Amen, David!
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Sent: February 01, 2006 09:03
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?
Dean wrote:
Then how can can the Second Adam be
the same as the first?
He's not. Jesus was unique because of his spir
Dean wrote:
> Then how can can the Second Adam be
> the same as the first?
He's not. Jesus was unique because of his spirit, not his flesh.
Dean wrote:
> You guys are stating that Christ was no
> different than Hitler
Not true.
Dean wrote:
> but Hitler was the same as the first Adam
> "exactly
Bill wrote:
> What Christ did in the temple made by
> hands, is symbolic of what he did in the
> temple of his body, driving out everything
> which stood in opposition to his Father's will.
Excellent point, Bill. Was Christ himself defiled for stepping into this
Temple? No. He cleaned it up.
"STUDY HELPS??" Hello?
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Dean, I don't think you are misreading; and I do think we are saying the
sa
Judy wrote:
> Christ is not the literal seed of David's
> genitals Bill and by your insistance that
> he is you have far more scripture to explain
> away than I do.
Actually, Bill does not have to explain away any Scriptures at all.
However, you have the problem of Acts 2:30. There are other pas
yep--you should
receive the bat from Minnesota soon--as soon as it's turned--let me know when it
arrives what you think, etc., and i'll cash the check
thank
you!
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g, did you get my check?
jd
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] 'i DON'T UNDERSTAND' -David Miller'
Judy, your very style of response is that of the scornful. It is what you are about. But be that
You are still blending the natures of Christ, Dean.
The result is mixing you up. The Divinity of Christ was in no way tainted by his
humanity. As God and man, Christ defeated sin in his own flesh,
rendering it powerless in his resurrection from the grave. In the new birth we
are born into hi
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Sent: 1/31/2006 11:47:58 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] The spirit of anti-christ
Did I miss an introduction??!!
Anyway -- the post below is spoken as well as a works salvationis
Dean, I don't think you are misreading; and I do think we are saying the same thing which is that Jesus did not come into this world with a heathen sin nature. Sin is not just an action. When we receive an occult thought and accept it as ours we are on our way to the action; the scriptures say tha
Bill are you aware that manipulation is sin? Backing a person into a corner with a "repent or fight" attitude has never been God's modus operandi although I do see it in the Crusades and Islam. You are wrong! My prayer for you is that you will eventually receive understanding from God, lay down
David wrote: In Judy, there are some additional concepts about the
biological and spiritual contributions of fathers and mothers that also
muddies the discourse. These must be dealt with one by one before she would
be able to understand certain passages in the right way.
Well, I'll leave that fo
DM says of Judy, 'your interpretation'! As he placed himself alongside JT on
the 'inspiration/illumination' thingy then, once again I commend him for
recanting.
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IFO DO NOT HATE JUDY nor anyone else on
TT.
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Dean
Moore
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Sent: February 01, 2006 08:12
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of
God's Nature?
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Fro
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?
I'd have to disagree with every point made by Bill in his post about the two Adams; Bill you are totally into flesh and
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David, Actually I am saying the same as Dean. I believe Jesus walked about in a flesh and blood body. I just don't a
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From: Taylor
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Sent: 1/31/2006 11:19:39 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?
cd writes: So I ask you How is one able to produce destruction for men while the other produces a quickening spirit for men?
Judy wrote:
> David, I don't see the immaculate conception and
> the assumption of Mary as divinely inspired ideas;
> both are the thinking of religious spirits through men
> of the cloth.
I'm glad to hear that, but history tells us that those who embrace the
premise which you have will be forced
'Home is the sailor, home from the sea". Yikes DM! Ya gonna trot this one
out again? Don't kick a dead horse, DM.
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David writ
Is 'jeez' on a par with the 'F' word,
DM?
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From:
Dean
Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: February 01, 2006 07:51
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of
God's Nature?
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Judy wrote:
> David, Actually I am saying the same
> as Dean. I believe Jesus walked about
> in a flesh and blood body. I just don't
> accept that it was a fallen (under the
> Adamic curse) flesh and blood body
> which is what I am understanding the
> rest of you to be saying.
Yes, Judy, we are
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Sent: 1/31/2006 10:37:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Interesting observation
yo, Bro, calm down--DaveH can take you a deeper level into the "F" word than Debbie ever thought of--just ask him very politely for his
David writes
> I affirm [Judy's] position about Christ's
> Divinity as much as I affirm Bill's position
> about his humanity. I'm just patient that she
> will, in time, understand.
Bill wrote:
> David, I know you did not intend by your statement
> to imply that I affirm only Christ's humanity wh
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?
you want the what??
cd: To understand the Bible better than I do now-jeez G..
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JD wrote:
> The shock and awe you all experienced with
> the use of the f'in word is the same dismay
> many feel when the word sodomite is used.
The context, however, is much different. Homosexuals should be ashamed of
the word sodomite. They should also be ashamed of the word Queer. However,
What Christ did in the temple made by hands, is symbolic of
what he did in the temple of his body, driving out everything which stood in
opposition to his Father's will.
Bill
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David Miller
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Sent: Wednesday,
DM recants and, we all so appreciate it! He tells
us that "I think Judy's perceptions come from her framework of understanding the
Bible." I KNOW that DM has already put himself on an equal footing with
JT'interpretation-wise' thus, the implicit recantation on DM's part. Amen
David!
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Sent: 1/31/2006 7:30:20 PM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Interesting observation
I love it. We can blasphemy the very nature of Christ but that is fine. Surely I am not the only one who ac
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Sent: 1/31/2006 7:23:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?
I am rethinking that as Christ said only God is good-I now find that one piece is sweeter than the other-but G
Through God alone may God be known.
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Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: February 01, 2006 06:43
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Interesting
observation
The only knowledge of Christ available to us is that which
comes by w
I don't hear Judy saying that a spirit taught her that the flesh of Jesus
was not genetically related to his ancestors. If she did, then we could
readily judge that this spirit is not of God and direct her to reject this
spirit. I think Judy's perceptions come from her framework of
underst
IFO would respond NO!
IFO would supplement DM's implicit assertion along
with his obvious change of heart vis a vis conduct.Christology matters as little
as 'homo/lesbo lifestyle' matters; no more no less.I now begin to see why DM
believes Mormons to be on an equal footing with any other 'b
> [Original Message]
> From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:
> Date: 1/31/2006 7:00:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?
>
> Dean, do you think in school that Jesus never missed a question on a test
in
> his whole life?
cd: Actually h
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The question is this: what are YOU teaching, Dean? You failed to answer my questions. Here they are , once again:
Yo
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?
Heb 2:17 Wherefore in all things it behooved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a mercifu
So are you saying that salvation is based upon philosophy and
understanding? A person must properly understand and profess the right
Christology in order to be saved?
David M.
p.s. I don't put down you, John. You confuse a put-down of
ideas with who you are. Your ideas will change. Y
You are correct, Judy. It was not the Catholic Church which
gave Christ his nature; that came by way of Adam; however, much like you,
the Catholics have spent their credibility explaining it away.
Bill
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The rcc may have been and still are messed up Bill but they were not brazen enough to give Jesus a sin nature as you and other theologians have done in our generation. All this shows is that you know nothing about God's ways and are blind to sin, judgment, and righteousnes as well. judyt
No JD Billy T has not solved the conflict for you because "death reigned from Adam to Moses even for those who had not sinned" because they were "sinners" - they all died anyway.
Why am I not surprised that you have a different teaching about this also Bill. Jesus Himself said the unforgivable sin was not against himself or the father. It was blaspheming the Holy Spirit. Nice little play on words there Bill. judyt
Job is not alluding to what you are trying to say JD. You need to study what God has to say rather than trying to put words in His mouth like you do with the rest of us constantly. Sin comes down generationally by way of the father. I understand Mary had a father also but that's just the way it i
The only knowledge of Christ available to us is that which
comes by way of the Holy Spirit. To blaspheme Christ in this age is to blaspheme
his Spirit. "By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses
that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God."
Bill
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of
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Christ is not the literal seed of David's genitals Bill and by your
insistance tha
Perceptive post Lance? Give me a break! You ppl are so into opinions ... Morality is a thing to be desired so why malign this also by adding the "self" like you know something that nobody else is aware of. You've not even heard the first one of them preaching on the street have you?
To JD .. bla
Correction: "morally righteous" should read
"morally SELF righteous". To Dean:If Debbie has nothing to teach you (and David
who condemned her) through her rather perceptive post then, you, along with TT's
assembled pharisees (Judy, DM, DH) had just better brighten the (street) corner
where y
Yes, please don't. When words have no meaning, there's not
much sense in using them.
Bill
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they already sent their best debaters out but
they didn't stay around long:-)
had James White for
breakfast and didn't break a sweat:-)
DAVEH: Perhaps they (the debaters )
wanted to go inside to listen to what James
White had to say.
:-)
Dean Moore wrote:
What do you know fo James White's presentations -- respectful ?
DAVEH: I really don't know anything about him. Wish I could have
heard his comments in real time to get the context and mood of what he
said. I suspect he did show some respect though. Had he not, there is
no way he would ha
You make some good points, DH.
What do you know fo James White's presentations -- respectful ?
He is one busy hombre, that's for sure.
jd
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