John wrote:
> His reference is to the 12 and with that
> in mind, would you not agree?
No, I still think it puts the emphasis in the wrong place. Apostles are
basically doers of the Bible. The twelve would never had been if the
Biblical record had not come first. We have added some of their w
His reference is to the 12 and with that in mind, would you not agree?
jd
-- Original message -- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > John quoted Barth as saying: > > More than anything else placed in the church, > > the biblical record is the successor to the apo
John quoted Barth as saying:
> More than anything else placed in the church,
> the biblical record is the successor to the apostles.
Fair points about Barth's respect for the Bible, but he did miss it a little
with this statement, in my opinion. The apostles were and are the
successors to the B
A reading from 1.1, Dogmatics, Word of God, p107 got me to thinking :
If we attach our understanding of scripture to scripture, if we, then, canonize "scripture," we make scripture tradition instead of what God intended it to be -- His self-revelation to man. If our understanding does not
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From: Judy Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 12/17/2005 9:19:17 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] thinking out loud
Hi Dean:
cd: Hi Sis:-)
You write:
cd: If one would read and study John 1: 9-it would help the
Hi Dean:
You write:
cd: If one would read and study John 1: 9-it would help the conclusion of
this debate.
The light is now giving to ALL men and Gods laws are written in the hearts
of ALL men
therefore they will have no excuse for rejection of Christ nor breaking the
Law-
I don't think I
005 12:03:13 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] thinking out loud
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 02:49:37 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think I agree with this.
I hope you do because it is Jesus who said "I am the Way, the Truth & the Life, no man comes to the Father BUT by Me" (John
Gary do you ever get weary from all this
psychobabble?
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:14:44 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
myth (that's a
dangerous platitude while there is division in your own theology
from your own mind--your two manufactured approaches to salvation joined
at the hip t
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 02:49:37 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think I agree with
this.
I hope you do because it is Jesus
who said "I am the Way, the Truth & the Life, no man comes to
myth (that's a
dangerous platitude while there is division in your own theology
from your own mind--your two manufactured approaches to salvation joined at
the hip today communicate divergent theories
of 'Christ')
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:34:50 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writ
maybe current
conservative culture's root level dualistic tendency alters the word
'word' in James to 'Word'--apparently your dualism requires it, too,
but it ain't written that way, M'am, e.g.,:
James 1:21 (King James Version)
..receive with meekness the engrafted
word..
your innovativ
Muir
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005
6:39 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] thinking
out loud
Close but, no cigar, Are you claiming, through your
citations pertaining to whatever issue is being discussed. to ALWAYS know the
mind of God on EVERY matter
-- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:03:43 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JD: And so it is, that man (in Romans chapter 1) sees the creation as a witness of God just as surely as God is at work within him both to will
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From: Judy Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 12/16/2005 7:31:38 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] thinking out loud
I'm not talking about any such nonsense G. - The dualism is all in your own head along with al
I'm not talking about any such nonsense G. - The
dualism is all in your own head along with all the other isms.
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 09:00:45 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
while JC the
shepard-king informs us 'my sheep hear my voice' the bible
informs of him, informs the sheep g
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:03:43 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JD: And so it is, that man (in Romans chapter
1) sees the creation as a witness of God just as surely as God is at work
within him both to will and to accomplish His pleasure. It
is all about God. We can either attach
Don't have any idea why this thing is changing colors on me.
Terry
Any way.Let me suggest
that at some point in everyone's life, God reveals Himself and offers
salvation to every individual. I say that because God is not willing
that any be lost, and if it is not His wil
while JC the
shepard-king informs us 'my sheep hear my voice' the bible
informs of him, informs the sheep going only to the Father, going only
through him
your idea of one
way? no such thing: arrogantly misrepresenting
JC, you present two antithetical 'ways', below--like oil and
water, a
-- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:46:01 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Judy, if Terry is somewhat serious, this is my point as well.
I see nothing in your post that challenges anything I said.
Big IF JD. I
-- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:20:23 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JD: And so it is, that man (in Romans chapter 1) sees the creation as a witness of God just as surely as God is at work within him both to
-- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:20:23 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JD: And so it is, that man (in Romans chapter 1) sees the creation as a witness of God just as surely as God is at work within him both to
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:46:01 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Judy, if Terry is somewhat serious, this is my point as well.
I see nothing in your post that challenges anything I said.
Big IF JD. I don't read Terri's comment in a
positive way, I think he is addressing som
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:29:34 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Judy -- regarding being born again: do you think this is
something tht happens to a person from outside the person? Or, is new
birth the experience we have when our person is aligned with the God
within? jd
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:20:23 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JD: And so it is, that man (in Romans chapter 1) sees the creation
as a witness of God just as surely as God is at work within him both to
will and to accomplish His pleasure. It is all about
God. We can either at
Judy, if Terry is somewhat serious, this is my point as well. I see nothing in your post that challenges anything I said.
When I write something like that, it is me thinking out loud, really !! I am reading scripture, looking up stuff, going over and over my post -- LETTING GOD WORK IN
, once and for all, clarify this issue so that we might move on.
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From: Judy Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 16, 2005 07:13
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] thinking out loud
Well Lance, the only alternative I see is
-- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
JD
And so it is, that man (in Romans chapter 1) sees the creation as a witness of God just as surely as God is at
work within him both to will and to accomplish His pleasure. It is all about God. We
It is quite obvious, Judy. Never on TT before have two people been so
compatible. Must be the Qwanza, xmas, winter break spirit. :)
Judy Taylor wrote:
Hi Terry,
where would you get that idea?
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:51:49 -0600 Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:32:09 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
OR JUDY...YOU WILL!!
When that which you say that God means, through
always and only selecting (YOUR choices) citations appropo to the issue
at hand) and that which God means are univocal (of one meaning)
Hi Terry,
where would you get that idea?
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:51:49 -0600 Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
It is sooo nice to see that the two of you are finally in
agreement.Judy
Taylor wrote:
It is sooo nice to see that the two of you are finally in agreement.
Judy Taylor wrote:
JD
And so it is, that man (in Romans chapter 1) sees the creation
as a witness of God just as surely as God is at
work w
Sent: December 16, 2005 07:31
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] thinking out
loud
You are saying that the scriptures I cite below
reflect my apprehension of what God says rather than His and that
if
I claim to know the mind of God on this matter then I
am claiming something that
You are saying that the scriptures I cite below reflect
my apprehension of what God says rather than His and that if
I claim to know the mind of God on this matter then I
am claiming something that is above and beyond others on
TT who you call my "fellow believers"
Of course I disagree wit
ll, clarify this issue so that we might move on.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 16, 2005 07:13
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] thinking out
loud
Well Lance, the only al
Well Lance, the only alternative I see is to use the
verses in Romans that you like and interpret them to fit your
extra Biblical doctrine - then cut the rest out.
Facts are "You must be born again" to inherit God's Kingdom.
If you don't think that what I wrote is God's Word then
you will
06:36
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] thinking out
loud
This (the citations below) are Judy's choices oF
Scriptures which elucidate Judy's apprehension of what God has to say about
these matters. UNLESS YOU CLAIM A LEADING OF THE SPIRIT ABOVE AND BEYOND YOUR
FELLOW BELIEVERS (do you?
is to your saying 'AT LEAST THIS IS
WHAT GOD SAYS ABOUT IT'. ATY Judy! (According to you, Judy!)
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: December 16, 2005 06:28
Subject: [TruthTalk] thinking out
loud
JD
And so
JD
And so it is, that man (in Romans chapter 1) sees the creation as a
witness of God just as surely as God is at
work within him both to will and to accomplish His
pleasure. It is all about God. We can either attach
ourselves
to this reality and inherit life or we can refuse the on
In addition to the following and previously posted comments - I was reading some scripture this evening that has associated value:
1. The fatherhood of God is implicit in old testament scriptures as He relates to the chosen people -- Exodus 4:22 Then you will say to Pharaoh:
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