Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Re: DistoX

2019-07-23 Thread Pete Lindsley
Thanks for the link. No distance measurements are taken. We placed the azimuth targets (PVC pipes placed in sockets on the ground) farther away in order to get a more precise azimuth alignment. But the details are dependent on the user, and how good their eyesight is, and how steady the hand.

Re: [Texascavers] DistoX

2019-07-23 Thread mminton
Pete, The hardware is the same. You can get the firmware update here: . Scroll down to DistoX2 Firmware. Current is version 25. As I understand it, you don't need to take distance measurements at all for calibration (which means the laser doesn't

Re: [Texascavers] Stories

2019-07-23 Thread Pete Lindsley
So Bill, is a Branton Compass a Bentley Compass? Mine are of the original “Brunton” design, with the two slots on the side for the Brunton Mount. Even my Ainsworth and my K and my military units had that slot on the side. I have also seen a “Brunson” compass and some of the eBay units may

Re: [Texascavers] DistoX

2019-07-23 Thread mminton
On most expeditions I've been on, Distos are calibrated, or at least checked, on site. At Carlsbad Caverns a couple of years ago, we calibrated the Distos _in_ the cave at the beginning of survey. We got great backsight agreement and awesome closures. One very large loop closed with under a

Re: [Texascavers] Stories

2019-07-23 Thread Bill Bentley
You are no longer the Center of Attention of the Texas Caving Universe! You were replaced by a Branton Compass! On Tue, Jul 23, 2019, 2:47 PM David wrote: > Y'all are killing me with all these emails in my inbox > > LOL! > > I may have to unsubscribe. > > LOL! > > David Locklear >

Re: [Texascavers] Stories

2019-07-23 Thread David
Y'all are killing me with all these emails in my inbox LOL! I may have to unsubscribe. LOL! David Locklear ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives:

Re: [Texascavers] Brunton Stories

2019-07-23 Thread Logan
Is anyone from the NSS Survey and Cartography Section participating in this discussion? Many (not all!) of the observations and experiences described would be helpful to cave surveyors. Perhaps summarized in an article for the NSS News? Logan ___

Re: [Texascavers] Brass Brunton Pocket Transit

2019-07-23 Thread William R. Elliott
In the late 1960s I bought two military Bruntons from Ft. Hood. I think Bill Russell got them at $3 or $4 each for us. They were in mils of course, but I surveyed many caves with them. I just got some trig tables in mils and no problem using a slide rule to reduce data. One had a plain compass

Re: [Texascavers] Brunton Stories:

2019-07-23 Thread Pete Lindsley
Geary, Alan Hill had a Brunton where the wrong end of the needle pointed north. Somewhat confusing in the cave it was. But those that knew Alan also knew he was around some high power lasers (and associated magnetic fields) so apparently one time he had his Brunton in his pocket when he pressed

Re: [Texascavers] Brass Brunton Pocket Transit

2019-07-23 Thread Pete Lindsley
DIsto X2s are great in a cave when they are calibrated. I have modified 6 units so far with 2 more on the bench. One of those I suspect has a bad daughterboard. I found out the other Disto had an issue before I took it apart. It helps to calibrate the units before going into a cave. At Stanton

Re: [Texascavers] Brunton Stories:

2019-07-23 Thread Bill Steele
Lewis and Clark used the only compass available in the day, the Tate’s compass. The problem with them was that every so many of them had reverse polarity and north was really south and south was really north. This is where the saying, “He who has a Tate’s is lost” comes from. Bill Steele >

Re: [Texascavers] Brunton Stories:

2019-07-23 Thread Geary Schindel
Well, you may have gotten Douglas “Wrong way” Corrigan’s compass. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Corrigan He is the guy that filed a flight plan to fly from New York City to Long Beach, California in 1938 but flew to Ireland instead. I think that massive objects affect gravitational

Re: [Texascavers] Brunton Stories:

2019-07-23 Thread bmorgan994
Proof is the degree to which I can polarize opinion! XxxSW From: Texascavers On Behalf Of Nancy Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 11:43 AM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Brunton Stories: Having spent time w sleaze I’m pretty sure his energy field is the

Re: [Texascavers] Brunton Stories:

2019-07-23 Thread Nancy
> > Having spent time w sleaze I’m pretty sure his energy field is the > contributing factor . Nancy ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives:

Re: [Texascavers] Brunton Stories:

2019-07-23 Thread Geary Schindel
I have not heard of a compass changing polarity before. Interesting but guess it is possible to remagnetize the magnet on the compass needle. Then again, maybe you were near a vortex like the one’s near Sedona. I understand they can do all kinds of strange things such as teleport you back in

Re: [Texascavers] Brunton Stories:

2019-07-23 Thread bmorgan994
Everywhere I go I carry a small cheap pocket compass. Oftentimes I even remove the plate so all I have to carry is a little round plastic disc not much bigger than a silver dollar. Cheap? Yes, but all compasses work which is why you can pay $5 and get one that is “guaranteed” to work. So

[Texascavers] The future ?

2019-07-23 Thread David
Are any of you surprised by anything in 2019 ? Google Maps now displays the inside of buildings such as where condiments are located on the isle inside grocery stores. It seems obvious now, that a shopper will someday be able to zoom in and actually see which brands and flavors of salad-dressing

Re: [Texascavers] Brass Brunton Pocket Transit

2019-07-23 Thread John Brooks
IMO - the Brunton can stay on the collection shelvesI remember numerous survey trips with Pete using his favorite Bruntonone trip he called a string of alien sounding numbers and quadrants.after scratching my head for a few minutesI asked him to translate it into “English”. I

Re: [Texascavers] Brunton and Tape

2019-07-23 Thread mminton
It's hard to imagine that anyone who has used a DistoX for surveying would ever want to go back to using a Brunton. I've used both, and would never for a minute go back. For those who haven't seen it, there is a great spoof video about surveying by Derek Bristol at