RE: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-20 Thread David Miller
Blaine wrote: The Mormon mnissionaries are far from being like you street preachers. They wear suits, Some street preachers do that, just not Ruben. He is always in shorts. Sometimes I wear a suit and tie, but not always. Blaine wrote: look clean and neat, Yeah, some street preachers do

RE: [TruthTalk] Will we be gods?

2003-12-20 Thread David Miller
Blaine wrote: I THINK we agree here, but MAYBE NOT No authoritative Mormon ever taught THAT we intend to be equal with God, or the trinity, or whatever you choose to call it. We believe that Jesus Christ as the SON is subordinate to the FATHER, and that we are and always will be

[TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave/Blaine

2003-12-20 Thread jandgtaylor1
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Actually Judy, from my point of view, it seems you are doing the same think (I misspelled thing but decided the new word fit better)--reading your own interpretation into it. Did you get your interpretation from your minister, or is this your very own

[TruthTalk] Will we be gods?

2003-12-20 Thread jandgtaylor1
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]BlaineRB: I THINK we agree here, but MAYBE NOT No authoritative Mormonever taught THAT we intend to be equal with God, or the trinity, orwhatever you choose to call it. Judy: I don't use the world trinity but some do. That's interesting Blaine. Then you don't believe

Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-20 Thread jandgtaylor1
From: "irebukeu" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ruben:How in the heck do you expect to rule over planets as gods,WHEN YOU CANNOT EVEN CONTROL YOUR WIFE? Judy: I know you probably joking here Ruben but since we will give account for every idle word, I want to ask if 'controling a wife' is a godly

Re: [TruthTalk] Baptism 4 Dead part of gospel?

2003-12-20 Thread jandgtaylor1
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]What about Revelation 1: 13-16? Here we see an actual descriptiuon ofthe glorified resurrected Christ, as he appeared to John the BelovedApostle, on the Isle of Patmos. He had a voice, he had hair, he hadpaps, he wore clothing, he had hands, he had feet., etc. Does

[TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-20 Thread jandgtaylor1
From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Blaine wrote:do not yell, scream Got us there. Street preachers sometimes yell, scream, blow whistles,use truth horns, etc. Blaine wrote:or otherwise show disrespect for others ortheir religions-- Right again. Street preachers generally speaking

RE: [TruthTalk] Izzy -You are right.

2003-12-20 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/19/2003 5:29:18 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Izzy -You are right. Judy: You aremixing up the world and the Church Dean.2 Thess 3:14,15is for the Church (brothers/sisters). If God dosen'twant us to overcome in

[TruthTalk] Izzy -You are right.

2003-12-20 Thread jandgtaylor1
Dean writes: Kevin Her shield is up against us-we are only beating our swords against her shield-But she will lower it to bring one of a different doctrine to her home for dinner on Christmas Day-contrary to the Bible. I think one can help her in time as I consider her to be worththe

RE: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
I bet Blaine doesnt have more than one wife! Iz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Perry Locke Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 11:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

[TruthTalk] Judge orders singing of Christmas carols

2003-12-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
Judge orders singing of Christmas carols: http://www.tennessean.com/local/archives/03/12/44328079.shtml?Element_ID=44328079 -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)

[TruthTalk] Photo of ghost in Henry 8 castle

2003-12-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
Photo of ghost in Henry 8th castle: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20031219/D7VHKHI81.html. How do you guys explain ghosts? Izzy -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)

[TruthTalk] Will we be gods?

2003-12-20 Thread jandgtaylor1
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]BlaineRB: I THINK we agree here, but MAYBE NOT No authoritative Mormon ever taught THAT we intend to be equal with God, or the trinity, or whatever you choose to call it. snip We believe we will be Gods in the sense that we will have access to all power that is God's,

[TruthTalk] Photo of ghost in Henry 8 castle

2003-12-20 Thread jandgtaylor1
These are the demons that dwelled in the ppl who died or were murdered there. The souls of the ppl go on but the demons who indwelt them are relegated to this earth until their "time comes" which times are in the hands of the Father. Judy From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Photo of

RE: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-20 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Maybe he really meant his five wives went around the block one time! VBG From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 07:03:39 -0600 I bet Blaine doesn't have

RE: [TruthTalk] Will we be gods?

2003-12-20 Thread Charles Perry Locke
DavidM, as I have pointed out in the Humpty Dumpty analogy, and as Kevin also pointed out in a previous post, the words Mormons use have been redefined, and when they use them it sounds as though they are agreeing with Christians, but they are using their own meanings for the words. For example,

[TruthTalk] A reference to the Mormon Temple Ceremony

2003-12-20 Thread Charles Perry Locke
"Few Mormons realize that the LDS temple ceremony is not of ancient origin, nor of modern revelation. Instead, the ceremony originated around 1790 when the Masons first conceived it for use in their secret society. Until 1990 the Mormon Temple Ceremony closely resembled the Masonic Initiators

[TruthTalk] The Basis of Christian Fellowship

2003-12-20 Thread David Miller
Dean wrote: Kevin Her shield is up against us-we are only beating our swords against her shield-But she will lower it to bring one of a different doctrine to her home for dinner on Christmas Day-contrary to the Bible. Dean, I don't mean to offend you, but I am very concerned about the

RE: [TruthTalk] Photo of ghost in Henry 8 castle

2003-12-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
I suspect that these ghosts could very well be deceased mormons who are still trying to figure out how to morph into Gods. The one in this photo looks like he has been trying for a very long time. J Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-20 Thread Dave Hansen
David Miller wrote: Blaine wrote: or otherwise show disrespect for others or their religions-- Right again. Street preachers generally speaking will respect others, DAVEH: Does Dean respect me? I had not that impression. but they rarely ever respect the religion of others. Peace

Re: [TruthTalk] Will we be gods?

2003-12-20 Thread Kevin Deegan
Is that sooo. No Authoratative Mormon Like an Apostle or General Authority? Are you sure?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]BlaineRB: I THINK we agree here, but MAYBE NOT No authoritative Mormonever taught THAT we intend to be equal with God, or the trinity, orwhatever you

RE: [TruthTalk] Love or Rebuke?

2003-12-20 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: Who does God take out his wrath upon?  My point is that God casts the sinner into hell, not the sin.  God does not separate the sinner from the sin and say, I love you sinner.    Judy wrote: **Jesus did this when he went to the cross for us and he also did it when he

Re: [TruthTalk] Just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-20 Thread Dean Moore
Hi Dean, Hey is this really what you mean? Not to be antagonistic, but this sounds like YOU have a devil in YOU. Dave is always so calm, and collected, and REASOBABLE, above all!! I get the feeling you are frustrated because . . . ? Dean writres: What do you and I have to talk

[TruthTalk] Reply to both David and Izzy

2003-12-20 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/19/2003 1:08:16 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Izzy -You are right. Dean, I have found that the big Liberals that I come in contact with in this community have a rabid hatred of all things truly good (such as

RE: [TruthTalk] *****Rebuke should be specific-Yes I agree.

2003-12-20 Thread Dean Moore
[Original Message] From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 12/19/2003 6:34:26 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] *Rebuke should be specific-Yes I agree. Dean wrote: I consider the fact the DaveH is allowed to dwell among the brethren as sin, David. To me it

RE: [TruthTalk] Izzy -You are right.

2003-12-20 Thread Dean Moore
[Original Message] From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 12/19/2003 11:41:22 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Izzy -You are right. Dean wrote: * No Izzy I don't think TT should exist in this form- I believe there should be limits on the length of time one of

RE: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-20 Thread David Miller
Judy wrote: In your photos David there is some glaring disrespect - when one of the street preachers accepts a beer from one of the revelers and then pours it out on the ground - To me that would be like a slap on the face, wouldn't refusing it to begin with have been more respectful?

RE: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-20 Thread David Miller
DAVEH wrote: Does Dean respect me? I had not that impression. No, I guess he doesn't. But I try to treat you with respect, don't you think? Sure, we disagree about many things, but I try to respect you as a person. Do you think I give enough respect to you, as much as a person who disagrees

RE: [TruthTalk] Izzy -You are right.

2003-12-20 Thread Dean Moore
Dean writes: Kevin Her shield is up against us-we are only beating our swords against her shield-But she will lower it to bring one of a different doctrine to her home for dinner on Christmas Day-contrary to the Bible. I think one can help her in time as I consider her to be worththe

RE: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-20 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/20/2003 9:03:57 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it I bet Blaine doesn’t have more than one wife! Iz I agree, as the one seems more then he can handle:-)

RE: [TruthTalk] Photo of ghost in Henry 8 castle

2003-12-20 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/20/2003 9:25:42 AM Subject: [TruthTalk] Photo of ghost in Henry 8 castle Photo of ghost in Henry 8th castle: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20031219/D7VHKHI81.html. How do you guys explain ghosts? Izzy

RE: [TruthTalk] Photo of ghost in Henry 8 castle

2003-12-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
Dean, Im sorry to hear you are suffering the flu. I had it a couple of weeks ago, and know how you feel. (Like HE-double-hockey-sticks!) There is a strain not covered by the flu shot this yearthat may have been it. Anyway, I had too much company last month to get a flu shot. After the last

RE: [TruthTalk] Reply to both David and Izzy

2003-12-20 Thread David Miller
Dean writes: Each time I get the shot I get the flu-connection? Don't know but it is starting to seem odd. Yes, there is a connection. When you get the flu shot, you are injecting your body with a small amount of the flu virus. Your body then builds up anti-bodies to fight the flu. The

[TruthTalk] HAPPY YULE DAY!!

2003-12-20 Thread Arsene Lupin
Just zipping by to say happy Holidays and share a bit of my faith to you guys. I wish you the best in the new year that comes!! TPW YULE (O.N. Jól) The Reason for the Season! Yule begins on Mother Night, (about Dec. 20) the night before the shortest day and the longest night (winter

RE: [TruthTalk] The Basis of Christian Fellowship

2003-12-20 Thread Dean Moore
[Original Message] I hope you make some time to answer some of my posts along these lines. I think the sin lies with those who excommunicate believers for their theology rather than with someone like Judy who has a Mormon over for the holidays. Please stick around long enough to talk

RE: [TruthTalk] Photo of ghost in Henry 8 castle

2003-12-20 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/20/2003 2:46:35 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Photo of ghost in Henry 8 castle I suspect that these “ghosts” could very well be deceased mormons who are still trying to figure out how to morph into Gods. The

RE: [TruthTalk] Izzy -You are right.

2003-12-20 Thread David Miller
Dean wrote: But David when we rebuked them you stepped in and spoke against us for rebuking them-Both Izzy and I experienced this-In a sense we were rebuked for rebuking the Mormons. A lot of people have experienced this. We have one rule on TruthTalk, and that is that there should be no

[TruthTalk] flu shot

2003-12-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
David Miller, Just for the record, I never used to get the flu shot until after my Dad started getting one at the assisted living complex, and I would get one whenever he did with him. I had never gotten the flu since then. This year, due to guests and such, I couldn't get the shot on the day

RE: [TruthTalk] Love or Rebuke?

2003-12-20 Thread Dean Moore
[Original Message] From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 12/20/2003 5:40:03 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Love or Rebuke? Judy wrote: **Jonathan Edwards sermon was said to be effective in that day but I don't know that presenting a God of terror is all

[TruthTalk] *****Ruben/Kevin

2003-12-20 Thread Dean Moore
[Original Message] From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 12/20/2003 6:04:28 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it DAVEH wrote: Does Dean respect me? I had not that impression. - David

RE: [TruthTalk] Izzy -You are right.

2003-12-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
David Miller, I must object. When I rebuked the mormons I think I did not personally attack, or flame, them. What I remember is that I just told them that they had no intention of learning anything, and were just manipulating everyone, and that they needed to cut the nonsense, and

RE: [TruthTalk] Photo of ghost in Henry 8 castle

2003-12-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- BTW, what do you mean, exactly, by familiar spirits? Why would a demon from a dead person hang around imitating them for centuries? Certainly they could go inhabit someone else. No ones explanation really seems correct to me. It seems we are missing

[TruthTalk] Izzy -You are right.

2003-12-20 Thread jandgtaylor1
Dean writes: Kevin Her shield is up against us-we are only beating our swords against her shield-But she will lower it to bring one of a different doctrine to her home for dinner on Christmas Day-contrary to the Bible. I think one can help her in time as I consider her to be

[TruthTalk] Photo of ghost in Henry 8 castle

2003-12-20 Thread jandgtaylor1
From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] BTW, what do you mean, exactly, by familiar spirits? Why would a demon from a dead person hang around imitating them for centuries? Certainly they could go inhabit someone else. No ones explanation really seems correct to me. It seems we are missing

Re: **Possible_Spam** Re: **Possible_Spam** Re: **Possible_Spam** Re: [TruthTalk] Baptism 4 Dead part of gospel?

2003-12-20 Thread Terry Clifton
Sorry Blaine, but God did not say One of the things I am is a spirit. He also did not say,I am a man with a spirit. In Fact, if you will turn to 1st. Samuel,15:29, you will find God making it very clear that He is not a man. If that leaves any doubt, you might also look at Numbers, 23:19. Terry

Re: [TruthTalk] HAPPY YULE DAY!!

2003-12-20 Thread Terry Clifton
Hey TPW:Thought that you had abandoned us. Glad to see that you are still around. Us old gunsmiths don't put much stock in evergreens though. Like the twelve days of Christmas song says, we prefer a cartridge in a bare tree. Terry Subject: [TruthTalk] HAPPY YULE DAY!! Just zipping by to

RE: [TruthTalk] HAPPY YULE DAY!!

2003-12-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
The best argument I've heard yet for Believers to NOT have a Christmas tree. TPW, did you ever actually answer David Miller's question directly when he asked if you were the one who sent the lewd and threatening email regarding his daughter? Until you actually deny this I will not talk to you. You

Re: [TruthTalk] Izzy -You are right.

2003-12-20 Thread Kevin Deegan
Biblical separation is not just for in the Church. It is also not isolationism. What fellowship do you plan on having? If it is a way to mingle with the heathen LDS missionaries to witness. But it obviously should not break Gods commands as in 2Co 6:14. 2 Corinthians 6:14-18 plainly states that

Re: [TruthTalk] HAPPY YULE DAY!!

2003-12-20 Thread Kevin Deegan
Man this MORMON Doctrine is WHACKY!Arsene Lupin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just zipping by to say happy Holidays and share a bit of my faith to you guys. I wish you the best in the new year that comes!!TPWYULE (O.N. Jól)The Reason for the Season!Yule begins on Mother Night, (about Dec. 20) the night

RE: [TruthTalk] Love or Rebuke?

2003-12-20 Thread Kevin Deegan
The BIBLE is VERY CLEAR we are to warn them all of them. "God loves you" is NOT a warning! The choice is yours, God says if you do not warn their BLOOD is on your hands! ANY BLOODY HANDS out there? EZ 3:18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor

Re: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-20 Thread Dave Hansen
David Miller wrote: DAVEH wrote: Does Dean respect me? I had not that impression. No, I guess he doesn't. But I try to treat you with respect, don't you think? DAVEH: Yes DavidM. You have been kind to me despite your disagreement with my beliefs. Thank you. Sure, we disagree

Re: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-20 Thread Dave Hansen
David Miller wrote: Generally speaking, however, I don't think street preachers go out of their way to be disrespectful. There are always exceptions. DAVEH: Would you think the public display of the street preachers in SLC waving LDS underwear is one of those exceptions? Peace be with