[tw5] Re: [TW5] New Plugin: BobSaver, using Bob as a saver for single file wikis

[Stefan Pfister]

Thanks it works fine on linux. On windows10 the 64bit-bobexe opens a 
terminal window and shows some messages of the node.js. It stays open all 
the time when bobwin.exe is running. How can I avoid this terminal window? 
I want to run the bobserver invisible at the background.

Am Sonntag, 24. November 2019 13:58:49 UTC+1 schrieb Jed Carty:
>
> Stefan,
>
> yes, you can suppress the browser opening. I will add a checkbox in the 
> control panel for this in the next version, but for now you need to edit 
> the manual settings.
>

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[tw5] Re: How to Create a Button to Copy the Text to Clipboard?

[James]

Thank you Ton.

Would it be possible if we could use the java function in TW5?


On Monday, 25 November 2019 18:42:13 UTC+8, Ton Gerner wrote:
>
> Hi James,
>
> Have a look at https://tiddlywiki.com/#copy-to-clipboard%20Macro
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ton
>
>

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[tw5] Re: The last word in Saving?

[TonyM]

Mark,

I agree for most new users what you say is true, In part this is why I 
suggested this should move to another thread, however once setup, from 
memory there is a way to fork an existing Site very easily. Perhaps one day 
this will be the future?

Regards
Tony

On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 4:35:10 PM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>
> You have to install a browser. Create a site. Load a tiddlywiki into the 
> site. Then set up the site to synchronize with a given place on your hard 
> drive (assuming you want your data to be backed up). Then repeat for each 
> tiddlywiki you want to access.
>
> That doesn't sound beginner friendly. Or even regular friendly. 
>
> I feel like Beaker is a solution looking for a problem ...
>
> On Monday, November 25, 2019 at 7:49:16 AM UTC-8, Chuck R. wrote:
>>
>> Ok I'll just throw this out. 
>>
>> Beaker Browser is a P2P browser where you can edit your own websites 
>> using Markdown. It relies on the DAT protocol, but you also have to have 
>> your BB (Beaker Browser) running if you want people to see your HTML pages. 
>> https://beakerbrowser.com 
>>
>> Pros: 
>>
>>1. Markdown is easy to use even for beginners. The learning curve is 
>>short. 
>>2. Hashbase.io can be used to host sites so you don't have to have BB 
>>running all the time. 
>>
>> Notes: 
>>
>>1. Unknown support for multiple users editing documents. I doubt 
>>there is support for that at all. It's still in beta. 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: The last word in Saving?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

You have to install a browser. Create a site. Load a tiddlywiki into the 
site. Then set up the site to synchronize with a given place on your hard 
drive (assuming you want your data to be backed up). Then repeat for each 
tiddlywiki you want to access.

That doesn't sound beginner friendly. Or even regular friendly. 

I feel like Beaker is a solution looking for a problem ...

On Monday, November 25, 2019 at 7:49:16 AM UTC-8, Chuck R. wrote:
>
> Ok I'll just throw this out. 
>
> Beaker Browser is a P2P browser where you can edit your own websites using 
> Markdown. It relies on the DAT protocol, but you also have to have your BB 
> (Beaker Browser) running if you want people to see your HTML pages. 
> https://beakerbrowser.com 
>
> Pros: 
>
>1. Markdown is easy to use even for beginners. The learning curve is 
>short. 
>2. Hashbase.io can be used to host sites so you don't have to have BB 
>running all the time. 
>
> Notes: 
>
>1. Unknown support for multiple users editing documents. I doubt there 
>is support for that at all. It's still in beta. 
>
>
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: The penultimate words on saving - multi access and multi user

[TonyM]

Original post updated with

Alternative thread Title: *"TiddlyWiki Encounters of the Third Kind"*

   - *First = Initial single file wiki on internet*
   - *Second = Single File or read only wiki published on a server*
   - *Third = Delivered on a platform that permits multi-access or 
   multi-user (simultaneously)*


On Monday, November 25, 2019 at 9:41:02 AM UTC+11, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks. (edited)
>
> Alternative thread Title: *"TiddlyWiki Encounters of the Third Kind"*
> *First = Initial single file wiki on internet*
> *Second = Single File or read only wiki published on a server*
> *Third = Delivered on a platform that permits multi-access or multi-user 
> (simultaneously)*
>
> This thread in an intentional fork of the last word in saving thread. I am 
> keen to keep the last word in saving focused on single file wikis and a 
> simple path for even new users to make it their own. Invariably this bleeds 
> into multi user and multi access implementation so please raise it here 
> instead.
>
>
>- Multi access - more than one user updating a tiddlywiki at the same 
>time 
>- Multi user - more than one user updating a single wiki can be with 
>serial editing or multi access
>
> *The only multi access solution I am aware of is Jeds wonderful bob server 
> which addresses the contention when editing tiddlers. Please advise if 
> other wise, perhaps noteself can when configured for cloudDB. *
>
>
> Please share your ideas, experience and more on multi access and multi 
> user tiddlywiki such that we can develop new approaches and documentation 
> or identify gaps we can address as a community.
>
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> Post Script
>
> Using multi-access and Multi-user implementations of Tiddlywiki can also 
> be extended to multi-device solutions. Such as you would like a tiddlywiki 
> on your mobile and access it on your desktop. Such solutions can make use 
> of a server based solution as needed with multi-access and multi-user (of 
> the simultaneous type)  or single file based wikis stored on a cloud 
> service such as Google Drive, Microsoft One Drive, Dropbox and more. 
> Where possible please keep this thread focused on Node, server or folder 
> based solutions and see the discussion  *the Last Word in Saving 
> * for 
> single file wikis.
>
>

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[tw5] Re: The last word in Saving?

[TonyM]

Original Post updated with 

Alternative thread Title: *"TiddlyWiki Encounters of the First Kind"*

Tony

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[tw5] Re: Limits of Tiddlywiki 5.1.19?

[TonyM]

Chuck,

Tiddler titles are a strings with an effectively infinite number of values. 
No need to ask about these as a limitation unless you have a specific 
numerical issue in the very large numbers. What in your needs do you feel 
would challenge this?

For mathematically intensive applications the addition of a javascript 
maths library as already available in a number of plugins can lift these 
limits higher, and for the hyper mathematical algorithms I can only 
speculate on, if you understand the algorithm you could represent it in 
different ways to overcome almost any barrier with only computational time 
your restriction (This is my informed speculation).

Even with Javascript limitations you can use methods to define new types 
and overcome most limits that you may come across, otherwise you may need a 
super computer.

Regards
Tony


On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 2:44:38 AM UTC+11, Chuck R. wrote:
>
> Oops, the NUMBER of values in a 16-bit system is 65536, the largest value, 
> starting at 0, would be 65535.
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Limits of Tiddlywiki 5.1.19?

[TonyM]

Chuck,

As you can see from other answers it is similar to "How long is a piece of 
string?"


   - There are multiple tricks and optimisations, you can use a server and 
   have external media, lazy loading and more. 
   - Clearly with a really massive tiddlywiki you may need to start making 
   choices. choices that are influenced by if this internet available, is it 
   private on local disk or LAN only. 
   - Since I use a lot of tiddlywikis I allow my browsers to use more RAM 
   but I would not expect others to configure their browsers this way.

Marks suggestion of testing it is good, try and make it shareable so people 
can help. 

Of note when mark raised this issue of the 66,000 tiddlers I found a 
performance improvement as well which was different from the one Mark 
finally used. So if he gets a new bottle neck I can help him get further 
performance improvements. 


Unlike other environments there are a lot of ways to manipulate tiddlywiki 
to reach a destination, so I think it is worthwhile trusting the platform 
even although you may still ask questions we have not answered yet.

This is a vital community and you can count on us to help. 

In the *unlikely* case tiddlywiki proves not to be adequate, you will still 
have organised, designed, prototyped and studied your needs such that 
choosing something else will be much easier.

Regards
Tony



On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 12:00:38 AM UTC+11, Chuck R. wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of the limits of TW 5.x? 
>
>1. What is the max number of tiddlers in a file? 
>2. What is the max amount of text that can be in a tiddler? 
>3. Is there a max file size for the html file itself?
>
>
> Thank you. 
>

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[tw5] Re: Bulk Import of Plain TXT Files into Full Tiddlers

[TonyM]

Qalisto

Using the import facility you can import many file types into tiddlywiki. 
Text in particular will exist within the body or text field of the each 
tiddler. 

Unlike the default import if you look at the BrowseWidget 
 you have a parameter "multiple",
 where by it is easy to select multiple files to import at once. 

Once you have all (or a sample of) your text files imported you can set 
about designing ways to manipulate the content of your tiddlers, 
perhaps generate new ones with structured data, perhaps parse them or build 
a viewtemplate that interrogates the text field.

Perhaps you could extract information from tiddlers and feed it into data 
tiddlers or push it into the fields of tiddlers.

The sky is the limit if you ask me.

Regards
Tony


On Thursday, November 21, 2019 at 11:32:31 AM UTC+11, Qalisto wrote:
>
> Relative to my prior post about migration of data from old PIM, I wonder 
> what is the "state of the art" for TW5 for potential 'bulk import' of a 
> correctly pre-formatted plain text file consisting of text paragraphs that 
> I want to become Tiddlers.
>
> Even better, is there a coding trick which will enable me to "format" the 
> Text Blocks in order to create new Tiddlers, en masse, where the Tiddler 
> "Title", "Tag" and then the "block of text" will neatly IMPORT?
>
> I saw a project here:  https://kookma.github.io/TW-Commander/ 
>
> It looks recent.  Will this do the trick?  (Or is it still being tested? 
> )I don't want to try something that looks promising, but may 
> inadvertently "corrupt" my master TW5 file simply owing to its "youth".
>
> Regards,
> == Q
>

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[tw5] Re: The penultimate words on saving - multi access and multi user

[TonyM]

Just some thoughts;

Tw-Receiver is one of my favorite extensions that allows a Single File 
tiddlywiki online to save to the server via php. 

It is somewhat secure because the passcode to save can be stored only in 
local storage and you can't save without it, Using a server such as an 
apache server is easy as most online hosting accounts allow this. However 
this solution is currently limited to single file wikis and is thus 
dependant of the provision of check in and out or serial editor access. 


   - Could we ever implement a full tiddlywiki server on PHP? with 
   multi-access and multi-user

My own internet host does allow me to run an internet facing Node server 
but I am not sure about its security and its seriously hacky because my 
service provider does not support it as a mainstream solution. Node can be 
implemented through Docker.

Noteself using cloudDB and the interim pouchDB is a great solution and 
being Database driven supports tiddler versions and more. But not 
multi-user? Yes single user multiple device perhaps (multi-access). I have 
found it hard locating an online CounchDB service or hosting it myself.

Being a fan boy and experienced wordpress developer I see value if we could 
use a MySQL database for tiddlywiki, since these databases are available 
all over the place on cheap hosting services. Further benefit would accrue 
if wordpress could see tiddlers and tiddlywiki could see wordpress posts 
and pages. We can already integrate somewhat Tiddlywiki into wordpress 
sites just not at the tiddler level, only wiki level.

Regards
Tony

On Monday, November 25, 2019 at 9:41:02 AM UTC+11, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks. (edited)
>
> This thread in an intentional fork of the last word in saving thread. I am 
> keen to keep the last word in saving focused on single file wikis and a 
> simple path for even new users to make it their own. Invariably this bleeds 
> into multi user and multi access implementation so please raise it here 
> instead.
>
>
>- Multi access - more than one user updating a tiddlywiki at the same 
>time 
>- Multi user - more than one user updating a single wiki can be with 
>serial editing or multi access
>
> *The only multi access solution I am aware of is Jeds wonderful bob server 
> which addresses the contention when editing tiddlers. Please advise if 
> other wise, perhaps noteself can when configured for cloudDB. *
>
>
> Please share your ideas, experience and more on multi access and multi 
> user tiddlywiki such that we can develop new approaches and documentation 
> or identify gaps we can address as a community.
>
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> Post Script
>
> Using multi-access and Multi-user implementations of Tiddlywiki can also 
> be extended to multi-device solutions. Such as you would like a tiddlywiki 
> on your mobile and access it on your desktop. Such solutions can make use 
> of a server based solution as needed with multi-access and multi-user (of 
> the simultaneous type)  or single file based wikis stored on a cloud 
> service such as Google Drive, Microsoft One Drive, Dropbox and more. 
> Where possible please keep this thread focused on Node, server or folder 
> based solutions and see the discussion  *the Last Word in Saving 
> * for 
> single file wikis.
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: The penultimate words on saving - multi access and multi user

[TonyM]

Folks,

This is a penultimate question in so far as it is not the last Question we 
need to answer *How do we enable saving tiddlywikis for **naive and casual 
users? in *The last word in Saving? 
 Ok 
perhaps it is not the perfect word but I do love it :) If multi-user was 
working we would guide *naive and casual users *to register and login in 
and that may be the end of the story in cases where tiddlywiki is published 
via a server. The penultimate question is for us to answer as designers and 
enthusiasts how can we deploy more sophisticated solutions.

Let us consider TT's Question

> But part of the issue is what is it [multi-user/Multi-access] for?


First I would like to acknowledge Jeds work as already delivering this as a 
solution, technically it is here.

Tiddlywiki's as personal repositories or for publishing readonly content is 
brilliant. People can even make it their own "fork" a published tiddlywiki 
but this is still quite limited when considered along side competing 
technologies such as cloud delivered multi-user applications, even the 
humble wordpress can have multiple simultaneous users with different access 
levels (built in) not dependent on the servers security model. 

As soon as you publish a wiki to an audience you may be interested in 
receiving feedback, allowing people to participate and add content. 
Publishing a wiki on your desktop at home or in an office on a lan for 
multiple-users to access for read only is trivial. As raised in The last 
word in Saving? 
 I am 
keen to enable a serial editing method on single file wikis to at least 
make Wikis editable in teams, if not constrained in the time domains, ie 
one editor at a time. If this were true with any single file wiki it would 
be very helpful. But it can be used on top of a server (If not somewhat 
irrelevant on Bob).

However most of can see the value of multi-access (So we do not break our 
own wikis in another tab/window or browser) or multi-user (simultaneously 
editors) and this is in my view the next functional step for designers, 
developer and enthusiasts. This is where Bob excels because it builds on 
the various tiddlywiki server options (Node) and provides the contention 
resolving layer. 

So I raised multi-user multi-access in its own thread to do the following;

   - Try and stop it distracting the discussion in The last word in Saving? 
    away 
   from single file wikis and users First encounter experience with users 
   making use of OR adopting tiddlywiki themself
   - Open a new discussion here so we can evaluate options and move forward 
   on this subject, which is subtly different from the question of using 
   server (node, TiddlyServer, Bob) or application implementation such as 
   (Apps, TiddlyDesktop ..)

As stated by me earlier is* Bob not already the answer?*

Yes, Bob probably is the answer to multi-access and multi user but the 
subject multi access and multi user need not be restricted to one solution. 
For example serial editing options on top of node will provide a 
constrained multi-user method so we should be open to discuss other methods 
of obtaining multi-access and multi-user.

Given the hard work has being done with Bob and now with Bob.exe (Ease of 
install) and the New Bob Saver Plugin (Which helps transition from single 
sile wikis to server based wikis) this thread also offers an opportunity to 
investigate and develop the workflows and ways to transition from single 
file wikis to robust multi-access and multi-user wikis. I would like us to 
find methods to document and ease this transition.

Once again I will call on the community to support Jed via his Patreon page 
because he deserves some compensation for his extensive work to bring these 
possibilities to TiddlyWiki. Please also consider others who make tireless 
contributions.

*I stand to learn more from the community but here is my "Working Vision".*

   - Using the bob saver plugin users can make tiddlywikis there own and 
   edit and save locally without Browser or Operating system barriers, 
   importantly using a platform based single executable install.
   - With Bob now installed they have access to a tiddlywiki server, 
   management and creation platform so they can enter the world of LAN 
   publishing, Multi-device access, multi access and multi user
   - That Bob and other options be explored further, then given the 
   additional support to give users of different experience levels to adopt 
   then turbocharge tiddlywiki.

Serious Questions that remain

   - How can we securely place a server and/or multi-access/multi-user 
   online?


Regards
Tony


On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 6:13:28 AM UTC+11, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> With Bob you can have one wiki open in multiple tabs with no 

[tw5] Re: The last word in Saving?

[TonyM]

Chuck,

Thanks for reiterating the potential value of beaker browser. Such new 
approaches to interacting on the internet stand to offer great value. Of 
course my original post on this thread asks *How do we enable saving 
tiddlywikis for **naive and casual users? *perhaps needing a special 
browser and introducing new concepts may be a "bridge too far" for such 
users.

I am myself an IT professional with decades of experience and I still 
struggle to grasp the best ways and future values we may be able to gain 
from the use of the beaker browser in general and specifically for 
tiddlywiki. So far I can only see its value as a way of publishing read 
only or forkable tiddlywiki, but I suspect I need to spend more time on 
this. 

Perhaps a new thread on making use of the beaker browser would be a good 
move, I would love to learn about workflows, futures and speculation of 
where we can take these two technologies (TW).

I expect in time The beaker browser and P2P models will become better 
understood by a general audience smoothing peoples transition to it , 
however I think as TiddlyWiki enthusiasts it would be good if we could 
explore its advantages and tricks and tips with "making use of it" so we 
can help tiddlywiki users know when to take that path. That's why I suggest 
a new thread. Would you consider stating one please, and sharing what you 
know in more detail?

Thanks
tony




On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 2:49:16 AM UTC+11, Chuck R. wrote:
>
> Ok I'll just throw this out. 
>
> Beaker Browser is a P2P browser where you can edit your own websites using 
> Markdown. It relies on the DAT protocol, but you also have to have your BB 
> (Beaker Browser) running if you want people to see your HTML pages. 
> https://beakerbrowser.com 
>
> Pros: 
>
>1. Markdown is easy to use even for beginners. The learning curve is 
>short. 
>2. Hashbase.io can be used to host sites so you don't have to have BB 
>running all the time. 
>
> Notes: 
>
>1. Unknown support for multiple users editing documents. I doubt there 
>is support for that at all. It's still in beta. 
>
>
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Bulk Import of Plain TXT Files into Full Tiddlers

[Michael Wiktowy]

Along the same lines, if you can get your text into a csv format, Evan's csv 
unpack plugin https://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/csv_unpack.html worked really 
well for me.

/Mike

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[tw5] Re: Bulk Import of Plain TXT Files into Full Tiddlers

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Qalisto

a correctly pre-formatted plain text file consisting of text paragraphs 
> that I want to become Tiddlers.


Would you be able to export to Excel (xlsx) too?

I just imported an export from a ticketing system into TW very successfully 
using https://tiddlywiki.com/editions/xlsx-utils/

Good luck!
Thomas

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[tw5] Bulk Import of Plain TXT Files into Full Tiddlers

[Ste Wilson]

Twcommander is quite new and shiny. 
As always back up! :)

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[tw5] Re: TW5 on nodejs via https and certificate-based user authentication using nginx as proxy

[Pietro Abano]

Hi Daniel,

thank you, interesting in any case.
I might try it.

Kind regards,

Pietro

On Friday, October 11, 2019 at 9:14:44 PM UTC+2, Daniel wrote:
>
> Hi Pietro,
> I myself wanted to have HTTPS to my wiki for some years, and just to add a 
> note around this subject (and perhaps some inspiration) I solved this 
> myself by running a proxy with let´s encrypt on a OPNsense firewall, And it 
> is glorious without any certifciate warnings.
> This requrires you to install the OPNsense firewall but if you are into 
> that sort of a thing it might be fun.
>
> I followed this guide in general for another site I have, but it works 
> just fine for Tiddlywiki as well or any other thing you would like to have 
> behind HTTPS.
> https://blog.bagro.se/lets-encrypt-with-haproxy-on-opnsense/
>
> Just wanted to share.
>
> Kind regards
>
> On Tuesday, October 1, 2019 at 5:10:50 PM UTC+2, Pietro Abano wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I could not find anything related to what I am trying to achieve here so 
>> if it's already covered somewhere please let me know.
>>
>> As much as I love Jed's amazing work on *BobWiki* because it changes the 
>> ball game for TW5 completely, allowing to share and work on something with 
>> a team, over a local network, there is one thing that I'm missing - user 
>> authentication.
>>
>> In my scenario it is not so much about who the actual individual is, only 
>> that it should be one of the authorized users.
>> So I thought the client certificate-based authentication would do it. I 
>> set up a reverse proxy using nginx to handle SSL/TLS (for the web server 
>> and the clients) and talking to a local nodejs application on client's 
>> behalf.
>>
>> After some reading about nginx and tweaking my nginx configs I am finally 
>> able to access the TW5 on nodejs via https and even authenticate to it 
>> (actually to nginx) with client X.509 certs, but unfortunatelly I hit a 
>> problem:
>>
>>- can't make any changes to TW5/BobWiki over the https.
>>
>>
>> The setup: 
>> the TW5 runs on nodejs at 127.0.0.1:8080
>> Tiddlywiki version 5.1.21 with Bob version 1.2.4
>> Serving on 127.0.0.1:8080
>>
>> on the same host with IP of 192.168.112.110 there's nginx listening at 80 
>> or 443 forwarding all traffic to http://127.0.0.1:8080
>>
>> It appears the TW5 is not aware of any requests done from the web client, 
>> while direct connection to nodejs works as usual.
>>
>> Not being a web developer nor an experienced sysadmin (just a tinker) I 
>> have no clue as to where to look. Is it something with my nginx 
>> configuration, more specifically with websockets? When looking at the data 
>> being tranferred (Chrome, Inspect, Network) e.g. when adding a new tiddler, 
>> I don't see much going on.
>>
>> I can see some websocket communication initiated by 
>> $:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/BrowserWebSocketsSetup.js which is different when 
>> I go directly to nodejs - there I can see $:/core/module/saver in 
>> action, while when I use the nginx-proxied access I don't see this at all.
>>
>> Another symptom of the behavior is that when two users connect to the 
>> same TW5 on nodejs, they both see any changes done by one of them in almost 
>> real-time without refreshing the page while in ngix-proxied https access no 
>> such on-screen update happens.
>>
>> Studying the errors in Chrome I've come up with this which seems relevant:
>> $:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/BrowserWebSocketsSetup.js:63 WebSocket connection 
>> to 'wss://192.168.112.110/' failed: Error during WebSocket handshake: 
>> Unexpected response code: 200 (of course without https, this looks like 
>> 'ws://192.168.112.110/')
>>
>> Btw, the Firefox's error pinpoints the line in the code (does not say 
>> which source, I assume it's this BrowserWebSocketsSetup.js):
>> Firefox can’t establish a connection to the server at wss://
>> 192.168.112.110/. line 11345 > eval:63:48
>>
>> This all happens regardless of http or https, it's the same error as long 
>> as nginx is in the middle.
>>
>> At various forums I found the solution for that Chrome error and it looks 
>> like a websocket configuration thing in nginx:
>>
>>- from https://github.com/websockets/ws/issues/979
>>
>> "*Had the same issue, my app is behind nginx. Making these changes to my 
>> Nginx config removed the error.*
>>
>> *location / {*
>> *proxy_pass http://localhost:8080 ;*
>> *proxy_http_version 1.1;*
>> *proxy_set_header Upgrade $http_upgrade;*
>> *proxy_set_header Connection "upgrade";*
>> *proxy_set_header Host $host;*
>> *}*
>> "
>>
>> The same changes did not help in my case, so it must be somewhere else, 
>> maybe in the BobWiki code.
>>
>> But that's about all I can do about it so I'd need someone's help.
>> Is there anyone here who would know where this comes from? 
>>
>> I can provide him/her with all the configs or even the full VM 
>> (Ubuntu18.04mini) if needed. 
>> But the cert-based authentication seems to be too attractive for me to 
>> 

[tw5] Re: Limits of Tiddlywiki 5.1.19?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I'm the guy with 60,000 plus tiddlers. That turned out to be an issue with 
tag optimization. I changed my
filters to not use the tag operator, and now my TW app works reasonably 
well even on a Kindle Fire.

You might do a search on javascript abilities. A quick search suggested 
that javascript arrays could hold 4 billion entries. You will be out of 
browser memory long before that happens.

I think it's hard to document the exact range of abilities of TW because 
there are so many platforms, hardware, OS, browser differences.

To me the impressive thing is that we have someone in the forum who 
actually runs a store on TW !

Hardware memory seems to be a major consideration. A file may be only 10 
megs, but the javascript it runs
appears to need to spread out and take several times that amount of space. 
Or at least that's what I've 
observed.

If I was seriously considering creating a mammoth app in TW, I think I 
would start by figuring out the basic
relationships I would want between tiddlers (fields, tags). Create a few 
sets of tiddlers. Then run some process
to clone thousands of test tiddlers. Then you would have a feel for how 
things were going to work. At this
point, avoid using the tag operator in filters were there will be huge 
numbers of tiddlers tagged with that tag.

But 5.1.19 isn't the TW version to be using. Optimizations were made in 
5.1.20 that allow for larger TW files. So 
it's probably worth upgrading, unless there is something specific about 
5.1.19 that you need.

Good luck!


On Monday, November 25, 2019 at 7:43:14 AM UTC-8, Chuck R. wrote:
>
> Thanks TiddlyTweeter, but what issues could I expect from the browser 
> side? On a 16-bit system there is a limit on how high an integer will go, 
> it will count up to a 16-bit value. On a 64-bit system there is a limit on 
> the value of unsigned integers, but it's really high, in the billions at 
> least. 
>
> We've had some questions here that someone gets some type of error and 
> they have 60,000+ tiddlers in a single file. The max value for an unsigned 
> int is 65536. This is only relevant if TW5 uses unsigned integers to give a 
> unique number to each tiddler. What if it uses a base 36 or base 64 
> numbering system? Or something else?
>
> So if I'm using the most recent version of Chrome, and it's a 64-bit 
> browser, what issues could I expect, if any, from the browser or OS end of 
> things?
>
> Does the version of Javascript used by TW5 have any limits? Has it been 
> updated to support 64-bit operating systems and 64-bit data types? 
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Is it possible to create a table of contents based on a specific field rather than tags?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

This tool by PMario might do what you want:

https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/tocP/



On Monday, November 25, 2019 at 11:24:36 AM UTC-8, si wrote:
>
> For example add a "parent" field to a group of tiddlers and generate a toc 
> based on that?
>

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[tw5] Re: Tidgraph - Initial Depth?

[Sean Boyle]

That's lovely!  Thanks Luis

On Monday, November 25, 2019 at 6:03:46 AM UTC-8, Stephen Wilson wrote:
>
> Brilliant!
>
> Thank you!!!
>
> On Monday, 25 November 2019 07:56:49 UTC, Luis Gonzalez wrote:
>>
>> Try an alternative solution.
>>
>>

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[tw5] Is it possible to create a table of contents based on a specific field rather than tags?

[si]

For example add a "parent" field to a tiddler and generate a toc based on 
that?

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Re: [tw5] Re: The penultimate words on saving - multi access and multi user

[Jed Carty]

With Bob you can have one wiki open in multiple tabs with no trouble. And it 
supports multiple editing at the same time, just not the same tiddler.

For security I made a secure server that has logins and fine grained access 
control. 

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[tw5] Re: Limits of Tiddlywiki 5.1.19?

[Qalisto]

Agree that this would be useful information so as to plan multiple TWs 
based on reasonable *data segregation *strategy.  For example, I am 
creating a Contacts TW and a Business DB.

I am particularly keen on keeping as much Data *out of the Cloud* as 
possible unless it is an encrypted TW backup.

As much data as I can isolate locally via TW, is my objective.

=== > Q < ===


On Monday, November 25, 2019 at 3:43:14 PM UTC, Chuck R. wrote:

> Thanks TiddlyTweeter, but what issues could I expect from the browser 
> side? On a 16-bit system there is a limit on how high an integer will go, 
> it will count up to a 16-bit value. On a 64-bit system there is a limit on 
> the value of unsigned integers, but it's really high, in the billions at 
> least. 
>
> We've had some questions here that someone gets some type of error and 
> they have 60,000+ tiddlers in a single file. The max value for an unsigned 
> int is 65536. This is only relevant if TW5 uses unsigned integers to give a 
> unique number to each tiddler. What if it uses a base 36 or base 64 
> numbering system? Or something else?
>
> So if I'm using the most recent version of Chrome, and it's a 64-bit 
> browser, what issues could I expect, if any, from the browser or OS end of 
> things?
>
> Does the version of Javascript used by TW5 have any limits? Has it been 
> updated to support 64-bit operating systems and 64-bit data types? 
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Query: Is showing of a LITERAL "backtick" impossible in a WikiText code block?

[TiddlyTweeter]

Thanks Jeremy

Very clever & very useful ... my understanding now ...

 
``To use single ticks in inline code you can like this... `ticked`.``


Renders as ...

[image: Annotation 2019-11-25 195554.jpg]

 That enables display of single backticks BY wrapping in double backticks.


```
The code for the last example can also be shown by wrapping with triple 
backticks...
``To use single ticks in inline code you can like this... `ticked`.``
```

Renders as ...

[image: Annotation 2019-11-25 195633.jpg]

 

 This enables both single and double backticks BY wrapping in triple 
backticks.


Good stuff!
TT 


On Monday, 25 November 2019 17:38:52 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi TiddlyTweeter
>
> You can use single backticks literally within code blocks:
>
> This is a 
>
> ```
> Code block`with a tick
> ```
>
> If you define a code block run with double backticks then you can use 
> literal single backticks within it:
>
> A ``code run with a tick` like this ``
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>

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[tw5] Re: Here's how to save you Tiddlyspot to a local file on a flash drive

[Ton Gerner]

Hi Chuck,

Hm, I could not find any documentation on how to do this, so I experimented 
> and posted this message. But right click Save As does seem to work when I 
> opened up the TW5 file I saved.
>

We all learn everyday ;-)

Cheers,

Ton

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Re: [tw5] Re: The penultimate words on saving - multi access and multi user

[Arlen Beiler]

> I thought you already had had "*The last word in Saving?*" So I will take
your "*penultimate*" as evidence you have time travel :-)

You have made me seriously question my understanding of EVERY use of this
word I have ever seen!

Google: define penultimate.

last but one in a series of things; second last.

Arlen

On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 12:17 PM ILYA  wrote:

> My two cents,
>
> > I think multiusers with simultaneous access IS interesting.
>
> I think there could be further breakdown of this "requirement". Because
> there will be completly different set of issues in each case:
>
> - one person (user) having the same wiki opened on multiple devices
> (clients). There will be edit conflicts because of distributed nature of
> this system.
> - multiple people (users) updating the same wiki. In addition to conflict
> management, there will be some work to ensure there is no security issues.
>
> Best regards,
> iilyak
>
> On 25 November 2019 09:05:40 GMT-08:00, TiddlyTweeter <
> tiddlytwee...@assays.tv> wrote:
>>
>> Ciao Tony
>>
>> I thought you already had had "*The last word in Saving?*" So I will
>> take your "*penultimate*" as evidence you have time travel :-)
>>
>> I think multiusers with simultaneous access IS interesting.
>>
>> Bob definitely is in the right direction. What I seen looks good.
>>
>> But part of the issue is what is it for?
>>
>> In my own case I like to chat. But I don't see TW anytime soon being able
>> to do more than post to Twitter & Telegram.
>> So the interaction you refer to is within a limited scope. What is it?
>>
>> And that is the point, I think. What are we trying to integrate? For what?
>>
>> What I'm trying to get to is part of the issue is about fundamentals of
>> tech & part (important part too) is why?
>>
>> I think we need to see more (including thought experiments) to understand
>> the issue well?
>>
>> Early thoughts
>> TT
>>
>> On Sunday, 24 November 2019 23:41:02 UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Folks. (edited)
>>>
>>> This thread in an intentional fork of the last word in saving thread. I
>>> am keen to keep the last word in saving focused on single file wikis and a
>>> simple path for even new users to make it their own. Invariably this bleeds
>>> into multi user and multi access implementation so please raise it here
>>> instead.
>>>
>>>
>>>- Multi access - more than one user updating a tiddlywiki at the
>>>same time
>>>- Multi user - more than one user updating a single wiki can be with
>>>serial editing or multi access
>>>
>>> *The only multi access solution I am aware of is Jeds wonderful bob
>>> server which addresses the contention when editing tiddlers. Please advise
>>> if other wise, perhaps noteself can when configured for cloudDB. *
>>>
>>>
>>> Please share your ideas, experience and more on multi access and multi
>>> user tiddlywiki such that we can develop new approaches and documentation
>>> or identify gaps we can address as a community.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>>> Post Script
>>>
>>> Using multi-access and Multi-user implementations of Tiddlywiki can also
>>> be extended to multi-device solutions. Such as you would like a tiddlywiki
>>> on your mobile and access it on your desktop. Such solutions can make use
>>> of a server based solution as needed with multi-access and multi-user (of
>>> the simultaneous type)  or single file based wikis stored on a cloud
>>> service such as Google Drive, Microsoft One Drive, Dropbox and more.
>>> Where possible please keep this thread focused on Node, server or folder
>>> based solutions and see the discussion  *the Last Word in Saving
>>> * for
>>> single file wikis.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: The penultimate words on saving - multi access and multi user

[ILYA]

My two cents,

> I think multiusers with simultaneous access IS interesting.

I think there could be further breakdown of this "requirement". Because there 
will be completly different set of issues in each case:

- one person (user) having the same wiki opened on multiple devices (clients). 
There will be edit conflicts because of distributed nature of this system.
- multiple people (users) updating the same wiki. In addition to conflict 
management, there will be some work to ensure there is no security issues.

Best regards,
iilyak

On 25 November 2019 09:05:40 GMT-08:00, TiddlyTweeter  
wrote:
>Ciao Tony
>
>I thought you already had had "*The last word in Saving?*" So I will
>take 
>your "*penultimate*" as evidence you have time travel :-)
>
>I think multiusers with simultaneous access IS interesting.
>
>Bob definitely is in the right direction. What I seen looks good.
>
>But part of the issue is what is it for?
>
>In my own case I like to chat. But I don't see TW anytime soon being
>able 
>to do more than post to Twitter & Telegram.
>So the interaction you refer to is within a limited scope. What is it?
>
>And that is the point, I think. What are we trying to integrate? For
>what?
>
>What I'm trying to get to is part of the issue is about fundamentals of
>
>tech & part (important part too) is why?
>
>I think we need to see more (including thought experiments) to
>understand 
>the issue well?
>
>Early thoughts
>TT
>
>On Sunday, 24 November 2019 23:41:02 UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Folks. (edited)
>>
>> This thread in an intentional fork of the last word in saving thread.
>I am 
>> keen to keep the last word in saving focused on single file wikis and
>a 
>> simple path for even new users to make it their own. Invariably this
>bleeds 
>> into multi user and multi access implementation so please raise it
>here 
>> instead.
>>
>>
>>- Multi access - more than one user updating a tiddlywiki at the
>same 
>>time 
>>- Multi user - more than one user updating a single wiki can be
>with 
>>serial editing or multi access
>>
>> *The only multi access solution I am aware of is Jeds wonderful bob
>server 
>> which addresses the contention when editing tiddlers. Please advise
>if 
>> other wise, perhaps noteself can when configured for cloudDB. *
>>
>>
>> Please share your ideas, experience and more on multi access and
>multi 
>> user tiddlywiki such that we can develop new approaches and
>documentation 
>> or identify gaps we can address as a community.
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> Post Script
>>
>> Using multi-access and Multi-user implementations of Tiddlywiki can
>also 
>> be extended to multi-device solutions. Such as you would like a
>tiddlywiki 
>> on your mobile and access it on your desktop. Such solutions can make
>use 
>> of a server based solution as needed with multi-access and multi-user
>(of 
>> the simultaneous type)  or single file based wikis stored on a cloud 
>> service such as Google Drive, Microsoft One Drive, Dropbox and more. 
>> Where possible please keep this thread focused on Node, server or
>folder 
>> based solutions and see the discussion  *the Last Word in Saving 
>>
>*
>for 
>> single file wikis.
>>
>>
>
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[tw5] Re: The penultimate words on saving - multi access and multi user

[TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Tony

I thought you already had had "*The last word in Saving?*" So I will take 
your "*penultimate*" as evidence you have time travel :-)

I think multiusers with simultaneous access IS interesting.

Bob definitely is in the right direction. What I seen looks good.

But part of the issue is what is it for?

In my own case I like to chat. But I don't see TW anytime soon being able 
to do more than post to Twitter & Telegram.
So the interaction you refer to is within a limited scope. What is it?

And that is the point, I think. What are we trying to integrate? For what?

What I'm trying to get to is part of the issue is about fundamentals of 
tech & part (important part too) is why?

I think we need to see more (including thought experiments) to understand 
the issue well?

Early thoughts
TT

On Sunday, 24 November 2019 23:41:02 UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks. (edited)
>
> This thread in an intentional fork of the last word in saving thread. I am 
> keen to keep the last word in saving focused on single file wikis and a 
> simple path for even new users to make it their own. Invariably this bleeds 
> into multi user and multi access implementation so please raise it here 
> instead.
>
>
>- Multi access - more than one user updating a tiddlywiki at the same 
>time 
>- Multi user - more than one user updating a single wiki can be with 
>serial editing or multi access
>
> *The only multi access solution I am aware of is Jeds wonderful bob server 
> which addresses the contention when editing tiddlers. Please advise if 
> other wise, perhaps noteself can when configured for cloudDB. *
>
>
> Please share your ideas, experience and more on multi access and multi 
> user tiddlywiki such that we can develop new approaches and documentation 
> or identify gaps we can address as a community.
>
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> Post Script
>
> Using multi-access and Multi-user implementations of Tiddlywiki can also 
> be extended to multi-device solutions. Such as you would like a tiddlywiki 
> on your mobile and access it on your desktop. Such solutions can make use 
> of a server based solution as needed with multi-access and multi-user (of 
> the simultaneous type)  or single file based wikis stored on a cloud 
> service such as Google Drive, Microsoft One Drive, Dropbox and more. 
> Where possible please keep this thread focused on Node, server or folder 
> based solutions and see the discussion  *the Last Word in Saving 
> * for 
> single file wikis.
>
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Re: [tw5] Query: Is showing of a LITERAL "backtick" impossible in a WikiText code block?

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi TiddlyTweeter

You can use single backticks literally within code blocks:

This is a 

```
Code block`with a tick
```

If you define a code block run with double backticks then you can use literal 
single backticks within it:

A ``code run with a tick` like this ``

Best wishes

Jeremy.



> On 25 Nov 2019, at 15:31, TiddlyTweeter  wrote:
> 
> Email repeat ...
> 
> I was wondering: HOW you would show a "backtick" inside a WikiText "code" 
> block. I guess you can't?
> 
> What is the easiest way round the issue?
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Best wishes
> TT
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[tw5] Re: Here's how to save you Tiddlyspot to a local file on a flash drive

[Chuck R.]

Hm, I could not find any documentation on how to do this, so I experimented 
and posted this message. But right click Save As does seem to work when I 
opened up the TW5 file I saved.

> What is wrong with right clicking the save button of your TW5 at 
TiddlySpot and choosing Save as?

>
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[tw5] Re: The last word in Saving?

[TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Chuck

The issue with BB is mostly HOW to get it to publish public IF you need 
that. Otherwise its excellent if you happy just working in the protocol 
with others using it.

BTW, TW can work in it well. Its "BB-ready". Mr Ruston, originator of 
TiddlyWiki, did quite a lot of work to ensure that.

Best wishes
TT 

Chuck R. wrote:
>
> Beaker Browser is a P2P browser where you can edit your own websites using 
> Markdown. It relies on the DAT protocol, but you also have to have your BB 
> (Beaker Browser) running if you want people to see your HTML pages. 
> https://beakerbrowser.com 
>

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[tw5] Re: Main CSS classes

[Chuck R.]

I'll just toss in the styling I use on my TW. Just put it in the stylesheet 
for TW5 and start playing with the colors or other settings to see what 
each element does. 

/* Comment */


img {max-width:100px; }


h1,h2 {top-border:1px solid gray; } /* Put border above H1 and H2 elements 
for better visual separation /*


.tc-titlebar {border-top:2px solid black;}


.tc-tiddler-controls {border-top:2px solid red;}


.tc-titlebar h2 { font-size: 14pt; display: inline; font-weight: bold; }


.tc-tiddler-body h1 {margin-bottom: 3pt; border-top: 1px solid lightgray;} 


.tc-tiddler-body h2 {margin-bottom: 3pt;} 


.tc-tiddler-body ul, ol {margin-top: 3pt;}


.tc-tiddler-frame { padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-right: 
1em padding-left: 3pt; }


.tc-story-river {padding-right: 1pt; padding-left:3pt; }


.tc-sidebar-scrollable {padding-left: 1pt; }


/* Below is for date in "Recent" list on sidebar */ 


.tc-menu-list-item { color: #404040; }


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[tw5] Re: The last word in Saving?

[Chuck R.]

Ok I'll just throw this out. 

Beaker Browser is a P2P browser where you can edit your own websites using 
Markdown. It relies on the DAT protocol, but you also have to have your BB 
(Beaker Browser) running if you want people to see your HTML pages. 
https://beakerbrowser.com 

Pros: 

   1. Markdown is easy to use even for beginners. The learning curve is 
   short. 
   2. Hashbase.io can be used to host sites so you don't have to have BB 
   running all the time. 

Notes: 

   1. Unknown support for multiple users editing documents. I doubt there 
   is support for that at all. It's still in beta. 




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[tw5] Re: Here's how to save you Tiddlyspot to a local file on a flash drive

[Ton Gerner]

Hi Chuck,

What is wrong with right clicking the save button of your TW5 at TiddlySpot 
and choosing Save as?

Cheers,

Ton

On Monday, November 25, 2019 at 4:36:12 PM UTC+1, Chuck R. wrote:
>
>
>1. You will have your TW address, like MYTW.tiddlyspot.com. 
>2. Open a new tab in your browser and put this in as the address: 
>MYTW.tiddlyspot.com/backup/
>3. Hit enter to load the backup page. 
>4. You should see a list of files. 
>5. Find the file at the bottom of the list, it will have the most 
>recent backup date and time. 
>6. Right click the file.
>7. Choose Save As to save it, choose the directory on your flash drive 
>to save it, give it an extension of .html. 
>8. Now open the backup copy on your flash drive. 
>
> That's it!
>
> I don't know how many backups they keep but I just created my TW5 on 
> Tiddlyspot today, and I must have 20 backups or more. 
>
>
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[tw5] Re: Here's how to save you Tiddlyspot to a local file on a flash drive

[Eric Shulman]

You can also get a local copy of the *current* revision of your TiddlySpot 
TW by using MYTW.tiddlyspot.com/download

-e


On Monday, November 25, 2019 at 7:36:12 AM UTC-8, Chuck R. wrote:
>
>
>1. You will have your TW address, like MYTW.tiddlyspot.com. 
>2. Open a new tab in your browser and put this in as the address: 
>MYTW.tiddlyspot.com/backup/
>3. Hit enter to load the backup page. 
>4. You should see a list of files. 
>5. Find the file at the bottom of the list, it will have the most 
>recent backup date and time. 
>6. Right click the file.
>7. Choose Save As to save it, choose the directory on your flash drive 
>to save it, give it an extension of .html. 
>8. Now open the backup copy on your flash drive. 
>
> That's it!
>
> I don't know how many backups they keep but I just created my TW5 on 
> Tiddlyspot today, and I must have 20 backups or more. 
>
>
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[tw5] Re: Limits of Tiddlywiki 5.1.19?

[Chuck R.]

Oops, the NUMBER of values in a 16-bit system is 65536, the largest value, 
starting at 0, would be 65535.


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[tw5] Re: Limits of Tiddlywiki 5.1.19?

[Chuck R.]

Thanks TiddlyTweeter, but what issues could I expect from the browser side? 
On a 16-bit system there is a limit on how high an integer will go, it will 
count up to a 16-bit value. On a 64-bit system there is a limit on the 
value of unsigned integers, but it's really high, in the billions at least. 

We've had some questions here that someone gets some type of error and they 
have 60,000+ tiddlers in a single file. The max value for an unsigned int 
is 65536. This is only relevant if TW5 uses unsigned integers to give a 
unique number to each tiddler. What if it uses a base 36 or base 64 
numbering system? Or something else?

So if I'm using the most recent version of Chrome, and it's a 64-bit 
browser, what issues could I expect, if any, from the browser or OS end of 
things?

Does the version of Javascript used by TW5 have any limits? Has it been 
updated to support 64-bit operating systems and 64-bit data types? 

Thanks.




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[tw5] Here's how to save you Tiddlyspot to a local file on a flash drive

[Chuck R.]

   
   1. You will have your TW address, like MYTW.tiddlyspot.com. 
   2. Open a new tab in your browser and put this in as the address: 
   MYTW.tiddlyspot.com/backup/
   3. Hit enter to load the backup page. 
   4. You should see a list of files. 
   5. Find the file at the bottom of the list, it will have the most recent 
   backup date and time. 
   6. Right click the file.
   7. Choose Save As to save it, choose the directory on your flash drive 
   to save it, give it an extension of .html. 
   8. Now open the backup copy on your flash drive. 

That's it!

I don't know how many backups they keep but I just created my TW5 on 
Tiddlyspot today, and I must have 20 backups or more. 


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[tw5] Re: Query: Is showing of a LITERAL "backtick" impossible in a WikiText code block?

[TiddlyTweeter]

Email repeat ...

I was wondering: HOW you would show a "backtick" inside a WikiText "code" 
> block. I guess you can't?
>
> What is the easiest way round the issue?
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Best wishes
> TT
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[tw5] Re: Query: Is showing of a LITERAL "backtick" impossible in a WikiText code block?

[TiddlyTweeter]

Email repeat ...

I was wondering: HOW you would show a "backtick" inside a WikiText "code" 
> block. I guess you can't?
>
> What is the easiest way round the issue?
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Best wishes
> TT
>

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[tw5] Re: Tidgraph - Initial Depth?

[Stephen Wilson]

Brilliant!

Thank you!!!

On Monday, 25 November 2019 07:56:49 UTC, Luis Gonzalez wrote:
>
> Try an alternative solution.
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Limits of Tiddlywiki 5.1.19?

[TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Chuck

There is a problem with how your question is phrased :-) If you are a 
newbie then I understand it is not so easy to "get it" at first :-)

What is the max number of tiddlers in a file?


There is no limit per se. It depends on what you are trying to do. 
The main thing to understand is TW is dynamically built and the performance 
will depend on how many dynamic scripts you are running. 

Overall: *Size is no more limiting than usual in a web-page.*

What is the max amount of text that can be in a tiddler?


Same point. It depends on how much dynamic you have going on in it. Simple 
text Tiddler size is not usually an issue. Its more of a Browser issue.

Is there a max file size for the html file itself?


No :-) Not much less than a normal web page.

Best wishes
TT

 
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> Does anyone know of the limits of TW 5.x? 
>
>1. What is the max number of tiddlers in a file? 
>2. What is the max amount of text that can be in a tiddler? 
>3. Is there a max file size for the html file itself?
>
>
> Thank you. 
>

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[tw5] Re: Limits of Tiddlywiki 5.1.19?

[Jed Carty]

The limits are not going to come from TiddlyWiki itself, there may be 
limits to the size of a wiki on tiddlyspot.com, and you have limits set by 
your browser and system memory.

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[tw5] Re: Query: Structure (HTML) -- Where is the visual PLAN?

[TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Mario & Ton

Very helpful pointers!

Many thanks
Josiah

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[tw5] Re: Limits of Tiddlywiki 5.1.19?

[Chuck R.]

Sorry, I'm on 64-bit Windows 10 and 32-bit Windows 7. I can use different 
browsers like Firefox and Chrome and I'm currently editing a TW 5.1.19 on 
Tiddlyspot.com. So my question would be in that context.

My intention is to use this TW file for many years. My current note file in 
Keynote is about 3GB but that's because there are a few large images in it. 
I don't know how many images I will have in my current TW 5.x file.


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[tw5] Limits of Tiddlywiki 5.1.19?

[Chuck R.]

Does anyone know of the limits of TW 5.x? 

   1. What is the max number of tiddlers in a file? 
   2. What is the max amount of text that can be in a tiddler? 
   3. Is there a max file size for the html file itself?


Thank you. 

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[tw5] Re: Looking for markdown support for TW5

[Chuck R.]

Thanks all. I was able to get a TW5.1.19 tiddlywiki working on Tiddlyspot, 
and found the markdown plugin. The installer library on this version of TW 
is very helpful, especially the search function to search for plugins.


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[tw5] Re: How to Create a Button to Copy the Text to Clipboard?

[Ton Gerner]

Hi James,

Have a look at https://tiddlywiki.com/#copy-to-clipboard%20Macro

Cheers,

Ton

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[tw5] Re: The penultimate words on saving - multi access and multi user

[Stephen Wilson]

On Sunday, 24 November 2019 22:41:02 UTC, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks. (edited)
>
> This thread in an intentional fork of the last word in saving thread. I am 
> keen to keep the last word in saving focused on single file wikis and a 
> simple path for even new users to make it their own. Invariably this bleeds 
> into multi user and multi access implementation so please raise it here 
> instead.
>
>
>- Multi access - more than one user updating a tiddlywiki at the same 
>time 
>- Multi user - more than one user updating a single wiki can be with 
>serial editing or multi access
>
> *The only multi access solution I am aware of is Jeds wonderful bob server 
> which addresses the contention when editing tiddlers. Please advise if 
> other wise, perhaps noteself can when configured for cloudDB. *
>
>
> Please share your ideas, experience and more on multi access and multi 
> user tiddlywiki such that we can develop new approaches and documentation 
> or identify gaps we can address as a community.
>
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> Post Script
>
> Using multi-access and Multi-user implementations of Tiddlywiki can also 
> be extended to multi-device solutions. Such as you would like a tiddlywiki 
> on your mobile and access it on your desktop. Such solutions can make use 
> of a server based solution as needed with multi-access and multi-user (of 
> the simultaneous type)  or single file based wikis stored on a cloud 
> service such as Google Drive, Microsoft One Drive, Dropbox and more. 
> Where possible please keep this thread focused on Node, server or folder 
> based solutions and see the discussion  *the Last Word in Saving 
> * for 
> single file wikis.
>
>

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[tw5] How to Create a Button to Copy the Text to Clipboard?

[James]

Hi,

I am curios to create something like this 
 in TW5, so 
that I no need to highlight and copy the code from my TW5 every time I need 
to use the code.

Can anyone teach me how to do it?

Is that possible to include Java function in TW5?

Thanks in advance.

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