date:20180424

Mario,

I hear all you are saying.  On Further consideration.


   - The main need I have for tabs in wiki-text  tiddlers is for 
   structuring information in edit mode so that it is more reasonable to read. 
   I could live with its invisible non line break if in some modes I could see 
   them, and even if not rendered in the View Template.
   - The secondary need I have, which many authors and content provides has 
   is for indent in this case ":" works for this in tiddlywiki (although on my 
   keyboard it is a shift-: and you have to place ":::" at the beginning of a 
   line not while you are typing.
   - The final need is to organise text in simple columns, this is when it 
   is displayed as well, and its helpful that tab"text" moves it to the next 
   tab position.
   
A work around for this last items would be
|*|Item|detail|
|*|Item 2|detail|

if I could easily make the table boarders disappear.

Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 10:54:33 AM UTC+10, PMario wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 2:30:45 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Using the CodeMirror plugin I can insert tabs in the text, long desired. 
>> However the tabs only show in edit mode, not view mode
>>
>
> Tabs are __not__ a "styling" element. They are treated as whitespace in 
> HTML. 
>  
>
>> However if a line has one or more tab characters in it it is not visible 
>> yet it is no longer blank and will cause text to move up and join the line 
>> before. ie; same paragraph.
>>
>
> That's an issue or feature request. ... I think you could start a new 
> thread for codemirror only. ... It may be possible to create a setting, 
> that shows whitespace, like spaces and tabs ...
>  
>
>> This could frustrate a lot of people trying to debug their tiddler view 
>> content.
>>
>
> As I wrote. Either create a new issue at github or start a new thread in 
> the group. So it won't be forgotten.
>  
>
>> Solutions?, A edit/View mode that shows hidden characters, 
>>
>
> Should be possible.
>  
>
>> or honour tabs in view mode such that they also end the paragraph/
>>
>
> no .. Only 2 "new lines" ends a paragraph.  
>
> If tabs cause a lot of problems, we will need to turn them off for TW 
> wikitext. They are invisible anyway. 
>
> Tabs can only be used for json, data tidlers, CSS, SVG and javascript 
> code. 
>
> have fun!
> mario
>

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[tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 2:30:45 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>
> Using the CodeMirror plugin I can insert tabs in the text, long desired. 
> However the tabs only show in edit mode, not view mode
>

Tabs are __not__ a "styling" element. They are treated as whitespace in 
HTML. 

> However if a line has one or more tab characters in it it is not visible 
> yet it is no longer blank and will cause text to move up and join the line 
> before. ie; same paragraph.
>

That's an issue or feature request. ... I think you could start a new 
thread for codemirror only. ... It may be possible to create a setting, 
that shows whitespace, like spaces and tabs ...

> This could frustrate a lot of people trying to debug their tiddler view 
> content.
>

As I wrote. Either create a new issue at github or start a new thread in 
the group. So it won't be forgotten.

> Solutions?, A edit/View mode that shows hidden characters, 
>

Should be possible.

> or honour tabs in view mode such that they also end the paragraph/
>

no .. Only 2 "new lines" ends a paragraph.  

If tabs cause a lot of problems, we will need to turn them off for TW 
wikitext. They are invisible anyway. 

Tabs can only be used for json, data tidlers, CSS, SVG and javascript code. 

have fun!
mario

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[tw5] Re: Revisiting the outliner idea

David,

While working through the pre-release I saw reference to 
the https://tiddlywiki.com/editions/text-slicer/ which if the truth be told 
is a long way to establishing the out-liner technology. As others have said 
but I never understood.

I will look at in more detail in time, but it may be the first port of call.

Regards
Tony



On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 12:26:08 AM UTC+10, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> I felt so bad for derailing a recent thread on using TW as an outliner, 
> and dousing cold water on the discussion, that I revisited the idea and 
> wanted to extend an olive branch as my way of apologizing to Tony and Vytas 
> and others there.
>
> Here is a quick idea I came up with. I made some progress, and outline 
> what would still need to be figured out: 
> http://giffmex.org/experiments/twdynaflowy.html#Progress%20and%20problems:%5B%5BProgress%20and%20problems%5D%5D%20HQ%20%24%3A%2F.giffmex%2Ftoc.children%20%24%3A%2F.giffmex%2Ftocstylesheet%20%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fmacros%2Ftoc
>
> Blessings, Dave
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[tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

Feedback,

Using the CodeMirror plugin I can insert tabs in the text, long desired. 
However the tabs only show in edit mode, not view mode

Perhaps this is desirable

However if a line has one or more tab characters in it it is not visible 
yet it is no longer blank and will cause text to move up and join the line 
before. ie; same paragraph.

This could frustrate a lot of people trying to debug their tiddler view 
content.

Solutions?, A edit/View mode that shows hidden characters, or honour tabs 
in view mode such that they also end the paragraph/

Regards
Tony


On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 2:17:18 AM UTC+10, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> The release of v5.1.16 is overdue; the good news is that there are a lot 
> of exciting new features:
>
> * Copying to the clipboard
> * A new “sortan” filter operator for intuitive alphanumeric sorting
> * A new “rotate left” button in the bitmap editor
> * Comparison operators for the reveal widget
> * Visual diffs available in the edit preview and the import listing
> * A hugely overhauled CodeMirror plugin with many new futures, and much 
> better extensibility and customisability
> * Many improvements to the TextSlicer plugin, including customisability 
> via declarative JSON rules
> * An updated KaTeX plugin to the latest v0.9.0
> * The new DynaView plugin for building user interfaces that respond to 
> scrolling and zooming
> * Sharper and more readable default fonts
>
> In preparation for the release, I’d be grateful for as many hands as 
> possible to give the prerelease a try:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease
>
> Please try it with your favourite plugins, or perform a trial upgrade of 
> your personal wikis. Any feedback gratefully received.
>
> If all goes well, we’ll release v5.1.16 in the next few days.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Preparing for v5.1.16

Some quick examples to add to the range widget documentation (tested 
on https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/)

1-10
<$range field=number-field min=-1 max=10 default=1 increment=1 > 
{{!!number-field}}

0 to 1 for percentages

<$range tiddler="Settings tiddler" field=number-field min=0 max=1 
default=.01 increment=.01 > {{Settings tiddler!!number-field}}

Ideally all command/widgets should have a "code template" we can copy to 
clipboard

<$range tiddler="" field="" min=1 max=10 increment=1 default=1 
class="">

Otherwise it is time consuming for the user to build the command

If the commands feature demands it we may present multiple forms of the 
code template.

Regards
Tony



On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 8:16:49 AM UTC+10, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I’ve posted another update with the last minute changes proposed today. 
> Please give it a try and let me know of any issues; I now plan to make the 
> release tomorrow,
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
> On 24 Apr 2018, at 08:22, Jeremy Ruston  
> wrote:
>
> I'm afraid my progress has been slower for the last 3 weeks than I'd hoped 
> due to suddenly succumbing to something called bursitis of my elbows (which 
> is a medical term for “expert torture administered via the elbows”). 
> Maddening condition for a programmer: typing, using a touch screen or 
> trackpad all induce nerve-shredding agony. It's slowly getting better but I 
> can still only type for short bursts. On the positive side, it's given me 
> some welcome insights into everyday life for people who rely on assistive 
> technologies.
>
> Anyhow, I intend to release 5.1.16 later today unless anyone has any 
> showstopper concerns (I do intend to merge Matt's range widget before the 
> release).
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
> --
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> jer...@jermolene.com 
> https://jermolene.com
>
> On 16 Apr 2018, at 15:51, Matthew Lauber  
> wrote:
>
> Any word on the range widget PR here?  
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2988  
>
> If there's something that needs done with it, I'm happy to add to the PR.
>
> Thanks,
> Matt Lauber
>
> On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 10:10:06 PM UTC-4, Matthew Lauber wrote:
>>
>> Could I get the following PRs looked at for inclusion?
>>
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2988 Adding a <$range> 
>> widget that supports all the features of the  element.
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2982 Modify the is 
>> operator to allow multiple types to be specified.
>>
>> On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 12:17:18 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>>
>>> The release of v5.1.16 is overdue; the good news is that there are a lot 
>>> of exciting new features:
>>>
>>> * Copying to the clipboard
>>> * A new “sortan” filter operator for intuitive alphanumeric sorting
>>> * A new “rotate left” button in the bitmap editor
>>> * Comparison operators for the reveal widget
>>> * Visual diffs available in the edit preview and the import listing
>>> * A hugely overhauled CodeMirror plugin with many new futures, and much 
>>> better extensibility and customisability
>>> * Many improvements to the TextSlicer plugin, including customisability 
>>> via declarative JSON rules
>>> * An updated KaTeX plugin to the latest v0.9.0
>>> * The new DynaView plugin for building user interfaces that respond to 
>>> scrolling and zooming
>>> * Sharper and more readable default fonts
>>>
>>> In preparation for the release, I’d be grateful for as many hands as 
>>> possible to give the prerelease a try:
>>>
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease
>>>
>>> Please try it with your favourite plugins, or perform a trial upgrade of 
>>> your personal wikis. Any feedback gratefully received.
>>>
>>> If all goes well, we’ll release v5.1.16 in the next few days.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy.
>>>
>>>
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[tw5] How to edit menus

2018-04-24 Thread Morgaine O'Herne

I've looked all over and can't find the answer to this, so It's probably so 
blatantly obvious that there's no need to spell it out.

I have Ton Gerner's plugins for Top Menu and Top Left Menu.  There is a 
'tagpill1' and a 'tagpill2' at the top left of the page. How do I make 
these into a normal menu?
Specifically, I want 5 tabs, with each one opening the tiddlers with a 
given tag, and closing the rest, and one to make it show all of them.
I am using Muuri.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. 
Morgaine

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[tw5] Re: NoteSelf uses local browser storage seamlessly with a remote synching server

Mark et all

Yesterday I installed CouchDB on My Windows 10 64bit, I have not got a 
noteself to connect to it yet. There seems to be a gap in the instructions 
on how to configure a tiddlywiki DB. This would allow me to look at the 
database structure that NoteSelf is using and thus determine if MySQL would 
be a practical re-invention.

As You (mark says) One way to look at this tiddler in DB is that the title 
is the key and rest is a blob this is in keeping with the concept of a 
skinny tiddler. Loads as needed.

On Couch DB there is a docker image which I intend to try on my Synology 
NAS but if you have a host that supports Docker you could build an internet 
facing CouchDB.

Unfortunately I only have a highly asymetric Internet connection with a 
small speed up to the internet so I am not in a position to host much from 
inside my LAN out to the internet, thus a desire to get a DB back end for 
TiddlyWiki hosted on the internet. I have a wholesaler/re-seller hosting 
service on cpanel

Regards
Tony

On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 11:39:30 PM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 1:07:39 AM UTC-7, Jed Carty wrote:
>>
>> SQL is optimised around having a known number of columns with a known 
>> type in each column which isn't a good match for tiddlywiki because 
>> tiddlers can have any number of custom fields they would all be stored as a 
>> single text blob anyway.
>>
>>
> You would only need to put a handful of fields into actual SQL fields and 
> roll the rest into some sort of blob. The advantage is that there are a 
> large number of hosts that offer MySQL thanks to cpanel. But couch is not 
> offered at all. With skinny loading, you could have a working TW with as 
> many tiddlers as the SQL system could handle.
>
> The last time I tried Noteself, I found that I could not cleanly delete 
> and restore an instance. This suggests that there is data being left 
> behind. This would worry me in any situation where security is a concern.
>
> -- Mark 
>

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Re: [tw5] Preparing for v5.1.16

2018-04-24 Thread Mat

>issues

Trying out the range widget:

I type in <$range/> in the text field which gives the slider thingy. I.e I 
don't explicitly state any field.
Pulling the slider to a position totally replaces(!) everything(!) in the 
current field with the static corresponding value.
This is not what happens when you pull the slider from a  html element, where instead "nothing" happens.

I'm thinking that if "nothing" should happen, then maybe there should be 
some other default field (e.g "range-value") or that the slider is blocked 
or something. Or maybe some warning or confirmation request? The most user 
friendly is probably having a default field.

The existing rangewidget default attribute does not seem to be about this 
matter.

<:-)



On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 12:16:49 AM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I’ve posted another update with the last minute changes proposed today. 
> Please give it a try and let me know of any issues; I now plan to makye the 
> release tomorrow,
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
> On 24 Apr 2018, at 08:22, Jeremy Ruston  
> wrote:
>
> I'm afraid my progress has been slower for the last 3 weeks than I'd hoped 
> due to suddenly succumbing to something called bursitis of my elbows (which 
> is a medical term for “expert torture administered via the elbows”). 
> Maddening condition for a programmer: typing, using a touch screen or 
> trackpad all induce nerve-shredding agony. It's slowly getting better but I 
> can still only type for short bursts. On the positive side, it's given me 
> some welcome insights into everyday life for people who rely on assistive 
> technologies.
>
> Anyhow, I intend to release 5.1.16 later today unless anyone has any 
> showstopper concerns (I do intend to merge Matt's range widget before the 
> release).
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
> --
> Jeremy Ruston
> jer...@jermolene.com 
> https://jermolene.com
>
> On 16 Apr 2018, at 15:51, Matthew Lauber  
> wrote:
>
> Any word on the range widget PR here?  
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2988  
>
> If there's something that needs done with it, I'm happy to add to the PR.
>
> Thanks,
> Matt Lauber
>
> On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 10:10:06 PM UTC-4, Matthew Lauber wrote:
>>
>> Could I get the following PRs looked at for inclusion?
>>
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2988 Adding a <$range> 
>> widget that supports all the features of the  element.
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2982 Modify the is 
>> operator to allow multiple types to be specified.
>>
>> On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 12:17:18 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>>
>>> The release of v5.1.16 is overdue; the good news is that there are a lot 
>>> of exciting new features:
>>>
>>> * Copying to the clipboard
>>> * A new “sortan” filter operator for intuitive alphanumeric sorting
>>> * A new “rotate left” button in the bitmap editor
>>> * Comparison operators for the reveal widget
>>> * Visual diffs available in the edit preview and the import listing
>>> * A hugely overhauled CodeMirror plugin with many new futures, and much 
>>> better extensibility and customisability
>>> * Many improvements to the TextSlicer plugin, including customisability 
>>> via declarative JSON rules
>>> * An updated KaTeX plugin to the latest v0.9.0
>>> * The new DynaView plugin for building user interfaces that respond to 
>>> scrolling and zooming
>>> * Sharper and more readable default fonts
>>>
>>> In preparation for the release, I’d be grateful for as many hands as 
>>> possible to give the prerelease a try:
>>>
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease
>>>
>>> Please try it with your favourite plugins, or perform a trial upgrade of 
>>> your personal wikis. Any feedback gratefully received.
>>>
>>> If all goes well, we’ll release v5.1.16 in the next few days.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy.
>>>
>>>
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[tw5] Re: Sorting table of contents by multiple parameters

2018-04-24 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

OK, there is another way, if you don't mind putting sort criteria in your 
tiddlers. See:

https://tiddlywiki.com/#How%20to%20change%20the%20sort%20order%20of%20sub-branches%20in%20a%20TOC%20macro

for details.


On Sunday, April 22, 2018 at 3:31:01 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I think you would have to re-write the macro. There is a sort argument for 
> the macro, but it would get applied at every sub-level so wouldn't be 
> useful unless you only have one level of tiddlers.
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Sunday, April 22, 2018 at 1:04:04 PM UTC-7, Fadel M wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for replying! That's a good way to do it.
>>
>> Ah, so there's no way to do it without excluding the unsorted tiddlers 
>> from the sort?
>> I can't understand how the default sort does it though. You just have to 
>> write the name of the tiddlers you want first in the *list* field, and 
>> the rest are automatically sorted by *created*. Is it just that it's a 
>> more low level thing than toc macros?
>>
>> Also, while this solution is more than enough for my purposes, I'm 
>> curious as to whether there is a way to do it automatically without a 
>> button? Perhaps by modifying the way the macro works?
>>
>> On Sunday, April 22, 2018 at 10:29:12 PM UTC+3, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> If you want to use the existing toc macros then you will need to modify 
>>> the list field of your root (top) tiddler.  Here's an example that 
>>> rearranges the default listing for HelloThere on tiddlywiki.com, :-) 
>>> putting Examples first, and Discover TiddlyWiki last.
>>>
>>> <$button> <$action-listops $tiddler=HelloThere $field="list" 
>>> $filter="Examples [tag[HelloThere]![Examples]![Discover TiddlyWiki]sort[]] 
>>> [[Discover TiddlyWiki]]"/> Populate 'myfield'  
>>>
>>>
>>> For your situation,  you will need some way to discriminate sorted 
>>> tiddlers from non- sorted tiddlers. Then you can use a filter in your 
>>> button like
>>>
>>> Tiddler1 Tiddler2 Tiddler3 [tag[sorted]sort[title]] Tiddler200 
>>>
>>> --Mark
>>> On Sunday, April 22, 2018 at 9:32:03 AM UTC-7, Fadel M wrote:

 Hi,

 From what I understand, the default sort for the table of contents is 
 by the *created* field. The *list* field overrides the sort by putting 
 the listed tiddler titles on top in listed order.

 What I'd like to achieve is to sort the contents by title, but keep the 
 ability of the *list* field to prioritize some of the tiddlers. I'm 
 not sure how to do this, since I'm not very familiar with the inner 
 workings. 

 The way I imagine it is by populating the *list *field as below
 list: Tiddler1 Tiddler2 Tiddler3 sort[title] Tiddler200 Tiddler300

 But of course, this doesn't work. Could anyone point me in the right 
 direction?

>>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Revisiting the outliner idea

A key need in my view for the outliner was voiced by Vytas the original 
poster, and others subsequently. 

This is my view of the requirements.

It is basically listing the *content *of all tiddlers in the equivalent of 
a TOC structure. With or without the titles, and with or without view\edit 
icons. Allowing closure of each level in the view.

The result will be a single tiddler that looks like a finished "book", that 
can be printed, or used to locate pieces to edit.
In Edit mode the ability to insert create tiddlers as content

Its outliner quality comes from its hierarchical structure and single view.

Regards
Tony


On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 3:45:19 AM UTC+10, David Gifford wrote:
>
> This one. I got a little overly defensive about outliners since most 
> comments in this group, that I have read, have been a little negative
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/RNqJR1s6ysk
>
> David Gifford
> Mexico team leader, Mexico City
>
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>
>
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 12:39 PM, PMario  
> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 4:26:08 PM UTC+2, David Gifford wrote:
>>>
>>> I felt so bad for derailing a recent thread on using TW as an outliner, 
>>> and dousing cold water on the discussion,
>>>
>>
>> Which one? I do remember some outlining discussion, but have no link 
>> anymore. 
>>
>> Can you point me into the right direction?
>>
>> -m
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[tw5] Re: Sorting table of contents by multiple parameters

Fadel,

The the code examples lets you create a "tag Pill" that appears on any 
tiddler that is used to tag other tiddlers. Thus you have immediate access 
to the tag pill such that you can reorder  them.

Glad I could help
Regards
Tony


On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 5:46:46 AM UTC+10, Fadel M wrote:
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> I had no idea I could re-arrange by drag and drop from the tag pill drop 
> down, thanks for the pointer!
>
> I couldn't think of a creative use for the code examples you gave though. 
> It seemed to me like the functionality is already built in?
>
> On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 4:27:19 AM UTC+3, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Fadel,
>>
>> As a little side note/brain dump, since what you are doing here is 
>> effectively altering the order of items tagging a given tiddler you can use 
>> the show as tag pill.
>>
>>
>> {{TableOfContents||$:/core/ui/TagTemplate}}
>> or use the macro
>> <>
>>
>> The Popup list of items tagging TableOfContents is thus sort-able using 
>> drag and drop, try it. I always install the Open All 
>> plugin $:/plugins/ajh/openall (I am trying to locate the Source) which adds 
>> the ability to open all items so tagged from the Tag pill popup.
>> Note: all tiddlers tagged with the current tiddler can also be found in 
>> Info button tagging, however by default this is not drag-able (as yet).
>>
>> Once you have a populated list in the relevant tiddler eg TableOfContents 
>> in the "list" field you could perhaps provide alternate ways to sort the 
>> items in this list with a click. Alpha, date field etc.. I am yet to 
>> explore this in detail.
>>
>> If you use the macrocall method to invoke the tag macro you can make this 
>> use the current tiddler
>> <$macrocall $name="tag" tag=<>/>
>> Thus this can be placed in a tiddler tagged $:/tags/ViewTemplate to 
>> appear in all tiddlers.
>>
>> Alternatively I have just placed <$macrocall $name="tag" 
>> tag=<>/> in the core tiddler $:/
>> core/ui/ViewTemplate/subtitle 
>> NB: This will over ride the shadow tiddler.
>>
>> Wrapping it in the following, it will only show if the current tiddler 
>> tags at least one tiddler.
>>
>> <$list filter="[is[current]tagging[]limit[1]]" variable=null>
>> <$macrocall $name="tag" tag=<>/>
>> 
>>
>> I hope this gives you some thing to play with.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 2:32:03 AM UTC+10, Fadel M wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> From what I understand, the default sort for the table of contents is by 
>>> the *created* field. The *list* field overrides the sort by putting the 
>>> listed tiddler titles on top in listed order.
>>>
>>> What I'd like to achieve is to sort the contents by title, but keep the 
>>> ability of the *list* field to prioritize some of the tiddlers. I'm not 
>>> sure how to do this, since I'm not very familiar with the inner workings. 
>>>
>>> The way I imagine it is by populating the *list *field as below
>>> list: Tiddler1 Tiddler2 Tiddler3 sort[title] Tiddler200 Tiddler300
>>>
>>> But of course, this doesn't work. Could anyone point me in the right 
>>> direction?
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Preparing for v5.1.16

I’ve posted another update with the last minute changes proposed today. Please 
give it a try and let me know of any issues; I now plan to make the release 
tomorrow,

https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease 

Best wishes

Jeremy

> On 24 Apr 2018, at 08:22, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
> 
> I'm afraid my progress has been slower for the last 3 weeks than I'd hoped 
> due to suddenly succumbing to something called bursitis of my elbows (which 
> is a medical term for “expert torture administered via the elbows”). 
> Maddening condition for a programmer: typing, using a touch screen or 
> trackpad all induce nerve-shredding agony. It's slowly getting better but I 
> can still only type for short bursts. On the positive side, it's given me 
> some welcome insights into everyday life for people who rely on assistive 
> technologies.
> 
> Anyhow, I intend to release 5.1.16 later today unless anyone has any 
> showstopper concerns (I do intend to merge Matt's range widget before the 
> release).
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy.
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> On 16 Apr 2018, at 15:51, Matthew Lauber  > wrote:
> 
>> Any word on the range widget PR here?  
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2988 
>>   
>> 
>> If there's something that needs done with it, I'm happy to add to the PR.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Matt Lauber
>> 
>> On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 10:10:06 PM UTC-4, Matthew Lauber wrote:
>> Could I get the following PRs looked at for inclusion?
>> 
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2988 
>>  Adding a <$range> 
>> widget that supports all the features of the  element.
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2982 
>>  Modify the is operator 
>> to allow multiple types to be specified.
>> 
>> On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 12:17:18 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>> The release of v5.1.16 is overdue; the good news is that there are a lot of 
>> exciting new features:
>> 
>> * Copying to the clipboard
>> * A new “sortan” filter operator for intuitive alphanumeric sorting
>> * A new “rotate left” button in the bitmap editor
>> * Comparison operators for the reveal widget
>> * Visual diffs available in the edit preview and the import listing
>> * A hugely overhauled CodeMirror plugin with many new futures, and much 
>> better extensibility and customisability
>> * Many improvements to the TextSlicer plugin, including customisability via 
>> declarative JSON rules
>> * An updated KaTeX plugin to the latest v0.9.0
>> * The new DynaView plugin for building user interfaces that respond to 
>> scrolling and zooming
>> * Sharper and more readable default fonts
>> 
>> In preparation for the release, I’d be grateful for as many hands as 
>> possible to give the prerelease a try:
>> 
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease 
>> 
>> Please try it with your favourite plugins, or perform a trial upgrade of 
>> your personal wikis. Any feedback gratefully received.
>> 
>> If all goes well, we’ll release v5.1.16 in the next few days.
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> Jeremy.
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Re: [tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

Hi Petr

Thanks for the kind words; I’ve dropped you an email privately to take you up 
on your offer.

Best wishes

Jeremy

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> I'm really sorry to hear that, Jeremy. Any inflammation that affects the 
> joints area is extremely painful (from my own experience, unfortunately). 
> After weeks of agony I luckily found an effective treatment by combining 
> prescribed "Western" anti-inflammatory drugs with Traditional Chinese 
> Medicine herbs. Should you need some information, drop me a private message. 
> Wish you quick relief.
> 
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[tw5] Story to defaultTiddlers (Pull Request?)

2018-04-24 Thread Jan


Hello,
I made  a tiny button which inserts the Tiddlers of the storylist into 
the defaultTiddlers-Field.


<$set name="myStory" filter="[list[$:/StoryList]!tag[excludeStory]]">
<$button>{{$:/core/images/save-button}} Story to Default
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/DefaultTiddlers" $value=<>/>



I think this is very practical because you may not want to have dynamic 
defaultTiddlers all the time but consolidate a special moment.

Because there is enough space in the


   $:/core/ui/ControlPanel/Basics

 
below the defaultTiddlers-Field I would like to put it there.


And I would call the other button which sets the field to storyList 
Dynamic Default Tiddlers.


Does anyone else think this might be practical.


Best wishes Jan

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[tw5] Re: Sorting table of contents by multiple parameters

2018-04-24 Thread Fadel M

Hi Tony,

I had no idea I could re-arrange by drag and drop from the tag pill drop 
down, thanks for the pointer!

I couldn't think of a creative use for the code examples you gave though. 
It seemed to me like the functionality is already built in?

On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 4:27:19 AM UTC+3, TonyM wrote:
>
> Fadel,
>
> As a little side note/brain dump, since what you are doing here is 
> effectively altering the order of items tagging a given tiddler you can use 
> the show as tag pill.
>
>
> {{TableOfContents||$:/core/ui/TagTemplate}}
> or use the macro
> <>
>
> The Popup list of items tagging TableOfContents is thus sort-able using 
> drag and drop, try it. I always install the Open All 
> plugin $:/plugins/ajh/openall (I am trying to locate the Source) which adds 
> the ability to open all items so tagged from the Tag pill popup.
> Note: all tiddlers tagged with the current tiddler can also be found in 
> Info button tagging, however by default this is not drag-able (as yet).
>
> Once you have a populated list in the relevant tiddler eg TableOfContents 
> in the "list" field you could perhaps provide alternate ways to sort the 
> items in this list with a click. Alpha, date field etc.. I am yet to 
> explore this in detail.
>
> If you use the macrocall method to invoke the tag macro you can make this 
> use the current tiddler
> <$macrocall $name="tag" tag=<>/>
> Thus this can be placed in a tiddler tagged $:/tags/ViewTemplate to 
> appear in all tiddlers.
>
> Alternatively I have just placed <$macrocall $name="tag" 
> tag=<>/> in the core tiddler $:/
> core/ui/ViewTemplate/subtitle 
> NB: This will over ride the shadow tiddler.
>
> Wrapping it in the following, it will only show if the current tiddler 
> tags at least one tiddler.
>
> <$list filter="[is[current]tagging[]limit[1]]" variable=null>
> <$macrocall $name="tag" tag=<>/>
> 
>
> I hope this gives you some thing to play with.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
>
> On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 2:32:03 AM UTC+10, Fadel M wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> From what I understand, the default sort for the table of contents is by 
>> the *created* field. The *list* field overrides the sort by putting the 
>> listed tiddler titles on top in listed order.
>>
>> What I'd like to achieve is to sort the contents by title, but keep the 
>> ability of the *list* field to prioritize some of the tiddlers. I'm not 
>> sure how to do this, since I'm not very familiar with the inner workings. 
>>
>> The way I imagine it is by populating the *list *field as below
>> list: Tiddler1 Tiddler2 Tiddler3 sort[title] Tiddler200 Tiddler300
>>
>> But of course, this doesn't work. Could anyone point me in the right 
>> direction?
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Sorting table of contents by multiple parameters

2018-04-24 Thread Fadel M

"I think you have to re-write the macro."

I just took a look at the macro tiddler... yeah... that's not happening any 
time soon :D
Oh well, I guess I'll have to make do with what's available right now.

On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 1:31:01 AM UTC+3, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I think you would have to re-write the macro. There is a sort argument for 
> the macro, but it would get applied at every sub-level so wouldn't be 
> useful unless you only have one level of tiddlers.
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Sunday, April 22, 2018 at 1:04:04 PM UTC-7, Fadel M wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for replying! That's a good way to do it.
>>
>> Ah, so there's no way to do it without excluding the unsorted tiddlers 
>> from the sort?
>> I can't understand how the default sort does it though. You just have to 
>> write the name of the tiddlers you want first in the *list* field, and 
>> the rest are automatically sorted by *created*. Is it just that it's a 
>> more low level thing than toc macros?
>>
>> Also, while this solution is more than enough for my purposes, I'm 
>> curious as to whether there is a way to do it automatically without a 
>> button? Perhaps by modifying the way the macro works?
>>
>> On Sunday, April 22, 2018 at 10:29:12 PM UTC+3, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> If you want to use the existing toc macros then you will need to modify 
>>> the list field of your root (top) tiddler.  Here's an example that 
>>> rearranges the default listing for HelloThere on tiddlywiki.com, :-) 
>>> putting Examples first, and Discover TiddlyWiki last.
>>>
>>> <$button> <$action-listops $tiddler=HelloThere $field="list" 
>>> $filter="Examples [tag[HelloThere]![Examples]![Discover TiddlyWiki]sort[]] 
>>> [[Discover TiddlyWiki]]"/> Populate 'myfield'  
>>>
>>>
>>> For your situation,  you will need some way to discriminate sorted 
>>> tiddlers from non- sorted tiddlers. Then you can use a filter in your 
>>> button like
>>>
>>> Tiddler1 Tiddler2 Tiddler3 [tag[sorted]sort[title]] Tiddler200 
>>>
>>> --Mark
>>> On Sunday, April 22, 2018 at 9:32:03 AM UTC-7, Fadel M wrote:

 Hi,

 From what I understand, the default sort for the table of contents is 
 by the *created* field. The *list* field overrides the sort by putting 
 the listed tiddler titles on top in listed order.

 What I'd like to achieve is to sort the contents by title, but keep the 
 ability of the *list* field to prioritize some of the tiddlers. I'm 
 not sure how to do this, since I'm not very familiar with the inner 
 workings. 

 The way I imagine it is by populating the *list *field as below
 list: Tiddler1 Tiddler2 Tiddler3 sort[title] Tiddler200 Tiddler300

 But of course, this doesn't work. Could anyone point me in the right 
 direction?

>>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Revisiting the outliner idea

Hi Mario!

I just made some modifications to your tocP and got a step further. Here is
the result so far

http://giffmex.org/experiments/twdynaflowy.html#HQ2

Thanks again.

David Gifford
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On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 12:31 PM, PMario  wrote:

> Hi Dave,
>
> I did create a tocP plugin some time ago: https://wikilabs.github.io/
> editions/tocP/
>
>  - It uses a "parent-field" instead of tags to create the TOC structure.
>- It also implements a "new-child-here" button, similar to your +
> buttons.
>
>  - It can use different fields to build a TOC.
>- So there can be several tocP's using the same tiddlers, but creating
> a different structure
>
>  - I also did create a tocMerge-experiment macro, that allows us to
> combine tag-based and field-based TOCs into one outline
>
> So with some work it would be possible to create a relatively flexible
> outline structure, if we would combine these functionalities.
>
> It would be also possible to show "caption" or "subtitle" field instead of
> the tiddler title, if those fields exist.
>
> An advanced possibility would be to create the structure completely
> independent of the tiddler titles. Only using fields.
>
> So renaming tiddlers would not mess with the outline structure. This would
> give us much more flexibility.
>
> Just some ideas.
>
> have fun!
> mario
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[tw5] Re: Who knows about Gaming and Gaming Campaigns in TiddlyWiki?

2018-04-24 Thread Jed Carty

In this context a campaign is the name given to the ongoing game. So if you 
have a game that you play once a week with persistent characters and story 
for a long time that is called the campaign and can be made up of many 
shorter stories or sessions.

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Re: [tw5] Re: Revisiting the outliner idea

Wow, those are a lot of great ideas to think about and play with! Thanks
Mario!

I totally forgot I had an outlining section of my toolmap. I should also go
browse the other entries in that section...

David Gifford
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On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 12:31 PM, PMario  wrote:

> Hi Dave,
>
> I did create a tocP plugin some time ago: https://wikilabs.github.io/
> editions/tocP/
>
>  - It uses a "parent-field" instead of tags to create the TOC structure.
>- It also implements a "new-child-here" button, similar to your +
> buttons.
>
>  - It can use different fields to build a TOC.
>- So there can be several tocP's using the same tiddlers, but creating
> a different structure
>
>  - I also did create a tocMerge-experiment macro, that allows us to
> combine tag-based and field-based TOCs into one outline
>
> So with some work it would be possible to create a relatively flexible
> outline structure, if we would combine these functionalities.
>
> It would be also possible to show "caption" or "subtitle" field instead of
> the tiddler title, if those fields exist.
>
> An advanced possibility would be to create the structure completely
> independent of the tiddler titles. Only using fields.
>
> So renaming tiddlers would not mess with the outline structure. This would
> give us much more flexibility.
>
> Just some ideas.
>
> have fun!
> mario
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Re: [tw5] Re: Revisiting the outliner idea

This one. I got a little overly defensive about outliners since most
comments in this group, that I have read, have been a little negative

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/RNqJR1s6ysk

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On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 12:39 PM, PMario  wrote:

> On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 4:26:08 PM UTC+2, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> I felt so bad for derailing a recent thread on using TW as an outliner,
>> and dousing cold water on the discussion,
>>
>
> Which one? I do remember some outlining discussion, but have no link
> anymore.
>
> Can you point me into the right direction?
>
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[tw5] Re: Revisiting the outliner idea

On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 4:26:08 PM UTC+2, David Gifford wrote:
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> I felt so bad for derailing a recent thread on using TW as an outliner, 
> and dousing cold water on the discussion,
>

Which one? I do remember some outlining discussion, but have no link 
anymore. 

Can you point me into the right direction?

-m

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[tw5] Re: Revisiting the outliner idea

Hi Dave,

I did create a tocP plugin some time ago:
https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/tocP/

- It uses a "parent-field" instead of tags to create the TOC structure.
- It also implements a "new-child-here" button, similar to your +
buttons.

- It can use different fields to build a TOC.
- So there can be several tocP's using the same tiddlers, but creating a
different structure

- I also did create a tocMerge-experiment macro, that allows us to combine
tag-based and field-based TOCs into one outline

So with some work it would be possible to create a relatively flexible
outline structure, if we would combine these functionalities.

It would be also possible to show "caption" or "subtitle" field instead of
the tiddler title, if those fields exist.

An advanced possibility would be to create the structure completely
independent of the tiddler titles. Only using fields.

So renaming tiddlers would not mess with the outline structure. This would
give us much more flexibility.

Just some ideas.

have fun!
mario

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[tw5] Re: Inserting macro-call into tiddlers with CSS stylesheets

2018-04-24 Thread Mat


>
> PS: How can I marked this thread as solved? It's the first time I post here
>

Don't do that actually. It is only distracting and people have a tendency 
to pick up on posts regardless if the original question has been answered 
or not.

BTW, good to see you here!

<:-) 

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[tw5] Re: Who knows about Gaming and Gaming Campaigns in TiddlyWiki?

2018-04-24 Thread Mat

On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 2:20:01 PM UTC+2, Matthew Lauber wrote:
>
> I've got a few campaigns I'm planning/running in TiddlyWiki, but nothing I 
> can just pickup and hand off as a plugin or edition.  I'm happy to answer 
> questions though.
>

OK, I'm still curious what you guys mean with "campaign". To me, a 
"campaign" is a kind of marketing event or advertising.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Is it possible to re-order table of content items?

Hi,

If you use tag based TOC there's an easy workaround. ... Just create a tag 
pill like eg: <>

If you click it, you'll get a dropdown. This dropdown is drag & drop-able. 
If you change order there, it will modify the "list-field in the HelloThere 
tiddler, which in turn is used to sort the tagged list. 

If you want to change order often, there should be a permanent solution. 
But IMO this is a fast "hack" 

have fun!
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[tw5] Re: Multi Tiddler Export

2018-04-24 Thread Shawn Murdock

PMario,
  Thanks a lot. I am going to check it out now.



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> Hi, 
>
> The Bundler-plugin, that I created may be an option.
>
> See: Intro thread 
> and The 
> plugin 
> 
> !
>
> have fun!
> mario
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[tw5] Revisiting the outliner idea

Hi all

I felt so bad for derailing a recent thread on using TW as an outliner, and 
dousing cold water on the discussion, that I revisited the idea and wanted 
to extend an olive branch as my way of apologizing to Tony and Vytas and 
others there.

Here is a quick idea I came up with. I made some progress, and outline what 
would still need to be figured out: 
http://giffmex.org/experiments/twdynaflowy.html#Progress%20and%20problems:%5B%5BProgress%20and%20problems%5D%5D%20HQ%20%24%3A%2F.giffmex%2Ftoc.children%20%24%3A%2F.giffmex%2Ftocstylesheet%20%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fmacros%2Ftoc

Blessings, Dave

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[tw5] Is it possible to re-order table of content items?

2018-04-24 Thread kelsang sherab

 I've now doubt its possible to re-order the items in a table of content.
I could do with an epxlantion of how.
Thanks

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[tw5] TopStoryView plugon with no icon!

2018-04-24 Thread Mohammad

The TopStoryView is wonderful plugin can be downloaded 
from https://github.com/felixhayashi/TW5-TopStoryView
Unfortunately it has no icon and adding it to tools in TW sidebar causes 
nothing to show to be selected when you want to 
change the story view! How can I add an icon to this pluggin keeping it 
untouched.

Best
Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: Multi Tiddler Export

Hi, 

The Bundler-plugin, that I created may be an option.

See: Intro thread 
and The 
plugin 

!

have fun!
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[tw5] Re: NoteSelf uses local browser storage seamlessly with a remote synching server

2018-04-24 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki



On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 1:07:39 AM UTC-7, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> SQL is optimised around having a known number of columns with a known type 
> in each column which isn't a good match for tiddlywiki because tiddlers can 
> have any number of custom fields they would all be stored as a single text 
> blob anyway.
>
>
You would only need to put a handful of fields into actual SQL fields and 
roll the rest into some sort of blob. The advantage is that there are a 
large number of hosts that offer MySQL thanks to cpanel. But couch is not 
offered at all. With skinny loading, you could have a working TW with as 
many tiddlers as the SQL system could handle.

The last time I tried Noteself, I found that I could not cleanly delete and 
restore an instance. This suggests that there is data being left behind. 
This would worry me in any situation where security is a concern.

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[tw5] Re: Multi Tiddler Export

2018-04-24 Thread Shawn Murdock

Wow that was quick; this community Rocks.
Thank you. I had a feeling there was something in there that would allow 
this. Sorry I missed it. 
Again Thank you.



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>
> The answer is quick but unfortunately not obvious.
>
> Go to the $:/AdvancedSearch tiddler (click on the magnifying glass icon 
> next to the search in the side bar) and in that tiddler open the Filter 
> tab. In the text box there enter a filter that list all the tiddlers you 
> want to export (in your example the filter would be [tag[How To's]] ), 
> below the text box you should see a list of all the tiddlers. Then click on 
> the export icon to the right of the text box (it has an arrow pointing up) 
> and select JSON File from the list that pops up. It should download a json 
> file that contains all the tiddlers listed.
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[tw5] Re: Tiddler width and sidebar position

2018-04-24 Thread Ed

Hi Sjaak,

Did you click on the double chevron in upper right corner,
that will change the size of the story river and reveal the sidebar.

Other standard choices, two actually.
Click "Open Control Panel" icon.
Click "Appearances"
Click "Team Tweaks"
Find "Sidebar lay-out"
Click "Fixed Story, fluid sidebar"
Choose "Fluid story, fixed sidebar"

Vriendelijke Groeten! Ed.

Op dinsdag 24 april 2018 13:46:22 UTC+2 schreef Sjaak Adriaanse:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I updated from 5.0.12-beta to 5.1.15, but now the tiddlers take up the 
> whole width of the screen, so the sidebar disappears behind them. Also the 
> sidebar is positioned too far to the bottom of the screen. How can I change 
> the standard tiddler width and sidebar position?
>
> At the moment my experience with TW is content-only (tiddlers, links, 
> tags) but I want to dig deeper in the possibilities.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Greetings,
> Sjaak
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Re: [tw5] HammerWidgets UPDATE

2018-04-24 Thread BurningTreeC


>
> Hi Simon, Jan,
>
> Just for background on the design of the Cecily prototype, the motivation 
> for the ability to move and resize tiddlers was so that the creator of a 
> map can use the size and position of tiddlers to convey their 
> relationships. For example, a bunch of similarly sized items all lined up 
> invites the user to infer that they are related. Or, one item much larger 
> than the others implies that it is the most important.
>
> The zooming behaviour is needed so that tiddlers of very different sizes 
> can be readable. Otherwise the range of practical tiddler sizes would be 
> constrained by the readability of the font size.
>
>
Thanks for explaining Jeremy!

As I understand the idea is basically something like a "tiddler-cloud" 
where one or more are the parents and the children are smaller in size and 
one can zoom into the children and out from the children to their parents

Such a "cloud" could be made with the tools the hammerwidgets provide - 
tiddlers can be positioned relative to other tiddlers

The missing part is a tm-navigate message that accepts a zoom attribute 
that scales the viewport by a value saved in a tiddler-field or a related 
tiddler


Simon

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[tw5] Re: Multi Tiddler Export

2018-04-24 Thread Jed Carty

The answer is quick but unfortunately not obvious.

Go to the $:/AdvancedSearch tiddler (click on the magnifying glass icon 
next to the search in the side bar) and in that tiddler open the Filter 
tab. In the text box there enter a filter that list all the tiddlers you 
want to export (in your example the filter would be [tag[How To's]] ), 
below the text box you should see a list of all the tiddlers. Then click on 
the export icon to the right of the text box (it has an arrow pointing up) 
and select JSON File from the list that pops up. It should download a json 
file that contains all the tiddlers listed.

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[tw5] Multi Tiddler Export

2018-04-24 Thread Shawn Murdock

Hello,
First of all I would like to say how much I like Tiddlywiki. I really
enjoy using it to store all kinds of information. Someday, hopefully, I
will understand it enough that I can contribute to the community.

For now I want to know if there is a way to export multiple tiddlers to a
single json file. Say I have a bunch of individual tiddlers all tagged "How
To's" and I want to export them into a single json file, is this possible?
Basically I want to export a bunch of tiddlers that I use for inventory of
a bunch of servers. Each tiddler has custom fields I use for OS, CPU, and
such. I would like to export it all out to a json file, or even a csv I
suppose, so I can bring the data into another application, excel or a sqldb
for example.
I am trying to avoid having to go through and export each one individually
and then try using JQ to try to combine them into one file, (have not had
luck doing that).
Thanks for any help. I hope there is not an obvious answer that I somehow
missed.

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Re: [tw5] HammerWidgets UPDATE

Hi Simon, Jan,

Just for background on the design of the Cecily prototype, the motivation for 
the ability to move and resize tiddlers was so that the creator of a map can 
use the size and position of tiddlers to convey their relationships. For 
example, a bunch of similarly sized items all lined up invites the user to 
infer that they are related. Or, one item much larger than the others implies 
that it is the most important.

The zooming behaviour is needed so that tiddlers of very different sizes can be 
readable. Otherwise the range of practical tiddler sizes would be constrained 
by the readability of the font size.

Best wishes

Jeremy



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On 24 Apr 2018, at 12:40, BurningTreeC  wrote:

>> Hi Simon 
>> I did a little deconstruction-work to see how the cecilyView is configured. 
>> The result http://szenio.de/Pinnwand/ should be more easy to understand...
>> 
>> Yours Jan
>> 
> Hi Jan, I think it's better not to follow HOW cecily does it but more what it 
> does
> 
> - it creates something like a desk where you can move your papers around
> - it zooms in and out (necessary or too much?)
> - it lets you resize tiddlers
> - it lets you navigate in 2d space from tiddler to tiddler
> 
> Some of that is already accomplished on the hammerwidgets page:
> 
> - moving tiddlers
> - resizing (can be adapted for tiddlers)
> - navigation works out of the box
> 
> I'm not a fan of the zooming functionality per tiddler because the space in 
> 2d isn't limited and I don't see the benefit of it - besides the coolness 
> factor :P
> 
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[tw5] Re: Who knows about Gaming and Gaming Campaigns in TiddlyWiki?

2018-04-24 Thread Matthew Lauber

I've got a few campaigns I'm planning/running in TiddlyWiki, but nothing I 
can just pickup and hand off as a plugin or edition.  I'm happy to answer 
questions though.

Matt

On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 11:41:36 AM UTC-4, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
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> Who knows about Gaming and Gaming Campaigns in TiddlyWiki?
>
> There seems to be pent-up demand for examples, coding and variant ways 
> forward.
>
> The problem is I can't really quote anything, link to it, as it doesn't 
> exist.
>
> Can't we do better for obvious demands?
>
> Best wishes
> @TiddlyTweeter
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[tw5] Re: Who knows about Gaming and Gaming Campaigns in TiddlyWiki?

2018-04-24 Thread Mark Thomas

In role-playing games (RPGs), players take the role of a character in a 
fictional world and create a collaborative narrative. *Dungeons and Dragons* 
is probably the best-known tabletop RPG. In traditional RPGs, one player is 
the game master. He/she creates the fictional world and presents scenarios, 
encounters, and challenges to the other players. A campaign is a series of 
game sessions played out in a setting. Campaigns can be a bunch of random 
events linked only by the appearance of the characters or tell a larger 
story through a series of related scenes and scenarios.

As you might imagine, GMs keep records and some (like me) use TiddlyWiki. 
For example, here's the empty GM TiddlyWiki 

I created for recording campaign information.

On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 5:25:16 PM UTC-4, Mat wrote:
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> Who knows about Gaming and Gaming Campaigns in TiddlyWiki?
>>
>
> What are "gaming campaigns"? 
>
> <:-)
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[tw5] Tiddler width and sidebar position

2018-04-24 Thread Sjaak Adriaanse

Hi all,

I updated from 5.0.12-beta to 5.1.15, but now the tiddlers take up the 
whole width of the screen, so the sidebar disappears behind them. Also the 
sidebar is positioned too far to the bottom of the screen. How can I change 
the standard tiddler width and sidebar position?

At the moment my experience with TW is content-only (tiddlers, links, tags) 
but I want to dig deeper in the possibilities.

Thanks in advance!

Greetings,
Sjaak

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Re: [tw5] HammerWidgets UPDATE

2018-04-24 Thread BurningTreeC


>
> Hi Simon 
> I did a little deconstruction-work to see how the cecilyView is 
> configured. 
> The result http://szenio.de/Pinnwand/ should be more easy to understand...
>
> Yours Jan
>
> Hi Jan, I think it's better not to follow HOW cecily does it but more what 
it does

- it creates something like a desk where you can move your papers around
- it zooms in and out (necessary or too much?)
- it lets you resize tiddlers
- it lets you navigate in 2d space from tiddler to tiddler

Some of that is already accomplished on the hammerwidgets page:

- moving tiddlers
- resizing (can be adapted for tiddlers)
- navigation works out of the box

I'm not a fan of the zooming functionality per tiddler because the space in 
2d isn't limited and I don't see the benefit of it - besides the coolness 
factor :P

BTC

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[tw5] Re: Inserting macro-call into tiddlers with CSS stylesheets

2018-04-24 Thread Andres Gongora

I LOVE YOU!
This worked perfectly and did exactly what I wanted. Plus: the name of the 
tiddlers (one of my macro parameters) are resolved exactly at the correct 
spot. Thank you very much.

PS: How can I marked this thread as solved? It's the first time I post here

On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 1:23:54 PM UTC+2, PMario wrote:
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 12:03:22 PM UTC+2, Andres Gongora wrote:
>>
>> I'm trying to insert a macro-call into several tiddlers through 
>> stylesheets, 
>>
>
> Why? .. There are much simpler ways to do this?
>
> eg: create a tiddler: $:/myFooter  and 
> tag it: $:/tags/ViewTemplate 
>
> content:
>
> <$list filter="[all[current]tag[TOC]]">
>  your toc comes here ... 
> 
>
>
> You basically can use any field name / value combination you want, to 
> activate the block. ... Just if you don't want to use  a tag. 
>
> -m
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[tw5] Re: Inserting macro-call into tiddlers with CSS stylesheets


On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 12:03:22 PM UTC+2, Andres Gongora wrote:
>
> I'm trying to insert a macro-call into several tiddlers through 
> stylesheets, 
>

Why? .. There are much simpler ways to do this?

eg: create a tiddler: $:/myFooter  and 
tag it: $:/tags/ViewTemplate 

content:

<$list filter="[all[current]tag[TOC]]">
 your toc comes here ... 



You basically can use any field name / value combination you want, to 
activate the block. ... Just if you don't want to use  a tag. 

-m

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Re: [tw5] Inserting macro-call into tiddlers with CSS stylesheets

2018-04-24 Thread Andres Gongora

Thank you for your incredibly fast reply!
I tried as you suggested, but still no luck. I've included a new macro 
(mytoc2) rigth into the stylesheet, as well as the above rules, with no 
luck. I've tried to call in within the "content" section as well as a 
direct call to it. Still no luck.

tagged $:/tags/Stylesheet
\rules only filteredtranscludeinline transcludeinline macrodef 
macrocallinline

\define mytoc2(category)


<>


\end

.tc-tagged-toc .tc-tiddler-body:after {
content: '<$macrocall $name="mytoc2" category={{!!title}}/>';
}



On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 12:10:38 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Andres
>
> Does your stylesheet include the following pragma at the top?
>
> \rules only filteredtranscludeinline transcludeinline macrodef 
> macrocallinline
>
>
> If so, the problem will be that the list of allowed rules doesn't include 
> the rule that understands widget calls like you <$macrocall> widget.
>
>
> The cleanest way around this would be to put your macrocall widget into a 
> macro at the top of the stylesheet tiddler, and then invoke it in your 
> :after declaration (the rules pragma above allows the macro invocation 
> syntax).
>
>
> Best wishes
>
>
> Jeremy
>
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>
> On 24 Apr 2018, at 11:03, Andres Gongora  
> wrote:
>
> I'm trying to insert a macro-call into several tiddlers through 
> stylesheets, such that the macro is processed/called within the tiddler it 
> has been parsed into.
> Specifically, I'm trying to add a call to my custom TOC macro at the end 
> of all tiddlers tagged with TOC.
>
> However, it does not work. I can call my macro inside tiddlers with 
> *<$macrocall 
> $name="mytoc" category={{!!title}}/> *and it works fawlessly. But I'm 
> unable to "inject" it with CSS. 
> What am I missing?
>
>
>
> my code:
>
> *$:/macros/mytoc *(tagged $:/tags/Macro )
> \define mytoc(category)
> 
> 
> < """sort[title]""">>
> 
> 
> \end
>
>
> *$:/custom_styles *(tagged $:/tags/Stylesheet and of type 
> text/vnd.tiddlywiki)
> (this simply applies a box shadow to my TOCs)
>  .tc-custom-toc {
> border-radius: 4px;
> padding: 5px 10px;
> border: 1px solid <>;
> <>
> } 
>
>
> *$:/custom_styles2 *(tagged $:/tags/Stylesheet and of type text/css)
> (This should add the TOC macro call to all tiddlers tagged with "toc")
> .tc-tagged-toc .tc-tiddler-body:after {
> content: '<$macrocall $name="mytoc" category={{!!title}}/>';
> }
>
>
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Re: [tw5] Inserting macro-call into tiddlers with CSS stylesheets

Hi Andres

Does your stylesheet include the following pragma at the top?

\rules only filteredtranscludeinline transcludeinline macrodef macrocallinline

If so, the problem will be that the list of allowed rules doesn't include the 
rule that understands widget calls like you <$macrocall> widget.

The cleanest way around this would be to put your macrocall widget into a macro 
at the top of the stylesheet tiddler, and then invoke it in your :after 
declaration (the rules pragma above allows the macro invocation syntax).

Best wishes

Jeremy

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> On 24 Apr 2018, at 11:03, Andres Gongora  wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to insert a macro-call into several tiddlers through stylesheets, 
> such that the macro is processed/called within the tiddler it has been parsed 
> into.
> Specifically, I'm trying to add a call to my custom TOC macro at the end of 
> all tiddlers tagged with TOC.
> 
> However, it does not work. I can call my macro inside tiddlers with 
> <$macrocall $name="mytoc" category={{!!title}}/> and it works fawlessly. But 
> I'm unable to "inject" it with CSS. 
> What am I missing?
> 
> 
> 
> my code:
> 
> $:/macros/mytoc (tagged $:/tags/Macro )
> \define mytoc(category)
> 
> 
> < sort:"""sort[title]""">>
> 
> 
> \end
> 
> 
> $:/custom_styles (tagged $:/tags/Stylesheet and of type text/vnd.tiddlywiki)
> (this simply applies a box shadow to my TOCs)
>  .tc-custom-toc {
> border-radius: 4px;
> padding: 5px 10px;
> border: 1px solid <>;
> <>
> } 
> 
> 
> $:/custom_styles2 (tagged $:/tags/Stylesheet and of type text/css)
> (This should add the TOC macro call to all tiddlers tagged with "toc")
> .tc-tagged-toc .tc-tiddler-body:after {
> content: '<$macrocall $name="mytoc" category={{!!title}}/>';
> }
> 
> 
> 
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[tw5] Inserting macro-call into tiddlers with CSS stylesheets

2018-04-24 Thread Andres Gongora

I'm trying to insert a macro-call into several tiddlers through 
stylesheets, such that the macro is processed/called within the tiddler it 
has been parsed into.
Specifically, I'm trying to add a call to my custom TOC macro at the end of 
all tiddlers tagged with TOC.

However, it does not work. I can call my macro inside tiddlers with 
*<$macrocall 
$name="mytoc" category={{!!title}}/> *and it works fawlessly. But I'm 
unable to "inject" it with CSS. 
What am I missing?



my code:

*$:/macros/mytoc *(tagged $:/tags/Macro )
\define mytoc(category)


<>


\end


*$:/custom_styles *(tagged $:/tags/Stylesheet and of type 
text/vnd.tiddlywiki)
(this simply applies a box shadow to my TOCs)
 .tc-custom-toc {
border-radius: 4px;
padding: 5px 10px;
border: 1px solid <>;
<>
} 


*$:/custom_styles2 *(tagged $:/tags/Stylesheet and of type text/css)
(This should add the TOC macro call to all tiddlers tagged with "toc")
.tc-tagged-toc .tc-tiddler-body:after {
content: '<$macrocall $name="mytoc" category={{!!title}}/>';
}




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[tw5] Re: NoteSelf uses local browser storage seamlessly with a remote synching server

2018-04-24 Thread Jed Carty

I don't have any real experience using NoteSelf but I do know a bit about
databases. You can have variable length columns in MySQL, each column has a
type which determines the allowed content and some types have limits on the
size but text columns can have variable lengths.

SQL is optimised around having a known number of columns with a known type
in each column which isn't a good match for tiddlywiki because tiddlers can
have any number of custom fields they would all be stored as a single text
blob anyway.

But it should be possible to host your own CouchDB server on a raspberry pi
or whatever hardware you have available so I don't think that there is a
reason to use MySQL, if I understand correctly you could set up a CouchDB
server on your local network and it would sync with remote changes or you
could just use it on your local network.

I know very little about docker and the few times I tried to use it I gave
up and just installed everything manually. I am often wrong about the
relative levels of expertise needed for things like this but I think that
if you are comfortable setting up a raspberry pi setting up the CouchDB
server shouldn't be much of a stretch, there are instructions here
https://andyfelong.com/2017/09/couchdb-2-1-on-raspberry-pi-raspbian-stretch/

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Re: [tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 9:56:08 AM UTC+2, PMario wrote:
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> On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 9:22:18 AM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> Anyhow, I intend to release 5.1.16 later today unless anyone has any 
>> showstopper concerns (I do intend to merge Matt's range widget before the 
>> release).
>>
>
> Hi, 
>
> Could you have a closer look at: Add data attributes to ViewTemplate #3209 
>  too?
>

Most of it is documentation. Only the ViewTemplate contains some changes. 
Example can be seen at: 2737.tiddlyspot.com 


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Re: [tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 9:22:18 AM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
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> Anyhow, I intend to release 5.1.16 later today unless anyone has any 
> showstopper concerns (I do intend to merge Matt's range widget before the 
> release).
>

Hi, 

Could you have a closer look at: Add data attributes to ViewTemplate #3209 
 too?

-m

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Re: [tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

2018-04-24 Thread Brady77

I'm really sorry to hear that, Jeremy. Any inflammation that affects the 
joints area is extremely painful (from my own experience, unfortunately). 
After weeks of agony I luckily found an effective treatment by combining 
prescribed "Western" anti-inflammatory drugs with Traditional Chinese 
Medicine herbs. Should you need some information, drop me a private 
message. Wish you quick relief.

Petr

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Re: [tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16