[tw] Re: ScribdPlugin for TW?

2010-10-17 Thread Måns
I've made some tests of different ways to show pdf's in TW here:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1064531/screendmp/empty/TestPdf/TestPdf.html#%5B%5BDifferent%20ways%20to%20embed%20pdfs%20in%20a%20tiddler%5D%5D

We discussed it in this thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/fa5a697cd5486de9/272102efb01d?lnk=raot

However, what I need is a viewer which will show as many doctypes as
possible, with as little prepatory work as possible.
Scribd seems to be an answer..

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

On 17 Okt., 17:29, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi TwWizards

 I've been trying to make it easy to view external documents in TW in
 many ways (iframing pdf's, iframing google applet, hosting swftools on
 my own server), however all of them but one fails when I use TW on
 different OS'es or in different browsers...
 Scribd seems to have a most versatile viewer (shows: PDF, DOC, XLS,
 PPT, DOCX, PPTX, PS, etc.) *and* delivers very easy uploading of
 documents to their cloud. (You'll just give them your emailaddress).
 The limit for personal storage is 50.000 docs.

 Has anyone tried to write a plugin which utilizes Scribd's
 documenthosting?
 Here's some 
 instructions:http://www.scribd.com/developers/api?method_name=Javascript+API

 I'd love to have a docsviewer plugin in TiddlyWiki, even if it just
 shows online content..

 Cheers Måns Mårtensson

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[tw] Re: ScribdPlugin for TW?

2010-10-17 Thread Måns
Hmm FlexPaper seems to do a good job as well: 
http://flexpaper.devaldi.com/plugins.htm


On 17 Okt., 17:52, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've made some tests of different ways to show pdf's in TW 
 here:http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1064531/screendmp/empty/TestPdf/TestPdf.html#...

 We discussed it in this 
 thread:http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/fa5a69...

 However, what I need is a viewer which will show as many doctypes as
 possible, with as little prepatory work as possible.
 Scribd seems to be an answer..

 Cheers Måns Mårtensson

 On 17 Okt., 17:29, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote:



  Hi TwWizards

  I've been trying to make it easy to view external documents in TW in
  many ways (iframing pdf's, iframing google applet, hosting swftools on
  my own server), however all of them but one fails when I use TW on
  different OS'es or in different browsers...
  Scribd seems to have a most versatile viewer (shows: PDF, DOC, XLS,
  PPT, DOCX, PPTX, PS, etc.) *and* delivers very easy uploading of
  documents to their cloud. (You'll just give them your emailaddress).
  The limit for personal storage is 50.000 docs.

  Has anyone tried to write a plugin which utilizes Scribd's
  documenthosting?
  Here's some 
  instructions:http://www.scribd.com/developers/api?method_name=Javascript+API

  I'd love to have a docsviewer plugin in TiddlyWiki, even if it just
  shows online content..

  Cheers Måns Mårtensson

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[tw] Re: Local File System Access

2010-10-17 Thread Tobias Beer
Though a rather big one for an example...

http://tiddlytools.com/#ImportTiddlersPlugin

...might be of interest. Skimming through it, maybe loadRemoteFile and
the subsequent loadFile (core method) might be of interest.

There also is LoadExternal which might be of interest...

http://tobibeer.tiddlyspace.com/#LoadExternal

With such questions, however, you're probably better of in the dev
group...

http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywikidev

Cheers, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: ScribdPlugin for TW?

2010-10-17 Thread Måns
Hmm embedit seems to add some cool markup features: http://embedit.in/api

On 17 Okt., 18:10, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hmm FlexPaper seems to do a good job as 
 well:http://flexpaper.devaldi.com/plugins.htm

 On 17 Okt., 17:52, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote:



  I've made some tests of different ways to show pdf's in TW 
  here:http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1064531/screendmp/empty/TestPdf/TestPdf.html#...

  We discussed it in this 
  thread:http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/fa5a69...

  However, what I need is a viewer which will show as many doctypes as
  possible, with as little prepatory work as possible.
  Scribd seems to be an answer..

  Cheers Måns Mårtensson

  On 17 Okt., 17:29, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote:

   Hi TwWizards

   I've been trying to make it easy to view external documents in TW in
   many ways (iframing pdf's, iframing google applet, hosting swftools on
   my own server), however all of them but one fails when I use TW on
   different OS'es or in different browsers...
   Scribd seems to have a most versatile viewer (shows: PDF, DOC, XLS,
   PPT, DOCX, PPTX, PS, etc.) *and* delivers very easy uploading of
   documents to their cloud. (You'll just give them your emailaddress).
   The limit for personal storage is 50.000 docs.

   Has anyone tried to write a plugin which utilizes Scribd's
   documenthosting?
   Here's some 
   instructions:http://www.scribd.com/developers/api?method_name=Javascript+API

   I'd love to have a docsviewer plugin in TiddlyWiki, even if it just
   shows online content..

   Cheers Måns Mårtensson

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[tw] Re: ScribdPlugin for TW?

2010-10-17 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Måns,

To me, it looks like you already have all the examples you need.

Embedit.in looks great! Mind that you would have to take real good
care that your secret API identifier is never part of your TiddlyWiki!
On the other hand, I am really surprised that there is nothing in the
FAQ that tells me anything about limitations, if only as to the types
of documents that can be embedded. Dunno i that's great or should be
taken with care.

Compared to that, flexpaper seems way too complicated to be used in a
TiddlyWik context ...but I understand, you would want to be able to
annotate documents. That however seems a rather difficult workflow. I
mean, who do you want to be able to annotate, how do they
authenticate? Where do you host the flexpaper flash? It comes at
almost 1 meg, even zipped. Way too many questions for my taste.

If you want to have editable documents, have your group of trusted
people and share google documents or use alternatives like zoho.

Just yesterday, I created a little TypeWith.Me integration. Have a
look at the toolbar in the semantic space...
http://semantic.tiddlyspace.com/#TypeWithMe

Scribd is reall nice and looks fantastically slim when embedded. On
the other hand, to comment, etc..., I would prefer to open such
documents in a new window.

In general, I would say, integrating remotely hosted documents -
scribd or otherwise - is as simple as this:

Specify links in your tiddlers
[[my document|link to the url]]

Unless the widget comes with a compact interface, I would not try to
integrate all the functionality provded by the document hoster in
TiddlyWiki. If they provide tools to collaboratiom then that's fine.
All you need is for a certain group of people to have access. But don'
try to bring all the functionality inside of TiddlyWiki ...that might
work in 10 years maybe with dedicated SaaS API's.

The TiddlyWiki motto should always be some variation of KISS ...Keep
It Smart and Simple.

Thus I would highly recommend you used external links or at most some
transclusion template using iframes, which all you ever do is feed
with the document title and url, done.

Cheers, Tobias.

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[tw] Question to easy tiddler emdedding/referencing

2010-10-17 Thread Michael.Tarnowski
Hi folks,

while refactoring my TW I have to tough roughly 800 tiddlers. One of
the issues I'am faced with is to structure each tiddler like:

--- tiddler NameA1 ---
!Overview
Lore ipsum blah blah 1

!Tiddler NameA1
tiddler [[Tiddler Name##Overview]]
Lore ipsum blah blah 2

!Weblinks
* ...
--- tiddler end ---

where the second section is headed with tiddler name, a reference of
the overview part an optional additional text.  The idea is to be able
to reference either the Overview-Part or the full tiddler text in
other tiddlers.


Using Eric's wikify-Plugin I found an easy way to structure each
tiddler by:

--- tiddler NameA2 ---
!Overview
Lore ipsum blah blah 1

wikify [[!%0]] title
tiddler [[title##Overview]]
Lore ipsum blah blah 2

!Weblinks
* ...
--- tiddler end ---

The tiddler name NameA2 is formated correctly as level 1 heading and
is also recognised by DcTableOfContentsPlugin:

--- tiddler nameA2 ---
!Overview
Lore ipsum blah blah 1
!Tiddler NameA2
Lore ipsum blah blah 1
Lore ipsum blah blah 2
...
--- tiddler end ---

Unfortunately, since the wikify-cmd is rendered in tiddler nameA2
only,  I cannot embedded the full text part of nameA2 in tiddler B
easily:

--- tiddler B 

!referenced Text
tiddler [[NameA2##NameA2]]
 tiddler end 

the section NameA2 is not found in tiddler NameA2.

Any ideas, suggestions?
Michael

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[tw] Question to easy tiddler emdedding/referencing

2010-10-17 Thread Michael.Tarnowski
Hi folks,

while refactoring my TW I have to tough roughly 800 tiddlers. One of
the issues I'am faced with is to structure each tiddler like:

--- tiddler NameA1 ---
!Overview
Lore ipsum blah blah 1

!Tiddler NameA1
tiddler [[Tiddler Name##Overview]]
Lore ipsum blah blah 2

!Weblinks
* ...
--- tiddler end ---

where the second section is headed with tiddler name, a reference of
the overview part an optional additional text.  The idea is to be able
to reference either the Overview-Part or the full tiddler text in
other tiddlers.


Using Eric's wikify-Plugin I found an easy way to structure each
tiddler by:

--- tiddler NameA2 ---
!Overview
Lore ipsum blah blah 1

wikify [[!%0]] title
tiddler [[title##Overview]]
Lore ipsum blah blah 2

!Weblinks
* ...
--- tiddler end ---

The tiddler name NameA2 is formated correctly as level 1 heading and
is also recognised by DcTableOfContentsPlugin:

--- tiddler nameA2 ---
!Overview
Lore ipsum blah blah 1
!Tiddler NameA2
Lore ipsum blah blah 1
Lore ipsum blah blah 2
...
--- tiddler end ---

Unfortunately, since the wikify-cmd is rendered in tiddler nameA2
only,  I cannot embedded the full text part of nameA2 in tiddler B
easily:

--- tiddler B 

!referenced Text
tiddler [[NameA2##NameA2]]
 tiddler end 

the section NameA2 is not found in tiddler NameA2.

Any ideas, suggestions?
Michael

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[tw] Question to easy tiddler emdedding/referencing

2010-10-17 Thread Michael.Tarnowski
Hi folks,

while refactoring my TW I have to tough roughly 800 tiddlers. One of
the issues I'am faced with is to structure each tiddler like:

--- tiddler NameA1 ---
!Overview
Lore ipsum blah blah 1

!Tiddler NameA1
tiddler [[Tiddler Name##Overview]]
Lore ipsum blah blah 2

!Weblinks
* ...
--- tiddler end ---

where the second section is headed with tiddler name, a reference of
the overview part an optional additional text.  The idea is to be able
to reference either the Overview-Part or the full tiddler text in
other tiddlers.


Using Eric's wikify-Plugin I found an easy way to structure each
tiddler by:

--- tiddler NameA2 ---
!Overview
Lore ipsum blah blah 1

wikify [[!%0]] title
tiddler [[title##Overview]]
Lore ipsum blah blah 2

!Weblinks
* ...
--- tiddler end ---

The tiddler name NameA2 is formated correctly as level 1 heading and
is also recognised by DcTableOfContentsPlugin:

--- tiddler nameA2 ---
!Overview
Lore ipsum blah blah 1
!Tiddler NameA2
Lore ipsum blah blah 1
Lore ipsum blah blah 2
...
--- tiddler end ---

Unfortunately, since the wikify-cmd is rendered in tiddler nameA2
only,  I cannot embedded the full text part of nameA2 in tiddler B
easily:

--- tiddler B 

!referenced Text
tiddler [[NameA2##NameA2]]
 tiddler end 

the section NameA2 is not found in tiddler NameA2.

Any ideas, suggestions?
Michael

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[tw] Re: Question to easy tiddler emdedding/referencing

2010-10-17 Thread Tobias Beer
I don't see a reason for transcluding the overview into your 'tiddler
body' nor does it make any sense to me to automatically have a section
in a tiddler that is to be called like the tiddler.

Why not have a structure like this and leave out all the redundant
transclusions...

!Overview
...
!Contents
...
!Weblinks
...
?

Sorry if that might not be helpful, but it really looks like your
unnessessarily complicating stuff. Keep it simple.

Cheers, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: TiddlySplit

2010-10-17 Thread Cyrill
thanks for your reativity...it works
Regards

On 16 Okt., 13:59, Tobias Beer beertob...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi Cyrill,

 It does not work because at its very end it contains a transclusion
 using evaluated parameters which have been disabled on TiddlySpace for
 security reasons. If you nontheless want to reenable evaluated
 parameters, try this...

 http://tobibeer.tiddlyspace.com/#%5B%5BHow%20to%20reenable%20evaluate...

 On the other hand, the same risks of running any code against a
 TiddlySpace are exposed by many plugins, including
 InlineJavascriptPlugin, HideWhenPlugin, Evalify or even plain html
 blocks containing event handlers. So, in my humble opinion, there is
 no sense at all to having parameter evaluation turned off.

 Cheers, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Question to easy tiddler emdedding/referencing

2010-10-17 Thread Michael.Tarnowski
Hi Tobias,

 I don't see a reason for transcluding the overview into your 'tiddler
 body' nor does it make any sense to me to automatically have a section
 in a tiddler that is to be called like the tiddler.

I agree with you. But the only reason is historical - this TW is a
glossary system (~2000 items) and a lot of tiddlers were structured in
the past with a section named equal to tiddler name. Having a !Content
section in parallel makes tiddler embedding much more complicated - no
one knows is the referenced tiddler old structured or new.

Michael

Tobias Beer schrieb:
 I don't see a reason for transcluding the overview into your 'tiddler
 body' nor does it make any sense to me to automatically have a section
 in a tiddler that is to be called like the tiddler.

 Why not have a structure like this and leave out all the redundant
 transclusions...

 !Overview
 ...
 !Contents
 ...
 !Weblinks
 ...
 ?

 Sorry if that might not be helpful, but it really looks like your
 unnessessarily complicating stuff. Keep it simple.

 Cheers, Tobias.

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[tw] IncludePlugin question

2010-10-17 Thread Valikhanov
I have a question about UdoBorkowski's IncludePlugin (http://
tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#IncludePlugin?):

When the Include Plugin references another Tiddly it pulls ALL of the
tiddlers from that Tiddly and makes them accessible via the right-hand
lists of tiddlers.  Is there a way to make it so that the foreign
tiddlies are not listed there?  Part of the reason I have separate
Tiddlies in the first place is so that my tags list does not get too
cluttered up, so if it imports read-only views of the entire targeted
Tiddly this potentially game-changing plugin is of less use to me.

In other words, I want to be able to link to and open read-only views
of tiddlers outside of a given Tiddly, just not all of them - only the
ones that I explicitly link to.  But perhaps this is really more a
tool for keeping individual Tiddlies compact in file size?

I hope that makes sense.  As always, thank you for the astonishing
level of support for non-programmers like me in this discussion group.

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[tw] Re: TiddlySplit

2010-10-17 Thread Tobias Beer
Actually, I have removed this for now because everytime it opens in
Internet Explorer you get a stupid question as to whether or not you
want to temporarily download the font and then it isn't even
displayed. I also did not like at all how Firefox only rendered the
font after the page was already displayed, making things jump around.

The font itself is from a great site called FontSquirrel and indeed, I
uploaded it via BinaryUpload... like the SiteIcon from GettingStarted.

I tried to use this converter...
http://www.fontsquirrel.com/fontface/generator

...to get it to work with IE, too, but it didn't and I wasn't patient
enough to try and make it work. Maybe some other day.


Cheers, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Question to easy tiddler emdedding/referencing

2010-10-17 Thread Tobias Beer
 I agree with you. But the only reason is historical - this TW is a
 glossary system (~2000 items) and a lot of tiddlers were structured in
 the past with a section named equal to tiddler name. Having a !Content
 section in parallel makes tiddler embedding much more complicated - no
 one knows is the referenced tiddler old structured or new.

 Michael

Mhhh, I would not recommend putting a 'content' section in parallel,
but rather as a replacement. So wouldn't something like that be an
actual reason to restructure? Or do you have so much code depending on
that old structure that you just can't let go of it?

It does not seem very difficult to make a script that checks all
tiddlers as to whether or not there is a heading that goes by the name
of the tiddler and to replace it with a heading callled !Content...
be that 2000 or 20 tiddlers. On the other hand... how do those 2000
items relate to your 800 tiddlers?

Cheers, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: IncludePlugin question

2010-10-17 Thread Tobias Beer
It might be possible to modify the code such that every included
tiddler gets a tag of excludeLists and thus won't show in your
sidebar.

It might work to add something like...

t.tags.pushUnique('excludeLists');

...to the function inside of forEachLoadedStore in function
attachToStore in [1]

However it would probably be better though if Udo would make such a
modification which eventually allows to tag included tiddlers.

Cheers, Tobias.

[1] 
http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/archive/IncludePlugin/Plugin-Include-src.1.0.0.js

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[tw] Python code and tiddlywiki

2010-10-17 Thread alessio c
Hi people,

did someone think about running python code directly from TiddlyWiki? Maybe
creating a script that sends the python code to the IDE or terminal?

That would be just amazing...
a.

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[tw] Re: Of joys and woes: After a week in TiddlySpace

2010-10-17 Thread Plausible
Thanks everyone, and pardon the delay. Let's see... (Mario, I'll
answer to your e-mail replies here, if Groups lets me.)

 *1) Can I have internal (tiddler) links looking different from external ones,
 Wikipedia-style?
Jeremy:
Yes, that's what is supposed to happen, with both the stock TiddlyWiki and
TiddlySpace styles. Tiddly links appear as bold text with a background
hover, and ordinary external linkes appear as conventional blue underlined
text.

Right. I somehow failed to fully register this while left-and-right
clicking. May just be newbie-ness. Yet I did add (more or less) what
Måns suggested now, to get Wikipedia-style arrows: seems clearer to
me.

Also, if I wanted to change the background hover, where would I go?

[ Måns, thanks for that. Regarding QuickEdit: I did nothing
extraordinary to get it working. I downloaded the whole TiddlyTools
page and from that local copy imported everything with a
QuickEditPackage tag into my TSpace. Finally I put div macro='tiddler
QuickEditToolbar'/div in the EditTemplate part of NeUIemTheme,
right before where it says div class='box editor' macro='edit text'/
div. Perhaps the fact that I put it in NeUIemTheme rather than the
EditTemplate tiddler makes a difference? ]

 *3) Can I get the calendar to size better with the MainMenu?
Mario:
 Yes. If you point to the source of your calendar, we can have a look at the 
 CSS

It's the CalendarPlugin from TiddlyTools. I checked the CSS and
inserted text-align:center; font-size:90%; in the setStylesheet
statement. This makes a good fit for my 800px wide screen. (However on
a wider screen it doesn't fill out the wider MainMenu... why not? It's
90% with respect to what, if not the MainMenu width?)

 **4) [Making the comment box slide/hideable]
Mario:
 div class='comments' macro='slider chkComments commentsTiddler View
 comments » Display the comments '
and a commentsTiddler that contains:
 comments textRows:1 testCols:3

Unfortunately this creates a single commentsTiddler for all
tiddlers... i.e. every tiddler shows the same sequence of comments :{

 **5) [Choosing among a pre-set list of tags]
Mario:
http://tbgtd.tiddlyspot.com/#DeliciousTagging may do what you want.

I couldn't figure out how to configure it. Tried a bunch of other
tagging plugins and now I'm using Tobias's TagSearchPlugin. (Tobias:
this is neat, though making 10 tag tiddlers each itself tagged e.g.
'Topic' is more convoluted than if one could have 1 tiddler 'Topic'
with a list of ten tags in it...I bet I'm overlooking the pros of your
system.)

 **6) It would rock to have a 'create SVG tiddler' button
rakugo/Jon:
 http://svg-editor.tiddlyspace.com/

Great!... but I find no 'new image button' after I import the space --
in fact I don't see such a button on the space itself either? (The
imported plugin does work otherwise.)

Mario: would it be possible to add a 6th, new SVG, button to neui-
em's SidebarButtons?

 ***7) I'd really like a way to automatically keep the collaborators up to 
 date
cdent:
  http://user:password@space.tiddlyspace.com/recipes/space_private
  /tiddlers.atom

On Linux I have no luck in either Liferea, Thunderbird, newsbeuter or
yarssr :( Are there any readers which are known to work this way?

In any case I can't force a specific feedreader onto each member; so
keeping my eyes peeled for progress on this one.

 **8bis) Relatedly, how can I make a 'private-friendly' local backup?
Jeremy:
http://jermolene.tiddlyspace.com/bags/jermolene_private/tiddlers.wiki...

Hm... but just the private tiddlers makes for a rather broken local
blog copy. Whereas the full html file has only the public tiddlers
accessible offline (as it should be, since anyone can download it).
The solution would seem to be to provide a system where the logged-in
member can download the space whereby the private tiddlers get
(perhaps temporarily, so the distinction remains latent) converted
into public ones?

This is not only relevant from a data backup concern but also
regarding spells of offline work. I'd like for my extended brain to
remain accessible on the road...

 *9) Username/space issues:
Jeremy  cdent:
 [Therefore you identity in TiddlySpace is your space, the spaces you are a
 member of, and the content you create in  those spaces.] etc.

Interesting. I may be pre-Web2.0 but I think a bit less user/space
conflation would be good, especially regarding the practical case
mentioned in my OP. It's actually no bother to have one's space 'open'
to any old Google's scrutiny since one can make it 99%-private anyway
(it's just a featureless facade); but the address should be discreet
if so wished.

I was unclear in my OpenID question: what I meant was it'd be easier
for me to invite members by saying just use your OpenID and you can
check out my TSpace, than to tell them you have to create your own
space (and hence user) first. It makes little difference practically
but it sounds quite different if you've no clue about TW. How about an
automated e-mail to such a 

Re: [tw] Re: Local File System Access

2010-10-17 Thread Anthony Muscio
SqueezeOJ,

If you described what and why you want to do this, I think you may get
better answers. The QuickEdit plugin allows you to paste contents from a
local file into a tiddler and there are various ways to import tiddlers from
csv files and more. Once in tiddlywiki you can format the text and generate
multiple tiddlers from the one file using SplitTiddler script. Look through
tiddlytools.com and you will find most of this.

Filedrop plugin and others also provide other alternatives, however with the
lack of background in your question it is hard to see what you are trying to
do, rather than simply answering your question.

Regards Tony

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On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 21:12, Tobias Beer beertob...@googlemail.comwrote:

 Though a rather big one for an example...

 http://tiddlytools.com/#ImportTiddlersPlugin

 ...might be of interest. Skimming through it, maybe loadRemoteFile and
 the subsequent loadFile (core method) might be of interest.

 There also is LoadExternal which might be of interest...

 http://tobibeer.tiddlyspace.com/#LoadExternal

 With such questions, however, you're probably better of in the dev
 group...

 http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywikidev

 Cheers, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Question to easy tiddler emdedding/referencing

2010-10-17 Thread Michael.Tarnowski
Hi Tobias,

well it will take some time to answer. Five years ago I started for a
customer systems engineering project a small TW containing terminology
in the field of expertise, terms of project management, QA
regulations, and engineering framework applied.

In the first version the tiddlers contained only plain textual
descriptions w/ images without any section structure.
In more versions the TW became my personal notepad holding terms of
the fields of computer science, project management, QA, testing, etc.
I became more familiar with TW technique and usefull plugins, and the
descriptions became more complex as well.
In the next versions I started with sectioning for new added glossary
tiddlers. In the next sections I introduced the !Overview sect. as
kind of abstract for easy tiddler referencing and embedding. Later on
I added between each main content section a refercence of the Overview
part for ease of understanding

Thus, the TW looks like an onion: the oldest tiddlers contain no
structure, some have an Overview and a Main sect. w/o Overview
reference, and some have an Overview and a Main sect. w/ Overview
reference:


--- v0.1 tiddlers 
Blah blah Blab
 end 

--- v1.0 tiddlers ---
!Tiddler Name
blah blah
- end 

--- v2.0 tiddlers ---
!Overview
blah blah1
!Tiddler Name
blah blah2
- end 


--- v3.0 tiddlers ---
!Overview
blah blah1
!Tiddler Name
tiddler [[TiddlerName##Overview]]
blah blah2
- end 

All relevant tiddlers are tagged with glossary. Tiddler with
additional tags video, abk, glossary_transclusion are apart from
this scheme.
I started the restructering because of consistency in content
structure and references. Actualy ~800 of  ~3600 items tagged as
glossary are affected by the refactoring.

Since these tiddlers differ in their structure due to historical
reasons, a script would probably not apply.

Cheers, Michael

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On 17 Okt., 23:44, Tobias Beer beertob...@googlemail.com wrote:
  I agree with you. But the only reason is historical - this TW is a
  glossary system (~2000 items) and a lot of tiddlers were structured in
  the past with a section named equal to tiddler name. Having a !Content
  section in parallel makes tiddler embedding much more complicated - no
  one knows is the referenced tiddler old structured or new.

  Michael

 Mhhh, I would not recommend putting a 'content' section in parallel,
 but rather as a replacement. So wouldn't something like that be an
 actual reason to restructure? Or do you have so much code depending on
 that old structure that you just can't let go of it?

 It does not seem very difficult to make a script that checks all
 tiddlers as to whether or not there is a heading that goes by the name
 of the tiddler and to replace it with a heading callled !Content...
 be that 2000 or 20 tiddlers. On the other hand... how do those 2000
 items relate to your 800 tiddlers?

 Cheers, Tobias.

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