Would someone be so kind as to post photographs of
Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Baker, Pat Robertson, Benny Hinn and, about a thousand other
'servants of the one true god'? Some would prove a worthy rival for 'top honors'
over the photo posted herein. Just what point does the 'poster' expect to make
There is also no more important Agenda or than who Jesus Christ is not!
He is not the Jesus of Mormonism!
As far as "Immanuel"
No other church turns out so many of these kooks. LDS had 3 this past year.
While in the list you give, some are notable,they are not in the same league as the long list
Dave Hansen wrote:
DAVEH: Hmmwas that a lip of the finger, Terry? You did
mean movement, didn't you!
:-)
Terry Clifton wrote:
Yep. Had a senior moment.
=
No, I meant moment. The bottom end still
-
Adam sinned and we share
in his sin BECAUSE we all have sinned.
JD
JD, Yes, we HAVE sinned,
which is why we need a Savior, to deliver us from the penalty and effects of
sin, and to free us from the bondage of having to continue sinning. We not longer HAVE to live in the flesh;
now we
Blaine -- hate to say it but Slade, Kay and Jeff
have moved on. Got tired of the ranker and insults of a
few. they left several days ago. I will venture to say
that Slade would have enjoyed your response.
John
They werent the first to goJudy
is gone, too. Izzy
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It
is my contention that an awareness/assurance of "truth" is not
possible apart from the sharing of ideas (read "truth"). In this
remark, obtaining truth and having the
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Subject: China: Christian Woman Executed for Distributing Bibles
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To reduce this to a few easy to understand words, John, you seem to be saying
that you do not have the ability to recognize truth by yourself. I
realize that when cut down to the basics, this sounds less than kind, but that
is not
In a message dated 1/28/2005 3:32:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Would someone be so kind as to post photographs of Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Baker, Pat Robertson, Benny Hinn and, about a thousand other 'servants of the one true god'? Some would prove a worthy rival for 'top
In a message dated 1/28/2005 5:28:18 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JD, Yes, we HAVE sinned, which is why we need a Savior, to deliver us from the penalty and effects of sin, and to free us from the bondage of having to continue sinning.
You draw a distinction between past
In a message dated 1/28/2005 6:42:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
They werent the first to goJudy is gone, too. Izzy
Not before she did her damage.
J
In a message dated 1/28/2005 5:36:07 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
To reduce this to a few easy to understand words, John, you seem to be saying that you do not have the ability to recognize truth by yourself. I realize that when cut down to the basics, this sounds less than
And here we are biting and devouring one another. A shame. JD
In a message dated 1/28/2005 5:54:46 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: Jonathan Garthwaite [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: China:
JD, Yes, we HAVE sinned, which is why we need a Savior, to
deliver us from the penalty and effects of sin, and to free us from the bondage
of having to continue sinning.
You draw a distinction between past sins and the continual sin circumstance
when you capitalize HAVE in the
A hardy AMEN on this one, John. I am confident that
others will read this and agree.
As it pertains to Judy's statement, "[Jesus]wasn't a son before the incarnation and he hasn't
been thatsince the resurrection," I'm sure
she made it in the heat of the moment and upon reflection would want
Hi John. I don't have a lot of time, so my
response is in red. This is becoming much too personal, so I think we
should just drop this exchange until you are able to reason together with me
without it being personal.
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From:
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To:
Izzy wrote:
JD you have associated yourself with your Triad friends.
And since when do the Righteous proclaim that they
sin every day?
LOL. Excellent point, Izzy. And since when do the righteous proclaim a
vulgar and profane man like Jon Stewart to be a prophetic voice into our
culture?
John wrote:
Your views and mine, if true, come to us
FROM OTHERS. There is no escaping
this reality.
We have a difference of opinion here. I consider this teaching to be a
doctrine of demons. I do not say this to evoke an emotional outburst from
you or anyone else. I speak this soberly
Izzy wrote:
The Good News is that we are now FREE
from sinning, and FREE to live in the Spirit!
Oh, what a happy thought for starting the
day!!!
Amen. Preach it sister. This is the gospel of Jesus Christ. The kingdom
of God is here!
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
--
Let your
Are you comparing the Bible to a drivers manual?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/28/2005 5:36:07 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
To reduce this to a few easy to understand words, John, you seem to be saying that you do not have the ability to recognize truth by
Damage?
Was she a Resister?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/28/2005 6:42:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
They weren’t the first to go—Judy is gone, too. IzzyNot before she did her damage.J
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That is a mouthful[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And here we are biting and devouring one another. A shame. JDIn a message dated 1/28/2005 5:54:46 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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Izzy wrote:
They werent the first to goJudy is gone, too.
John wote:
Not before she did her damage.
John, please do not disparage Judy. This only forces me to respond and
defend my sister.
Judy did no damage. She stood up for the Word of God. She attempted to
help others reconcile their
Bill wrote:
As it pertains to Judy's statement, [Jesus] wasn't
a son before the incarnation and he hasn't been
that since the resurrection, I'm sure she made it
in the heat of the moment and upon reflection
would want to be able to take some of it back.
I hope that is the case too, Bill. I
Does anyone other than me NOT find it strange that Slade 'exited stage left'
without contacting David? DAVID:WHATEVER GOD MAY HAVE GIFTED YOU WITH, HE
DID NOT, I REPEAT not GIFT YOU WITH DISCERNMENT!! This departure, along with
it's circumstances was visible a mile away. I think it must be that
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Are you comparing the Bible to a drivers manual?
Somewhat, I suppose, but much more. A better way to put it is that is
my only source of absolute truth; about God, about morality, about
community, about
Lance wrote:
This departure, along with it's circumstances
was visible a mile away.
While this is true, this does not mean that one leaves in such an
irresponsible way. I am usually surprised when Christians sin. I guess you
expect it. Do you think God expects us to sin? If you are
Did you learn your trade by simply reading a book? Have you become a caring husband via the same process? Driving a car? Learning to walk -- Terry the Sufficient learning to walk on his own. Terry -- there is nothing that you know in this life that has come your way apart from your association
Yes,I find it very starnge
If he did leave w/o notice.
Since he accepted the responsibility of moderating.
He should have notified David.
Only takes a second.
MT 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
Lance Muir
Hi David,
Jonathan here sitting at Lance's desk. I noted that you changed the title
to Sinning Christians. The implication is that Slade sinned by leaving the
forum without notifying its owner. While it may have been hasty and perhaps
nudged against rudeness it certainly was no sin especially
David wrote to John
From my perspective, it seems inconsistent for some of you to
get so emotional over the eternal sonship doctrine, something that is popular
(pop?) theology, but not necessarily an orthodox necessityfrom my
perspective, while at the same time appear apathetic about the
C'mon Johnathan, how about some of that grace that you are filled with, instead of all this Vinegar.
Abuse? Let's talk about others who are not on TT.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi David,Jonathan here sitting at Lance's desk. I noted that you changed the titleto Sinning Christians. The
David wrote to John We have a difference of opinion here. I consider
this teaching to be a doctrine of demons. I do not say this to evoke an
emotional outburst from you or anyone else. I speak this soberly and
prophetically.
I have a question for you, David. If you are speaking this
BLAINE SAYS I don't get it, Kevin, why did you take the time to write all the below, which is exactly how we believe?
You are either under the prophet or not
They either speak Authoratively or not
That is the point.
They speak for Mormonism, you speak for you
They speak as god, you speak your
WRONG Guy Blaine
Read the Bible!
http://www.biblelight.net/hebrew-canon.htm
"... from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias"... . What could Jesus be referring to? Well, Abel was murdered in the book of Genesis, the first book of the Bible. And Zacharias? What book is his murder
Bill wrote:
I for one am somewhat apathetic about
John's position. ... As far as John goes,
if he wants to question the orthodoxy
of the fall, I say let him do so.
Thanks for the explanation, Bill. I really do appreciate it.
Question. It seems to me that the incarnational theology you have
BLAINE SAYS I believe the Hebrew word that was interpreted to mean "sticks" is a word that generally relies upon the conttext for meaning. But it always has the meaning of something made of or related to wood.
The Hebrew word ates is used 300 times. It is translated "stick" fourteen times,
David wrote
Question. It seems to me that the incarnational
theology you have blessedus with requires the idea of the fall. The
idea of a Savior who encompassesall of humanity to save it seems to
require the idea of a man who caused thefall of humanity. Otherwise,
if we deal only with
myth (revisionist; jt could not
teach 'the WoG' to anyone today apart fromspecific 20th c. representations
she isparaged..thiscommentcloaksyour own view of the WoG that
it equates tothe 16th-19th c.biblical lit
andinterpetation,in which,mainlycurrentcult and
political factionsremain
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
myth (revisionist;
jt could not teach 'the WoG' to anyone today apart fromspecific 20th
c. representations she isparaged..thiscommentcloaksyour own view of
the WoG that it equates tothe 16th-19th c.biblical lit
andinterpetation,in which,mainlycurrentcult and
..orthodoxy is central to not
only tosound teachg and preachg, but to the peculiarity of the KoG and its
circle of Friends--unfortunately, that jt's (now your) notion of the WoG is
'orthodox' is suspect--restrictive..cultic..in some sense orthodoxy is
accommodation; it mustreasonably
BLAINE: Even when we are sure of something, it may turn out to be wrong.
Rashly judging something such as the Shroud of Turin to be a fake, or the Book
of Mormon, another example, puts one out on a limb from which it is sometimes
difficult to extract oneself. Called eating crow!
Turin
BLAINE: I would not ask for religious help, neither have I asked for such help
from sources outside my own beloved stake and ward leaders. Well, sometimes I
ask my wife. (:) Sorry you felt I was whining. Bytheway, I thought we on TT
were trying to avoid pesonal attacks???
=
If either Judy or Slade stays gone I will miss them. I learned from them
both. Hopefully, they will reconsider.
Terry
Same
here. Izzy
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BLAINE:
Even when we are sure of something, it may turn out to be
wrong. Rashly judging something such as the Shroud of Turin to be a fake,
or the Book of Mormon, another example, puts one out on a limb from which it is
sometimes difficult to extract
You
can use me as an excuse to meditate anytime.
By
defining truth in terms of time/history (past, present, future), you seem to be
saying that it is
events/acts rather than principles, hence
particulars rather than universals;
more like narrative, and less like
science.
Well,
Annie
David wrote:And since when do the righteous
proclaim avulgar and profane man like Jon Stewart to be a prophetic voice
into ourculture?Lance wrote:Illustration #2: Your LACK OF
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