re: Templates

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Hi Stefan,

On 20 January 2002 at 17:20:03 +0100 (which was 16:20 where I live)
Stefan Kosmal wrote to The Bat and made these points:

 Is it possible to change them for each outgoing mail automaticly?

By using the address book, you can vary templates for each
destination. Is that what you're asking?

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Re: Templates

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hello Luc.

At 7:35 PM on Friday, January 11, 2002 you wrote the
following about [Templates]

Luc [...] I was wondering if those templates could be
Luc created as QT, so if i have to change something in
Luc a template, i can do it in the QT and there fore
Luc the changes are applied immediately to the
Luc contacts [/...]

  That's *definitely* the way to do it because all you
  have to do is to make the one change in the QT  it
  affects any msg that uses a template that includes
  that particular QT.

  In your template you 'include' (or call) your QTs by
  using %QINCLUDE in the format %QINCLUDE=QT name.
  Ultimately, IMO, all templates should be made up of
  $INCLUDEs.

  Works for me, anyway.

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Re: Templates

[Raj]

Luc,

On Sat, 12 Jan 2002, at 01:35:26 [GMT +0100] (which was 6:05 AM where I live) you
wrote:

L I have set up a few templates i use for a lot of my contacts.
L   I was wondering if those templates could be created as QT, so if i
L   have to change something in a template, i can do it in the QT and
L   there fore the changes are applied immediately to the contacts kin my
L   AB.

Yes you can do so. You will then discover the power of QT's

Set  up  the  templates  as  QT  and  then  in the AB entry or Folder or Account
templates put

%Qinclude=Template HandleName

You can incl multiple QT's

Check out the FAQ page for examples.

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Re: templates

[David van Zuijlekom]

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Hello Dan,

On Tuesday, July 10, 2001 at 12:11:39 -0700, Dan Kalafus [DK] wrote
concerning 'templates':

DK Is there a way to use the same template settings for several
DK accounts, without cutting and pasting each one?

It is possible with quick templates. When you tick 'share with other
accounts' you can use the quick template across all accounts.

If you mean the new message, reply and forward templates I don't think
there is a way to share it over all accounts.

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Re: templates

[azrael]

Hello Allie;

Wednesday, April 18, 2001, 12:37:22 PM, you kindly wrote:

Tmtdc Don't dare? vbg They bark way more than they actually bite,
Tmtdc believe me.
Tmtdc These macros are just requests made by you to output portions of
Tmtdc text or
Tmtdc information that's in the message to which you're replying. It will
Tmtdc also
Tmtdc output system information for you such as the date and time (%Date,
Tmtdc %Time)
Tmtdc or other useful information. They were designed to prevent
Tmtdc repetitive
Tmtdc actions.

I've modified a couple to no good effect. Are templates/macro's a sort
of .bat file?

Tmtdc Another related macro is %Text. This one will output the
Tmtdc entire text of the message without quoting it.

   Will that mean plain rather than colored text with initials prefacing
the text?
Tmtdc The best way to understand these macros is to experiment with
them.
Tmtdc There's an article in the TB! FAQ which outlines the template structure
Tmtdc http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/templates.html. It will also give you
Tmtdc an idea of what these templates and macros can do for you. Experiment away
Tmtdc . :=)

  I read it this morning. I need to practice but I'm
intellectually impaired by the onset of a cold. I'll lurk a bit till I get
my wits back.

Tmtdc Threading is simply the process of grouping together messages

Tmtdc + - Your message
Tmtdc  |
Tmtdc   - - My message

Tmtdc My message will appear chronologically after yours if you also
Tmtdc thread in descending order based on received time.

Tmtdc The only way to truly grasp this is to see threading in action. I suggest
Tmtdc that you switch to receiving TBUDL messages individually and then switch
Tmtdc to threading by references, with sorting by received time in descending
Tmtdc order.

  I'd considered that but the traffic would defeat or at least impair all
other purposes of The Bat as my all purpose email client.I don't
anticipate heavy participation in this group beyond becoming able to
operate basic functions of the client. I have neither purpose for nor
interest in the more powerful and esoteric functions of The Bat.


 a How can I best take your comments out
of my digest, quote them and then a reply still keeping the integrity of
the threading?

Tmtdc Hopefully, you'll realize after my explanation that this cannot be
done.
Tmtdc Since when you reply to the digest message, you're not replying directly
Tmtdc to me. TB! will therefore not be able to generate that critical piece of
Tmtdc header information:

 I accept this but don't "see" it. It links our messages by numerical
identity. That part I understand. The actual mechanism in action I can't
see.

Nick A. helped me get formatted so I trust my setting are good ones.
However this hasn't stopped a tendency for the message to scroll out of
sight to my left when I move the cursor to the vertical scrolling
controls. No horizontal scroll is showing. I'd like to lock the Edit Mail
Message screen and prevent this. AH; 8- )  Store Window
Position?

  Thanks Allie,

   ./michael

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Re: templates

[A Curtis Martin]

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On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:35:06 -0400, azrael wrote these comments:

a I've modified a couple to no good effect. Are templates/macro's a sort
a of .bat file?

In a sense, yes. You're really telling TB! through these templates and
macros what to automatically do with the new, reply or forward message
that you generate.

aWill that mean plain rather than colored text with initials
a prefacing the text?

It means unquoted text. Your text above is quoted because each line is
preceded by 'a '. OTOH, my text isn't quoted. The %Text macro will just
output the original message body as is, without quoting it.

a  I accept this but don't "see" it. It links our messages by numerical
a identity. That part I understand. The actual mechanism in action I
a can't see.

Say your message id is 'azrael123'.

I reply to your message and you have threading by references enabled. TB!
examines my message headers where it will see the following two lines:

Message ID: allie567

In-Reply-To: azrael123

TB! will link our two messages together since your message ID is the ID of
the message I'm replying to.

Another message comes your way and this one has the following lines:

Message ID: jasper890

In-Reply-To: azrael123

Here TB! again realises that the message is a direct reply to yours and
links them together in the thread. The thread will look as below:

+ - Azrael
  |
  |
   -- Allie
  |
  |
   -- Jasper

Say that yet another person writes and the headers contain:

Message ID: Mutt4455
In-Reply-To: allie567

TB! will detect that this is a reply to my message since my message ID is
the one stated in the headers as the message being replied to. The thread
will now look like this.

+ - Arael
  |
  |
   -- Allie
  | |
  |  -- Mutt
   -- Jasper

Get the drift? :=)

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RE: Templates

[Josh Rogers]

Hi
%TOFNAME,%SETPATTREGEXP="(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0
,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%HEADERS" On%SUBPATT="2", at
%SUBPATT="3" [GMT%SUBPATT="4"] you wrote:

is one of the items on the page.  I'm having some trouble following it.  I'm
afraid I need a more rudimentary explination.

I need to know what:

%SETPATTREGEXP
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH

do?

Please refer to prior message I sent to start a new thread.  It gives an
example of one of the things I want to do.

-josh

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To: Josh Rogers
Subject: Re:Templates


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Hello Josh,

Maybe you should tell us what you would like to do and we can see if
templates and/or regular expressions are what you need.  Have you looked at
the regular expression samples on the unofficial The Bat! web site?

Here is that sites address: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/FAQ.html

Friday, January 26, 2001, 7:28:14 PM, you wrote:

JR Where can I see some sample Templates?  I'd like to see a sample of how
JR Regular Expressions are used.  I think they are what I need, but the
help
JR file doesn't use the most clear english.  A sample would help.

JR -Josh




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