Jen,
I have suggested the same thing to the Executive Council. I think
there are several deceased SWR members that would be good candidates to
recognize by naming the award after one of them.
I was quite impressed by this at TCR and was planning to make a motion at the
next meeting
I recommend naming the award for legendary Tom Meador!
Harvey
From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Bill
Bentley
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 8:30 AM
To: Steve Peerman
Cc: s...@caver.net; jen .
Subject: Re: [SWR] PBSS member Kayde Hill wins Chuck
Great idea Harvey!
I know many of us remember Tom with admiration and respect! Big shoes to fill…
Regards,
John
From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Harvey
DuChene
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 9:08 AM
To: 'Bill Bentley'; 'Steve Peerman'
Cc:
texascavers Digest 23 Oct 2013 19:49:00 - Issue 1873
Topics (messages 22962 through 22965):
Re: Poison-ivy
22962 by: Louise Power
22963 by: Missy Singleton
22965 by: Stefan Creaser
Etiquette for Alzheimer's victims
22964 by: BMorgan994.aol.com
From: missie...@hotmail.com
To: stefan.crea...@arm.com
CC: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 15:12:26 -0500
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy
As much as I once loved the caving community; I'm out. I will now gladly ask
to be taken off the mailing list. I have
...I'm fed up of deleting posts about Poison insert_plant_here.
Another great TCR in the bag. I hope y'all liked the food, and the fast service
provided by the dedicated Aggie crew under Laura's guidance.
I want to thank:
Don Arburn, for letting me run this (again). And for giving me the cash
texascavers Digest 23 Oct 2013 23:16:03 - Issue 1874
Topics (messages 22966 through 22972):
Re: Poison-ivy
22966 by: Stefan Creaser
22967 by: Missy Singleton
22969 by: Jon Cradit
22971 by: Steve Keselik
22972 by: jerryatkin.aol.com
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A technical point or two: Reaction to Poison Ivy, etc, is a chemical
contact condition, not an allergy.
And I'm not sure that we can describe resistance to it as an 'immunity'
since it's not a disease.
I'm a little unsure about Tom's suggestion to use 'mineral spirits' which
is a carcinogenic
If you don't like the idea of mineral spirits on your skin then just use
rubbing alcohol. Works almost as good. Or buy over priced deodorized mineral
spirits(tecnu). Probably just as carcinogenic as canned paint thinners. Any of
that is way safer than the doctor. I wouldn't want the shot that's
I recently went to Poison Ivy pit in Bexar County. It lives up to its name. The
sinkhole was hidden by massive vines. Completely covering it save one port hole
about 20 diameter. It was the only way in so I rappelled thru that and saw
that I could have walked into the sink hole from the other
I have to say that my instincts tell me that solvents seem like a bad idea in
this case. Working in the lab if there was any kind of chemical splatter or
spill it was always soap and water to wash off the area. Solvents can enable
the offender (whatever it is) to penetrate the skin. So using
When affected, I have found -tremendous- relief of the lesions by simply
spraying them with a jet of very hot water. The sensation is much more
gratifying than scratching but also completely stops the itching, no meds
needed after. Hot as I could stand, ONLY on the wound. Strange but true.
All the inactive ingredients can be considered solvents if they are liquids.
At 10/23/2013 10:51 AM -0700, Louise Power wrote:
Here is what the Tech-Nu label says. I'm not a
chemist, so which one of these ingredients is a solvent?
Active ingredient:
Grindelia robusta 3X - Purpose:anti-itch
Can I please be removed from the Poison ivy thread?
Thank you,
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:53:38 -0400
To: power_lou...@hotmail.com; donarb...@mac.com; texascavers@texascavers.com
From: pw...@dca.net
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy
All the inactive ingredients can be considered solvents
Guys, trim your replies. You are replying to BOTH the senders AND the list. We
get two emails from you. Please.
Sent cellularly.
-Don
On Oct 23, 2013, at 12:53 PM, Phil Winkler pw...@dca.net wrote:
All the inactive ingredients can be considered solvents if they are liquids.
At 10/23/2013
I don't think it's possible for anyone other than the moderator to modify the
list. So it wouldn't be possible for any one other than him to take you off the
list. And you'd probably have to be taken off the list in general. I don't
think he'd do it for one thread. Do what I do, just delete.
YOU ARE THE MESSENGER RIGHT NOW. PLEASE STOP EMAILING ME ABOUT THIS!
From: power_lou...@hotmail.com
To: missie...@hotmail.com; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 12:16:53 -0700
I don't think it's possible for anyone other than the
Missy,
One can remove themselves from a thread, you don't need the Admin to do it for
you:
Email a blank message to:
texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.commailto:texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com
From: Missy Singleton [mailto:missie...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013
John,
I contacted Missy (through Facebook) and collectivly apologized for the rude
behavior.. I got her the contact information for Charles Goldsmith, so she can
be properly removed...
I don't think some even consider what they do. Or maybe don't care...
Seems like your reply shut it all
I agree with Jon. The comments directed to Missy were entirely uncalled for.
Jerry.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 23, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Jon Cradit jcra...@edwardsaquifer.org wrote:
This seems to me to be symptomatic of what our society is increasingly
accepting as the norm or acceptable
I never had the pleasure of meeting Tom but have heard many great things about
him. One thing I haven't heard is about him focusing on mentoring new cavers.
If SWR will be developing an award for new cavers, then it should be named for
someone whose focus was new cavers, as in the case of Chuck
George,
While I don't think that is the first thing one would think about
regarding Tom, I recall him being open and agreeable with all cavers. I got to
know Tom as a fairly new caver and went caving with him when I was a relative
novice. Kathy's first trip up 3 mile hill was in Tom's
So what happened to the Cave History Collection? Tom collected NM cave
history as well as TX caves. Carl Kunath is probably a better representative of
Texas Cave History, but perhaps Tom was the better known NM cave historian.
- Pete
On Oct 23, 2013, at 11:49 AM, James Jasek wrote:
Tom was
I found this University archive of his documents when I searched for Tom
Meadors name http://www.lib.utexas.edu/taro/utcah/02558/cah-02558.html.
The SWR 50th book
http://www.caves.org/region/swr/50th/50th%20Anniv.%20SWR%20book.pdf had a nice
section on caver memoriams for those of us who
Thanks Jen!
Regards,
John
From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of jen
.
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 1:05 PM
To: caverp...@gmail.com
Cc: New Mexico Cavers
Subject: Re: [SWR] Tom Meador Award
I found this University archive of his documents when
texascavers Digest 23 Oct 2013 17:53:32 - Issue 1871
Topics (messages 22952 through 22957):
Re: Poison-ivy
22952 by: Don Arburn
22956 by: Louise Power
22957 by: Phil Winkler
Poison ivy at Paradise Canyon
22953 by: Diana Tomchick
Re: Poison-ivy and Karst
I remember being very sensitive to poison ivy in my early teens growing up in
northern Brown county. All it had to be was springtime and I would get itchy
welts on my ankles and wrists. My parents found some poison ivy extract that
came in a dropper bottle. I would take 1 drop a day for a
take a look at these pics:
http://img.webmd.com/dtmcms/live/webmd/consumer_assets/site_images/media/medical/hw/hwkb17_017_18_19.jpg
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 23:05:55 -0500
From: gi...@att.net
To: dirt...@comcast.net
CC: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy and
From: David Jackson jacksond...@cavesim.com
Date: October 22, 2013, 11:32:18 PM CDT
To: David Jackson jacksond...@cavesim.com
Subject: Thank you for supporting CaveSim at Texas Cavers Reunion 2013
Hi All,
Thank you for donating to bring CaveSim to the Texas Cavers Reunion!
Everyone we
FYI, the DFW Grotto was one of the sponsors of CaveSim.
Diana
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Diana R. Tomchick
Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biophysics
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214A
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
Email:
It seems to me that the people who came down with cases of poison ivy
dermatitis were people who cut and gathered firewood for the hot tub, sauna and
campfires. Good thing that it seems there was no poison ivy that got burned in
the campfires, otherwise we'd have people in worse shape from
texascavers Digest 23 Oct 2013 16:06:44 - Issue 1870
Topics (messages 22943 through 22951):
Poison Ivey and Climate Change
22943 by: Josh Rubinstein
Re: Poison-ivy and Karst
22944 by: Gill Edigar
22945 by: Phil Winkler
22949 by: Bob West
Re: Poison-ivy
The higher CO2 is not only promoting an abundance of Poison Ivey but making
it more potent. See
http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/features/climate-change-brings-super-poison-ivy
After
a lifetime in the woods, it is only in the last decade that I have been
effected by the toxin.
Somebody was saying they got poison oak in Texas, and that triggered a
memory, so I looked it up. Poison oak is only found west of the Rocky
Mountains. To quote Wikipedia
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxicodendron_radicans) Poison ivy grows
throughout much of North America, including the
texascavers Digest 23 Oct 2013 13:27:21 - Issue 1869
Topics (messages 22932 through 22942):
DFW Grotto member Jake McLeod wins Chuck Stuehm Award
22932 by: Speleosteele.aol.com
PBSS member Kayde Hill wins Chuck Stuehm Award at theTexas Cavers Reunion
22933 by: Bill Bentley
Can I please be removed from the Poison ivy thread?
Guys, trim your replies. You are replying to BOTH the senders AND the
list. We get two emails from you. Please.
We have had this discussion before. What part of do not use the reply
button don't you get? It is bad enough to babble
Y'all sound like a bunch of old women sitting around the kitchen swapping
folk tales.
Many members of the Anacardiaceae produce Urushiol which sometimes causes
contact dermatitis among those who are allergic to the substance. It is not
a contact poison, it is an allergen, the response to
In a message dated 10/23/2013 1:21:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
power_lou...@hotmail.com writes:
I just have one question, why did they want to put a nature trail in an
area with such toxic vegetation?
Cuz it was a cruise ship destination! Originally known at Little Stirrup
key it was
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