[tw5] Re: Getting relink to prevent obsolete permalinks

2021-07-25 Thread Charlie Veniot
G'day Tones, Thank you much for taking the time. As a career senior systems analyst and now freelance information systems consultant, I appreciate where you are coming from. It just boils down to different perspectives about wiki. I've never liked applying to wikis the kind of rules,

[tw5] Re: Getting relink to prevent obsolete permalinks

2021-07-24 Thread TW Tones
Charlie, I am all for diversity and different ways about thinking. It keeps the world rich and interesting and a great source of new and innovative ideas. Perhaps you take my use of the work lazy differently or too seriously. As an information and knowledge management professional, I come

[tw5] Re: Getting relink to prevent obsolete permalinks

2021-07-24 Thread Charlie Veniot
Hence my "do what makes sense for you and what you are doing." And me not understanding how relink could make anybody lazy. I can't think of a use case in which relink could make a person lazy. If there is information value in remembering (recording) what was and not just what is, then do

[tw5] Re: Getting relink to prevent obsolete permalinks

2021-07-24 Thread TW Tones
Charlie. Perhaps it does not make you lazy, but if for example you use Bombay, then realise its no longer called that, just renaming to Mumbai, Knowing relink updates it everywhere is lazy. Bombay is lost to your wiki. Renaming it then adding a tiddler for Bombay with a connection to Mumbai

[tw5] Re: Getting relink to prevent obsolete permalinks

2021-07-23 Thread Charlie Veniot
Well, TiddlyTweeter said "SERIOUS IMPLICIT KNOWLEDGE," so I can't take the kudos for that. I can't imagine how relink could make anybody lazy. I want relink to handle it because I prefer focus on churning the intertwingled thoughts as tiddlers without the sticks-in-the-wheels,

[tw5] Re: Getting relink to prevent obsolete permalinks

2021-07-23 Thread TW Tones
This is where I think relink can make people lazy. The unique key to a tiddler is the title, but it is so easy to change the key, which is a powerful benefit but there are a subset of situations where changing the key needs further thought. If relink just "handles it", we may just forget the

[tw5] Re: Getting relink to prevent obsolete permalinks

2021-07-23 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Right! But there is SERIOUS IMPLICIT KNOWLEDGE at work knowing that Mumbai IS Bombay Do these transforms inform the user of what is going on an why? Just asking for a friend, TT On Friday, 23 July 2021 at 15:03:34 UTC+2 PMario wrote: > On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 5:14:00 PM UTC+2 springer

[tw5] Re: Getting relink to prevent obsolete permalinks

2021-07-23 Thread PMario
On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 5:14:00 PM UTC+2 springer wrote: And as much as you may "choose my tiddler names well enough when needed so > they need not change in future", renaming a tiddler is not always a matter > of realizing that you failed to have foresight the first time around. (My >

[tw5] Re: Getting relink to prevent obsolete permalinks

2021-07-22 Thread Charlie Veniot
Just a reminder that, although maybe a little odd-looking, all kinds of neat filtering can be setup in a tiddler link (i.e. for tiddler lookup from outside a TiddlyWiki) to help prevent link rot. For example: https://tiddlywiki-programming.neocities.org/CJ_TiddlyWikiProgramming.html#:

[tw5] Re: Getting relink to prevent obsolete permalinks

2021-07-22 Thread springer
Tones, This again is a place where different users may have different needs. I love the fact that if I share a permalink, the #TiddlerTitle at the end is not an indecipherable UID, but something recognizable and meaningful to the recipient (and even to myself, going back into my emails and

[tw5] Re: Getting relink to prevent obsolete permalinks

2021-07-21 Thread TW Tones
Charlie, Yes that is a very good idea if we build a search based permalink button, if could even be called a 404 tiddler with search or "did you mean" list (to match the missing page in html error code). But when I think about it if one uses the share button will there ever be a not found

[tw5] Re: Getting relink to prevent obsolete permalinks

2021-07-21 Thread Charlie Veniot
Yeah, I only meant the building of that part you mentioned in the early part of your post, i.e.: *a tiddler with the "permalink" field=1* *the url wiki-url.html#:[permalink[1]] * That was the only thing I had previously played with, and I thought you meant to only build that, not all of the

[tw5] Re: Getting relink to prevent obsolete permalinks

2021-07-21 Thread TW Tones
Charlie, Yes, very similar, It is less about that working example which illustrates why we need not put much effort to obtain what is being discussed, but I do go on to discuss related issues and opportunities, such as creating bookmarks, did your reference solution include a share button for

[tw5] Re: Getting relink to prevent obsolete permalinks

2021-07-21 Thread Charlie Veniot
I've never used that link (to a specific post) feature. That's a new trick for me. Thanks! https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/nEDB3zRBALY/m/z0BXBncwBAAJ Well, I didn't' spend any time making it pretty ... On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 12:29:08 AM UTC-3 TW Tones wrote: > Charlie, > > I

[tw5] Re: Getting relink to prevent obsolete permalinks

2021-07-21 Thread TW Tones
Charlie, I am not sure. I can't find that specific reply in this thread. Can you give me a link from the actual reply please? I expect its something similar but with a different scope. Thanks Tones On Thursday, 22 July 2021 at 13:12:58 UTC+10 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote: > Silly question: are

[tw5] Re: Getting relink to prevent obsolete permalinks

2021-07-21 Thread Charlie Veniot
Silly question: are you suggesting you are going to build what I already built and mentioned a little earlier in this thread (Jul 20, 2021, 10:09:07 AM) ? On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 10:17:10 PM UTC-3 TW Tones wrote: > Springer et al, > > Forgive me for repeating myself, although a lot of

[tw5] Re: Getting relink to prevent obsolete permalinks

2021-07-21 Thread TW Tones
Springer et al, Forgive me for repeating myself, although a lot of interesting ideas, I believe these to be *non-problems.* A simple solution is available here. an Example would be an alternate button to simple permalinks, I think someone else used a share icon. When clicking this on a given