I agree, this was not handled very well at all.  Since we did not agree to
this, how does this fall under the Do-Not-Call registry, from the FCC's
perspective?


On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 4:04 PM Stephen Fleming <[email protected]> wrote:

> It is a marketing thing authorized by the NSS.
>
> The NSS says it is costing the organization no money and the contractor
> funds the effort from sales of the rather pricey merchandise.
>
> However, the NSS will get a cut of proceeds: "This is NOT a significant
> fund raiser for NSS, thought [sic] we do get a small commission on sales."
>
> The percentage of return is not stated, and the postcard is disingenuous
> in not revealing this financial arrangement. You have to search the NSS
> website to find that tidbit.
>
> Regardless, I won't be calling or participating; the NSS knows how to
> contact me and they already have everything they need to know.
>
> Allen's listing of the questions asked goes way beyond basic caver info
> and seeks information the NSS has no business collecting.
>
> I put this thing in the same category as telemarketers. Unwelcome and not
> tolerated.
>
> I did not opt-in for the NSS to release my contact information, even to a
> contractor, for such a use. The fact that I can decide not to participate
> pales beside the NSS misusing my personal data.
>
> Stephen
> 13727 RL FE
>
>
>
>
> On 7/19/2018 14:25, Steve Peerman wrote:
>
> Allen,
> It’s not a scam, but you are under no obligation to buy the product that
> they are making.  It is supposed to be an NSS directory of all NSS members
> past and present.  I submitted my information, but I didn’t buy the book.
> It seems rather pricey to me.
>
>
> On Jul 19, 2018, at 2:22 PM, Allen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hey all,
> Just received a postcard from some publishing company about the NSS
> members manual.  Anyone else receive one? Its a yellow postcard with the
> NSS logo on it. It has a title of "Verification of caver data" in all caps,
>  and a Po Box in Dallas Tx.
>
> I called the number on the card and the phone operator started asking some
> odd questions about place of employment, phone numbers, email, marital
> status, name of spouse, name of kids, grotto affiliation.  Then at the end
> they want you to send them a color picture of yourself, a bill would then
> be sent out for two payments of $50 for the hard bound book.  Or because I
> am a member, would bundle a sweatshirt, and book bag, and a digital copy,
> for two payments of $75...  I didn't provide much info, but started
> questioning it by the end.
>
> Anyone know anything about this?  Is it a scam?   Is the NSS publishing
> the members manual in hardback?
> Allen
>
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