I'd say it's probably a bug. GNOME Fallback isn't designed to be used as a
main DE, so I'm sure it doesn't get as much attention by the GNOME developers
as GNOME Shell, and that would be why.
If it bothers you, you might want to try another DE, like Xfce (type sudo
apt-get install xfce4 in
Well, it can usually remove packages just fine, but it can't do it if another
package is dependent on it, while Synaptic can.
It's a problem, but I still like gnome-app-install better than Synaptic,
personally. Of course, if you prefer to use Synaptic, you can of course
change the menu to
OK, UnPlug is working... sort of (the Downloads window doesn't show up even
though the video is downloading, which is weird, but it works), but I've
noticed another problem since the upgrade to Abrowser 18. Whenever it's
prompted to play a video by opening a supported video type such as OGG
gnome-app-install /is/ a package manager, just not as powerful as Synaptic,
and Synaptic isn't command-line. Reading this post makes me think you don't
know this.
I don't know if Synaptic is shown in the menus by default, but if it isn't,
it's in Settings.
Oh, that one... I'm very familiar with that, because that's what Fedora uses
(or at least used to use) by default.
gnome-packagekit is actually the package you want to install to use it (and
it's called Add/Remove Software in the menus; you need to unhide it), and
to be brutally honest, I
That already exists: it's called Javascript. With the HTML 5 specification,
most important things Flash was historically used for can be done in
Javascript. The problem is Flash's long historical use means it will probably
still be common for a while, and if a website depends on Flash, you
I really don't think permissive has either a positive or a negative
connotation. It's a relinquishment of control, and that can be a good or bad
thing depending on the circumstances. Regardless of copyleft licenses such as
the GPL being a good thing, they don't relinquish control and are
If XFS continues to be used, I would argue to, if the space is available, put
in a huge excess of space for /, like 32 GB. Though I tend to agree that ext4
would be a better choice despite performance benefits of XFS.
You don't need to resize your partitions often for this to become a problem.
If you /ever/ have to resize your partitions down the road, not being able to
do it is a hassle. Say, for example, you want to install another GNU/Linux
distro, like Parabola, alongside Trisquel. If all remaining
The copyright holder doesn't have to distribute the work under the terms of
the license because he/she/it already has complete permission to distribute
it in any way he/she/it wants under copyright.
Actually, I'm not entirely sure, but I think that if software is distributed
under the GPL
I'm not so sure about the brain cancer thing. I haven't done any research,
but I think I read somewhere that that's just overhyped preliminary studies.
Mainstream media often does this; it makes things sound more exciting than
they really are.
One huge example of this is the mainstream
I like GNOME Shell, personally. Xfce if 3D isn't available. Maybe that fork
of GNOME Fallback mentioned a while back (Consort) will turn into my 2D
choice when it's available.
Remember, Chris, that YouTube always requires nonfree software, namely the
nonfree Javascript. To really watch without nonfree software, you need to
download the video with something like UnPlug (a Firefox extension which I
really recommend for this; it's really easy, and you can also stream
Just something I've been curious about. Why in particular does Trisquel have
its own Firefox fork, rather than just using IceCat (with certain
modifications for Trisquel)? It seems that would ease some of the work it
takes to maintain it.
The problem with Firefox is it recommends nonfree software. The trademark
issue is the Firefox trademark is only allowed to be used on copies of
Firefox that are unmodified. This is an appropriate use of the trademark; the
whole point of trademarks is so that people can differentiate
I’m asking the community, in case the Wi-Fi does not work;
what should I do?, What would you recommend?
Well, the optimal solution would be to get a USB WiFi adapter, such as the
one sold at http://libre.thinkpenguin.com. Just be straight with your friend:
tell him that the manufacturer
I second this.
Including nonfree drivers and firmware does not result in the least amount of
problems; it results in the most amount of problems being hidden. Eventually
the nonfree software will fail, and when it does, the person you introduced
GNU/Linux to will be frustrated and assume
Not wanting to spend money because the computer is old. Sounds like my mom.
If you're feeling charitable, you could offer to buy something for him, but
that might not be something you can do.
Try mentioning this: if a new component is bought, it can be used on future
laptops and other
Hm... I'm not sure. All I can find on Yahoo's website is about mobile access.
You're supposed to need one of their paid accounts to use an E-mail client
(on a desktop computer anyway), so maybe you need to be logged into one to
access the information? I don't know where it would be, but I
Yeah, Thunderbird is pretty awesome. Evolution's setup is actually more
normal for E-mail clients, but Thunderbird does just about everything
automatically.
You do have to pay to use E-mail clients with Yahoo, at least officially.
You're not supposed to be able to do it with gratis
It's probably using the settings mobile clients would use, or something.
Whatever it's doing, just hope Yahoo doesn't ban you for it. :)
Even
if there was no profit to be made from software development, it would
still be done. People develop software because it's fun, because the
software would be useful, etc.
But that isn't likely. There will always be people who need new software
on demand (i.e. custom software), and they
Hm... here's a thought, if you decide you want to try using another E-mail
client: see what settings Thunderbird is using and use those settings on the
other E-mail client. I had a problem with all E-mail clients sending E-mails
from my Gmail account, but Thunderbird is able to do it without
Looks like it to me.
I took a look at this. Thing is, it's just got the most popular distros on
it, and I found that two different test results gave multiple 100%
recommendations, so it's pretty useless. But since it suggests distros that
are unethical, I wouldn't refer anyone to it even if it worked well.
I'd
Hm... now I need to re-evaluate, because I didn't think about that much when
I read the license. Well, it doesn't harm your freedoms necessarily. It can,
however, if the name is a trademark.
For example, if Firefox was under this license, this would be a problem,
because Abrowser would
why should it make a license non-free that it only allows use of the
trademarks non-commercially?
Normally it wouldn't. But if the software license requires use of the same
name for unmodified versions, that combination results in freedom 2
effectively being restricted.
Does it only
Yes, Conanical's policy might be fine. I was talking about theoretical other
policies, like Mozilla's. Also, Conanical's policy could be changed, and then
the license could be rendered effectively nonfree by that.
don't want to release their custom changes to the public (which the GPL
will
force them to do)
Erm, no, it doesn't. The GPL requires you to distribute the program under the
GPL with the source code (or an offer to provide the source code) if you
distribute it at all, but there is no
One of your important freedoms can be taken away at will via trademark law
with this license. Therefore, I would say that the license is nonfree. I
don't know what the FSF's opinion would be.
I think anything using this license is nonfree, name currently trademarked or
not, because it could become a trademark at a later date.
What's getting MagicBanana is you're talking about dual-licensing, which
isn't necessary, and it unnecessarily restricts users. All you need to do is
sell support. A company needs new functionality; they figure the original
author knows the program best, so they pay the original author
486 kilobytes of RAM? That was extremely small years ago. Surely you must
mean 486 megabytes of RAM?
Assuming you actually meant MB and not KB, all you need to do to fix the
problem is install a lightweight DE, like LXDE or Xfce. Xfce is what the
OpenPandora uses, with only 256 MB of RAM.
My brother quit Linux Mint despite having huge slowdown problems with Windows
probably because of a combination of a few small issues (some driver issue
with the video that caused bad 3D graphics, trouble with his wireless, and
lack of nonfree game support). His conclusion in the end was
The difference I see is that there's nothing a software license can do about
that, and the software license doesn't in any way contribute to the threat.
Any software patent is bad and restricts your freedom, and that's why
software patents should be fought against.
Trademarks, though,
I've experienced this myself with an Nvidia card and an ATI card; I guess
some of them just suck, not surprising since AMD doesn't fully cooperate and
Nvidia doesn't cooperate at all with free software.
The obvious thing to try is a kernel update to the latest version of
Linux-libre. If
I don't know if you tried Dragora, but that should work on such a system the
next time you come across one. It's supposed to be lightweight and simple,
and it lists 64 MB as its minimum RAM requirement.
I didn't have problems with Lavabit myself. I do use Thunderbird now, though,
because it's a lot easier to set up. I hope the trademark problem can be
resolved sometime in the future.
What Magic Banana said. But to clarify, the trademark problem I mentioned
is that you can't use Mozilla trademarks in commercial distributions of the
software, and you also can't use the trademarks in modified versions, which
means Firefox or Thunderbird cleaned of the nonfree plugins needs
I would hardly call a single bad design decision the death of Trisquel.
t3g, please read this very carefully:
If you want to add something to your copy of a program licensed under the GNU
GPL, you are *not* required to redistribute it. *If* you distribute this
modified version, *then* it must be covered entirely under the GNU GPL. If
you want to keep it to
That's completely missing the point, t3g. Proprietary plugins are
proprietary, period, and if they are willing to give you money for these
proprietary plugins, they must be extremely important. In other words, that
practice is unethical; you are then using free software to trick users into
Public domain is fine, but you really use CC0 for that. It means if you are
unable to put it into the public domain in some country, you have a
permissive license as a backup plan.
Still, I think copyleft is a very useful tool; it can give free software a
great advantage. Abandoning it
And it's been repeatedly said that this method of business is unethical.
The ethical business is to release a program and charge for development of
new features, which will then be made free, not to have a weak free version
and then sell a nonfree enterprise version. That is using free
(if you included code snippets of a GPL-covered program in a book you would
have to license that book under the GPL)
That's wrong for two main reasons:
1. A couple small snippets being used for demonstration would be something
you can use the fair use defense for, and have a really good
The Apache 2 license is incompatible with the GPLv2 because it protects
against patents, while the GPLv2 doesn't (but the GPLv3 does, so the Apache 2
license is compatible with version 3 of the GPL). This is a *good* thing
about the Apache 2 license, not a bad thing, and unless you're a Git
Complaining about ScummVM only being useful for nonfree games (though
Flight of the Amazon Queen and Beneath a Steel Sky are not nonfree, from my
understanding, I'll ignore this for now) is a bit absurd. ScummVM's code
(i.e. the game engine) is all free; the only parts that are ever nonfree
You can only sell this game independently of its value, as a basic copying
service you provide, so a reasonable copying fee is what is expected.
In other words, you can't sell these two games for whatever price you feel
like. The reasonable makes these two games
nonfree.
What you missed
Well, GNOME Fallback uses Compiz by default in Trisquel 6, right? I don't
know if KDE uses that or KWin when you install it on Trisquel 6.
One modern desktop environment that doesn't use Compiz is GNOME Shell, so you
could try that. I don't know exactly how well it goes on Trisquel 6, but on
If you're under an oppressive regime, it's not always possible to fight. As
an example, in North Korea, just farting the wrong way or failing to
recognize the country as a democratic people's republic will get you
killed. Hell, a guy caught celebrating Kim Jong-Il's death was executed with
I also suggest getting something from http://libre.thinkpenguin.com (side
note: there's no point in pasting the click counter from the Trisquel
website's link; just pointing to libre.thinkpenguin.com means part of the
profits will be donated to Trisquel). They have 3 laptop choices: the
I think the color thing is why it just uses the system default now, which
looks fine.
GNOME Shell is apparently really difficult to install (I wasn't able to get
it working) and not working properly (someone on IRC who got it to work said
the logout and shutdown button didn't work). This really sucks for me; it's
not a deal-breaker (shouldn't slow down the release), but I
That works! After installing that PPA, I was able to install both
gnome-session and gnome-shell at the same time, which was what was needed. I
also manually installed mutter, but I don't know if I needed to do that.
What binaries?
https://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-19.0os=linuxlang=en-US
It's a tar file with the binary in it. This is something I have used, back
when Firefox 4 was new and it wasn't available in the repos yet. You're
supposed to copy it somewhere, like /opt, and run it.
I
Well, I don't know about forcing, but I got it to work by installing this
PPA:
https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3
Then you can install both gnome-session and gnome-shell.
I just mentioned it on #trisquel-dev so they can see.
You probably want to run run-mozilla.sh. Try running it in the terminal and
note any error output; I'd bet you just have missing dependencies.
Installation is just copying it to a place you like, either your home folder
if only you are using it or perhaps /opt if others will be using it.
Alright, it looks like the final CD images are out! It just made it, I'll be
able to install Trisquel 6 on my mom's computer before I leave today! :D
Sounds like it's not a period, but the path you tried to execute. .
indicates the current directory.
It sounds like you're trying to execute a directory. What command did you
use, exactly? It should have been, from the Firefox directory,
./run-mozilla.sh.
I've never had any problem with using 32-bit programs on 64-bit GNU/Linux.
Honestly, I think 32-bit versions of operating systems are becoming
irrelevant. Still, my mom has a really old custom computer with a Pentium 4
(and a garbage ATI integrated graphics controller, and a CD-only optical
I don't know what kind of processor you have, but my laptop (also from 2007)
came with Windows Vista 32-bit pre-installed even though it has a 64-bit
processor (Intel Celeron). I never knew I had a 64-bit processor until
something, I want to say a Linux Mint CD, told me that my system was
That could happen with any free software license that doesn't grant
trademark
rights.
That's not true. If it were, Firefox would be nonfree; the Mozilla trademark
conditions do not allow use of the trademark in commercial distributions of
the software. With a normal software license
I assume you're talking about the menus, in which case the font size is too
small. Maybe the text scaling factor?
If you're actually talking about the body, it looks to me like the difference
in that is a (cyan-colored) shadow effect of some sort that is toward the top
in the one on the
I had to do that to get it on my laptop since the optical drive on it is
broken, though it was from the image put up a couple days before the final
one.
Maybe you just need to go to your BIOS's boot menu?
How well Nouveau works depends on the actual video card. Some work perfectly,
others have problems. My understanding is that upgrading the kernel can be
necessary for some of them to work properly.
Gnash only works properly for streaming YouTube videos, where it works just
fine. The
I don't know about that card and it's not listed on h-node. Maybe someone
else can jump in.
With regards to games, have you tried similar free games? I don't know what
kinds of games you play. If you play FPSes, some gems are Xonotic, OpenArena,
AssaultCube, and Tremulous. If you play
Yep, Ryzom is really good, and yes, it is completely free; the art assets are
under CC BY-SA, I think.
After some talking on IRC about not being able to hibernate, we found out
that hibernate was disabled by default on my machine running Trisquel 6. I
changed this in
/var/lib/polkit-1/localauthority/10-vendor.d/com.ubuntu.desktop.pkla and that
fixed the problem.
Does anyone else running
You probably want Intel graphics; Nvidia cards usually work, but it's the
product of a reverse-engineering effort, while Intel actually cooperates
(very well) with its graphics controllers, so the quality is more assured and
there's no worry that you might have to wait for it to be
The thing about Nvidia cards is since Nvidia does not cooperate with us, the
only support available for them is from reverse-engineering. It has produced
good results, but that means newer cards might not work so well yet.
Like I said, you really should get Intel graphics if you can. Intel
I would forgo the Nvidia card and just use the Intel graphics you say you're
getting, but that's fine. You can always take it back out, after all.
Monitors are (supposed to be) plug-and-play. If the Intel HD 4000 supports
1080p, it supports that monitor. I assume it must (1080p is not exactly new),
and if for some strange reason it doesn't, you can always buy the video card
later. ;)
I'm having a similar problem Armworm was having with Thunderbird with Ryzom
and Cube. This doesn't make any sense at all:
http://pastebin.com/mbCZYWnj
And for Cube:
http://pastebin.com/31p5ENHv
What you can't see from those is the terminal's color-coding, so I've also
attached screenshots
Well, I don't see why. I clearly see the files that bash says are missing.
What am I looking for?
Screenshots attached.
Try politely asking for the source code. If they give it to you under the
same permissive license, the program is free software to you, and you can
give the code to others to make it free software to them.
linux_client is a binary, not a text file.
julian@julian-Satellite-L305:~/cube/bin_unix$ ls -lha
total 616K
drwxr-xr-x 2 julian 1001 4.0K Aug 29 2005 .
drwxr-xr-x 9 julian 1001 4.0K Feb 15 19:16 ..
-rwxr-xr-x 1 julian 1001 297K Aug 29 2005 freebsd_client
-rwxr-xr-x 1 julian 1001 44K Aug 29
That's probably because you're not the owner, which means you need to do it
as root. You can do this by running gksudo nautilus (assuming you're using
GNOME) and browsing over to the folder, then change the owner in the
permissions tab to you. Or you could use chown.
That reminds me of how much of a pain in the ass it is to remove software in
Windows. Windows has no automated removal facility and can only remove one
program at a time, and each program takes something like 10-20 seconds. You
absolutely can not have a cup of coffee while you wait; you need
My point about removing stuff on Windows is you can't queue anything, so you
need to keep choosing the next thing to remove. You can't spend your time
playing Solitaire in only 10-20 seconds, and if you're removing more than a
couple things, it's an incredible hassle.
With regards to the
Mint is spyware free... as long as you don't use Google Chrome, or Adobe
Flash, or Skype, or possibly other nonfree programs.
Of course, note that Mint is not an Ubuntu clone, either. Actually, if it's
just the look of Ubuntu you really want (and not also the package manager),
you might
That's because the Python 3 binary is called python3, not python
(technically, it's called python3.2 and python3 is a symbolic link to it,
but that's just details).
The problem is not very many people are stuck without an Internet connection
at all, so most GNU/Linux systems don't worry about accommodating them (to be
clear, Windows doesn't either; that it does is an accident resulting from its
core design). There's still a hassle with Windows: you need
Yeah, but it would be nice if they would lift the noncommercial
restriction.
GNOME Fallback isn't causing any delays. The only change to the theme I've
noticed is changing from the Trisquel 5.5 background to the Trisquel 6
background.
Well, one thing you could do is split it into a several-parts compressed file
so you can upload it to a file host that has individual file size limits. The
.7z format supports this.
I want to point out that the libre. isn't what causes all hardware to be
freedom-friendly; the site never shows you hardware that is not
freedom-friendly. What the libre. does is cause some of the profits to be
donated to Trisquel and only shows information that doesn't lead you to
nonfree
Well, dependencies aren't nonexistent, it's just that they're included with
the download. This isn't a feature or design choice, but rather a
compensation for a limitation in Windows: there is no way to automatically
find out what dependencies need to be installed. So except for a few
Regarding wireless: don't forget that there's also
http://libre.thinkpenguin.com.
Regarding YouTube: Gnash works perfectly for that on Abrowser, though I would
personally recommend UnPlug (Firefox plugin). Remember that you can use
Abrowser on Trisquel-mini; you just need to install it
Running a nonfree program personally isn't unethical because it is you who is
being victimized, but steering someone towards nonfree software is.
I'm no web developer, but I'm a software developer. Unfortunately, Wine is
too limited for cx_Freeze (a free program which freezes Python programs
Running Internet Explorer (a proprietary application) on Wine does not turn
it
free.
Who said it does? I said *Wine* Internet Explorer:
http://wiki.winehq.org/iexplore
Technically, I suppose they just call it iexplore, after the name of the
executable.
I found this video accidentally:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re1EatGRV0w
I suggest watching it, and other YouTube videos, with the UnPlug extension
instead of the embedded player. At any rate, what's hilarious, if you didn't
see it, is that the games shown are Red Eclipse (for most of
It's still backslashes, but it usually accepts forward slashes too now
(though sometimes it decides to interpret it as an argument instead of a path
separater).
I don't know if they changed this, but the last time I used Python on
Windows, the Python installation folder wasn't added to PATH by default, so
you needed to explicitly give the full path name Python is installed in (e.g.
C:\Python27\python.exe for Python 2.7 by default, though the
OK, I'd really like to jump in here: you're saying something about an
investigation and verification or something like that because someone a few
posts ago mentioned a few programs that seem to be free. Are you actually
aware of any of them being nonfree? If you are, please say so, but
Um, no. You jumped on someone accusing them of linking to nonfree software
when, as far as we all know, that's not the case. That is just unfair and
hostile.
Hey, thanks for the pointer to ViewTube. It seems that also currently works
with Blip.tv, so that's another plus (though it doesn't work with embedded
videos, it seems).
Possibly, possibly not. One problem I can see is its interface is a bit more
complicated than YouTube's, and using the wrong settings can make a video not
work (I watched a video with it that didn't work in the HTML5 player, though
it did work when I chose MP4). It could frustrate new users.
I don't know if you've tried Gnash recently, but it does work flawlessly with
YouTube now, including for most videos embedded in others' webpages (though
interestingly, it's not perfect if you have the HTML5 player enabled; when
that player would normally work, but fails, it should fall back
If you use Fedora, you should take a look at Freed-ora:
http://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/selibre/linux-libre/freed-ora.en.html
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