RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-21 Thread ShieldsFamily
If fundamental Christianity is a problem for you, of what spirit are you? iz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:15 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creatio

RE: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-21 Thread ShieldsFamily
; Revelation says they are in REALITY of the Synagogue of Satan! --- ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Those who claimed to be Christians, but were not of the same Spirit. > izzy > > > > _ > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-21 Thread ShieldsFamily
ians would be the problem --- ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've never known a Jew who hated Palestinians. I do, sadly, know > many > "Christians" who hate Jews. iz > > > > _ > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-21 Thread ShieldsFamily
in Cleveland. I thought he handled himself rather well. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 21, 2006 12:16 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?   Missed it. Who did he Q&a

RE: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-21 Thread ShieldsFamily
k of yesterday's Q&A with GWB? - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 21, 2006 09:51 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?   No. I meant DNC. iz   From: [EM

RE: [TruthTalk] Physics, Astronomy and Genesis chapters 1-11

2006-03-21 Thread ShieldsFamily
  DAVEH:  I would think anybody who understands that the argument of using a burning bush as evidence to prove that God is capable of creating an unquenchable fire is a bit weak if that unquenchable fire (burning bush) has been quenched. ShieldsFamily wrote: Yours?     DAVEH

RE: [TruthTalk] Interesting Topic - Should we send them North?

2006-03-21 Thread ShieldsFamily
Thanks God they are Mexicans and not Jews!!! (There would be an electric fence erected immediately!) izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 7:24 AM To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [TruthTalk] Interes

RE: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-21 Thread ShieldsFamily
? - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 20, 2006 15:20 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?   And this also is not a shot.  But how could you construe the end times harlot church as

RE: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM

2006-03-21 Thread ShieldsFamily
? ShieldsFamily wrote: To avoid WHAT? That nice, positive place? iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 12:30 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM   DAVEH:  The Lord has provided a way for

RE: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-21 Thread ShieldsFamily
ism, which did exist and was very anti-Christ???  What would be the message in "anti-Christ" for those of the first century?    -- Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Did you mean to say the RNC? - Or

RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-21 Thread ShieldsFamily
he body of Christ.    You are ungrateful JD - go back and read Romans again.  We received the oracles of God through the Jews and God has not forsaken them.  Not yet.  I personally believe their ability to prosper is crumbs of the blessings they once walked under.   jd

RE: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM

2006-03-21 Thread ShieldsFamily
t really undestand, just can't get the facts straight! http://www.mormonismi.info/jamesdavid/negative.htm Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To avoid WHAT? DAVEH:   Contention perhaps, such as is commonly found here? ShieldsFamily wrote: To avoid WHAT? That nice, positi

RE: [TruthTalk] Physics, Astronomy and Genesis chapters 1-11

2006-03-21 Thread ShieldsFamily
observation of illogic. ShieldsFamily wrote: Oh, I guess God forgot how to do that particular trick, eh? iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 2:14 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Physics

RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-21 Thread ShieldsFamily
e Old Testament as the history of the Jewish people,   I really view it as the history of the Church.    God's chosen are to be found within the body of Christ.    jd   -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

RE: [TruthTalk] Can 'an heretick' have her name written in the Lamb's Book of Life?

2006-03-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
I’d be interested in hearing where their paths diverge. izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 8:40 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: R

RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
---- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Do you always talk about people that you love that way, jd? Spare me! iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 1:52 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; T

RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad   Since you cannot possibly know if I hate anyone,  your question is not a serious one.   jd   -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [TruthTalk] Who is God?

2006-03-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
FYI, Lance thinks everyone who is truly walking in God’s Kingdom belongs to a fringe “sect”.  iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 7:43 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subjec

RE: [TruthTalk] Lance, TFT, Promises etc

2006-03-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:51:52 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ..  “apprehend”  Christ.. ||        

RE: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM

2006-03-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
Oh, Jude, you’re on a roll….:-) izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 8:15 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM   What is the "Word of Fai

RE: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
LOL!  Try plague. iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 8:02 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?   I kn

RE: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
And this also is not a shot.  But how could you construe the end times harlot church as anything other than the RCC? izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 7:30 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [

RE: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
Unity in Diversity. Fatness in Skinniness. Ugliness in Beauty. Dumbness in Intelligence. Wisdom in Nonsense. Jibberish in Eloquence.   iz     From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 7:24 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.

RE: [TruthTalk] Lance, TFT, Promises etc

2006-03-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
suspect   On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:28:55 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (note the quotes)   On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:51:52 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ..  “apprehend”  Christ.. ||        

RE: [TruthTalk] torrance.

2006-03-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
Wesley   An interesting look at the LOVE for Others they had. http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org/mevangel/leprosy.htm   Since Moravians existed before the reformation they can not be considered "POTESTants" ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just

RE: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM

2006-03-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
06 5:32 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM I understand that a lot of agreement exists between Benny Hinn and Kenneth Copeland. So? - Original Message - From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: March 19, 2006 22:40 Subject

RE: [TruthTalk] Physics, Astronomy and Genesis chapters 1-11

2006-03-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
Oh, I guess God forgot how to do that particular trick, eh? iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 2:14 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Physics, Astronomy and Genesis chapters 1-11

RE: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?   Ah, honest question, only, please.   -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> So which one of you does that make “

RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Not All Authority is Bad   Honest questions, only, please.   -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I assume you refer to Rabbi Lapin? He is the same as any lost person.  But he is a visionary who realizes that

RE: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM

2006-03-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
avoid it. ShieldsFamily wrote:   What is the positive message about hell? iz Do you ever warn people about the FIRE of hell? DAVEH:   No, I don't do much preaching, and when I doI prefer to be more positive in my approach.   -- ~~~Dave Hansen[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [TruthTalk] Lance, TFT, Promises etc

2006-03-19 Thread ShieldsFamily
psyche, the writer already knows the notion is suspect   On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:28:55 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (note the quotes)   On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:51:52 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ..  “apprehend”  Christ.. ||  

RE: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-19 Thread ShieldsFamily
So which one of you does that make “anti-Christ”? iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:18 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis

RE: [TruthTalk] torrance

2006-03-19 Thread ShieldsFamily
: RE: [TruthTalk] torrance   What did I say that was insulting to David  or are you just mouthing off again.  jd   -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> No, he prefers to put up with your insults this week. iz

RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-19 Thread ShieldsFamily
jd   -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Funny all you focus on is the (in your imagination) money, while in fact money has nothing to do with anything. iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [

RE: [TruthTalk] Fwd: FW: Canadian Press on Bush

2006-03-19 Thread ShieldsFamily
Thanks, jd. So true.  Not all Canadians are blinded by hatred. iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:14 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fwd: FW: Canadian Press on Bush  

RE: [TruthTalk] Lance, TFT, Promises etc

2006-03-19 Thread ShieldsFamily
When we “apprehend” Christ, we apprehend Truth.  Not that hard to understand, really. izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 2:37 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: David

RE: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM

2006-03-19 Thread ShieldsFamily
Perhaps they enjoy disturbing themselves. Meanwhile, we rejoice. J izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 2:00 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM   What this reminds m

RE: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-19 Thread ShieldsFamily
So do I.  iz   -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 7:28 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?   Demonstrate that you and Torra

RE: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM

2006-03-19 Thread ShieldsFamily
The problem with you, Lance, is that you live an insular life; thinking that others who don't agree with you don't get out enough. My husband is a medical doctor and research scientist who believes exactly as DM does, and he knows many others who believe as he does. Stop being so narrow minded abo

RE: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM

2006-03-19 Thread ShieldsFamily
Lance and cohorts, please stop referring to David Miller's "sect". Can you identify or name any such sect? Why do you insist on such arrogant insults? David please close this snakepit. izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent:

RE: [TruthTalk] Physics, Astronomy and Genesis chapters 1-11

2006-03-19 Thread ShieldsFamily
Random acts of insanity.  iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 4:41 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Physics, Astronomy and Genesis chapters 1-11  

RE: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM

2006-03-19 Thread ShieldsFamily
  What is the positive message about hell? iz Do you ever warn people about the FIRE of hell? DAVEH:   No, I don't do much preaching, and when I doI prefer to be more positive in my approach.  

RE: [TruthTalk] torrance.

2006-03-19 Thread ShieldsFamily
Just wondering; does anyone know if this John Knox is the same one who in the early 1700’s apparently won Alexander Hamilton to Christ when he was a teenager in the West Indies? izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan Sent: Saturday, Mar

RE: [TruthTalk] torrance

2006-03-19 Thread ShieldsFamily
No, he prefers to put up with your insults this week. iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 11:43 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] torrance  

RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-19 Thread ShieldsFamily
meaning to you?    I will give my money to the needy, thank you very much.    jd   -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I suspect that your last comment explains your lack of #1. iz > > -Orig

RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-18 Thread ShieldsFamily
pportunity -- that is when they are collecting monies from the far right. jd -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Only those who love them would understand. iz > > > > _ > > Fro

RE: [TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?

2006-03-18 Thread ShieldsFamily
OK Gary - what NUT is telling you all this?     From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 6:48 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?  

RE: [TruthTalk] creation continued

2006-03-18 Thread ShieldsFamily
Blessings, JD.  iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 6:07 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] creation continued   Thank you and yes I am.  Ch

RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-18 Thread ShieldsFamily
Only those who love them would understand. iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 11:41 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi

RE: [TruthTalk] The Future of TruthTalk

2006-03-18 Thread ShieldsFamily
Read your post, David, and you will find the answer. Izzy     Ec 3: 1There is an appointed time for everything. And there is a (A)time for every event under heaven-- 2A time to give birth and a (B)time to die….    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

RE: [TruthTalk] Is Truth Knowable?

2006-03-17 Thread ShieldsFamily
- Original Message - From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: March 17, 2006 00:17 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Is Truth Knowable? Lance, in all kindness may I submit to you the possibility that YOU might be the one with the "cranial density" problem? I found DM&#x

RE: [TruthTalk] Hello

2006-03-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
Hi and Welcome Conor! Would you please be our new Moderator? :-) Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 3:06 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] [TruthTalk] Hello Hel

RE: [TruthTalk] Is Truth Knowable?

2006-03-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
it a 'new and >> improved' TT, was the last 'shot' necessary? ('dancing around a calf'). >> >> I think so Lance, and BTW it is not a "shot" We all come into this world >> with hearts full of idolatry, I examine my own daily. Remember, we

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: excerpt redux

2006-03-15 Thread ShieldsFamily
The blank space is so that YOU can fill in the blank.  I suppose your fill-in was carnal. (Mine was not.) J iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 2:26 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail

[TruthTalk] Me, too.

2006-03-15 Thread ShieldsFamily
Since I came back to TT at the request of Dean, I think I'll depart also. Nothing has changed. I'll miss my friends, but not the backbiters. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Moore Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:49 AM To: Trut

[TruthTalk] Who's Happier?

2006-03-15 Thread ShieldsFamily
Conservative Republicans (in any income bracket) are much happier than Liberal Democrats (in any income bracket).  http://pewresearch.org/social/pack.php?PackID=1  

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: excerpt redux

2006-03-15 Thread ShieldsFamily
Doesn’t that prove that 60 Minutes doesn’t know a __ thing? iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 9:11 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: excerpt redux   Because I be

RE: [TruthTalk] Copyright Question

2006-03-15 Thread ShieldsFamily
Kevin, you can “Google” the lyrics to any song.  I just found the lyrics to Carrie Underwood’s “Jesus Take the Wheel”. (Love it!)  iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 6:52 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.o

RE: [TruthTalk] Dean as a candidate for Moderator?

2006-03-15 Thread ShieldsFamily
Dean, I think that means it was untrue. How do we discern which of Lance’s words are true vs “meaningless”? iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 4:37 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTal

RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed

2006-03-15 Thread ShieldsFamily
e Truth? They are a fine testimony for their group thinking religion-which they claim is ongoing revelation given by the decision of the majority of the group. They claim to decide if God is Male / Female or whatever- I asked them : What if the majority decided that God is a calf and to date have gott

RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed

2006-03-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
one group e-Mail-of which I seem to be the topic.     From: ShieldsFamily   Why dont you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the rest of us. iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] By the

RE: [TruthTalk] Joanna Williams - friend of some 10 years speaks on believing teens

2006-03-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
l be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.” 2 Cor. 6:14-17 ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Here is how I understand the scripture to which you are referring. I am not to

RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed

2006-03-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed   I have no reason to do it your way, Linda.  But thanks for the well meaning advice.   jd       -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Why don’t

RE: [TruthTalk] Is a Mormon a Christian?

2006-03-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
t it? David Miller. - Original Message - From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 3:53 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Is a Mormon a Christian? If I may say so, no they do not have a false prophet and a false bible, as do mormons. They

RE: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed

2006-03-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
Why don’t you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as do the rest of us. iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:52 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; Truth

RE: [TruthTalk] Is a Mormon a Christian?

2006-03-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
If I may say so, no they do not have a false prophet and a false bible, as do mormons. They are not an idolatrous religion. What individual members do is an entirely different subject. iz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Miller Sent: M

RE: [TruthTalk] Joanna Williams - friend of some 10 years speaks on believing teens

2006-03-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
k? But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner It does not say I can not Talk or witness just "company" EG In Todays lingo Hey lets get together Fr

RE: [TruthTalk] Is a Mormon a Christian?

2006-03-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
I'd like to hear jd's response to this post. He keeps acting like his one little loophole verse not only contradicts, but overrules, the entire rest of the Bible. iz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006

RE: [TruthTalk] Astrology-Miller

2006-03-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
FTR, Blaine sent me an email when it learned it was my birthday last summer and offered to do an in-depth astrology reading for me and also not to tell anyone on TT about it. I asked him if he thought the Bible taught against such things, and he never responded. He is one sneaky fellow IMO.

RE: [TruthTalk] Joanna Williams - friend of some 10 years speaks on believing teens

2006-03-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
ShieldsFamily Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 10:53 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Joanna Williams - friend of some 10 years speaks on believing teens   To be fair, Kevin, we are told not to keep company with Christians who are fornicators.  We cannot keep Christian standards

RE: [TruthTalk] Joanna Williams - friend of some 10 years speaks on believing teens

2006-03-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
To be fair, Kevin, we are told not to keep company with Christians who are fornicators.  We cannot keep Christian standards for unbelievers.  What do you think? iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 10:31 AM T

RE: [TruthTalk] Redeemed but,' in process'?

2006-03-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
Maybe Carey is one of those “carnal Babes” in Christ? I do wish they would not allow her to attend Republican events.  But then they have to set up a moral litmus test for all attendees at every fundraiser, and that would be very difficult…and weird.  It does provide fodder for the media, t

[TruthTalk] Spreading Strife

2006-03-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] A perverse man spreads strife, And a slanderer separates intimate friends.   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]   And just two posts prior to th

RE: [TruthTalk] Joanna Williams - friend of some 10 years speaks on believing teens

2006-03-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
some 10 years speaks on believing teens   Back atcha on that one,  Shields.  Where is that divine time limit?   Under the pickle?   It sure isn't to be found anywhere else.    jd   -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" &l

RE: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under "Moderator"

2006-03-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
Oh, yeah—sorry! I’ll repost under this heading: Thanks Brother Dean. J iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 7:05 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments u

RE: [TruthTalk] Joanna Williams - friend of some 10 years speaks on believing teens

2006-03-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
  -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   You do it all the time, though, don’t you?  Why did Paul say to turn the fornicator over to satan? Look it up and you might be surprised.  iz   On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:49:54 +

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Dylan

2006-03-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
The lesson we all must learn to grow up in Christ, for sure. iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 2:32 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Dylan  

RE: [TruthTalk] ***********Moderator Comment****************

2006-03-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
Thanks for the good job; a welcome breather for a while. iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Moore Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 3:28 PM To: TruthTalk Subject: [TruthTalk] ***Moderator Comment    Dave H. and Gary O.

RE: [TruthTalk] Joanna Williams - friend of some 10 years speaks on believing teens

2006-03-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Joanna Williams - friend of some 10 years speaks on believing teens         - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/12/2006 12:37:10 PM Subject: RE

RE: [TruthTalk] Is a Mormon a Christian?

2006-03-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
Just wondering…how does one usurp his own authority??? iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Moore Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 3:12 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is a Mormon a Christian?     cd: And wha

RE: [TruthTalk] Joanna Williams - friend of some 10 years speaks on believing teens

2006-03-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
right.   Tough to argue with scripture, isn't it. jd   From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> And how long do you allow Believers to be “babes in Christ”, jd? Until the day they die? They will never get delivered if they are continually treated, and fed, like babie

RE: [TruthTalk] Joanna Williams - friend of some 10 years speaks on believing teens

2006-03-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> And how long do you allow Believers to be “babes in Christ”, jd? Until the day they die? They will never get delivered if they are continually treated, and fed, like babies—on Pablum.  Coddling sin results

RE: [TruthTalk] Joanna Williams - friend of some 10 years speaks on believing teens

2006-03-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
for the carnal believer   (I Cor 3:1ff.) To deny this is to deny the true gospel of Christ.    jd   -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Amen, Judy.  Often we blame the messenger when someone runs away

RE: [TruthTalk] Joanna Williams - friend of some 10 years speaks on believing teens

2006-03-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
-line. Thank you for this.I hope I can live up to it-Pray for me sister.     - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/12/2006 8:54:21 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Joanna Williams - friend of some 10 years spea

RE: [TruthTalk] Joanna Williams - friend of some 10 years speaks on believing teens

2006-03-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
Amen, Judy.  Often we blame the messenger when someone runs away from the church, when the fault lies in the stony heart of the one who wouldn’t receive the message.  Hopefully they won’t wait until Judgment Day to realize that the message to depart from fornication was spoken for their own

RE: [TruthTalk] Joanna Williams - friend of some 10 years speaks on believing teens

2006-03-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
Lance, from the small piece below I’d say Joanna has a heart of gold.  I agree that rushing to judgment is one way to chase unbelievers away, and is not what Jesus did except with those who were religious hypocrites.  First one must love and befriend, as she obviously does.  But, as I told

RE: [TruthTalk] Joanna Williams - friend of some 10 years speaks on believing teens

2006-03-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
ou're readg 'SCRIPTURE' without knowing the writer       On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 15:18:15 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I’m not going to read this if you can’t identify the writer…iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Blue Man Group

2006-03-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
Thanks, Debbie, for the fascinating report.  We have a set of PVC pipes in our basement, saved from when my percussionist husband performed a Blue Man type piece at church.  If they ever come to St. Louis I will pay whatever exorbitant price it takes to see them in person! Izzy  

RE: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin?

2006-03-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
gospel  !!   The lie is to be found in the teaching that he is not saved until and unless he grows strong enough to defeat his addiction.     jd   -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The first step in delive

RE: [TruthTalk] Joanna Williams - friend of some 10 years speaks on believing teens

2006-03-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
believing teens    interesting--evidence suggests you're readg 'SCRIPTURE' without knowing the writer       On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 15:18:15 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I’m not going to read this if y

RE: [TruthTalk] Joanna Williams - friend of some 10 years speaks on believing teens

2006-03-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
I’m not going to read this if you can’t identify the writer…iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 12:05 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [TruthTalk] Joanna Williams - friend of some 10 years speaks

RE: [TruthTalk] Conversation with Major Tom Tuppenney - Salvation Army

2006-03-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 11:32 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [TruthTalk] Conversation with Major Tom Tuppenney - Salvation Army   Director Harbor Light Mission Toronto - 10 y

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: JOHN: An extended discussion on Person/Persons/Personhood including you, BT and, DM

2006-03-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
a master survive on their own merits to those who have eyes with which to see.    :-) Bill's comments are worth reading again.    jd   From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I remember that well…I cornered poor BT with the futility of

RE: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin?

2006-03-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
The first step in deliverance is telling yourself the truth.  Telling an addict a lie (such as below) just leaves him addicted.  iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now that I have my proof-texting urge nurtured, let m

RE: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin?

2006-03-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
Kevin, do you not realize that baby Believers—those not yet mature in the faith—might not have been immediately delivered from all besetting sins upon making the decision to follow Jesus Christ? Do you think that being filled with the Spirit is a process for some; particularly for those who

RE: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin?

2006-03-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
Our pastor recently did a 4 week series of sermons on the “S-word”.  There was a lot of follow-up reading material and some helpful classes offered for those with such problems.  If you are interested, go to www.wcrossing.org and click on “Links & Signups”, and then on “S-word series resour

RE: [TruthTalk] Boring/Not Boring?

2006-03-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
I Cor 2: Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God.  12Now we (X)have received, not the spirit of (Y)the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may know the things freely given to us by God,  13which things we also speak, (Z)not in words taught by huma

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: JOHN: An extended discussion on Person/Persons/Personhood including you, BT and, DM

2006-03-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
I remember that well…I cornered poor BT with the futility of his “logic”, and the next thing you knew he (again) disappeared from TT. Read the whole archives and see for yourself. J iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Friday, March

RE: [TruthTalk] Is a Mormon a Christian?

2006-03-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
FYI, it does seem to me that by adhering to a secular, unbeliever’s definition of who/what is “Christian” we are, in fact, sullying the name of Christ. iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 2:14 PM To: TruthTa

RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED

2006-03-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
And He will strike the earth with the (L)rod of His mouth,  And with the (M)breath of His lips He will slay the wicked.   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 10:49 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory

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