Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-16 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/14/2006 12:52:46 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 09:03:37 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-15 Thread David Miller
, January 14, 2006 1:59 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) DM: We are all helped on hearing that which you do not believe, David. We are not helped insofar as knowing that which you do believe on this most important of discussions. You ask questions

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-15 Thread David Miller
] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 3:18 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) Huh ??? I really hate to bring up a big word or three, but there really is such things as economic trinity and immanent trinity

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-15 Thread Lance Muir
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 1:59 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) DM: We are all helped on hearing that which you do not believe, David. We are not helped insofar as knowing that which you do believe on this most

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-15 Thread David Miller
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 7:35 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) Thanks at least for being true to who you are. How? By answering a question with another question. Do you play poker, DM? You might make a good card counter.(i.e.'Rain Man

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-15 Thread Lance Muir
from the constant sniping when others speak on the matter. Do you not agree? - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 15, 2006 08:18 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) Lance, you may not believe me

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-15 Thread David Miller
@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 8:47 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) Correct me if I'm wrong in my 'understanding' of you, DM but, I believe that you've just answered with a resounding NO! Who was it recently who described me as 'blowing smoke'? I can't say

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-14 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/13/2006 2:21:04 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) I don't believe you understand His nature at all Lance; also I fail to see why it is so

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-14 Thread ttxpress
Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, it is Biblical, Gary. Philippians 2:5-9|| - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 11:02 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) myth (indeed, evidence s

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-14 Thread knpraise
it is Biblical, Gary. Philippians 2:5-9|| - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 11:02 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) myth (indeed, evidence suggests that you're a philosopher, also not a ve

Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-14 Thread Lance Muir
- Original Message - From: Debbie Sawczak To: 'Lance Muir' Sent: January 14, 2006 10:58 Subject: RE: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) Right! There are no degrees of Godhood. D From: Lance Muir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 10:39 AMTo

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
o do with his position; it was not a change in nature. Lance - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 13, 2006 13:19 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-14 Thread Judy Taylor
. Philippians 2:5-9|| - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 11:02 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) myth (indeed, evidence suggests that you're a philosopher, also

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-14 Thread David Miller
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 10:18 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) the mindset in which you dwell is that JC ceased to be God this point is at root level, Bro: e.g., Phil 2 is biblical, take it to the ba

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-14 Thread Lance Muir
on this? - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 14, 2006 13:47 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) Lest anyone be deceived further by Gary's comments, let me clarify yet again that I do

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-14 Thread knpraise
fied, both Lord and Christ. David Miller. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 12:09 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) I'm puzzled by your _expression_, Judy 'what about Jesus made

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-14 Thread knpraise
Huh ??? I really hate to bring up a "big word " or three, but there really is such things as "economic trinity" and "immanent trinity." Function and essence. I speak of essence and you quote passages that have to do with function. It appears that we do not disagree -- because we are not even

Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread Lance Muir
- Original Message - From: Debbie Sawczak To: 'Lance Muir' Sent: January 12, 2006 22:59 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) It was not the Holy Spirit"in" Jesus that made him divine, if it were then all believers would be equally divine. Yes; this

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread Judy Taylor
So Lance - And I'm curious as to why you are always quoting Debbie Sawczak, doesn't Mrs. Muir have anything interesting to contribute? What exact quality do you and "D" believe made the man Jesus divine? On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:21:30 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From:

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread Lance Muir
: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) So Lance - And I'm curious as to why you are always quoting Debbie Sawczak, doesn't Mrs. Muir have anything interesting to contribute? What exact quality do you and "D" believe made the man Jesus divine? On Fri, 13 Jan

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread Judy Taylor
Could be some "folderol" as you call it would do her some good; sounds like she is wound pretty tight. On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 07:01:24 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mrs. Muir is principal of a school of some 600+ students. She teaches a course on leadership at a local

RE: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread Dean Moore
cd: Lance what bearing do you view Jesus having that spirit "without measure" have on you statement? - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/13/2006 6:21:25 AM Subject: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) - Origin

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread Judy Taylor
2006 09:28:11 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cd: Lance what bearing do you view Jesus having that spirit "without measure" have on you statement? From: Debbie Sawczak To: 'Lance Muir' Sent: January 12, 2006 22:59 Subject: RE:

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread Dean Moore
Lance wrote: It was not the Holy Spirit"in" Jesus that made him divine, if it were then all believers would be equally divine. Yes; this is what I thought to myself also when I read Judy's post about that. D cd: Lance and Debbie-what bearing do you view Jesus having that spirit

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread Judy Taylor
Dean and Lance, What exactly was it about jesus that made him divine? Since you say you know what it was not - can you now tell me what it is? judyt On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 10:40:21 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lance wrote: It was not the Holy Spirit"in" Jesus

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread Lance Muir
Sent: January 13, 2006 10:49 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) Dean and Lance, What exactly was it about jesus that made him divine? Since you say you know what it was not - can you now tell me what it is? judyt On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 10:40:21 -0500

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread Judy Taylor
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:09:38 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm puzzled by your _expression_, Judy 'what about Jesus made Him divine'. It is not as ifhe were a man to whom aspecial endowment were added or superimposed, 'making' him God. He is divine because he

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread Lance Muir
? It is God alone who saves, is it not? - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 13, 2006 12:32 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) On Fri, 13 Jan

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread Judy Taylor
God alone who saves, is it not? - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 13, 2006 12:32 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) On Fri,

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread Lance Muir
: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) Lance, in your theology, was Jesus exalted in any way, after his crucifixion? Does the following _expression_ by Peter also puzzle you? Acts 2:36(36) Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread Judy Taylor
ct: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) I'm puzzled by your _expression_, Judy 'what about Jesus made Him divine'. It is not as ifhe were a man to whom aspecial endowment were added or superimposed, 'making' him God. He is divine because he is God the S

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread Lance Muir
, how could his sacrifice avail for any more than just one person? - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 13, 2006 13:32 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread Lance Muir
: January 13, 2006 14:19 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) I don't believe you understand His nature at all Lance; also I fail to see why it is so important to you that he be God walking around on earth - why not allow him to be as the scripture reveals

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread Judy Taylor
ct: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) Depends what you are calling "his diety" If it is the glory he had with the Father since the world began then yes he emptied himself leaving that behind when he took upon himself a body of flesh. The difference b

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread Judy Taylor
nuary 13, 2006 13:19 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) Lance, in your theology, was Jesus exalted in any way, after his crucifixion? Does the following _expression_ by Peter also puzzle you?

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread knpraise
had to do with his position; it was not a change in nature. Lance - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 13, 2006 13:19 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) Lance, in your theology, was Jesus exalted in any way,

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread knpraise
uch a one avail for the whole human race, let alone the whole cosmos? It is God alone who saves, is it not? - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 13, 2006 12:32 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnat

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread knpraise
y 13, 2006 10:49 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) Dean and Lance, What exactly was it about jesus that made him divine? Since you say you know what it was not - can you now tell me what it is? judyt On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 10:40:21 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread knpraise
. He ain't Clark Kent, Judy who needs only to remove his robe thus revealing his Superman garb. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 13, 2006 10:49 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (J

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread Dean Moore
. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/13/2006 10:51:27 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) Dean and Lance, What exactly was it about jesus that made him divine? Since you say you know what

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread Judy Taylor
Lance - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 13, 2006 13:19 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) Lance, in your theology, was Jesus exalted

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread ttxpress
that JC was God's rep toyou--there ain't no wayyou mean that 'God is with us' On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 21:48:23 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Those are not my words JD, that must have been what you THOUGHT Judy said. What does Emmanuel mean?? On Sat, 14 Jan 2006

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread ttxpress
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:32:04 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:09:38 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..your _expression_, Judy 'what about Jesus made Him divine'. || He is God the Word from eternity ||

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread ttxpress
..that you yourself uniquely possess correctly manage theGod-thoughts of God On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:37:32 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: that JC was God's rep toyou--there ain't no wayyou mean that 'God is with us' On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 21:48:23 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread ttxpress
which translatesin context, alsodualistically,to: He is [not] God the Word from eternity On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:26:36 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:32:04 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:09:38 -0500 "Lance Muir"

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread ttxpress
..for him On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:46:01 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..that you yourself uniquely possess correctly manage theGod-thoughts of God On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:37:32 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: that JC was God's rep toyou--there ain't no wayyou mean

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: ... you will say that this somehow corroborates Judy's view that Jesus was not God all the while he was on earth (at least, I think this is what she has implied). I don't read her the same way that you do Lance. Lance wrote: Do you agree with her on that, then? Yes/No. Jesus

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread David Miller
JD wrote: What the verse does not accomplish is this: it does not establish an event in which the incarnate was not an equal partner. 1 Corinthians 15:27-28 (27) For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted,

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread ttxpress
myth (indeed, evidence suggests that you're a philosopher, also not a very good one; that there is no way the ff. is either true or biblical) On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 22:54:33 -0500 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:[JC] had laid aside his divinity, meaning that he had laid aside the

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-13 Thread David Miller
of the people. (18) For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 11:02 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-11 Thread Taylor
- Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 3:14 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) I don't ask either of these questions Bill

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-11 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: There is but one on TT, Judy, whose wisdom is the wisdom of Aristotle. That one would be DM. Philsophy is to DM what the church fathers are to some others. Surely you know that I object to this characterization of me, Lance. My philosophy is more like Plato than Aristotle, but

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-11 Thread Lance Muir
: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) Lance wrote: There is but one on TT, Judy, whose wisdom is the wisdom of Aristotle. That one would be DM. Philsophy is to DM what the church fathers are to some others. Surely you know that I object to this characterization of me, Lance. My

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-11 Thread David Miller
JD wrote: Have I gone over your head with the use of this phrase? Look up ad hom and you will find begging the question in there somewhere. You have no idea just how ridiculous this makes you sound. Please stop attacking Judy! PLEASE! You are plain wrong about this idea you have that ad

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-11 Thread David Miller
: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) myth (a typically emptyesoteric equation--actually, an 'adherent' of the church fathers is a ridiculous idea--a student of their residualimpactcould conclude, likeCalvin did

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-11 Thread Taylor
- Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 3:46 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) Oophs! Possibly I should have said "God the Word" - When IYO did H

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-11 Thread Judy Taylor
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 05:55:02 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Judy Taylor I don't ask either of these questions Bill but this is beside the point I'm thinking you do not realize how you "sound" to others, Judy. No Bill I don't think itpossible to know

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-11 Thread Lance Muir
to the Scriptures' approach. - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 11, 2006 07:57 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) JD wrote: Have I gone over your head with the use of this phrase? Look up ad

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-11 Thread Judy Taylor
Are you saying that God decreed the fall of man Bill? On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 06:27:19 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Judy Taylor Oophs! Possibly I should have said "God the Word" - When IYO did He actually become Jesus? And you are saying that you

[TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-11 Thread Judy Taylor
- Original Message - From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: January 11, 2006 07:57Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) JD wrote: Have I gone over your head with the use of this phrase? Look up ad hom and you will fin

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-11 Thread Lance Muir
of like the king with no clothes. judyt - Original Message - From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: January 11, 2006 07:57Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) JD wrote: Have I gone over your head with

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-11 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: Having so identified yourself, David, (more like Plato than Aristotle) you ought to object to DM, not to me. You are, IMO, a philosophical rationalist. Hi Lance. You paint me with too broad of a brush. I may be more agreeable with Plato than Aristotle, but as I said in my

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-11 Thread Lance Muir
I'm content to express myself within the framework of those who do a better job than I, David. - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 11, 2006 09:21 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) Lance wrote

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-11 Thread David Miller
Original question by Judy: Do you believe the Word of God was/is full of the Holy Spirit? Judy wrote: Had to have been before his baptism; his birth was precipitated by the Holy Spirit and there was spiritual recognition between he and John while both were in utero when Mary visited her

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-11 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: I'm content to express myself within the framework of those who do a better job than I, David. Then you had better invest heavily in them, or you will be like the coward who buried his talent in the ground and returned it to his master when he returned. If you are going to leave

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-11 Thread Lance Muir
Do women regularly tell you that you're a really funny guy? BTW, David, my 'investment' is in Him, NOT in them. --- Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 11, 2006 09:49 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-11 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: ... my 'investment' is in Him, NOT in them. If your investment is in Him, NOT them, then think for yourself and speak from the Spirit of God. Don't leave the framework for your speech to those you consider able to do a better job. Be who you are called to be in Christ. Don't

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-11 Thread ttxpress
my comment on God giving you light in a higher way as a joke? - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/10/2006 11:00:54 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) ..or is it, Bro? On T

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-11 Thread ttxpress
..'the fathers hold no authority whatsoever' is correct, Bro--e.g., the referenced fathers are the fathers bec they recognize to a man, uncontested,that 'Jesus Christ', partic in the writing of the Ap John is 'the Father's son'--the one Father whose only son himself, in and through the

[TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-11 Thread Judy Taylor
From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Original question by Judy: Do you believe the Word of God was/is full of the Holy Spirit?" Judy wrote: Had to have been before his baptism; his birth was precipitated by the Holy Spirit and there was spiritual recognition between he and John while both

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-11 Thread Lance Muir
often allude. - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 11, 2006 10:02 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) Lance wrote: ... my 'investment' is in Him, NOT in them. If your investment is in Him, NOT them

[TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-11 Thread Judy Taylor
From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] When you speak, David, you speak as David Miller and, NOT as the Spirit of God. You do know that don't you? Anyone with a modicum of discernment is able to tell who's voice they're listening to. When David says what God says he speaks as the oracles of

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-11 Thread Judy Taylor
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 06:27:19 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Judy Taylor Oophs! Possibly I should have said "God the Word" - When IYO did He actually become Jesus? And you are saying that you asked me this question earlier -- hm.

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-11 Thread David Miller
Judy wrote: We know that He was full of the Holy Spirit because it is written that God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him (John 3:34) This passage says that God GIVETH not the Spirit by measure, indicating that it was a present thing, something that was happening at the time it was

[TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-11 Thread Judy Taylor
From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Judy wrote: We know that He was full of the Holy Spirit because it is written that "God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him" (John 3:34) This passage says that God GIVETH not the Spirit by measure, indicating that it was a present thing, something

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-11 Thread Dean Moore
cd: Bro I just don't know what I maybe should know that you know-if indeed you truly know it. - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/11/2006 10:30:05 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) words are in context, Bro--many times

RE: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-11 Thread Dean Moore
cd; Good point Judy. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/11/2006 2:14:01 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Judy wrote: We know that He was full of the Holy Spir

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-11 Thread Taylor
No. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 6:37 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) Are you saying that God decreed the fall

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-11 Thread Taylor
lk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 05:55:02 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Judy Taylor I don't ask either of these questions Bill but this is beside the point I'm thinking you do not realize how you "so

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-10 Thread Judy Taylor
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 21:47:20 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: . . . and since I am already branded the heretic by you .. Oh well!! It is I who called you a heretic, Judy: that is correct. I know and JD who sits in your "amen" corner seconded it, of course

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-10 Thread David Miller
Bill wrote: If you do like the label, then please cease with the ad hominem arguments, attaching me to the fathers and dismissing my comments on the basis of that association; for when you do that, you are employing a fallacious form of argumentation. Attaching you to the fathers is not an

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-10 Thread knpraise
It is, however, a fallacious form of argumentation. It's called "bagging the questions" and , as such, it is ad hom. Whether you agree with accepted definition or not, the simple fact that you admit such statements to be "fallacious form[s] of argumentation" should be enough to cause one tobe

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-10 Thread Judy Taylor
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 06:44:14 -0500 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bill wrote: Judy, I am asking you to please address the content of my statements. Rebut them if you wish -- with Scripture or whatever other source you would like to use ... Yes, Judy, please oblige Bill in

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-10 Thread Judy Taylor
It is, however, a fallacious form of argumentation. It's called "bagging the questions" and , as such, it is ad hom. What on earth are you talking about JD, I never bagged any of his questions. I answered one and the other is on hold until he responds to mine. Whether you agree with

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-10 Thread knpraise
Text should read "begging" the question. It is your M.O. jd -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is, however, a fallacious form of argumentation. It's called "bagging the questions" and , as such, it is ad hom. What on earth are you

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-10 Thread Lance Muir
Do you, DM, understand the 'spirit' of freemasonry and the 'spirit' of mormonism to be one and the same 'spirit'? - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 10, 2006 06:44 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-10 Thread Lance Muir
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) As I have already stated FYI JD; at the start there was NO QUESTION You are off on another flight of fancy. A child of the King never has to beg for anything Yours is the wisdom of Aristotle. When will you fellows learn

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-10 Thread knpraise
Have I gone over your head with the use of this phrase? Look up ad hom and you will find "begging the question" in there somewhere. You have no idea just how ridiculous this makes you sound. jd -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] As I have already

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-10 Thread ttxpress
you candefine humor, Bro--what is it? On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 00:51:24 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: God bless you and give you his light in a higher way.:-)

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-10 Thread ttxpress
..interestingly, humor doesn't appear to be confined to the KJV On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:01:27 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you candefine humor, Bro--what is it? On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 00:51:24 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: God bless you and give you his

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-10 Thread ttxpress
..or is it, Bro? On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:30:14 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..interestingly, humor doesn't appear to be confined to the KJV On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:01:27 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you candefine humor, Bro--what is it? On Tue, 10 Jan 2006

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-09 Thread Lance Muir
of Christ. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 08, 2006 16:25 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) If that answer does not satisfy you Bill

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-09 Thread Judy Taylor
On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 21:36:39 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe he has equal status in the Godhead with the other two members. God is ONE - remember? That is good, Judy. And yes I do remember that. Why then do you make such an issue out of Jesus' statement

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-09 Thread Lance Muir
Expert witness. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 08, 2006 16:41 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) Lance you are doing it again; if Debbie

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-09 Thread Lance Muir
- incarnate God (Judy) Humble apologies profered for messing up the scenario inActs 9:3,4 - he fell to the ground but it may not have been off a donkey - do you know for a fact that he was walking "G" Did he have a horse? Is this an important part of your orthodoxy G?

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-09 Thread Lance Muir
Gravity. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 08, 2006 18:33 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) Christine - What a blessing you are, a breath

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-09 Thread Judy Taylor
PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) Modalism -- One God, three manifestations which is different from three persons. That's how I remember the above -- correct? jd -- Original message -- F

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-09 Thread Judy Taylor
So what qualifies her? Why are you so sure she knows the Truth? On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 06:14:21 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Expert witness. From: Judy Taylor Lance you are doing it again; if Debbie Sawczak is so interested in what I am saying and doing

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-09 Thread Lance Muir
Ask DM as you appear to respect HIS opinion. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 09, 2006 06:27 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy) So what

Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)

2006-01-09 Thread Judy Taylor
No, it reflects the fact that sometimes I am tired in the evening and should wait until the next day to respond - On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 06:17:59 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I suspect not but, more importantly, is it reflective of your 'inspired' interpretations?

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