Re: tmux versioning and development

2016-10-14 Thread Nicholas Marriott
I think you have some strange idea of what the release process involves. The release is easy. A small project like tmux does not need more people with some sort of special release engineer hat. What we could use is a more testing, formal or informal, in the time between releases. If we come up to

Re: tmux versioning and development

2016-10-14 Thread Nicholas Marriott
That is not how it works and you must be aware of that. You don't just walk into an open source project knowing nobody and offering nothing, you need to get involved and do some work, then you get the responsibility. The next release won't be for six months, you have ample time to get going. On

Re: tmux versioning and development

2016-10-14 Thread Ethan Raynor
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Nicholas Marriott wrote: > Ethan - > > You have made no code contributions to tmux and made no bug > reports. Until that changes - even if there was a release engineering > position going, you wouldn't be a candidate. I don't have to make contributions to see wher

Re: tmux versioning and development

2016-10-13 Thread Nicholas Marriott
Ethan - You have made no code contributions to tmux and made no bug reports. Until that changes - even if there was a release engineering position going, you wouldn't be a candidate. In 10 years, nobody who has sent patches has complained about how they are credited. If someone sends code and doe

Re: tmux versioning and development

2016-10-13 Thread Ethan Raynor
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Helmut K. C. Tessarek wrote: > One of the reasons why I haven't sent any patches is, because I don't > want to write code, test it, send a patch file via git to a mailing list > (which is another annyoance) and then my name does not even show up as > the author. I

Re: tmux versioning and development

2016-10-12 Thread Helmut K. C. Tessarek
On 2016-10-12 15:35, Helmut K. C. Tessarek wrote: > In any case, the way development is handled is very untypical to any > project I've ever seen. That's why I'm so puzzled by it. Never mind. Thomas explained the OpenBSD dev process. It makes sense now. Cheers, K. C. -- regards Helmut K. C. Te

Re: tmux versioning and development

2016-10-12 Thread Helmut K. C. Tessarek
Hello Thomas, On 2016-10-12 14:46, Thomas Adam wrote: > This can't happen, and you're misunderstanding how the workflow happens. Yes, this is certainly true. That's why I asked. :-) > You're not the first one to either. Tmux is developed as part of OpenBSD. > It's in the base system. OpenBSD u

Re: tmux versioning and development

2016-10-12 Thread Helmut K. C. Tessarek
On 2016-10-12 12:40, Nicholas Marriott wrote: > I think you made a mistake here: --disable-debug works fine in Git, we > only change the default. I'll try again, but it did not work when I used it yesterday. Maybe I have to delete the .cache dirs or start completely from scratch. I'll check it ou

Re: tmux versioning and development

2016-10-12 Thread Helmut K. C. Tessarek
Hello, Thank you for the reply. On 2016-10-12 12:34, Nicholas Marriott wrote: > People don't know when they've built from Git and when they haven't? > I don't think this is a real problem. It only works for people who build it themselves. But since there is only 1 realease every year, a lot of p

Re: tmux versioning and development

2016-10-12 Thread Thomas Adam
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 12:27:01PM -0400, Helmut K. C. Tessarek wrote: > Other projects use versioning like: > > 2.4-dev > 2.3--<7 character long git hash> > (e.g.: 2.3-17-76a9e6f) Whilst it's possible to easily include the output of git-describe into the version string at build time (I do this w

Re: tmux versioning and development

2016-10-12 Thread Nicholas Marriott
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 05:34:06PM +0100, Nicholas Marriott wrote: > Hi > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 12:27:01PM -0400, Helmut K. C. Tessarek wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have a few questions/comments and I hope that Thomas or Nicholas find > > the time to reply. > > > > I've noticed that as soon a

Re: tmux versioning and development

2016-10-12 Thread Nicholas Marriott
Hi On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 12:27:01PM -0400, Helmut K. C. Tessarek wrote: > Hello, > > I have a few questions/comments and I hope that Thomas or Nicholas find > the time to reply. > > I've noticed that as soon as a release is made the version is bumped and > debug is turned on. I was not even ab

tmux versioning and development

2016-10-12 Thread Helmut K. C. Tessarek
Hello, I have a few questions/comments and I hope that Thomas or Nicholas find the time to reply. I've noticed that as soon as a release is made the version is bumped and debug is turned on. I was not even able to turn this off with the configure option --disable-debug. So a static binary compile