I have definitely seen the number of websites Firefox can't load correctly
increase as all other web browsers shift to Webkit or similar rendering
engines. I think a lot of sites are just not bothering to test for Firefox
anymore or something.
I use Lynx as a secondary browser and
Endless has a nugget of a good idea at its core: Offline computing for those
with no or irregular access to the internet using lower power devices.
I personally would start with Trisquel Mini as its comes pre-packaged with a
suite of software for music, media, and office applications. Of
That is changing:
https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/new_womens_prison_to_let_inmates_cook_use_internet/10954869
Even prisoners have limited internet access and many systems have prisoner
industries that require internet access.
Another recommendation for DWM, been using it for many years, just be sure to
also use dmenu with it. Sometimes they are packaged together, other times
not.
It boggles the mind that so many "light" or in Trisquel's case "mini" distros
can't fit on a cd anymore. All I want is a base system, reasonable window
manager, and the ability to install what I want via wifi out of the box. I've
taken to mini-ISO's and net-install so I can opt into the
What you could do is use an apk downloader to remove the file from Google
Play and then side load it on the Replicant device. Now, depending on the
phone the app might not work due to the many limitations of Replicant, but
you won't know until you try it.
An example:
Agreed Onpon,
The advantages pushed don't balance out with the work needed. This is
especially true because I would put money down that at least 50% of people
who interact with this system don't even use the mailing list directly, they
just use the forum interface. In fact its probably
I'm not for this at all.
Our forum and mailing list is already a hot mess, totally unhelpful for users
seeking supports, and has become a sudo-advocates clap trap. The few
reasonable threads on the mailing list quickly become multi-page debates that
have nothing to do with the original
Trisquel is Ruben's project, connected to a for profit venture related to
free software consulting. That has led to his employment at the FSF. The FSF
provides logistical support through all the packages it maintains and
services it provides, without that Trisquel would not be possible at
Hi talbers,
Congratulations on getting to a place where you want to drop Google. There
are lots of ways to look at services when wanting one "respects your
freedom". Most of the respondents focused on absolutism, this option is
simply not free (as in cost), which was indicated in your
Firstly, you are correct, and this is a point I have made too. At minimum
Blag and Musix should be removed from the list, but to insure the list
remains up to date distros should have to re-certify every few years. This
way the FSF will know if this project is active. They could even have
It is a top level category called "specialty services"
here is the link:
https://www.ebay.com/b/Specialty-Services/316/bn_1865524?rmvSB=true
The article you link is to the Debian wiki, which as I suspected suggests the
BBB/Debian combo is as free as Debian. Debian falls just short of FSF because
of the availability of non-free repos and documentation that suggests
non-free software. Provided you do not use these Debian + BBB is
Your listing will get taken down because it breaks eBay listing rules. You
have a service listed as a physical product. You need to move the listing to
the services area of the site.
Thanks SuperTramp, this led me down the right path. After fiddling for awhile
I figured out my install of Trisquel Mini did not have Seahorse, the GUI tool
to change keyrings/passwords. Once installed I was able to delete the
troublesome keyring and replace it with a new one that uses the
I believe Libreboot has a sub-Reddit as well you might want to try.
You can just go to the FSF’s ftp server to get all past versions:
http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/icecat/
Probably not, you would have to do a lot of manual checking. This is why the
RFY program exists.
It would seem that Freedombox would at minimum have the same issues Debian
has since it is based on Debian. Moreover, because this supports several
SoC's I don't see how that can work with a
It is available for other distros, I know people with Mint who have it.
Further other unbranded Firefox browsers accomplish the same thing with no
difference in software, such as Parabola's Ice Weasel. That said you might be
able to compile uses a package from
Yes, but you can do that with any Firefox based browser
Palemoon is not a lightweight browser, it's a fork of Firefox using an
outdated fork of gecko. Abrowser, which comes with Trisquel is as "light" as
Palemoon, while also not being out of date in an attempt to preserve features
no one cares about from very early versions of Firefox.
Just use
Update: I was able to connect by going into "network connections" and
entering the password for the network I previously used there, this did
require ignoring the same "keyring" prompt twice. Luckily, all the wifi
networks are normally use are already in there...not really sure what I am
For some reason every time I attempt to connect to a new network I get this
"enter password for default keyring to unlock" prompt. This would be fine,
but it does not accept my system password, and I wouldn't have used two
different passwords on the same system. I used to just simply reboot
If family black sheep had grades, mine would be obsidian.
Firstly, you can't convince your family what they do with their time online;
just like they can't control yours. Also, sometimes when you decide to stand
up for your ethics you have to endure some negative outcomes. I am often the
Chromium is not supported because it is a complex collection of different
pieces, some of which are not free, and cannot be easily parced out because
each version is different. There are other Webkit browsers though: Flakon
(Qupzilla), Surf, Web, Midori, and Konqueror.
What would be more useful is if the various free software projects provided
their own forums that they maintained within the value set of their project.
Right now there are many projects that don't do a very good job supporting
their users or products and they end up here where less help is
Whether you use a viewer on just download the video you are still supporting
the platform, there is no function difference between the two approaches.
Youtube is part of the one ring of Google, which is why it is bad. There is
also javascript issues with it and they sell your information
On the rare occasion I need to view a video on Youtube I simply fire up
IceCat, use DownThemAll to download the video, and then play it in VLC.
There really shouldn't be a difference between Mini and LXDE since they are
the same thing...but for whatever reason Mini uses more ram and take longer
to come up after login. I have no idea why. Its probably not a lot more ram,
but on an old system it is very noticeable since you don't have
I have all the same issues with Purisms branding and outreach others have
posted, and I have had posted before. I'm not going to dive down that rabbit
hole again here.
That said, Librem crushes crowd funding based on their questionable
branding/outreach. A few promising RISC V projects
I use Mini on an X20, which is from the same era. The big thing to make sure
you do is not use the Mini session, use either LXDE proper or Openbox. Both
are already installed on Mini so it is just a matter of switching sessions at
log-in. For web browsing I use Surf and Abiword for spell
I have only ever used Mini. It really just boils down to preference, but I
spend most of my time in command-line, so I don't have much need for GUI.
Back before Trisquel I would just do a net install with X and used TWM when I
wanted a GUI. I've grown a bit more attached to X since Mini came
Thanks for the clarification. The way I read your original post was that you
had some piece of proprietary software you wanted to substitute for. Check
out the other respondents post, I think he is likely on the right track. No
software in the repo would have Google as default, it must be
There is no *maintained* documentation anymore, the old documentation, which
for you is still valid still exists. The build page for the Nexus One is
here: https://redmine.replicant.us/projects/replicant/wiki/NexusOneBuild
A search in the forum brought several old threads that would likely
The real slap in the face is going to be PureOS users coming here for support
because none exists on the the site where they got the software.
Replicant is a mobile operating system based on android that has nothing to
do with Trisquel. Replicant has its own forums and documentation that will
likely be far more helpful.
Several very different kinds of software carry this name. It would be helpful
to know what software (with a link to its site) you are referring to. It
would also be helpful to know what functions of that software you are trying
to replicate. Many times when substituting there many not be a
Why systemd? It is free software, Trisquel uses it.
I'm glad to hear the process was indeed robust.
At the same time the issues I take with the process seem valid as well due to
the number of free distros out there that I haven't heard a peep about from
the FSF. This would include Heads, Liberty BSD, CloverOS, and ConnochaetOS.
This doesn't
Not necessarily and I see it pretty regularly in my work. Purism, unlike a
community project has means and dedicated staff they can throw at "problems".
They can simply keep pushing the FSF to accept them and have the resources
force faster processing. Eventually the non-profit caves just so
Apache 2.0 is a free software license, so at first blush the community
edition looks to be free software. That said due to its freemium model there
maybe issues of the software suggesting non-free addons or "upgrades", this
would run counter to free software. I can't assess that last bit
ya, I think a bunch of them ended up in the Troll Lounge. Not sure if those
threads get purged or just don't appear on the tracking page. He was
certainly in more than two threads.
I have never seen a forum like you are talking about. All the forums I have
ever seen are project specific (ie Ubuntu, Trisquel, Classic Car Restoration,
etc), having a general "free software" forum would be incredibly hard to
moderate. Moderating in a forum is a huge task, even on this
David,
Its important to recognize that Purism went out of their way to make sure
this community wouldn't support them. Todd Weaver (the main guy behind
Purism) has engaged in very unprofessional flame wars in this very forum
where he attacked long time supporters of Trisquel who in no way
oh ya, I know. I'm just tired of people posting stuff the effect that no one
has personally explained to them why it is not available...without ever
trying to figure it out on their own. The example I used is right on the
Wikipedia page for those so inclined.
I'm more blunt when I am asked about them:
Purism = Slimeballs
Everything they do is just sudo-marketing double speak. Its like they all got
high and just watched old videos of Steve Jobs for hours when they were
coming up with how they would engage with the world.
All this in the shadow
Chromium (not Chrome which is clearly not free) has a multi-license set-up,
which adds a lot of complexity to assessing issues as it relates to
copy-left. The most obvious issue is that some mainline components use the
MS-PL license in part, which is not GPL compliant. That is the most
I didn't mean a literal waste of space, I meant that figuratively.
I caught it, thanks!
If you have an issue with Libreboot (and it sounds like you do) you should
either use the Libreboot site for support, or if you bought the computer from
a vendor seek support from that vendor.
Flame war, smear campaign...either way my vote is to not allow self promotion
at all and tightly moderate topics before that become a 4 page long waste of
space. This is especially true when the topic of the thread has little to do
with using or building Trisquel.
That makes one of us, I think this entire exchange undermines libreboot as a
project and makes me not trust either vendor. You couldn't pay me to use
their products at this point. This of course was also completely predictable
because the exact same flame war has already happened two
This thread is a self promotion flame war, it in no way advances the cause of
Trisquel. In fact it hurts it.
Bump, is this happening today?
Trisquel 8 isn't finished and like all in development ISO's is bigger than
what the final release will be. Never mind that we do have Trisquel Mini.
The latest final release of Xubuntu is 1.6 gigsthe same size as mainline
Ubuntu which has a full DE. Even Lubuntu is approaching a 1 gig
And how is that different than the 5 years of LTS support currently with
Trisquel?
Right now we are in a thread that goes for pages without even mentioning the
topic of this forum: Trisquel. This is not a "libretech" forum, it is the
Trisquel users forum. It is a place where people come to get help using and
building Trisquel.
Ya, that isn't a solution. Never mind that this shouldn't be an problem in
the first place. You wouldn't go to a car dealer to buy soap, it makes
equally no sense to entertain many of the very off topic threads here in this
forum.
I am not saying that many of these off topic threads lack value, I am simply
saying this isn't the right place to have them. Specifically the community
around Libreboot (including vendors) should have their own forum at this
point, their users/customers are not getting the support they need
I have seen such sub-forums and it could be a good revenue stream for
Trisquel eventually, I'd be open to that. Currently though this place is a
free for all and it seriously undermines the forums usefulness to actual
Trisquel users. We need to establish norms before entertaining some formal
This thread is a great example of why self promotion should not be allowed
here and that there should be a off topic lounge where threads can be
banished to/purged from if they have nothing to do with Trisquel or receiving
support for Trisquel users. This forum needs rules that are strictly
Xubuntu is just a flavor of Ubuntu, its the same o/s with different defaults.
If you like Xubuntu it just means you like XFCE with a certain theme, all of
that can be easily done within Trisquel. Here is a recent thread with links
to wiki pages on how to do it:
Well, firstly it isn't a copy. It uses a totally different architecture.
Secondly, EOMA is an open standard concept wise...and it isn't an original
concept to boot. There is totally nothing wrong with Intel creating this and
it has been in development for sometime. It wouldn't surprise me if
It becomes official when the announcement is made. It will be ready when it
is ready. Not to be glib, but there are close to a dozen threads about this
now. Please do a search in the future before posting new topics. Thanks.
Your information seems out of date gd-scania
Firstly, QupZilla is no more. The project has formally joined KDE and is now
known as Falkon. The versions of Qupzilla in the repos are old and will be
deprecated. Secondly, Flakon will not be using QtWebKit anymore as it has
also been
Yes, sometime people who love you seeing that you are clearly upset by their
actions upon you can be a very useful medium to finding a resolution. Simply
saying sitting on it and shielding your loved ones from your feelings is
unhealthy. Sometimes this includes less pleasant emotions.
>Any
You posted a deliberately inflammatory post. The context of your words are as
important, if not more important than the words themselves. You know this,
its why you entitled this thread the way you did. It is eye catching.
You could have entitled this thread: "Forum Improvement Request" or
There is no function to delete one's own account, you would need to contact
someone with moderator privileges and ask them to complete the request
directly. I am unsure which members have those privileges currently.
I didn't say throw a tantrum. I sad get mad and have an argument. Arguments
are a useful tool to settle disputes, far more useful than passively
aggressively getting more stressed. We also don't know what the home
situation is. The behavior sounds evasive and unnecessary at best.
Certainly
I am going to suggest something: Get mad.
Part of the reason you are not being respected is because you are not
standing up for yourself and are instead playing this passive game of cat and
mouse. This just becomes an arms race that will go nowhere other than for it
to spread to other
There are several, I encourage you to read the following post from the FSF:
https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority-projects/voicevideochat
I found the video! Here it is:
https://www.gnu.org/fry/happy-birthday-to-gnu.en.html
I'm not sure how active he is or if he uses Free Software in his personal
life, but Stephen Fry made the now pretty well known 25 Anniversary video for
Gnu. I can't imagine he did it for the money.
Megver83 is correct that arch-chroot will work. If you like Pacman and find
Pacstrap helpful...why don't you just use Pacman on Trisquel? You could also
create a custom ISO so you have a fallback that is closer to the system you
want and has more recent updates on it that the stock Trisquel
You could buy one online and have it shipped to wherever you are staying.
I've done that when I realized I forgot something after the point it was not
possible to return home.
Some countries don't allow you to bring batteries over a certain size on the
plane, that could be the issue. Also, some people make efforts to disable
their devices to make it harder to search them when leaving a country like
the U.S.. If you dont have a battery or charger with you and the
Ok, I'll bite.
I use the downvote feature from time to time to express that a thread is
worthless without feeding the troll. A downvote doesn't prevent a thread from
moving down the list of active threads like a comment does.
I downvoted your topic when you posted this thread. I stand by
He means the freedom to change init systems and use the one your want to.
Systemd is not as easy to change as others because of all of the various crap
it does as opposed to alternatives. There is also an active concern that
Systemd undermining diversity of software generally speaking
Davide0,
This sort of inquiry hearkens to an important issue in Free Software, whether
to define it narrowly or broadly. Here in this forum people tend to define it
broadly to encompass things that are not software or additional points that
can be easily replicated with mainline software.
Lineage is the replacement for CyanogenMod, same developers too.
I'd also like to submit Copperhead OS as an option. It ships with F-droid and
offers great security options out of the box over nay other Rom, though
Replicant has collaborated with them on the security front.
As far as I am aware these "features" are not removed per-say. Its just that
by default EME and telemetry are turned off which can be done in mainline
Firefox as well. Firefox ships with EME opt-in only, but I believe Telemetry
is on by default. Beyond that there is the branding and the
If by "semi-official" you mean "talking out of your bottom" I guess so.
Instead of making stupid countdowns and feeding the FUD machine I am sure you
can find a more useful way to fill your time. Surely there is a book out
there you can read.
Actually we have official variants beyond Gnome with LXDE, Openbox,and Sugar.
Triskel is unofficial. :)
I really wish someone would create a distro around the idea of selecting only
the software you want. I use Ninite when I set up Windows systems and every
time I do I just wish we could
I agree with all of your points, all of them are Google's problem; not Free
Software's. If Google's Craptube was something more than a naked grab for ad
dollars maybe they would have designed it with users in mind. Craptube can't
be fixed, its broken by design.
Viewing videos on the site
Diaspora and GNUsocial certainly are good options as they are more public and
are more likely to be seen by non-libre software users. I would encourage you
to join a pod in either or both in your native language.
Not really sure why Icecat isn't in there, but with alternative
desktop/window managers it might be due to Trisquels connection to Ubuntu.
Last I knew Ubuntu didn't offer them in their add/remove either. I can't
speak to the Icecat issue as I rarely install anything through a graphic
I echo what Mason is saying regarding language barrier here. That said, most
of what you are posting has nothing to do with Trisquel at all.
This is certainly an issue generally with this forum, but I think it needs to
be said that most of the posts here should be about Trisquel directly.
If you just bought it, you should reach out to Minifree directly as it could
be an issue with the way the software was preinstalled on your laptop rather
than any inherent problem with Trisquel. Always go where you have a warranty
before trying to fix it yourself, after all you paid for that
I use surf along with dwm as my window manager and find it works very well
once one gets used to the controls not being graphically based.
My bad, brain melting at work.
There are two new blog posted on the TP site dated last Thursday...not really
sure what you are talking about
Has there ever been any consideration to having topics within the forum
rather than having the single stream of consciousness we currently have?
Ubuntu's forums have topics like "Desktop Environments", "Security", or more
philosophical-like topics. Obviously we wouldn't need as many as
What security updates are you not receiving on Trisquel 7? I receive regular
updates each time I run the appropriate commands.
Though I generally agree, I am also concerned about malicious code
masquerading as ads dubbed "malvertising" which is a security issue.
Sure, as long as you know how to use them correctly AND actually do so at all
times. Otherwise their benefits are compromised.
A firewall is always a good plan. The most straightforward one is Gufw, it is
in the repos. I also recommend AppArmor, https everywhere (browser
extension), and a VPN at minimum. I personally run Privacy Badger, and an
adblocker with my browser additionally.
There is a good, though
It is a good thing ME can be deactivated on more recent hardware and that
knowledge is out there. At the same time this is a free software forum. I am
not going to promote non-free software here like Coreboot. Most people found
out about Coreboot without me or this forum, the same will
I'm not really liking the vibe of that conversation. It seems to be asserting
that a "minimized" ME plus Coreboot is the same or really close to Libreboot
as if the ME is the only issue. This is clearly not true since Coreboot
itself is not libre software and has its own blobs. Libreboot is
Trisquel is not a rolling release distro, niether is the distro it is based
on. If you want cutting edge use Parabola, it doesn't mean there is something
wrong with Trisquel.
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