[Texascavers] Road-trip tip

2018-07-19 Thread David
Here is a scenic side trip on the drive to the NSS Convention that does not appear to be too far off course https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98KWt19f0vk I would like to go on a short scenic drive like that ( if it were near Houston ). D.L. ___

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] NSS Publication / scam?

2018-07-19 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Diana, current members update this yearly when they renew, or if they renew multiple years, then when it expires. If someone chose to let their membership lapse, then this is unsolicited contact. I understand the reason for this, but it was not handled properly, in my opinion and I certainly

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] NSS Publication / scam?

2018-07-19 Thread Diana Tomchick
​Hi, The NSS, like lots of volunteer organizations, needs to know who are the people that are interested in receiving information from the organization. Since many people change email addresses and phone numbers, after a few years, the database is no longer current. This is an effective way

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] NSS Publication / scam?

2018-07-19 Thread Michael Gibbons
I phoned in. I authorized use of name, phone number and email. Asked if I wanted a directory, I said no. It wasn't a hard sell and they weren't after ant information that I seem sensitive. I think it's innocuous and that they are doing just what they were hired to do. Compile a directory and

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] NSS Publication / scam?

2018-07-19 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Gotcha, thanks for the expanation Stephen. I'd be in favor of a way to opt out of such things in the future. I get enough spam calls and email as it is, and basically, if I don't know the number, I don't answer and let VM take care of it. So, if they try to call me, they are going to get my

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] NSS Publication / scam?

2018-07-19 Thread Stephen Fleming
"Do not call' doesn't apply, since the contractor presumably is not the one making the calls. However, regarding the list, there is an exemption for non-profits. But, while the contractor is working for a non-profit, the company itself is a for-profit entity. It would be an interesting

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] NSS Publication / scam?

2018-07-19 Thread Geary Schindel
I think they will contact you and you’ll be able to update your information on line. Geary From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Barb Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 4:43 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: Allen Wright ; SWR Cavers Group ; Lee Skinner ;

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] NSS Publication / scam?

2018-07-19 Thread Barb
That's so strange because when I called for Don and myself, all they did was verify phone and email and mailing address basically. No request for photo or request to purchase stuff. Guess I got off easy. Barb Coons Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 19, 2018, at 4:04 PM, Stephen Fleming wrote: > >

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] NSS Publication / scam?

2018-07-19 Thread Charles Goldsmith
I agree, this was not handled very well at all. Since we did not agree to this, how does this fall under the Do-Not-Call registry, from the FCC's perspective? On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 4:04 PM Stephen Fleming wrote: > It is a marketing thing authorized by the NSS. > > The NSS says it is costing

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] NSS Publication / scam?

2018-07-19 Thread Stephen Fleming
It is a marketing thing authorized by the NSS. The NSS says it is costing the organization no money and the contractor funds the effort from sales of the rather pricey merchandise. However, the NSS will get a cut of proceeds: "This is NOT a significant fund raiser for NSS, thought [sic] we

[Texascavers] sort of NSS Convention related

2018-07-19 Thread David
just another rant from David Locklear hit delete button now please The Howdy Party is just 12 days away or less. I have been to my fair share of Howdy Party's and they are lots of fun. Usually good food, and good music along with a large assortment or variety of cavers who are in a